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aswani:
We never hear those news becaise people are thankfully sensible and follow instructions.

That you are an engineer makes no difference, that you have a super phone doesn't either. You need to stop being reckless with the lives of others avd do as you are told.

I once read instructions in a hospital about why you shouldn't use your phone, they clearly said your phones emit signals that could interfere with their equipment, I will believe them over you any day.

Bro google this thing n u will see

Ilamina:
we black girls don't like them either

Its not personal dear.Bt d truth is there are more beautiful naija girls in oshodi or surulere than d whole of uk.it feels like na only d ugly girls dey go jand.I believe if d white guys were opportuned to see d kind gorgeous beauty on d street of lagos...dem go trip

I keep telling dem tinubu aint Jona.He is not shy in breaching any law of d land.Jst forget abt it till 2032.He doesn't need to win as he own inec so why compete.let him finish his 2nd term n go.

TOPCRUISE:
Someone that did not go to school will never understand the reason for tax. To such a person it is extortion.
They charge him according to his boastful mouth

He aint educated, he tinks tax is only wen govt support u to make money

Kastonkastroll:
Is like these tiktok people are cashing out from that app if not how will the government tax this boy so much. Of course I know tiktok pays some of them just like YouTube and Facebook, but I never knew the tiktok people cash out this big.


Na to go buy ring light and better camera phone suppose be my next plan. 💃 🕺 Dancing on tiktok; here I come!

And Oga seun, when will nairaland start paying us for our comments and gbas-gbos we drop here. Is high time you start paying us

Somebody raking almost a billion per year

tanigororo:
Their was reported case of she slapping the air hostess first, I no dey their.

Reported case by another air hostess...how convenient. Well eye witness frm d plane hav come up to say d air hostess was very arrogant

aswani:
You don't know what you are saying, go and use a mobile phone on hospitals operating theatres or by petrol pumps.

Phones can interfere with signals in certain cases, not all. The point is they don't know how much it can or what exactly can cause it to and sensibly don't wish to leave it to change.

Do you want them to wait till planes drop out of the sky before they confirm that there might be an issue.

It is a phone that you can do without for a measly hour.

Even phone by fuel pumps is not that bad.Nowadays fone are made to be intrinsically safe.The extreme old phones on d other hand are not.Anyways phone issue is not abt signal bt light sparks frm typing on d keypad.This days we even hav no keypad.If it was as dangerous as u tink,pos wey get keypad no go dey on top fuel pump dispenser. Ever heard any of them blow up?ever heard airplane lost control as a result of somebody didn't switch off?
Jst so u know,i never switch off or even enter flight mode becos am an engineer n i understand this is not true

Maxymilliano:
Read more:

https://www.legit.ng/sports/football/1669014-eric-chelle-fans-react-super-eagles-lose-sudan-africa-nations-championship/?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwMIb69leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHgXFOqM2N07WEFsk7LX8mmbWs1JtzFw2uKw42GNH5UdEA54uTXObtnVvn8ir_aem_9fGzter3scIm7kKgdkwvNQ#google_vignette

I chose to identify as south african right now

It was d air hostess that pulled up her top while she was being dragged.i saw d hand of someone hold d top.d men held both her hands and legs then air hell hostess pulled d top

Ilamina:
I can imagine him kissing me in my imagination

or on top of me

As guy that that lived for years in d uk i can confidently tell u white guys rarely get attracted to black girls.

gtassure:
Abroad is too far, even Lagos see, e no fit work!

This people no dey ever bliev.it only works for those that stay in d village of mingle wit those yeye jobless elders of d village

tanigororo:
Their was reported case of she slapping the air hostess first, I no dey their.

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Yes that's wat d air hostess talk.Xcept no passenger was there to confirm this...how convenient. As per d account of fellow travellers,they said they tot it was a past argument till d babe was denied disembarkation drm d plane.so it means if actually did slap air hostess it was after she was detained by air hostess for her unruly behavior before flight take.

