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Agriculture › Re: Nigeria: TELA Maize: IAR Determined To Ensure Food Security With Variety Crops by Bodex2000(m): 6:09am On Nov 29, 2024
GreyWolf01:
So why can't seeds from the harvested TELA be replanted?

If they are so great and sustainable, one should be able to replant, no?

GMO's are a dangerous.


Make of this what you will.
They can be replanted. They just won't yield as much as the first harvest due to unfavourable recessive genes gaining expression.

Hybrid plants and animals behave that way.
I am also wary of the GMO, but I know they are usually tested for all kinds of stuff that natural seeds don't get tested for. Apart from any sinister agenda, GMO is usually as safe as natural seeds.
Agriculture › Re: 500k Per Month: Analysis Of Estimated Costs And Profit Of 100 Broilers by Bodex2000(op): 8:54pm On Nov 28, 2024
jflower06:
There is no way 10 feeders will serve 100 birds. Unless you want serious competition which will lead to bullying.
If the marketing is not well planned, you may have to eat some by yourself because lots of people reared the birds they need on their own at their backyards
Tah. 10 birds per feeder is more than enough sef. One rectangular feeder takes up to 12 birds at once.

Also, this analysis was made with Lagos in mind. A 25 million population of People who don't always have backyard spaces or time. I mentioned the marketing issue in the initial post and I'm sure buyers will fall over themselves to buy a 4kg live broiler at #16,500
Agriculture › Re: Notorious Fish Business Scammer Wanted In Abuja by Bodex2000(m): 7:02pm On Nov 28, 2024
Celestialsword:
The day you stop trusting human being especially in business deals is when you are considered MATURED
Do you mean that maybe all the people buying foodstuff from Shariff84 may not be MATURED?
Agriculture › 500k Per Month: Analysis Of Estimated Costs And Profit Of 100 Broilers by Bodex2000(op):
Hello, How una dey here?

Christmas is approaching, and I have been seeing people advertising one broiler for 20 to 25k. Of course, as an entrepreneurially inclined person, I naturally want to know the costs involved. Luckily, I don't have to write a whole business plan to know this. Come along if you want to know how lucrative broiler production is.

Disclaimer: Prices vary. This analysis is based on prices obtainable in Lagos.


These two threads have something related

https://www.nairaland.com/7653782/broiler-business-bad-business

https://www.nairaland.com/5915011/race-poultry-broiler-rearing-beginner

Chart from https://www.poultryfarmguide.com/blog/broiler-feeding-chart-and-weight-chart-top-performance/

Your contributions will be needed to make this analysis more accurate. So, contributions are welcome.

Let's go!


Apart from land and housing, 100 broilers will need the following:

10 feeders..............#20,000

5 medium drinkers should be enough.......... #10,000

Charcoal stove...........#3,500

Weighing scale.........#15,000

Shovel......#8,000

Rechargeable lightbulb......#3,000


Wood shavings & sawdust ( I used 3½ bags last time out).........#8,000

Charcoal: 1 bag maximum.......#6,000

Drugs: Glucose, antistress, anti-cocci, CRD, Tylosin, enthrofloxacin, multivitamins, broad spectrum antibiotics, & calcium supplements if possible. You will not use all in a set, but you need to have these drugs in your arsenal...........#23,000

Vaccines: Lasota 2x, Gumboro & Infectious bronchitis if possible. ........#7,000


105 Day old chicks to account for ~5% mortality............#105,000

Sub total: #195,500

FEED:

Starter: weeks 1 to 4 — 2.2kg consumed per bird.
2.2kg x 105 = 231kg (three mortalities here)
231kg = 9.24 ~ 9 bags

9 x #26,000 = #234,000


Grower: Week 5 — 1.22kg consumed per bird.
1.22 x 102 = 125kg (two mortalities here)
125kg = 5 bags

5 x #25,000 = #125,000
You don't necessarily need to use grower though

Finisher: week 6 to 8 — 4.72kg eaten per bird
4.72 x 100 = 472 kg
472kg ~ 19 bags

19 x #26,000 = #494,000

Feed total = #853,000

Most farmers will not keep them to 8 weeks and it gives a better profit that way. However, Christmas is an exception. People will pay for big chicken during christmas so

TOTAL costs: #1,048,500


By the time you feed broiler this way, it will easily weigh 4kg in two months. With all the shege involved and Lagos high costs, it is easy for them to put the price at 20k. It will fetch hooge profit that way.

But let me use a more reasonable wholesale frozen food price instead.

