SIRTee15:


If Allah is one and single as Muslims want us to believe, then everything about Allah's form and existence should be Allah otherwise he not single.

That means his essence should be uniformly distributed in whatever form he exist.

But if U are telling me Allah has a shin but I cannot worship the shin. That means his shin doesn't have the essence of Allah.
That automatically mean Allah is a composite being who's made up of parts just like human beings even if Muslims don't want to admit.

For example my leg is not me, my hands are not me and my face isn't me. Humans are not single beings but composite beings.

That's why someone with a leg amputation still retain his full identity because the amputated leg isn't the person, it's just part of the person that no longer exist with him.
Above is the description of the god of the Muslims. A god made up of body parts, what a god!!!

I don’t agree with the crux of your arguement that you retain your full identity if you lose a piece of yourself

That said, isn’t Allah a deity? Same as Christian/Jewsih God, and not a physical one. So the same rules of worshipping Gods shin would apply to Allahs shin? What am I missing?

lawani:


It is about land. A nation needs land to qualify as one. Israel became a nation when the children of Jacob were granted land in Egypt. They multiplied rapidly for four centuries and they became a nation then moved out of Egypt to the peripheral of Egyptian territory which is Israel and Palestine today. If they had given them China that far back they would be over one billion souls today.

This makes sense except current day Jews are basically Europeans originating from Central Europe and the Iberian peninsula; unless we are referring to a different people (?)

SIRTee15:


Show me Tawhid in your Koran.

Are U not the one I asked if I could worship the shin of Allah and I'm yet to get a response.

What is the significance in worshipping the shin? Why shin?

Kobojunkie:
What God gave to Moses and the children of Israel in the wilderness, after He took them out of slavery in Egypt was the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan; God of Isreal formed a Nation which He called Israel by way of the Law of Moses.

After the death of Solomon, the original nation of Israel was split into two nations — the northern nation of Israel and the Southern nation of Judae, both of them Israelite nations. The Southern Nation consisted mainly of Israelites of the tribes of Judah, Levi, and Benjamin. whereas the other tribes went with the Northern nation.

So the Jews being a subset of Israel means both the Nation of Israel(before it was split in two) and the Tribes of Israel.

2. This isn't about what derogatory terms Jews use for those who aren't one of them.

3. Nope! After Adam and Eve chose to go it alone without God in the beginning, God washed His hands off the affairs of men, so men could have His way. God chose for Himself a people of His own to use in accomplishing His very plan from the beginning, a plan to create Sons of God with whom to rule over the world. That seemed to be His plan from the beginning and it remains His plan, regardless of what men choose for themselves.

The main thing I’m still lost with is who should the rest of us be worshipping? I saw an older post of yours questioning why we praise Jesus as he told us not to. Are non Jews damned from birth since God only cares about this one tribe?

my statement about Jews seeing non Jews as goy/livestock - I meant it in regard to the attitude they carry with it which seems to tie into everything g else you are saying about God having one favourite/chosen group of people

Can you recommend any reading (outside of the Bible) to explore this topic some more

Kobojunkie:
Questions on the topic does not bore me.

Let’s go in on this then….

Jesus Christ said He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel; Jews are but a subset of the Nation of Israel. Jesus Christ said non-Israelites -- those He refered to as Dogs -- are not welcome to have the Kingdom of God as His Father sent Him only to the Lost Sheep of Israel. undecided

I’m guessing you mean “Jews are but a subset of the TRIBES of isreal”? And not nation. is this akin to the 12 tribes of isreal that the black Israelites in the us preach about?

Jews refer to non Jews as goy and believe they are inferior/lesser humans on the same level as livestock - assuming this relates to the dog part. Are the rest of us from somewhere else? Different God? Or simply here to serve Jews? How do you reconcile this? What is his beef with the dogs?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ said He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel; Jews are but a subset of the Nation of Israel. Jesus Christ said non-Israelites -- those He refered to as Dogs -- are not welcome to have the Kingdom of God as His Father sent Him only to the Lost Sheep of Israel.

2. He referred to Himself as God of Israel and proclaimed Israel His only inheritance in the land of men. This is His plan made clear in that book from the beginning.

Thank you sha, this is stuff I’ve never come across before. This leaves me with more questions but I won’t hold you and bore the thread.

Kobojunkiee:
▶ You believe you were debating me while throwing religion, which is against Jesus Christ, at me in the name of Jesus Christ?
▶ You believe you were debating me while throwing around formulations and ideas that were postulated by those whom Jesus Christ referred to as dogs — non-Israelites — at me in the name of Jesus Christ who He said was sent only to the Lost sheep of Israel?

Nah! You were not debating me. Rather you were trying to insult my intelligence.

Enjoying this debate. Quick question as my knowledge is lacking on this topic….Are you saying Jesus referred to/sees non Jews as dogs? Implying God is strictly a Jew God? Where does that put everyone else?

Oghene86:


What did Palestinians expect when they did what they did on October 7th, that Israel would clap for them, whoever advised them into that misled them, all other arabs countries would not attack Israel even Iran if not they would all lose their sovereignty to Israel.

All other Arab nations are paid to be friendly with isreal by the US. Israel’s acceptance in the world is not organic

ruggedtimi:
most arabs dnt like the palestines....mostly because of the suni and shiite beef.

Also because there’s a history of political unrest in whatever host nation takes in the palestines; that’s mainly why none of the neighboring countries want them

emperor4love:
is it today this people start building craft,then y now,u de bring mouth to country way first invent,wen Africans de wear leaf,dis is an attack,with betrayer lik snowden and others might hv leak information to there enemies

Snowden is a American hero and you expose yourself as an uninformed idiot to call him a betrayer