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oakenfold:
They are more educated today and are still building and inventing things in Iran. All these things I mentioned were done under the mullahs, not before.

Why should the IRGC not have an issue with the country that funneled Saddam chemical weapons to use on their people? I doubt the Arabs pals have the same issue. The Yemeni Houthis have a similar gripe after the USA furnished the Saudis with equipment to bomb and starve them.

Also, the USA has a longstanding problem with Iran that it does not have with it's Arab buddies; Oil and gas!
USA will never be over the fact that Iran's oil industry is nationalized and the Western oil cartels are not allowed to get their paws in it like they do all over the Arab middle East.
Oil nationalization is why the West torpedoed Iran's democracy in the 50s in the first place.

The USA also helps the Arab nations cover for the repression of any dissent in those Arab nations, of course they love that. Many people forget Bahrain had an "Arab Spring" that was violently crushed with the aid from other Arab states, and limited Western media coverage. All while Hilary Clinton was barking "Assad must go" everyday on tv about the Syrian Arab spring.

Russia supported Assad, why don’t they hate them too?
Russia was in Afghanistan too.
Selective justice I suppose.

Oil and gas; oil isn’t found floating on the soil. Companies spend millions in exploration, drilling and other processes. I had to read up how the Venezuelan saga started. After pouring millions into the countries oil industry the government nationalized their assets.

I believe anyone will be hurt by this. Just imagine the Nigerian FG nationalizing our oil and gas.

oakenfold:
If you don't invent drugs, you are not doing anything?

How many satellites have Somalis put in orbit. Iran has a space program and has done this.

How many missile systems have been built in Somalia, compared to Iran.

Iran built the low cost Shaheed that Russia, the USA and others are now copying.

The anti-aircraft missile system that just tagged that F-35 jet was built in Iran, by Iranians.

Iran builds their own train coaches, and more infrastructure.

The literacy rate of women in Iran ballooned under the mullahs. Much higher that Nigeria or Somalia. And it is not literacy of Quran

And this is through 40 decades of sanctions. Sanctions that have recently been tightened to specifically make the citizens suffer more. Something said by Nancy Pelosi and by one of Trump's officials.


You want to keep lying, acting like Iran is Afghanistan.

I admitted the Iranians are smart. I know this, before the mullahs they were smart. The mullahs just came in 4 decades ago.

Simple question; what is the IRGCs problem with the US and Iran that the Arabs don’t see?

oakenfold:
What kind of stupid comeback is this. Are Jews prevented from worshipping in Iran. Are Iranian Jews not in the thousands?
I said Iran has thousands of Jews worshipping there fine. Your comeback is that Iran has between 8,000 and 15,000. Did you fail math class? What's this rubbish?

You’re disrespectful, get yourself the right mannerism and temperament for public discussions.

Deductive thinking; you responded to a post defending how secular Iran is, and I illustrated that Isreal is more secular and makes their secularity look insignificant.

The UAE has a church, mosque and synagogue all in one place, an attempt to promote secularism. They have an only female mosque, a mosque called Mary the mother of Jesus. So by population ration there’s nothing special about them.

agabusta:
So what do you suggest they do? When their closeness to those guys in religion and culture is being disregarded for USD. What do you suggest they do even as they are being attacked from the territories of the GCC?

Find me a source that states fighter jets or missiles we’re launched from Qatar to Iran.

P1PrinceKT:
Radical Islam as practiced in Sudan,
Based on this I will give you time to explore the crisis in Sudan and the role the same UAE you're applauding 👏 and where it's getting it's gold.

So you see this world, sometimes you need raw news to identify fact about what truly is happening, not depending on mainstream news as a basis for judgment.

Open source is free to everyone. I can’t do school today but please read up on child marriage in Sudan, literacy et al and watch this. Their consistent bad choices inspired by religious appropriation got them to where they are today.

Your information is jaundiced.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1420548946089947&vanity=VisegradGroup24&http_ref=eyJ0cyI6MTc3Mzk1MzAxNDAwMCwiciI6Imh0dHBzOlwvXC93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbVwvIn0%3D

planetx:
So you are comparing the defenceless women and children in Gaza to Iran? Maybe if their success have not come from murdering 70,000 poor Gazans they would have been better prepared to face Iran. I am not going to go back and forth with you, I stand on my prediction, that this will be a long war, while Iran will take massive damage but it will not stop until it impose a strategic defeat. You can come back and quote me two months or three from now

My prediction; they’ll make a mistake- The IRGC, Iranians will be asked to temporarily evacuate the country through Syria or Iraq. A massive lethal campaign will be carried out and infantry will be stationed in Iran.
The gulf states and US will be the ones to transition in the new government.