A 4kg bird should yield more than 3.5kg carcass.

1kg of frozen chicken is now #5200 in my area, but assume you're selling to the seller at #4,600 per kg.

#4,600 x 3.5kg = #16,100 per bird

#16,100 x 100 = #1,610,000 sales

#1,610,000
-
#1,048,500

=
#561,500 Profit in two months and the next batch will be free of the fixed costs.

What could possibly go wrong? A lot grin but na who get the capacity. Pros.

Imagine scaling it shocked


Broiler production needs a lot of money in a short time but it also produces a lot of money in that short time. The disadvantage compared to layers is that the market is not always available compared to eggs.

Some offtakers fit whyne you ehn.

This analysis may not be 100% accurate, please note. I just did my best to project based on experience.

Agriculture › Re: Analysis Of Egg Production With 100 Layers by Bodex2000(op): 3:33pm On Nov 28, 2024
jidestroud:
@epainos
Spot on analysis.

My honest opinion (Personal ooo) to all newbies, it's a very volatile sector right now, and a very dangerous terrain at that. Thread careful.
True. Layers should be left for the professionals for now. Broilers are fair game though. I will run a cost analysis on them next
Agriculture › Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Bodex2000(m): 3:28pm On Nov 28, 2024
jidestroud:
But mehn, I dey scout for eggs like gulder ultimate search. angry. I tried restricting then to a certain area to make it easy, but chickens will be chickens angry angry angry.

Moreover, my Ugu plants GONE! Waterleaves, GONE!! Bitter leaves, ALL GONE!!!! cry cry cry
Hahaha vegetarian layers. The egg yolk will be so so golden in colour and their faeces odour will be reduced. Watch out for snakes though
Agriculture › Re: Notorious Fish Business Scammer Wanted In Abuja by Bodex2000(m): 2:06pm On Nov 28, 2024
Celestialsword:
Why would you send money to someone unknown to you whom you have not done any business with, the person that referred you to him might be an accomplice.
Don't blame the victim. Why can't we have trustworthy people too? Is this how we want to keep breeding people with zero morals in this country?
Agriculture › Re: Analysis Of Egg Production With 100 Layers by Bodex2000(op): 1:34pm On Nov 28, 2024
New version

I will still be going out to monitor the fluctuation in feed prices. There is a feedmill near me.

battery cage with feeders and drinkers = #220,000.


Charcoal 2½ bags = #15,000

Debeaking = Manually ~ #0.00

Price of Isa Brown DOC: 1200 × 100 = #120,000
(Broiler DOC has crashed to 750 today, btw)

Feed for week 1 to 4: 1.5kg × 100 = 150kg
150 kg = 6 bags
6 bags × 27,500 = #165,000


Feed for week 5 to 8: 1.6kg × 100 = 160kg
160kg ~ 7 bags
7 bags × 27,500 = #192,500


Feed for week 9 to 16: 4kg × 100 = 400kg
400kg = 16 bags
16 bags × 23,500 = #376,000

Feed for week 17 to 20: 2kg × 100 = 200kg
200kg = 8 bags
8 bags × 23,500 = #188,000

Vaccines #30,000
Drugs #30,000


Costs before laying #1,336,500

Feed for laying period = 120g × 100 × 365 = 4,380kg
4380kg = 175 bags
175 bags × 20,500 = #3,587,500



Laying at 85% for 50 weeks = 85eggs × 350 days
29,750 eggs = 991 crates


991 crates × 5700 = 5,648,700


94 Spent layers × 6000 = 564,000


Manure sales = 300,000


Sum of sales = 6,512,700


Sum of costs = 4,924,000


Profit = 1,588,700

Profit: You will get your initial investment back plus additional #1,588,700 in 1½ years.



If each cycle lasts 1 year and 5 months,

Then profit per month is #93,452.

Initial spending is #1,336,500 before the birds start fending for themselves.


Good profit if you have land and housing already. If not, start with at least 400 birds.


