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Culture / Re: . by bigfrancis021: 6:45pm On May 29, 2013
nnenna.1:
Bro, sorry to ask this, but...

So?

Why not so?
Culture / Re: Which Nigerian Tribe Owns Ogbono Soup, Okro Soup, Egusi Soup , Vegetable , White by bigfrancis021: 6:35pm On May 29, 2013
bokohalal: Nigerians are very funny.
Egusi and okro are not the names many Nigerian natives call it. That it is popularly called by a particular name used by a certain people does not mean they own it. Who owns the name is different from who owns the soup.

This is where you got it all wrong. The origin of a name or word also has an attendant object/thing attached to it. It didn't just pop out of no where. Names such as Michael, Andrew, Jakes etc are all English names. Just because these names are popular in usage among Nigerians and africans worldwide doesn't suddenly change their origin from English to African.

Egwusi/Ogbono/Ora/Okwuru are as Igbo as Emeka or Ifeanyi. Its just like someone coming out tomorrow to doubt the origin of 'Obiageli' or 'Nnamdi'. Lol.

This should not even be an issue of debate in the first place.

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Culture / Re: Dna Test Confirms I Share 87% Nigerian Dna 84% Yoruba. by bigfrancis021: 5:41pm On May 29, 2013
shymexx: ^^^^Can you read? The guy said he has done [b]3 DNA tests!! Posted an epistle and said a lot without actually saying nothing smfdh.
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@OP

Ignore people like the guy above me. They're irredeemable bigots! grin

Anyway, you can buy a book about the history of the Yoruba's on amazon. Welcome home, bruddah.

You need to adopt a Yoruba name. Perhaps, you can adopt Malcolm-X's Yoruba name(Omowale). wink

I think you're the one who actually failed to understand what the guy wrote and the corresponding statement I made. You're only interested in the fact that his result turned out yoruba, which was only a speculation from the DNA company. The guy said he did as many as 3 DNA testing and it was only the last result that came out bearing yoruba ancestry, which the company said was likely, and not conclusively. Prodding further, why didn't the earlier first two results also turn out with yoruba ancestry, at least for consistency's sake? In order for him to conclusively say if he's yoruba or not, I advised him to go for the last DNA testing to see if the result also turns up Yoruba. Only then can he be sure of it.

Below is a quote from somebody who did the test only to get a different result from what reality is.


I looked at my results yesterday but was disappointed that my pedigree ethnicity was so different than my genetic ethnicity, enough to think perhaps there is a problem with my results. For instance, my results state that my genetic ethnicity is 91% British Isles, 6% Russian/Persian/Turkish, and 3% Other. This does not match my pedigree. My pedigree on both sides of parents is predominantly French, as most of my ancestors were French colonists of Canada, Acadia, and Louisiana. Out of the nearly 3,000 people in my family tree, I have none that are from the Russian/Persian/Turkish part of the world… that was a total surprise.
http://genejourneys.com/2012/03/10/ancestry-com-autosomal-dna-test-part-ii/

Believe me, I am an avid supporter of DNA testing, but only testings done with reputable companies.
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Culture / Re: Dna Test Confirms I Share 87% Nigerian Dna 84% Yoruba. by bigfrancis021: 4:28pm On May 29, 2013
brownredwhite: Hello everyone I am a ? I don't know wether to use the term African-American or Black American but I've had 3 dna test done and I know its excessive but I just wanted to know for sure where my ancestors came from and aside from being 13% various European admixture including eastern European jew .7% native American and the biggest was 84% Sub Saharan African and the people that did my last test said my dna most likely came from with 84% the Yoruba. I'm happy that I finally have found this out for myself and my maternal side of the family... most of us African-Americans in my mind are messed up in the head because we don't know where we come from or our history. . I'm proud to be an American I'm just glad I have another people to connect with and learn about as much as I can. Sorry for all that ...but... I wanted to ask you two things 1 is if you think I look like a person who could be a Yoruba or from what tribe? and please can someone tell me good things about the Yoruba I've read the history on line but when I read this site I hear a lot of trash talking I asked my doctor who's Nigerian and he said its like how the English men talks about the French men... just smack talking... well thanks for entertaining my obsession.

From the bolded above, their statement sounds more like a speculation. DNA results when given should be given with full certainty. When DNA companies conduct ancestry DNA tests, they take a sample of your DNA and compare it with several DNA samples in their database gotten from several tribes in Africa. At times, they don't get an exact match to a particular group and in such cases like this they quickly assume and pin you down to the partial match even though evidence may not be conclusive enough to decide. Only in some cases, however, do they get fully correlating matches. Many of these DNA companies lack comprehensive african DNA samples in their databases thereby reducing the possibility of other minor african ancestries popping up in results. When some companies don't get correlating results, they'll just make decisions based on what they've read in books on slave trade or popular notions about where most african slaves came from. Just a few companies actually took their time to go to africa to collect actual blood samples from the several regions where slaves were brought from. Stories of people are on the internet who first tested using a particular DNA company and got a result only to get a totally different result when they tested at another company. At least this fact is validated by your statement that you had to go for testing to as many as 3 companies, with each one giving differing ancestral results.