Let’s meet in 2 months.

oakenfold:
Thousands of Jews are worshiping just fine in Iran. Christians are worshipping just fine in Iran. There are churches and synagogues still there as they have been for centuries. Yea, they won't allow you go around preaching, or trying to convert people, none of the countries you listed let you get away with that either.

Dey internet dey spread lies. writing rubbish. Where is the church in Saudi Arabia? For decades, Christian expats in Saudi worshipped in hiding, in basements.


This is a christian themed mural at a train station in Tehran.

You do know search engines are free and I know how to use one? Find your answers below
When interpreting the answers put in mind Iran is over 90 million and Isreal is about 8 million.

hollowpot15684:
What do you mean nothing known to man can catch those machines? Were the machines not built by man?

And you're asking what the relationship would look like with GCC after the war, so let me ask you, how did North korea build back its country after the Korean war? And what happens to the strait of hormuz which give iran access to the whole world? Cant iran rebuild its country by selling oil and importing infrastructure?

To make the situation clearer to you, if Iran survive this war, there wont be sanction on them at the end of the war, then diplomacy takes back its effect.

And of course one of their biggest hope is China and Russia, which happens to be their biggest trading partner, and if youre asking wether it will be done for free... Of course not, nothing is for free, it is going to be a bilateral trading agreement.

Then you also say that Arabs choose civilization over redicalism... This is the point that i knew that you had seen too much of western media that made you believe that iran is less civilised than Qatar or UAE. A country with stable energy and 97% literacy rate, who have developed their own engineering, medicine, literature.etc... and whom has being in existence for more than 5,000 years... You definitely know nothing about the persians bro.

First of all, the problem is the IRGC and not Iran.

Since the mullahs took over 4 decades ago the country has regressed on all fronts hence the internal conflict.
If you think North Korea is thriving then Nigeria is the best place on earth.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/iransource/iran-s-economic-performance-since-the-1979-revolution/

As per diplomacy, it is gone out the window unless a more moderate person gets into power. The Arabs have investments in the US so Iran’s demands of cutting ties with the US and its allies is delusional to say the least. Qatar owns about 30-40% of London.
Also, the Arabs will never forget this attack and remember, China has Russia and OPEC to buy oil from. Qatar has helped Iran greatly, same as Oman but that’s gone. You don’t blow up my main source of income because you’re angry with my friend.

https://israel-alma.org/qatar-is-an-ally-of-iran/

To the last paragraph, please name a drug that was discovered in Iran since the mullahs took over? Iranians are intelligent undisputed, the IRGC is trying to turn them to Somalia. They love their way of life pre-IRGC. They are as smart as the Jews.

P1PrinceKT:
I have seen an interview where Jews were interviewed to choose either a Muslim as a neighbor or a Jew like themselves.

To my surprise they all chose a Muslim as a prefable candidate to be their neighbor, I don't know why?

So, to me, I believe there should be a greater project in painting Muslims negetively around world, including social places like this one, versus the real Islam and Muslims on ground.

For those that have traveled wide they know Islamophobia only exists on social media.
Turkey, Dubai, Qatar, Egypt (varied), Tunisia are Muslim countries with secular beliefs.
That’s why choice of words come to play.

Radical Islam as practiced in Sudan, Afghanistan, Pakistan is frowned upon, not Islam in itself. There’s almost no Nigerian that doesn’t have Muslim friends or relatives.
The IRGC is the problem not Iran, I would like to visit a secular Iran, one that looks like Oman or Bahrain.

planetx:
They have done their own, now the Iranian stage of the war to inflict pain is just starting, they have been preparing for this war for 25 years. They are prepared to fight till next year, this people have misread the will of Iran and their capabilities to fight on till victory. Like I have been saying from day one, this war will not end until Iran impose a strategic defeat not a military defeat but a strategic defeat on both America and Israel.

You can believe whatever you want, but this will not be a quick war like they thought they will get and let me tell you they are not running out of missiles like the orange retard told you, I doubt if they have even used 5% of their missile stockpile and those missile factories are buried deep underground, so Iran hold all the card and can easily torpedo the global economy.