You can also check jidestroud thread
https://www.nairaland.com/7957008/400-layer-birds-start-up-episode for more info
Agriculture › Re: Analysis Of Egg Production With 100 Layers by Bodex2000(op): 11:01am On Nov 28, 2024
theFarmsChief:
As you humbly requested for the cost and benefit analysis of 100 Pullet from day old.The information is as below:
Cost of 100 day old pullet presently is ₦1100 *100=₦110,000
Feeding :Wk1 - Wk3 (Super Chick Starter) 0.4kgof feed consumed * 3 = 40kg/25kg = 1.6 bags * ₦18500 ( price per bag) = ₦29,600
Feeding: WK 4 - 6 ( Chicks Mash), 0.7kg per bird * 100 = 70kg/25kg = 2.8 bags * ₦18500 = ₦51,800
Feeding: WK 7 - 9 ( Chicks Mash) 1.1kg of feed per bird * 100 = 110kg /25kg = 4.4 bags * ₦18,500 = ₦81,400
Feeding: WK 10 - 16 ( Grower Mash),3.3kg of feed per bird * 100 = 330kg /25kg = 13.2 bags * ₦18500 = ₦244,200
Feeding: WK 17 - 18 (Prelay), 1.1kg per bird * 100 = 110 kg /25kg = 4.4 bags * ₦18500 = ₦81400
Feeding: WK 18 - 20 (Prelay) 7baga* ₦18500 = ₦129,500
%age Mortality (5%) = 5
Expected remaining number of birds = 95
Expected cost of vaccination and medication:₦50,000
Note: Under good management practices,your Isa Brown should start laying by wèek 18 - 20 at a very low percentage which I am NOT capturing under this analysis.
But by wèek 21, the birds should be able to start catering for their feeding and drugs with no hassle and at this stage , you should be expecting them (100 birds in quote) to be consuming on the average of 115gramme /bird = 115g/1000g = 0.115kg /bird * 100 = 11.5kg. Let assume that a bag of layer mash is still ₦18500, therefore divide the value by 25 and then multiply it by 11.5 as thus (₦18500/25) * 11.5 = ₦8510 as the cost of feeding them on daily basis.
And for the output which is egg, the egg production curve is between 50 - 80 % which will keep rising till week 65 and then reduce a bit to 80% around week 80 while between week 81 - 90, the average egg laying pattern will fall back to between 50-65 % and this is the ideal time for you to sell them off as spent birds.
Coming back to eggs ,let assume that the average laying percentage with good management practices is 83%, therefore, on the average, you are suppose to be making the following income first without any deductions (85/100) * 95 = 80 eggs /30= 2.6 crates * ₦5000 ( farm gate price per crate) on daily basis . Note: This price can be more in your own area and it is NOT CONSTANT .
The sales amount to ₦13300 daily minus cost of production ,that is cost of feed ₦8510 = ₦4790 * 30 = ₦143,700
There are still more calculations, but let me stop here as I have proved to you that it worths it. And by the time, you consider your cost of setting up the business aside the building and other fixes assets, you will know that ₦110,000 is GUARANTEED per month.
IN ALL HONESTY, THIS INFORMATION I HAVE SHARED WITH YOU US PURELY PRACTICAL AND WITH A KNOWLEDGE GATHERED WITH ADEQUATE RECORD KEEPING.
I understand and thank you. Truly, the feed didn't cost as much as I projected and it can be done on deep litter to cut costs. However, the margin I'm calculating here is not as healthy as the 110k. I will update soon.
Agriculture › Re: Analysis Of Egg Production With 100 Layers by Bodex2000(op): 10:57am On Nov 28, 2024
kayceecompany:
Beautiful analysis but I must tell you that this is just theory. My neighbour here has been into poultry and egg production for years. But, she stopped this year.

Do you know why??
The price of the layers feed has gone up and sadly, the quality has reduced.
Her 500 pullets use to lay 14-15 crates of egg per day. But now, after buying layers feed at 25k per bag, she gets 7-10 crates per day.
The culprit is the feed quality. Changing feeds helped a little but not much.
Those still in the business are just managing by selling one crate at almost 5k.

What a collosal losshuh? So, she quit and sold off the birds.
Wahala dey for Naija now, be very careful with your projections.
Thank you for contributing. Pls what was your neighbour's location and how old were her birds?

I just dug some more and I saw that layers feed is far cheaper than projected. One crate is close to 6k in my area as well.


I will drop an updated version with the new prices

Agriculture › Re: My One (6 Plots) Acre Farm Set-up by Bodex2000(m): 9:01am On Nov 28, 2024
jidestroud:
I will be sharing in full details soonest. All is well though. Las Las, dem go know say me sef get better craze. Me wey dey chop sacrifice for calabash for land wey i see? dem never see anything.

Nevertheless, work is moving on smoothly. Every stakeholder in the community as waded into the matter and pleaded with me not to escalate the issue beyond what has happened in these past weeks.
Boss, you sef full ground oo. You no gree for anybody as per our slogan this year. Na only soldiers I don hear say dem dey overpower omo onile.