It doesn't sound like the company got a sure bet and only gave you a speculation based on guesses. Only a few DNA companies are really trust worthy. To prove or disprove your Yoruba ancestry, test yourself at another DNA company, this time a reputable one, and see if the new result tallies with the former. Only then can you be sure.
Culture / Re: Which Nigerian Tribe Owns Ogbono Soup, Okro Soup, Egusi Soup , Vegetable , White by bigfrancis021: 4:08pm On May 29, 2013
onila: these soups are eaten by all Nigerian tribes
but who owns them?

we all know ukazi=igbo. .ewedu -yoruba
afang, edidkaiking =efik, ibibio

but who owns okro, ogbono, egusi, white soup etc

Okra (Pronounced properly as Okwuru in Igbo) is an Igbo soup. The English word, 'okro' was derived from the Igbo word' 'Okwuru'.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/okra

Ogbono and Egusi are also Igbo native soups. The proper name for 'Egusi' is 'Egwusi' and that is the way the Igbo people pronounce it. 'Enugu' is meant to have been 'Enugwu' meaning 'on top of the mountain' but the spelling is anglicized. Igbo dishes (Okro, Egusi, Ogbono, Onugbu etc) are the most common native dishes you find in Nigeria and the most likely ones you'll get served with at Nigerian restaurants outside Nigeria. Just because the soups became popular all over Nigeria doesn't mean that we'll deny the obvious which is their Igbo origin. Vegetable soup (edikangkong) is an ibibio-efik soup also popular in Nigeria.

However, these soups have become so popular all over Nigeria that several tribes have adopted their own ways of cooking the soups. But generally, especially in Lagos where the different cooking styles exist, the Igbo cooking style is still preferred over other cooking styles.

The yoruba have their own several native meals of which only a few are popular to an extent, the most popular being amala and ewedu.


ondo_boi: okro & egusi = yoruba
ogbona & white soup (nsala) =igbo

Who told you that Okro and Egusi are yoruba soups? Please don't come up here claiming what you don't know. Because the soups are popular suddenly makes them Yoruba soups, right? Aren't Ewedu, Efo riro and the rest your so-called yoruba soups?

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Travel / Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part4 by bigfrancis021: 10:17am On May 04, 2013
Nairaland FBI:


I am still very much around. I chose not to waste my time on frivolities, instead I would rather focus on very important matters. I am preparing for my interview that is less than 30 days away. I have chosen to go back and read the interviews of people that showed confidence during their interview.

Arroy1 and Djunit1 are perfect examples. I go through these interviews everytime because they eased through their interviews like it was a piece of cake.

Most of the people being denied are people who cram nonsense in their head. I refuse to be seen as such a candidate by a VO.

Your interview shall be a success. You shall come back here and post your amazing success. Goodluck.
Travel / Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part4 by bigfrancis021: 9:47am On May 04, 2013
grin grin
Bigfrancis21 the attention seeker. grin

When has minding one's business become an issue of fear? shocked

On this thread I don't ever indulge in side talks. Whenever I come here I mean business. I'm a busy person and when I get on here I go straight to the point. It can be counted the number of people I joke with here. I give attention to those that are worth my attention. tongue I and many of the friends I made from this forum chat outside nairaland. tongue

How could I possibly feel invalidated in sending materials when I wholeheartedly contributed by sending all the download links I have to Webstradamus when he was setting up the automatic email response? Of which he acknowledged me in his second to last post? cheesy

This world is a funny place indeed. Just like my brother said in a previous post, in life you must meet both the negative and positive ones. grin

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Travel / Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part4 by bigfrancis021: 5:35pm On May 03, 2013
pawn89: Wonderful thread,am glad to know that there are people working and researching their asses off just to stay on tab to help others. I am expecting my I20 form by next week from Florida International University, so i really like to know how to proceed from there from my brothers who has gone through this process.
The next step I think is to secure my visa and i need help on that.
What are the documents that are needed, how much funds should be available on my account and for how long would the funds need to be there. All these and lots more i'd like to know.

Thanks.

Once your I-20 arrives, the next step is to first pay your SEVIS fee before you then schedule your interview appointment.
Travel / Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part4 by bigfrancis021: 5:19pm On May 03, 2013
imperiouxx:

Keep up the good work brother. I got enough of things like that too, even updated ones.

Thanks man.

This is my second account. Anti-spam bot got me for a few hours for writing card validation code (in abbreviation) in the post above I replied to mr swagger. Luckily he quoted it before anti spam bot hid it. grin

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