₦airaland Forum

I am not a legislator neither am I a lawyer, if you agree with any of the points i made here and you've the connection, may be you can take it up to the Senate and court thanks....

Abbeytoy:
Present your case to the Senate and court

Okay "weakening and decentralizing the center" means at it's core economic regional/states autonomy which at the primary phase includes the following, granting regions/states 100% ownership and control of their resources, granting regions/states independence to security (Regional/State Security systems like state police), downsize/abolish federal legislative body, improving regional/states legislative body powers to be more independent..... Then at the secondary phase, you get the following, creating a new people backed constitution, national referendum geared towards fostering peace to allow any region that wants to leave to do so.... These are some of what I believe should be done as part of the restructuring process....

You said "....I am not at all bothered by those supposed hurtful remarks because I am mature enough to understand that those who worship these politicians do so because of stomach infrastructure. If they had better opportunities and jobs, and the nation was instead headed in the right direction, many of them would have no reason to debase themselves in that manner....

Yes the hurtful tribal divisive remarks made daily on this platform by tribal champions, political agents and manipulators may not bother you personally but it should bother you when you look at it from a broader perspective.... Many Nigerians visit this platform to consume news and shape their opinion especially on national issues.... You may be matured enough not to fall for such divisive propaganda peddled here but there are many who are not so matured or too sentimental to read between the lines, they are caught up in the web of tribal political psychosis which overtime spreads from these online platforms to offline and continues the vicious divisive cycle that only favors corrupt evil politicians..... These hurtful divisive manipulative tribalistic comments which most times are based on outright lies are numerous on this platform and so many other platforms (Both online and offline), coupled with the high level of illiteracy, lack of critcal thinking abilities are some of the main reasons why many Nigerians are now too sentimentally hateful, too divided to be objective in addressing national issues.... many are too distracted on trivial issues over holding the callous government accountable....

Your comment ".....So, you can imagine how you suggest that weakening and decentralizing the system would somehow make them go away so you can feel better...." The truth is that we can not all always agree, my objective for supporting decentralization is not to silence ciritics or make myself feel good as you may presume.... It is about national progress and development.... There is nothing more frustrating, retrogressive and counter productive than what Nigerians are experiencing now.... The environment is too toxic to allow sanity to prevail.... Many Nigerians are too tribally distrustful and pained to see themselves working towards advancing the "One Nigeria" project.... Buhari and Tinubu's corrupt nepotistic mindset, coupled with their APC governments woeful performance, divisive policies, propaganda did incomprehensible damage to Nigeria's unity and I am happy you agree with me that a national reset is needed....

In your third submission, you made a stong argument when you said "....The vast difference between the regions is known however, the benefits of these differences are nowhere to be found. If you go to every one of the 774 LGAs in Nigeria, you find that not a single one of the differences you listed there has provided any economic, social, or educational advantage or benefit to the people at that level. Go further into the villages and you find that those differences have no real meaning to and in the lives of the people. So, why should a nation be divided along and for the sake of those same meaningless ideas?...."

Based on your argument, I will say the nature of the current political governing system is the root problem why 774 LGAs are in a bad state.... You may ask why do I say this.... It is simply because it is a case of who has the "Yam" and the "Knife".... the current flawed centralized power structure that is been adopted within the various tiers of government including the state levels favours impunity and does not foster accountability.... You've a situation where just like the president at the federal level, state governors are smaller gods in their various states who can hijack and do whatever they like with funds meant for local governments while hiding under FAAC and other federal limitations as some of the reasons for their incompetence... the mass political pyschosis I mentioned earlier that has taken root in the minds of many Nigerians towards the center (Federal Government) due to tribal religious sentiments will not allow Nigerians at the state level to hold these state governors accountable while the overwhelming influence of the all powerful federal government as regards state security and resource control will only reinforce that notion that federal government is to blame... it is a sad vicious cycle that only guarantees that little or no developments occurs at the LGAs....

In your final submission you said "....There is no healing to fix the mess that is the mind of Nigerians from North to South, East to West. Yes, the nation needs a reboot but as it is that reboot can only happen if an educational and value re-orientation takes place. Otherwise, this country is headed to becoming a failed state and will remain so until a different generation sits up to accomplish that which their ancestors failed to...."

