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dem_people:
@OP,

I'll be simplistic as possible in other not to confuse you. Don't mind Beaf and his C#.

As an Enterprise Architect, I'm not gonna lie to you or deceive you. It depends on what part of programming you're interested in. If its enterprise application development then java is your best bet. It's API is larger than windows among other benefits.

The amount of jobs in java is way more than C#. If its hardware specific application development  then you're indeed talking about using C++ together with Very High Speed Integrated Circuit Hardware Description Language (VHDL) or Verilog. When in combination, you're winner. Companies would throw money at you.

My main advise is this. You need to understand the fundamentals of Object Oriented Programming (OOP) in other to understand C++, Java or C#. Java itself is 100% OOP (Except with primitives which when wrapped with wrappers, acts as objects which can be used in arrays and collections (generics)).

And so if you've not programmed before then you could start with the C -language in other to understand procedural programming and then, migrating to Java where you'll appreciate OOP better.

Java is also better than C++ in terms of inheritance, garbage collection & memory management etc. Also, the use of pointers in C++ is a no-no as non-expert usage of it, can severely crash a program etc but, I wouldn't get too technical with you so as not to confuse you but, I'm trying to "excite" you!

Go with Java. Recommended books; Thinking in Java (Bruce Eckel). If this book is too boring for you then try  the humoristic "Head First Java" ( Sierra & Bates).

Thanks for your insightful post.

ekt_bear:
If you are just starting out with learning how to program, I'd suggest first mastering a scripting language of some sort.

I use Ruby personally, but I'd suggest Python for someone starting from scratch (Lisp and Scheme are also pretty popular in academic/"first course on computer science" circles.)

So why a scripting language? Generally less code written to accomplish the same tasks as compiled languages like Java, C++ and C. Which means more time focusing on the big picture than on details, and thus more time actually learning important concepts. Reducing the amount of time it takes for you to go from "I'd like to write an application that does X" to actually rolling out that application I think is kind of important when you first start programming. . . it helps you stay motivated. And with the libraries available today, pretty much anything you want to do with a compiled language you can do with a scripting language. . . with Ruby I recently wrote some numerical linear algebra software. And you can also do GUIs, etc, etc.

Of course, there is a downside with interpreted languages. . . they usually are a bit slower than compiled languages. But for you, since you are starting from scratch and mainly trying to teach yourself, performance doesn't really matter at this point.

Now, if you get serious about programming or want to do it for a career, at some point you'll need to pick up additional languages. For example, if you follow my advice and master Python, your next job/project might end up using Java instead (for example.)

From what I've seen, the first language you learn is very unlikely to be the one you end up using later in life 

Fortunately, once you master one programming language, to add the next one basically is just learning new syntax. I guess that is why I emphasize picking a relatively easy but expressive, well-designed language to start (like Python) so you can master the important ideas.

Thanks for your several posts on the topic. I get your point. Thanks!!

BizBooks:
As some people have said, Visual Basic is best suited for beginners. Do not start with C or even C++. They are more complex. A task that you can accomplish with 5 lines of code in VB may require 20 or more lines in C. Take the classic "Hello World" as an example:

Hello World in VB6:

Private Sub Command1_Click()

Msgbox "Hello Word"

End Sub


Hello World in C:

/* Hello World program */

#include<stdio.h>

main()

{

   printf("Hello World";

}

As you can see, VB took only 3 lines while C took 6. Also VB was practically written in plain English, while C involves a lot of computer jargon.

Start with this book and go from there: "Beginning Visual Basic 6 by Peter Wright". Like most beginner books, it assumes that you know absolutely nothing about the subject.

Good luck.

Thanks brov. I like the way you have broken it down and made it so clear. Thanks.

blindcopy:
We are overanalyzing his problem, people. The boy wants to learn PROGRAMMING. He doesnt know squat yet.

Once he understands PROGRAMMING, then he will be able to learn any PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE he wants in a few days max. Then you can start looking at stuff like, 'are there good prospects' or 'what are the career options', etc.

@Topic:

My friend, these are the two languages you should use to learn PROGRAMMING. Once you understand programming, then your next question will be
"What language is best for web development?" and then we can start arguing about php, python, etc.

Here are the answers:

1. To learn HOW TO PROGRAM: Use visual basic. Dont listen to what anyone else says. It is super easy and you will quickly grasp the basics.

2. To learn OBJECT ORIENTED PROGRAMMING: Use Java. It has the double benefit of being commercially successful, and in high demand but most importantly, a lot of quality info on the net about OOP assumes you know java. Also, it is a way to graduate from the hand-holding IDE of visual basic (you will learn what an IDE is when u study VB) to a less hand-holdy environment.

When you are through learning, from there you can jump into ANY language. Trust me. Follow this path and you can't go wrong!