Pythagoras001:
you seem to be missing the point. The flight crew are the final authority on the aircraft. If 99 local airline do not require you to switch of your device is completely irrelevant here. The question is did she disobey orders from the flight crew to switch her phone off during take off or landing. If yes she committed an offence if no she did not. Did she assault/batter flight crew/airport security if yes she has committed an offence if no she has not. Ignorance of the law is no excuse that was why I pointed you in my previous post to read prior legislation and regulation. That the laws was not enforced on Mr A is not a defence when it is enforced on Mr B the only issue is that it is immoral and create the impression that some are above the law. I repeat again read the act and regulation I quoted earlier. Yes I know not switching off your phone does not affect air craft safety but You most obey all safety instructions from the flight crew refusal to do so is an offence.

edit:
ncar


(27) “Disruptive passenger” A passenger who fails to respect the rules
of conduct at an airport or on board an aircraft or to follow the instructions
of the airport staff or crew members and thereby disturbs the good order
and discipline at an airport or on board the aircraft ;


17.97. UNRULY PASSENGER.
17.97.1 Any passenger who becomes unruly at the airport terminal or
on board an Aircraft commits an offence.
17.97.2. The word “unruly” as used in this section refers to but is not
limited to, the following acts :
(a) Smoking on board an aircraft or in a non-smoking area of the terminal
building ;Access to Aerodrome Restricted Areas. Restriction on Entry into Enhanced Security Restricted areas and sterile area.
Submission to Screening.
B 2490
(b) Use of mobile phones and/or other communication/electronics
gadgets on board an aircraft without the approval of the aircraft
commander ;
(c) Fighting or other disorderly conduct on board an aircraft or at the
terminal building ;
(d) Any conduct/act constituting a nuisance to other passengers ;
(e) Disobedience of lawful instructions issued by the aircraft commander,
flight crew, cabin attendants, check-instaff and/or security screening staff ;
(f ) Any conduct that endangers or is likely to endanger the safety of
flight operations ;
(g) Tampering with smoke detectors and other aircraft equipment.
17.97.3. Where any passenger becomes unruly on board an aircraft or at
the terminal building, the aircraft commander or airport authority shall take
necessary measures including restraint where necessary :
(a) to protect the safety of the aircraft, terminal building or of persons
or property therein, or
(b) to maintain good order and discipline on board or at the terminal
building ; and
(c) to enable him deliver such person to competent authorities.



ncaa act 2022

85.—(1) Whoever while onboard an aircraft, interferes with a crew
member and such interference impedes the performance of the crew member’s
duties, commits an offence and is liable on conviction to a fine not more than
N200,000 or imprisonment for a term of at least two months or both.
(2) Any person who, assaults, intimidates, or threatens any flight crew
member or flight attendant, including any steward or stewardess of such aircraft
Interference
with crew
members.
Civil Aviation Act, 2022 2022 No. 30 A 957
or engages in an unruly behavior onboard such aircraft, commits an offence
and is liable on conviction to a fine of at least N200,000 or imprisonment for a
term of at least two months or both.
(3) Any person who, against instruction of the pilot-in-command or a
flight crew member or cabin crew, uses or operates any equipment or device
including mobile phone that may interfere with the aircraft radio frequency or
other navigational equipment onboard aircraft commits an offence and is liable
on conviction to a fine not more than N200,000 or imprisonment for a term of
at least two months or both.
(4) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft shall take such reasonable
measures as may be necessary to ensure the safety of the aircraft and
security of passengers on board whenever he is faced with an unruly
passenger behavior and may request the assistance of any person on board
the aircraft in that regard.

All this is grammer n google.u didnt hear that a passenger seated next to her collected her fone n switched it off to avoid further confrontation. Eye witness said she was talked to anyhow in d aircraft n they all left d plane bt she wasnt allowed off the plane.So apparently it seems she attacked d woman after being denied disembarkation.D woman said she slapped her bt nobody saw that one becos all passengers don leave plane.why was she held against her wish?she cld easily be arrested on her way to collect her luggage or outside d plane why embarass her like that

Alusiizizi:
I don't know whether you know anything about aviation in general but there is a reason why this phone policy is enforced by every single airline on the planet. Even if you don't have any idea why this is so surely this fact must lead you to suspect that the policy is important for the safety of the other passengers.