Yes a sound educational system is needed to advance and liberate the minds of Nigerians but you can not get a quality educational system without good governance.... To get good governance you need a fair transparent effective governing system that accomodates the diversity of Nigeria... The current unitary centralized governing system has failed and can not work now due to the irreparable damage done as a result of polarization of certain evil divisive vices like hateful tribalism and religious bigotry that continues to weaken the people's resolve to agitate with one voice for good governance. I believe that it is only through restructuring or disintegration (dividing the country) can such vices be tamed and effective governing system be restored... Nigeria's unity has been battered to the extent that what is obtainable now is an artificial cosmetic unity which seem to only exist on paper.... decentralizing political power by restructuring or breaking up the country is an inevitable cause that will guarantee that good governance is attainable at the grass root as political and economic power will be restored to the indigenous people of each region to enable them develop at their own pace and hold their leaders accountable without the noise or deep rooted hateful divisive propaganda that exists today.... I may be wrong but I think Nigerians will be better off in a decentralized system.... I hope Nigerians can fight for this instead of waiting to vote in another hopeless electoral exercise in 2027....

Kobojunkie:
1. I don't understand what you mean by weakening and decentralizing the center. Explain this to us in better detail abeg!

2. So, you wish for this weakening and decentralization so that you can win battles against tribalists/racists whom you love to engage?

These connections you make really make little sense to me is the problem. I am not at all bothered by those supposed hurtful remarks because I am mature enough to understand that those who worship these politicians do so because of stomach infrastructure. If they had better opportunities and jobs, and the nation was instead headed in the right direction, many of them would have no reason to debase themselves in that manner. So, you can imagine how you suggest that weakening and decentralizing the system would somehow make them go away so you can feel better.

3. The vast difference between the regions is known however, the benefits of these differences are nowhere to be found. If you go to every one of the 774 LGAs in Nigeria, you find that not a single one of the differences you listed there has provided any economic, social, or educational advantage or benefit to the people at that level. Go further into the villages and you find that those differences have no real meaning to and in the lives of the people. So, why should a nation be divided along and for the sake of those same meaningless ideas?

4. There you go again jumping to a disconnected conclusion as before. How in the world will restructuring Nigeria positively impact the educational and societal damage that is Nigeria and the minds of individual Nigerians? I keep repeating that your solution is not born of logic but rather some idea you seem to have been indoctrinated with. That is the only conclusion I can reach at this point regarding it.

5. Heal? You say that as if Nigeria is at war! There is no war and there has been one in over 50 years. There is no healing to fix the mess that is the mind of Nigerians from North to South, East to West. Yes, the nation needs a reboot but as it is that reboot can only happen if an educational and value re-orientation takes place. Otherwise, this country is headed to becoming a failed state and will remain so until a different generation sits up to accomplish that which their ancestors failed to.

I disagree, restructuring will depolarize and de-escalate the hate among Nigerians..... There is currently an artificial cosmetic unity that seem to only exist on paper.... Many Nigerians are now too divided to be objective in addressing national issues.... they are constantly been manipulated on tribal grounds by evil politicians running this flawed centralized power structure that exists today as Nigeria's government .... This is why decentralizing power, restructuring or a breakup of the country is an inevitable cause that will guarantee that power is restored to the indigenous people of each region to enable them develop at their own pace, hold their leaders accountable without the noise or hateful divisive propaganda that exists today....

Difrent:
No
What we need is a change of heart by both those in position of authority and the citizens .

If you restructure , isn't it same Nigerians that will be in charge?
You just simply change one set of thieves for another, with restructuring you just widen the scope and make more money available to be stolen

No sane African country will allow a compromised and dubious character such as Tinubu to become or remain as president over these international embarrassments....

Bigkoko:
The mere fact that a foreign intelligience agency CIA, known to go rogue sometimes having a file on a president is reasons...alone to IMPEACH ASIWAJU

Yes he feels he is smart....

FourQu:
So UltraSolid tried to play on our intelligence here?

Chai, what a bateria

@ultrasound here is the updated section of your comment as shown in screenshot below.... you then grabbed my old comment to attack and insult.... Not nice....

You edited your earlier comment only to quote my response to your earlier comment as a basis to launch a personal attack on me only shows you lack integrity.... I've attached a screenshot of your comment which I replied to below....