Thanks man. Your point is well noted. Thanks a million!

Afritelly:
Depend on what you want to do. All programming are good for their purposes.

Thnaks for your input. i intend taking programing as a career. While I want to pick on a programing language and learning it, i don't want to pick on one that would offer me no good opportunities in the market. Thanx.

Beaf:
I would advice C# on the .NET platform. C# is about the easiest compiled language to learn, its built in library is also by far the most comprehensive.

The .NET platform is the most powerful and supported Rapid Application Development (RAD) environment in existence. The IDE, Visual Studio is second to none, in fact it is light years ahead of its closest rival (Java's Eclipse).
The beauty and versatility of C# have caused it to be adopted outside the Windows OS. Here are a couple of examples:

Mono
This is basically .NET for Linux. Same code on Windows will run smoothly (although Mono always lags a bit behind .NET).

Vala
This is C# compiled to native (C). Originally designed for Unix type Operating Systems (Linux, Solaris etc), its since been ported to Windows, so you can create a Vala app in Visual Studio and with very few simple changes, compile it to C source code, which you can then compile with any C compiler into a native assembly. Cool!

C# is the future, and its an exciting place to be.

@Beaf, I must say that your reply is very comprehensive and insightful. Thanks for your selfless help. Much appreciated. Thanks.

blacksta:
The most important programming language to learn is the one that guaranties great career prospects just in case you plan on becoming a programmer.

tip - Right now the demand for Java developers is really scary at the moment it is ratio of almost 5 jobs to a Java person.

Thanx brov. Your post is a second vote to start with java. Your revelation on the job opportunities available to java programmers is intriguing. Thanks man.

Fayimora:
Dunno what you want to do with your skills but i would advice Java. Its got A LOT to it

Thanks man, a lot of peeps also advised on that one. Would surely look into it. Thanx!

I've read the replies to other programing related posts, and i must say that i'm overwhelmed at the number of progamming geeks we have on NL.

I'm an aspiring progammer too but i'm very confused and in  need of advise. i don't know the language that is best to start with. Some people have been advising C+ while some have been talking of .NET. what do you guys think? i need good advises pls!

I've read all the replies to the op, and i must say that i'm overwhelmed at the number of progamming geeks we have on NL.

I'm an aspiring progammer too but i need advise. i don't know the language that is best to start with. Some people have been advising C+ while some have been talking of .NET. what do you guys think? i need good advises pls!

Blog icon:
@ kashif thanks for your input. I have been trying to give you a reply since yesterday but the bot has been a serious pain in the backside!

I agree with your view (in the near term). I think you misunderstood me when I said 'prepare to go long'. I wasn't talking of anytime now; it could be next week.

After running round in circles with FX trading and loosing much money (in the past), I've found out long-term trading combined with sound Risk to Reward ratio to be my sort of 'holy grail', and that's why I only do long term trades. So when I was advising a buy, I'm looking more into the future: a weeks time or days.

It's obvious that the Aud-Usd has been in a straight uptrend and has hit some kind of resistance and correcting now. I'm only looking at the current downtrend of the Aud-Usd pair as a correction; and of course is capable of giving some nice pips to intra-day trends. I fully recognize the presence of a resistance and the current (near-time) down-trend, but purposely ignoring it and waiting for the up trend (larger trend) to continue.

Thanks man for your input hope you understand where I'm comming from 2. Good luck with your trading.

Actually, the uptrend seems to have begun. I bought the Aud-Usd pair after New York's close yesterday(above the daily bullish pinbar that formed off the daily EMA; @ a 50% retracement of the pibar actually). It is up by 35 pips. The chart is attached below as proof.

I entered with a risk of 45 pips and targeting 90 pips; which looks feasible. That's a nice 1:2 risk-to-reward ratio; the typical set-ups I take nowadays. Let's keep our fingers crossed and see how this goes.

Sorry to the members of this thread for my inability to update you guys. I tried posting the trade call (as @ 9pm last nyt), but the bot kept interrupting. I seriously need to look for a fail-safe method of updating you guys; perhaps a blog or something. Would repay you guys with a better trade set-up later.

Peace man!

blink182:
Does your broker offer 1:500 leverage?

No. The highest leverage my broker offers is 1:200 which is on a mini account; and 1:100 on a standard account. In my opinion 1:200 is more than enough for all your trading needs. 1:50 good, 1:100 is better, 1:200 is high and 1:500 is

Sorry I couldn't reply early enough; the bot is to blame. Have a nice day man.

Blog icon:
@ kashif thanks for your input. I have been trying to give you a reply since yesterday but the bot has been a serious pain in the backside!

I agree with your view (in the near term). I think you misunderstood me when I said 'prepare to go long'. I wasn't talking of anytime now; it could be next week.