Oga thst policy is nonsense. Phones do not interrupt aviation signals bt that argument is for another day.Policy like no smoking or fasten seatbelt before takeoff n landing is set by aviation authorities not airlines including switching off or flight mode.D bone of contention is not why she didnt switch off initially bt why was she dragged n her clothes pulled to show her beautiful oranges from a plane she wanted to disembark frm n was not allowed.why will she remain in a plain that i has arrived in a destination n is empty

Pythagoras001:
yes they do operate under aviation law and it is not the same everywhere in the world although there are similarities. have you read the ncaa act 2022 section 85 and ncar section 17.97. ? i can send you relevant sections screenshot if needed.

does not matter what cause he was fighting for he was uunruly and disrupted airline operations which is an offence. there are legal ways one can channel their grieviances which he could have explored

i perfectly understand that putting your phone on flight mode is as good as putting your phone off. but the flight crew lawfull instructions to you are final.
i have seen someone who was forcefully removed from their seat and arrested for refusing to change seat when he was told to do so by the flight crew. he was seating on the row close to the emmergency exit and did not understand english.
read the prior post https://www.nairaland.com/8496044/ibom-air-fracas-other-passengers#136425850

I am telling u local airlines do not force one to switch off....they accept flight mode.I wonder why hers was diff

aribisala0:
Prison
Her status is ON. REMAND not. SENTENCED

She has been charged to court
Her alleged offence is bailable so she is entitled to bail at the discretion of the court

Normally people are kept in prison ON REMAND after they are granted bail but fail to meet the bail conditions


Sometimes court refuses bail if they believe there is justification and accused are kep there on Remand

So you need to understand what REMAND means

It is perfectly legal


Only courts have

Actually her offence isnt bailable becos its a criminal offence to assault anyone.I jst pity her...see all of us hav seen oranged n even fantisize already. ABEG JUSTICE FOR HER ORANGES

aribisala0:
Prison
Her status is ON. REMAND not. SENTENCED

She has been charged to court
Her alleged offence is bailable so she is entitled to bail at the discretion of the court

Normally people are kept in prison ON REMAND after they are granted bail but fail to meet the bail conditions


Sometimes court refuses bail if they believe there is justification and accused are kep there on Remand

So you need to understand what REMAND means

It is perfectly legal


Only courts have

Remand in prison...wetin do airport police station or ikeja police station to be charged to court

aswani:
Sorry I don't get your point, is it that you can't do without your phone for one hour? In that case, you can take international Airlines only or travel by road.

You can't go to someone's house and they tell you to stop smoking and refuse to point blank, you will be rightfully turfed out to go and crave your addiction somewhere else.

Is she bigger, granted her boobies might be , than the others that switched off their phones when instructed?

Anyway thanks for the answer as to the flight time.

It is my fone.U can ask me to go into flight mode temporarily or all through d journey i will obey.bt switch off permanently?we will hav a problem becos that isnt part of airline tenets. I travelled BA,ethiopia air,emirates,air france,klm....d least is endless n none hav told passengers to switch off fone.U only hear flight mode or fone switch off.Look my friend this aint 1963 ,people hav rights that u cannot trample on without concrete reason.Even banning her for life is against her freedom of movement. ONLY A LAW COURT CAN DO THAT FOR THE SAFETY OF OTHERS.keyamo is not a court.Hjs job is to charge to court

aribisala0:
Do you even think before talking
Do you know the meaning of rhe word BECAUSE
If implies causation
If you are going to put yourself in the middle of a conversation try to understand what the conversation is about
A comparison was being made with KWAM 1
She was allowed to fly because the official decided to exercise discretion having determined in their judgment that it was safe to allow her to travel regardless of what the other passenger did.
The airline could have refused her flying on the basis of what happened with t her needing another passenger to switch off her phone

They could still have refused her flying BECAUSE of that.
The point is having been allowed to fly why is she spending the night at Kirikiri

Wetin u dey talk sef,u can only be refused flight if u temperaments is judged uncontrollable and that is captain of flight decision. Her fone was shut down by someone seating next to her n she sat down n kept mute as per even though she was angry.believe me if she was still making threats or talking dem for deboard her even though fone is switched off.there nobody did her a favour allowing her fly

aribisala0:
Anybody has authority to make an arrest
It is called a citizens arrest
There is nothing like kidmap
A shopkeeper has a right to ARREST A THIEF in their shop
If you catch a thief in your community vandalising a transformer you can arrest him
A person goes to a restaurant to eat and cannot pay he is detained and you are talking kidmap is that not funny
Yes I said arrest
Th air hostess effectively arrested her and citizen's arrest is lawful in Nigeria If the intention is to hand the detainee tothe police