UltraSolid:
After you wrote what is shown below, revealing your bais against Tinubu, and your subsequent conclusion he is "unfit to be President", you think anyone will believe you can be objective towards BAT? I will then waste my own time in a serious discussion with you? I already worked you out.




That is why I said in my last post:


You've show the bolded is correct with your quoted post above. Regardless of your attempt at pretending to seek solutions, it is obvious you are the typical hateful Igbo seeking Tinubu's removal from office. Waste of time engaging your sort in any back and forth.

I made that comment before you updated your comment.... I will address your updated edited comment quote for quote in a new comment....

UltraSolid:
After you wrote what is shown below, revealing your bais against Tinubu, and your subsequent conclusion he is "unfit to be President", you think anyone will believe you can be objective towards BAT? I will then waste my own time in a serious discussion with you? I already worked you out.

That is why I said in my last post:


You've show the bolded is correct with your quoted post above. Regardless of your attempt at pretending to seek solutions, it is obvious you are the typical hateful Igbo seeking Tinubu's removal from office. Waste of time engaging your sort in any back and forth.

Funny.... Your response only seem to reinforce and validate my final resolution on this thread.... Enjoy the ride....

gr8ofnnetwork:
May this never be your final take on Tinubu CIA things. God will continue to keep you busy with his issues till your children continue from wherever you will stop.
Congratulations for the soon to be relaunch.
Una never start

Okay can explain how he is trying to do it?

UltraSolid:
The problem with you people is that you are so troublesome, you can start a fight in an empty bar. If not, you'd have noted what you are demanding is what Tinubu is trying to do and be lending your support to him even if begrudgingly.

Is Tinubu's US drug related case not damning enough to declare him unfit to be president.....? Are you okay with the series of international embarrassment Nigeria is been subjected to constantly because of him? Can you hire someone with similar baggages like him as a manager in your business?

lionshare:
All this uproar over a single generic CIA response! It’s merely speculation without solid evidence. The federal government should urgently declare a state of emergency in our education sector to address the fundamental issues hindering our citizens’ ability to think critically. Am I mistaken? Do you have any proof to support your claims beyond that generic CIA statement?

Yes it is not the final or ultimate solution but it is a pathway to it.... I understand that you've given up on this generation already based on your submission. I believe a partial separation (restructuring) or full separation (Division) is better than doing nothing, it is achievable and will go a long way in helping Nigeria address most of these issues....

Kobojunkie:
Solution? What you prescribed earlier isn't a solution though since it has already been tried before and was found wanting. So why expect a solution from me? I merely know where the problem that you described as though as mass psychosis in fact comes from. The solution... yeah... not for the current generation at all.

@kobojunkie thanks for honouring my request.... I admire the detailed bullet approach you deploy in dissecting comments on this platform irrespective of how silly such comments may be.

You see the reason I blame the system is because of every day observable practical experiences on how Nigerians react to issues of governance..... Many Nigerians are helplessly tribalist when it comes to analysing national political events and issues of corruption involving government officers like president or governors.... Weakening the center and decentralizing political power to regions/states is not a silver bullet that will make all these selfish biases go away but I believe it will reduce it because then it will no longer be an issue of "....you're criticizing Tinubu because your Obi who is your tribesman did not become president wailer!...." or ".... it is good that Tinubu as president is appointing only Yoruba into his government, you will wail for eternity...." even when there are clear reasons to criticize the actions of government, such divisive destructive rhetorics, comments like these and so many other hurtful actions that Nigerians do to each other have overtime have caused irreparable distrust and damage to the little gains made towards unity that existed during Obasanjo, Yaradua and Jonathan's government.... There is need for an overhaul of the system that will create the opportunity to depolarize and de-escalate..... There is a vast difference between each region as regards, tribal, religious and cultural values, these diversities have overtime been weaponized mainly by politicians to drive a false narrative that has succeeded in dividing the people to a point that many Nigerians in the southern part of the country do not see any unifying factor between them and those in the northern part.... These same sentiment is shared by majority of those in north for obvious reasons.....