You over estimate Iran, Isreal bombed Gaza for over 2 years nonstop and you think they didn’t estimate that this could go on for a year.
How much more the US that need to be ready for bigger threats like China and Russia?
Who do you think has sustained Ukraine for 4 years.
Are you aware that MBS just gave the US the go ahead to use its military assets against Iran?
Let’s say the run out of ammunition don’t you think the EU and UK will trade them back all their weapons?
Can Iran with stand all the weapons in the west? That’s if the US doesn’t just give up on being surgical and drop an actual bomb on the nation, ask Assad he experienced one.

Penguin2:
My dear you can’t help but shudder at the calibre of humans we share a country with.

Seeing people supporting Iran on this platform was a big surprise to me honestly.

And it just made me understand that apart from rigging, the ijiots ruining our lives in this country have people who vote for them.

Not until last year did I begin questioning our unity. Never have I seen a country with such diverse ideologies.
It’s almost impossible to find 10 Nigerians that share the same norms. We need to revisit our education and cultural dictations as a matter of urgency. Imagine the NSA saying the bandits are our brothers.

P1PrinceKT:
after this war all Arab countries will enter the arms race and I hope Iran would be happy with a heavy militarized Middle East Logically, Iran is helping Arabs (Muslims) to defend on themselves, not hypocritical America, it's obvious to anybody unless if deaf and dumb, that The US is using Arabs to defend Israel, after which they will come after them (Arabs) for their expansionist project (Grater Israel).

I don't know if what I'm telling you is making sense to you, or you just need enough time to comprehend.

Let’s work with the conspiracy of ‘greater isreal’ vs ‘IRGC’ type of Islam, which do you think scares the Arab nations more?
Since the Abraham accord signage has Isreal infringed on the UAE or other signatories?
Didn’t Trump force Bibi to apologize to Al Thani and signed an agreement with Qatar to defend its territory always.
The worst the Jews will do in the Middle East is buy up properties far and wide. The gulf countries are monarchies so there’s no lobbying unlike the US that has elections.
Militarily, it is impossible for Isreal to control twice its land mass with its population.

The imminent threat to the Middle East is Iran reversing the giant strides they’ve made in real estate, investment (Dubai holds the second largest gold reserve in the world), Qatar holds the largest LNG plant and one of the largest airline fleet in the world, the women in these countries have almost all the liberties of women in the west(Princess of Dubai and French Montana).
Creating a niche for religious fanatics is a bigger threat than Zionism.

@seun, kindly confirm if we all read the same information on threads. I believe there’s a delusional bug that translates your contents to fit into a narrative for a select few.

Time and again F35 have crashed in the US but you must understand that nothing known to man can catch those machines also, some have wingman drones.

I have questions for pro-IRGC madness. Let’s say Iran destroys Saudi, Qatar and UAE;

What would be their relationship with these nations afterwards? They’re Persians and the others are Arabs.
How would they rebuild their nation in complete isolation?
If their hope is China and Russia do they believe it would be done for free?
The Arabs chose civilization and modernization over radicalism, but trust me after this war all Arab countries will enter the arms race and I hope Iran would be happy with a heavily militarized Middle East, then they wouldn’t need the US to destroy them.

Arabs are royalty and would never take orders on the type of Islam to practice from Persian mullahs… NEVER! They love luxury and affluence!

Read friend.

Rhetorics don’t always have facts, it’s a silly consistency adorned by little minds.

No Arab country allowed the US to launch attacks from their soil. What do you think the 2 aircraft carriers went there for?

They have military assets in the gulf, first for the countries protection and next for logistical purposes.
If you support the bombing of assets then the US should bomb all Iranian embassies close to it, same as Isreal; any place with an Iranian flag should be bombed. That’s juvenile.

Bobodee09:
Well you don't understand world politics. When you see Iran blow any facilities in those country which by proxy belong to the USA. They are blowing up USA asset in those countries with Russia and China help. They are doing tit for tat.

All companies world over are interconnected. To find a company today that has no foreign investment is scarce.

What they’re doing is an archaic way to think.

If they destroy the Middle East America would lose a little and the Middle East would return to antiquity.

That would make them more vulnerable because money builds nations not religious convictions. They’re naive. And just stupid.

Saudi will never be a friend to Iran, they have different world views, to telling a friend and business partner to leave his associates home is stupidity. What does Iran have to offer Saudi? Oil that they already have? Technology that they don’t have? What exactly?

The person who’s in charge should put his name.

So they can make a befitting tomb stone for him.

Now back to the topic,
Instead of focusing on your economy, ways to end the war, the IRGC is willing to sacrifice their citizenry for a foolish al aqsa objective.