After running round in circles with FX trading and loosing much money (in the past), I've found out long-term trading combined with sound Risk to Reward ratio to be my sort of 'holy grail', and that's why I only do long term trades. So when I was advising a buy, I'm looking more into the future: a weeks time or days.

It's obvious that the Aud-Usd has been in a straight uptrend and has hit some kind of resistance and correcting now. I'm only looking at the current downtrend of the Aud-Usd pair as a correction; and of course is capable of giving some nice pips to intra-day trends. I fully recognize the presence of a resistance and the current (near-time) down-trend, but purposely ignoring it and waiting for the up trend (larger trend) to continue.

Thanks man for your input hope you understand where I'm comming from 2. Good luck with your trading.

Actually, the uptrend seems to have begun. I bought the Aud-Usd pair after New York's close yesterday(above the daily bullish pinbar that formed off the daily EMA; @ a 50% retracement of the pibar actually). It is up by 35 pips. The chart is attached below as proof.

I entered with a risk of 45 pips and targeting 90 pips; which looks feasible. That's a nice 1:2 risk-to-reward ratio; the typical set-ups I take nowadays. Let's keep our fingers crossed and see how this goes.

Sorry to the members of this thread for my inability to update you guys. I tried posting the trade call (as @ 9pm last nyt), but the bot kept interrupting. I seriously need to look for a fail-safe method of updating you guys; perhaps a blog or something. Would repay you guys with a better trade set-up later.

Peace man!

meshpips:
@ blog icon, are u still buying silver? I just sold at 38.4x looking at 36.36 and beneath.
I suggest that you re-assess your position.
Happy trading!
Meshach.

Actually yes! There was absolutely no need to reassess my position cos Price Action does not lie! My original TP was set for 140 pips, but I've far surpassed that now. I saw the potential of silver going up more and decided to trail it. I'm now doing 225 pips as I update this; a chart is attached below as proof.

That's what you get when you trade in the direction of the larger trend (up in this case). Simply look to buy in weakness of a trend. Forex is sweet!!

Goodluck with your trading man!!

david90:
@blog icon, there is no chat attached here

Dave, sorry I couldn't post the charts as expected cos I was banned.

The charts are as attached below. Although the market seem to be moving away from the market areas on the chart, but then Let's still keep our eyes on it.

I've kind of shifted my focus to Aud-Usd as it is moving down nicely. It's my hope that it reacts nicely to it's support and gives us a good buying opportunity. If we don't get the buy opportunity we so seek (i.e the support does not hold), then we could safely assume that the pair has turned into a bearish market. Just watch!

Kashif:
To me, upward move for AUDUSD is limited. AUD should be around resistance now.

Caution on Aud buys.

@ kashif thanks for your input. I have been trying to give you a reply since yesterday but the bot has been a serious pain in the ass!

I agree with your view (in the near term). I think you misunderstood me when I said 'prepare to go long'. I wasn't talking of anytime now; it could be next week.

After running round in circles with FX trading and loosing much money (in the past), I've found out long-term trading combined with sound Risk to Reward ratio to be my sort of 'holy grail', and that's why I only do long term trades. So when I was advising a buy, I'm looking more into the future: a weeks time or days.

It's obvious that the Aud-Usd has been in a straight uptrend and has hit some kind of resistance and correcting now. I'm only looking at the current downtrend of the Aud-Usd pair as a correction; and of course is capable of giving some nice pips to intra-day trends. I fully recognize the presence of a resistance and the current (near-time) down-trend, but purposely ignoring it and waiting for the up trend (larger trend) to continue.

Thanks man for your input hope you understand where I'm comming from 2. Good luck with your trading.

Kashif:
To me, upward move for AUDUSD is limited. AUD should be around resistance now.

Caution on Aud buys.

@ kashif thanks for your input. I have been trying to give you a reply since yesterday but the bot has been a serious pain in the ass!

I agree with your view (in the near term). I think you misunderstood me when I said 'prepare to go long'. I wasn't talking of anytime now; it could be next week.

After running round in circles with FX trading and loosing much money (in the past), I've found out long-term trading combined with sound Risk to Reward ratio to be my sort of 'holy grail', and that's why I only do long term trades. So when I was advising a buy, I'm looking more into the future: a weeks time or days.

It's obvious that the Aud-Usd has been in a straight uptrend and has hit some kind of resistance and correcting now. I'm only looking at the current downtrend of the Aud-Usd pair as a correction; and of course is capable of giving some nice pips to intra-day trends. I fully recognize the presence of a resistance and the current (near-time) down-trend, but purposely ignoring it and waiting for the up trend (larger trend) to continue.

Thanks man for your input hope you understand where I'm comming from 2. Good luck with your trading.