You made a great point regarding Nigeria's societal and educational value system which I agree but I think if Nigeria is restructured or divided, the social and economic competition it will bring among the regions especially at the grass root levels will go a long way in addressing this.... The prolonged polarization using divisive tribalistic religious propaganda coupled with the impunity exhibited by unrepentant looters (politicians) who steal public funds and get away with it, did a lot of damage to Nigeria's moral value system.... Nigeria needs a structural reset to heal.... Looking at some terrible tribal induced hateful comments on this thread alone, you can see that no genuine progress can be made as hateful tribalism has eaten deep into many Nigerians.... How do you explain it that there are still many people supporting the callous government that is inflicting pain on them without looking stupid....? Only a partial or full separation can restore some kind of sanity to what is happening in Nigeria....

Kobojunkie:
1. Mental problems are not that easily blamed on others or systems. So, no point abeg! Not every Nigerian from that system is tribalistic and bigoted even though the vast majority turned out that way, so it is a copout of sorts to try to blame it on the system when it is more of individual psychosis.

2. My simple conclusion is that our value systems in Nigeria, and much of Africa are utterly worthless particularly where it has to do with personal and societal development. The society and educational system have been wrong for a long time and that is why we rarely raise people who put society and the welfare of others before their selfish desires and goals. Even at the tribal and traditional level, the very same is obtained. It's a no-brainer then why at the national level, all we have is the same mirror shone back at society. That's been my thought since my days growing up in Nigeria and it remains the same even today. Until we reconfigure our value system at the bottom, Nigerians will continue in the same part even if you were to divide it up this very day into over 250 different pieces— a piece for every ethnic group.

@kobojunkie I am waiting for a solution oriented reply from you to my last post

Kobojunkie:
That is pretty much what the majority of Nigerians in Nigeria live for. Yet are carbon copies of their politicians only without the opportunity to loot at the same level.

The joke is on you.... Your personal attacks can not remove Tinubu's baggages, a dubious personality like him is not fit to be Nigeria's president in my opinion... I made a resolution in my post that I believe will benefit all Nigerians including you yet you are so bitter that you are quick to resort to insulting me.... Nigeria needs to be restructured or divided so that you can avoid the emotional bitterness you exhibiting here..... It needs to happen so that you can be happy having Tinubu as your leader in your region and others moving on to choose who they like as their leader.....

Kdon2:
I am ashamed this one too will classify himself as educated! This here is a supposedly educated trash Nigeria produced! What a shane. Tinubu is a CIA agent and the us government will openly admit it because of hungry dog? Real shame to all the bloody years you spent in your so called school. Real shame☹️

I blame the system that is currently in place and not really the tribalistic majority or the opportunistic corrupt politicians that are benefitting from it..... Seem you misunderstood me as what I am trying to say is that Nigeria is running on a faulty system that can not work for the people, it brings out the worst in Nigerians and always divides them..... I am totally convinced that no genuine progress can be made unless that system is modified or removed..... The mass political psychosis among Nigerians will only get worse as greedy selfish politicians like Tinubu et al continue to push divisive propaganda to take advantage of the disunity among Nigerians and plunder the nation's resourses.... I've made my point regarding the best way out for Nigerians. Can you proffer a solution or suggest ways these issues can be tackled instead of your continued microscopic defeatist rebuttal to my posts?

I want to read your thoughts on how best to handle this situation..... In your own words "....The Nigerian people who have yet to lift a single finger to fight for that which you claim they want?...." Why do you think Nigerians are like this? Do you believe there is hope of anything changing for the better? For the minority who do not share in the foolishness of the majority and can not japa but are stuck in Nigeria what do you suggest they should do?

Will like to read your thoughts on these issues....

Kobojunkie:
That sounds more like an excuse than anything else actually. Yes, the FG has a lot of power, however, it is not the only power in the country at all, and neither is it the government will the only say when it comes to the lives and livelihood of the people at the bottom. That you describe the average Nigerian as tribalistic and hence inordinately distracted by that which he/she should not be is to attempt to shift blame for the problems individual Nigerians have— albeit what seems a majority — on the Government. I mean what you described seems more like a psychological problem than anything else.

Did you read the news about it?

HgAkpobomeEr:
Where is the shame in the response to the FOIA request?