There are limits to what the US and Isreal will tolerate. The Palestine situation has been attended to and a peace deal is in place. Even Russia is in alignment with this.

Dropping bombs indiscriminately in Palestine would turn Iran to Gaza in minutes with apologies to anti-IRGC personals.

Going by the OPs logic,
Iran should bomb Nigeria because the US now has a base here.
All American embassies around the world should be bombed because Iran is upset;

The truth is, the attack on the gulf states is not only for economic destabilization but civil unrest. They’re trying to whip up sentiment by religious groups to create a ‘free Palestine’ movement in these Muslim countries.

But here’s a truth they do not want to see; the gulf countries have moved past religious alignment. It’s about interest and survival. The illusory pursuit of the reestablishment of the Al-asqa holy site has been relegated for the development of Porsche and Lamborghini residences.

For the Muslims here; Saudi Arabia is the bedrock of Islam, neither the US nor Israel have ever attacked these places, so why the animosity. You have to check yourself; am I angry about the killings or angry that it’s Isreal doing it because the death toll between Afghanistan’s and Pakistan is huge.

It’s not for fear of North Korea that the US exercises caution, but for the consequences of a nuclear fallout.

North Korean’s army is worse off than that of Iran’s, they didn’t last a week in Ukraine. The carnage was too gruesome for media reports.

Kim knows this, but I can tell him for free that technology is being developed to minimize the impact of nuclear radiation and once that’s in place his sty will be cleaned.

https://www.nknews.org/2026/01/north-korea-reveals-over-400-graves-for-soldiers-killed-in-sacred-ukraine-war/

He should be grateful… Iran agenda was to subjugate them all. And without the US presence it would’ve happened.

Listen to MBS idea on Iran.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3np3gYBYAlY

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/aQ0LL5Z5-ng

naptu2:
Can you read, can you listen and can you comprehend??

Everything he said is right there and here's a summary of it:

1) The United Kingdom did not join the initial attacks on Iran, Donald Trump said that he's diappointed in the UK, but he stands by his decision. His duty is to do what's in the best interest of the United Kingdom and that's what he has done. He also believes that the best way to resolve issues is via negotiations.

2) He has denied requests for the United States to use British bases in Cyprus. He has obligations to the UK's friends and allies in Cyprus and he believes that this is the best decision. He won't allow the US to use British bases in Cyprus.

A Royal Air Force base in Cyprus was attacked. That was not because of any decision that he made.

3) Iran has been attacking targets across the Middle East since the death of the Supreme Leader. He believes that this is reckless and can cause serious problems. He believes that the best way to stop these attacks is to destroy the missiles either in storage or in their launchers. Solely for this defensive purpose he has accepted a later American request to use British bases to destroy the missiles in their storage or launchers. They can only be used in this purpose.

This explanation is clear, it will be my last and it also goes for the other accounts that are raising this issue.

It was clearly stated in the video that I posted and it was clearly stated in the article that I posted and I will not be explaining something so obvious again.

Same thing I said Pal.

He accepted a request to use British bases to bomb Iranian storage.

It’s a reasonable compromise.

@OP, he said he turned down their initial request but has agreed to a new request made to destroy Iranian missiles depot.

Listen from 1:55- 2:00

allthingsgood:
When i say most of you are deliberately ignorant you will be arguing blindly

https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/11/23/saudi-arabia-poet-sentenced-death-apostasy

https://www.uscirf.gov/religious-prisoners-conscience/forb-victims-database/ahmad-al-shamri

https://humanists.uk/2017/05/03/man-sentenced-to-death-for-apostasy-as-violence-against-non-religious-across-muslim-majority-countries-continues/


Are you cleared now

You’re incorrigible.

Look at the dates on your link.

Friend you need to be open-minded. Your anchor bias has beclouded your ability to assimilate what I said.

Did women drive in Saudi before 2015? Was it in 2015 Saudi legalized the sale of alcohol? Was it in the 2015 cardi B went to Saudi?

You’re not wrong, but you’re also not right. Since partnering with the west, the Arabs have become more civilized and moderate and that’s all the rest of the world asks of them. Love God, love humanity.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220114-changing-times-for-saudi-s-once-feared-morality-police

Flangelo12:
So now you support Sunni?

When would you think for yourself?

If you find a post where I antagonized Muslims kindly bring it to my attention. I’m way more humane and tolerant than to see people with faith polarized lenses.

Your religion is of no consequence to me, with the exception of diabolical folks.