The scenario was that the security had been called and she was detained and handed over

The plane is private properly and they are entitled to expel her in this case itt was part of due process of arrest that culminated in the logical arraignment in court
There are byelaws in airports that empower airport security to remove her from the plane

Oga u watch too mch american film.we do not hav citizen arrest in our constitution...please prove me wrong

aribisala0:
There are BYELAWS that exist within private property like Airports and aircraft that are used by the public
Byelaws give latitude
There is no rule that says flight mode or switch off
The airline have total authority and discretion on that

You do exactly what they tell you to do

She is in prison because she could not post bail
She is innocent until proven guilty

Is she supposed to be in prison or police cell?is it not after charging to court that judge remands in prison until bail can be made

aswani:
I said it is their law by which I am referring to the airline. Obviously, "law" was not the right word and I meant they have a right to additionally instruct people as to what to do on their flights over and above what aviation law specifies.

Customers unhappy with those instructions should freely leave the flight and commence legal proceedings for compensation if need be.

How long is the flight from Uyo to Lagos that she can't do without the phone sef?

Anyway, I thank her on behalf of all the teenage Nigerian boys on WhatsApp in Nigeria (though I myself am not one) for the latest sticker involving her, konji nor bi anybody mate.

Duration of flight is 1hr n i like to use my head phones.

MarketDispatch:
With those orange display, Kwam 2 will get many customers both male and female after she comes out. Her Jersey celebrity lifestyle just got hyped up.

Omo me dey line up already. I wan toast kwam 2 wen shes out

aribisala0:
Let us start with the basics
1. She was remanded to prison
2, This follows being charged to court
3. BBC reports she was charged on 5 counts including assault and criminal damage

It is not that deep

What is alleged is that she waited till all the passengers had disembarked and then approached the person she believed insulted her

If true that she was the last passenger on the plane it seems more about assault and damage than disruption

The fact that they allowed her to fly after the incident before take off shows they were willing to let it go

They allowed her to fly becos another passenger collected her fone n switched off.

Tunagee:
She should have asked them if she could put it on flight mode

She did d woman insisted n somebody collected her fone n switched off.
Where she did wrong was slapping hostess after they landed lagos which should basically only get her arrested by airport police. There was absolutely no need to force a woman out of an empty plane or even detain her in d first place.Air hostess has no right to do that.Only police has that right.Air hostess kidnapped d lady n kept her on d plane

aswani:
It is their law, even if they say you shouldn't bring phone on their aircraft, it is their law, abide by it or stay away.

This phone of a thing, why must people have it on all the damn time. Can't they give themselves a break from it once in a while?

I can't lie, all this "women must not be touched by men" gang better not say pim to me if she had assaulted me when I was removing her from the aircraft. Her behaviour would change for the better moving forward if she had made such a mistake.

Oga it is not d law.aviation law in naija says switch off or flight mode.

Pythagoras001:
Both sides were wrong. airline security were completely unprofessional (by posting the woman nudes online and the way she was restrained). they need proper training on ways to properly restrain an unruly passenger. they should have been there before any person disembark from the plane and should have gone straight to her seat and have her cuffed behind her back.
The final power lies in the flight crew. if she was asked to switch off her phones she must obey that order disobeying that lawfull order is an offence. it is irrelavant if the phone is put on flight mode or not. if the order was your phone should be switched off or put on flight mode. then you could do any.

It is relevant. All airlines operate under aviation law not airline laws.This is same everywhere around d world.If she did this abroad,she will be arrested n bailed.Bt u see wetin kwam 1 do?its called hijacking a plane wit passengers onboard.D aviation rules says flight mode or switch off.d reason for d or switch off is becos some fones hav no flight mode

Exactly something doesnt add up.Why didnt they ask her to come down calmly and n escort her to security.Why was she dragged off a plan that isnt abt to fly?a plane where all the passengers already disembarked.It seems to me d air hostess wanted to teach her a lesson by dragging her off

Davido has been known to lie alot abt living large.d kinda numbers he trows out will make his own dad go broke