I am of the opinion that there exists a mass political psychosis in Nigeria due to the centralized power structure that is been adopted within the various tiers of government.... Because of inherent tribalistic instincts of the average Nigerian, many people are automatically conditioned to focus at the center (Federal Government) when benchmarking and evaluating government performance. You can not blame them per say as so much power and resouces is concentrated at the center (Federal Government). This is why the person who gets to occupy the office of the president is seen as a mini god in eyes of Nigerians, he is seen as one who can do and undo.... The current useless crop of politicians running the government knows this and they have overtime perfected the art of using it to their advantage against the people. State governors are able to get away with incompetence by promoting both phantom and statutory limitations imposed on them by the federal government as a major reason for underperformance while the president at federal level plays tribal victim card by rallying his base and tribes men against other Nigerians to cover his loot and cover his woeful performance..... These prolonged propaganda orchestrated by evil politicials within the various arms of the government has weakened and conquered the people.... Nigerians are too divided now to see and tackle these issues objectively. I had hoped that the widespread hunger, the disastrous and terrible economic situation unleashed by Tinubu's government would've been a uniting factor among Nigerians but unfortunately I was wrong as hateful tribalism and religious bigotry still prevailed. This is why I am totally convinced that Nigeria needs to be totally restructured or divided for the people to have a chance at experiencing genuine sustainable progress..... Majority of Nigerians may not agree with my final submission now but with time they may understand why and actually do something about it.... Nigeria is in a terrible situation now but it is not over as there is still a little time left to salvage the country..... As I said earlier, I will continue to engage with Nigerians on these platforms, I will continue to push for a better country and I hope it happens but If majority of Nigerians decide to do nothing and they fail to save the country.... Then my consolation over the eventual destruction of the country is that I was not silent, I tried to warn them....

Kobojunkie:
There has to exist a direct connection between this final thought of yours and the reality of things as they exist. That connection is entirely missing from all of your write-ups so far.

2. There are 774 local government areas in Nigeria... municipalities where if the people truly wished for progress, they could easily begin making it happen for themselves as is. To date, none of those 774 municipalities can boast of any of the following
■ Clean water supply to homes
■ Robust sewage and water management system
■ Effective Waste management system
■ Good schools with world-standard educational and Skills training services
■ Internet connectivity in both homes and businesses
■ Electricity supply to homes and businesses(through building of dams, use of wind turbines, and better distribution services)
■ World Standard equipped Healthcare network
■ Sturdy road network complete
■ Passenger Rail system linking at least the major towns and cities
■ Network of Libraries with free access to members of the public to support learning
■ Better prison facilities and rehabilitation programs
■ Expansion of police-community programs to help capture crimes across all parts of the state.
■ Robust Gas transmission network for the direct piping of gas into homes. , etc.

And this is all despite the billions in remissions sent back to Nigeria year after year by people abroad. So, what makes you think that division of Nigeria is the answer to development at the local level where nothing really stopping that even today.

You are right, my opinion is not popular among the majority and has not been accepted by the majority till now because even before the 2023 presidential election, I had decided to embark on a personal campaign to enlighten and convince the majority regarding the need to look beyond useless elections that are always rigged in finding a lasting solution to Nigeria's prioblems.... I do not support any of the popular candidates (Atiku, Obi or Tinubu) or even believe that participating in presidential election can bring about any positive change to Nigeria.... I've always maintained my stand on the notion that Nigeria has a foundational problem....

As they say good things sometimes require great patience and effort to achieve, I believe that what we post on popular platforms like Nairaland is been read by many Nigerians so even though currently it appears to be a hopeless cause to galvanise the majority to see the need to change the status quo, I believe that there is hope due to the fact that many Nigerians login to these platforms to read these posts.... This is why I've continued to engage and air my opinion regarding Nigeria's issues on these social platforms believing that hopefully, one day Nigerians will see the need to fight for their future.... Tinubu's presidency has reinforced my earlier conviction that Nigeria can not work for the people in it's current form unless it is totally restructured or divided.... I will hold on to that hope and continue to air views until maybe Nigeria is saved or it is totally destroyed.... Above all, it is the Nigerian people that will decide the fate of Nigeria....

Kobojunkie:
1. It's hopeless pretending? Who is pretending though? The Nigerian people who have yet to lift a single finger to fight for that which you claim they want? Or the Politicians who are very much at home with things — the people's reaction and the free loot they continue to nab— as they are?

2. The majority of citizens who do absolutely nothing cut across pretty much every tribe and group in that Nation. So, who are you trying to save? A minority who really have no place of their own anywhere in that nation among any single group? COME ON!!