Kashif:
To me, upward move for AUDUSD is limited. AUD should be around resistance now.

Caution on Aud buys.

You are right man (i.e for the short term). I'm now kind of long term in my analysis and trade entries that's why I'm looking to the upside (in the long run i.e weeks), forgetting the near-term down trend that is going on now. The weekly candle of Aud-Usd was able to break and close nicely above 1.0258 initial strong resistance. So what i'm looking forward to is a retest of the broken 1.0258 level (as support), then enter a long trade; depending if it acts as a good support.

After my long moments of hustling and bustling, and running round in circles in the world of Fx, i've found long-term trading (rather than trading) to be my own 'holy grail'. I no longer take trades with risk:rewards less than 1:2. My trade target is usually anywhere above 120 pips and takes a day to weeks to close out.

Thanks for the input man. Your point of view is well received here. Goodluck bro.

Kashif:
To me, upward move for AUDUSD is limited. AUD should be around resistance now.

Caution on Aud buys.

You are right man (i.e for the short term). I'm now kind of long term in my analysis and trade entries that's why I'm looking to the upside (in the long run i.e weeks), forgetting the near-term down trend that is going on now. The weekly candle of Aud-Usd was able to break and close nicely above 1.0258 initial strong resistance. So what i'm looking forward to is a retest of the broken 1.0258 level (as support), then enter a long trade; depending if it acts as a good support.

After my long moments of hustling and bustling, and running round in circles in the world of Fx, i've found long-term trading (rather than trading) to be my own 'holy grail'. I no longer take trades with risk:rewards less than 1:2. My trade target is usually anywhere above 120 pips and takes a day to weeks to close out.

Thanks for the input man. Your point of view is well received here. Goodluck bro.

If you're watching the charts (Eur-Jpy, Aud-Usd and Aud-Jpy), you'd see that there is a present retracement going today. Hopefully, this is going to give us a good buy opportunity (pending formation of bullish price confirmation set-ups) to join in the strong uptrend.

I'd strongly advise against shorting (selling)any of the above mentioned pairs as the present price movements is only corrections to the strong upward movements, be patient (for a buy) and I guarantee you that would you'd be paid off big time in hundreds of pips (probably above 200 pips).

Amongst all the above mentioned pairs, I'm more interested in Eur-Jpy; reason being that there is a +600 pips room for upward movement (to the next/closest resistance on the weekly chart). Should we get the buy signal (after this present retracement) that I we are seeking, we would be looking at big profits in return; yes all of the 600 pips if you trail the movement efficiently.

Attached in the chart below is a daily chart of Eur-Jpy. Look to buy on bullish price action formations on the support area I've marked out on the chart. Wish you luck on this.

The silver trade has actually risen up to 92 pips before I could post this. Here are the charts:

Nice results there @meshpips. Keep it comming bro.

For some funny reasons (which I don't know till now) I was totally locked out of the forum for the whole of last trading week. The strange aspect is that I never , made a post before I was banned: if i did, then I'd say it's the usual nuissance of the bot. I just came to this thread on a good day and was told I had lost my forum posting priviledges, hmnn!

Well, the whole of last week was a very good one with a lot of lucrative positions to take. There was massive upside movements oweing to the breakup of significant resistances on Aud-Usd, Eur-Jpy and Nzd-Usd. If you followed my market over view of last sunday, your eyes would have been on those pairs and you would have had a slice of the cake.

I entered 2 perfect trade positions that I wanted posting here for all to take, but then i was banned! The pairs were Gold and Silver. I closed Gold with a 180 pips of profit and silver is moving nicely into its TP 0f 140 pips. That would be a nice 320 pips from those two pairs. The two positions were on a risk:reward of 1:2 - I don't take anything less nowadays.

The chart of the still running silver trade and closed history of Gold is attached in my post below.

Nb: I took the positions with a very small lot size of 0.01 (i.e 10 cents = 1 pip). I did that cos the account is a new managed account, and with a new broker. Watch out for my today's market overview. have a nice Sunday!!

Aud-Usd chart is below

JAZES:
I am going short big time on EU at the break of 1.4020. Come join me if u agree with me.
Cheers

Be careful with that man! The U pair is in a strong uptrend on both the daily and weekly. Any bearish moves you see is just a cool off from the large upward moves. It's better you look out for bullish confirmations at the said 1.4020 to re-enter a buy. It would do you much more good, the fear (and respect) of the trend is the begining of wisdom . just my opinion.

blackgucci:
@big icon
welcome back

Thanks man. I was gone cos skul work was damn 2 stressful. Although I've been trying to make posts sometime in the past but the bot kept blocking me. What's up with your trading? BTW have you used (or know any one who's used) FXDD broker? I want to know how reliable they are,