Love God and love your neighbor;

My philosophy is anti-autocracy, hegemony and religious fanaticism cum extremism.

What’s your own philosophy? Why do you support IRGC?

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. ~ Blaise Pascal

Elzazzi:
But schools were hit and over 200 girls were killed in a school. Anyway I know you people don’t care. Lol

I don’t have the full information but news has it that it was a mislaunched Iranian missile that killed the girls.

And if you’re being fair, who has launched more reckless projectiles since the war began? If the goal was to kill children why stop at one school? And its a bit hypocritical to turn a blind eye when the IRGC kills thousands protesters and raise the roof about the girl school bombing.

allthingsgood:
You are the one who is clearly obtuse here because we are clearly talking about different things. Do you even have a clue what the definition of terrorist is I never told you that iranian government arent islamic fundamentalists nor did i say the have the best human rights records.
All what you posted has nothing to do with iran attacking US or Israel. And by the way, Saudi Arabia is also a strict islamic nation, but i didnt hear you calling them terrorists. Infact Saudi, Qatar and the UAE despite their Islamic extremism including killing and burning their citizens, are very great allies of the US.

So obviously, you post goes to no issue. Iran has never attacked anybody ever!

Now I’m sure that you’re making arbitrary responses. I forgive your ignorance.

The same UAE that signed the Abraham accord? Where most Europeans are moving to in the thousands?
The same Qatar that signed a security pact with the US and allows foreigner of all faiths to live in peace in their country? Do you know how many Nigerians live in Qatar and live a casual lifestyle?
The same Saudi that has given women permission to drive, not to wear the hijab if they don’t want to, invited Cardi B, banned public execution, arrested clerics?

Provide me evidence of the last time someone was killed in any of these countries for blaspheme? Or religious inappropriateness.

One question; would you like to live under an IRGC styled government?

Anything to give hope to pro-IRGC folks

What puzzles me is, why do some Nigerians love Iran the IRGC’s ideology more than that of the Arabs? These are issues we need to discuss after this war ends. If Saudi was under attack I’d be silent because it’s the cradle of the Islamic faith but IRGC hates Saudi and you support this defiance.

To the colonel; The gulf countries begged your country (America) to get this problem sorted and your desire is that Trump fails because you don’t like him.

He said the US has 4000 missiles left… I guess the war will end tomorrow then. He embarrasses himself because of politics. Israel fought Palestine, Hezbollah, the Houthi’s for months and didn’t run out of weapons and the US will?

He said the gulf countries want the US out of the region, who will they partner with? The Chinese? C’mon

Here are some facts, Russia is cashing out of this war, they’ll never come to Iran’s aide;
The Indian president was in Israel before the war, he hates extremists more than Israel , read up about Modi;
For the other gulf countries this is their only shot at removing the cancerous regime;
And for the US and Israel, the first and second goal was destroy their leadership and decimate their stockpiles of missiles and weapon factories.
It’s left to the Iranians home and abroad to find their pain and suffering and topple the IRGC.

Russia just became the largest oil supplier in the eastern block, taking over Iran’s share of the market.

This slave should be thankful to Trump.

I can see Putin’s smile from where I sit.

masterfactor:
Nairaland war analyst, you guys said Iran can't last 2 days, today is day 4. All what you wrote up there is rubbish.

The war isn’t against the country but IRGC and by the stats- mission was accomplished in seconds.

It would’ve been easier if the goal was carpet bombing but precision strike is more work.

Daguccizgreat:
Which truth are you standing for ? You supported and defended Khamenei, a man who has terrorised the middle east over the decades. Is that the truth you stand for zombie ?

You can’t win that debate, those guys are incorrigible; a leadership that has poor diplomatic relations with other Arab countries and if he had his way wanted to kill the house of Saud and take Mecca.

Why do Shia hate Sunni, then you’d understand why the Arab countries will be paying the US for a job well done. Qatar already gifted Trump a $400m jet, I wander what MBS will give when this ends.

tunde1200:
The saMe neighbors that allows my enemy to lunch attack on my soil haba reason am now.

That’s incorrect, the US isn’t launching missiles from the Arab countries that’s why they brought in their aircraft carriers. They have bases there and that’s it.

Switzerland holds everyone’s money, but no fight happen there. There are limits in war.

By your rationality; Putin should bomb Ukrainian embassy in France and Ukraine should bomb Russian embassy in Belarus?

Neither Putin nor Zelenskyy will bomb their embassies in another country.