3. Considering what you typed earlier, this amounts to a bullsheet conclusion. Again, the majority you described earlier belong to every tribe, every religion, every group, and every divide in that nation. They have no desire whatsoever to fight for change or anything of the sort since they are at home with all that exists as is. So, why do you keep pushing these disconnected ideas as solutions?

Cognitive dissonance na craze ooo! 😶😶😶😶😶

Yes he is your president that is why I am making the case for Nigerians to restructure or divide the country so you can enjoy your president in peace and let others who do not want him to move on.....

odejimioflagos:
Tinubu is the president and he will continue to be the president.

All these noise is just noise.

I am only sharing my final thoughts on what is best for Nigerians, I do not know how Nigerians will achieve it or what they really want as a people.... The truth is that Nigerians are wasting their time as nothing good can come from forcing a union that can not work..... I am totally convinced that Nigeria needs to be totally restructured or divided.... Nothing can solve the country's problem until it is done....

Kobojunkie:
That makes no sense!

The people refuse to lift even a finger to impeach him but somehow magically you conclude that what is needed is for the country to be restructured and divided. What is up with the way you all reason? Who's gonna make that happen if not the same comatose people who refuse to impeach the Tinubu you are against? Or are you seriously trying to say that the politician in office today would somehow grow a conscience and hand you a divided Nigeria on a platter or something? Wake the fk up abeg!

I am totally convinced that Nigeria needs to be totally restructured or divided.... Nothing can solve the country's problem until it is done....

Okay this is why I am making the case for Nigerians to restructure or divide the country so you can enjoy your president in peace and let others who do not want him to move on.....

Anither563:
This is a very long but shameful hate speech. Anyone who has lost a loved one to drug abuse and trafficking will be deeply pained by this fake news and hate speech.

May God bless Nigeria for ever!

I know that is why I am making the case for Nigerians to restructure or divide the country so you can enjoy your president in peace and let others who do not want him to move on.....

tundegan:
We are not going anywhere.

Tinubu is our president and he will serve his full term.

All these wishful thinking from the opposition will not work.

Earlier today, news of an update regarding David Hundeyin's FOIA disclosure case on Tinubu was published by many news websites. As usual, Nigerians were quick to react to it by posting comments on several social media websites, I was privilaged to engage with several users of this platform on matter and I must say that some of the comments I read were shocking, I felt ashamed reading these comments because it is challenging to believe that educated people will reason or behave the way some users reacted to the issue.... What I learnt from Tinubu's CIA asset scandal is that many Nigerians have no moral compass left in them and will support Tinubu even if a video evidence is presented showing that he shot and killed a child in cold blood. Simply put, many Nigerians are willing to trade their life on the alter of tribalism to ensure that Tinubu remains the president irrespective of whatever evil act he does.....

US intelligence agency's response to the FOIA requests was a damning one that I believe no sane sovereign African country will treat with lavity. The reaction of many Nigerians and the Nigerian government to this issue led to me to my final conclusion that Nigeria is indeed not a sane country because if Nigeria is a sane country, the fact that Tinubu was implicated in a drug related case and has a damning file in the possession of a foreign government should be enough reason to impeach and remove him immediately.... Seeing Nigerians insulting and fighting each other instead of calling for his impeachment today was a shameful sight to behold....

It is hopeless to keep pretending that Nigeria can function as a sane country or attain any meaningful progress when a majority of it's citizens are deeply biased, sentimentally compromised towards holding their government accountable, when a majority of it's citizens are incapable of admitting the truth about a crime committed irrespectful of the tribe of the person involved due to deep rooted tribal hateful sentiments ..... Tinubu's shameful presidency lays credence to the fact that the APC propaganda machine have won and Nigeria's enemies are laughing at Nigerians....

Since majority of the people have become hopelessly lost to tribalism, religious bigotry, corruption and dishonesty to the point they can longer tell themselves the truth or reason like normal human beings, Nigerians have only 2 options to choose if they want to salvage what is left of their country.

First option - Weaken the centralized government by decentralizing political and economic power structures to devolve to regions/states.....

Second option - Divide the country so it's regions can go separate ways....

Anything short of these 2 options is a waste of time... Nigeria's unity is a scam, Nigeria's unity is a mirage..... it's a shame.....