Ina bayan ka. Ka ba su wuta wuta. Show dem shege.
Agriculture › Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Bodex2000(m): 8:22am On Nov 28, 2024
jidestroud:
Kept 30 birds back on the farm. That was the sole purpose in venturing into the project in the first place, not even now when egg consumption isn't for the poor again.
This is a good move for your house. I know say say your neighbours sef go follow chop grin

A lot of people are suffering from hidden hunger nowadays and major part of it is insufficient intake of animal protein. Two eggs per day will go a long way.
Agriculture › Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Bodex2000(m): 9:10pm On Nov 27, 2024
jidestroud:
grin grin grin
Sold off the birds. The temptation was just to sweet to resist. Lol
Each went for N5,500 jare. grin huh.
Wow, nice. You've proven a point though: it is still possible to rear layers on a low budget if you are skilled.

Hope you sha kept like 4 or 5 for household egg consumption grin : cheesy
Agriculture › Re: Commercial Layers Poultry Farmers Discussion Thread. by Bodex2000(m): 2:34pm On Nov 27, 2024
Why are battery cages so expensive? I saw one A-Type on Afrimash and they said 400k. It was 180k when I asked a local fabricator.
Agriculture › Re: 400 Layer Birds Start-up Episode by Bodex2000(m): 2:31pm On Nov 27, 2024
How are the birds? Did you later use battery cage or deep litter?
Business › Re: Sme Loan For Business Owner by Bodex2000(m): 2:13pm On Nov 27, 2024
daborich:
Do you need loan for your business and your business is in Ikorodu, Lagos state.

Age of business - 2 years and above
business must have physical premises/Office

loan Amount - 1 million to 20 million

With simple loan documentation

Whatsapp - 08028915516 for more details
Pls what is the funding source and interest rate?
Agriculture › Re: Lesgupnigeria: Notice To All Nairalanders On Agric Section by Bodex2000(m): 1:58pm On Nov 27, 2024
Lesgupnigeria:
Follow on www.facebook.com/waleagro for more updates on how to start a successful farm business in Nigeria
Is this program still ongoing? I can practice but I need a place where the threshold for entry is low enough for me. I got lots of passion but no capital yet.
Agriculture › Re: I Received #10,000,000 Out Of Nowhere. by Bodex2000(m): 10:10pm On Nov 26, 2024
shilenji:
I have workers that do the feeding and upkeep of the birds,but I make sure I'm there twice weekly to check progresses. We normally partition the feeds but somehow it's getting too much and the birds are getting lighter by the day, they 4months plus birds are just a little above 1kg at the moment but not all some still fall below that. In the course of 4 months about 200 birds have eaten approx 12 bags
Did you say that 200 broilers ate just 12 bags in 4 months?

If so, then you got what you put in. The logic with broilers is that they gain approximately 1kg of body weight for every 1.8 to 2kg of feed they consume. Even if you keep them for long.

12 bags x 25kg is 300kg in feed consumed.
300kg should give you a total weight of 150-170kg.
This boils down to 170kg ÷ 200 birds = 0.85kg per bird.


@op feed your broilers well. You still have one month to catch up. 200 birds should finish one bag of feed in 2½ days. Broilers eat a lot oo
Agriculture › Re: An Acre Of Land For Sale At Mowe by Bodex2000(m): 1:43pm On Nov 25, 2024
Goodjeez:
This almost smells like a good deal 1M is not bad if the place is not too far from the main town. The land looks like it'll have low pH though, or na my eyes? Buyer go come
Agriculture › Re: An Acre Of Land For Sale At Mowe by Bodex2000(m): 1:38pm On Nov 25, 2024
epainos:
Leave the man alone and allow him to market his property to potential buyers. It is not sustainable for you, but it may be for someone else. In fact, if you bring cassava up to my face, I will kick you out of my sight. That's me. But for you...its OK.

By the way....where is your "here"?

Whatever you sow, you will reap in multiple folds. Someone else will damage you too when you push such offer out.

As long as it is not a scam, let him be. It is a free place and a free market. If his price is too high, he will learn the hard way. If you do not change, you will have to learn the hard way too.
You are right
Agriculture › Re: Analysis Of Egg Production With 100 Layers by Bodex2000(op): 10:47pm On Nov 21, 2024
Thanks for the encouragement. If I'm able to start, I will start a thread here on NL.
Agriculture › Re: Analysis Of Egg Production With 100 Layers by Bodex2000(op): 5:15pm On Nov 15, 2024
theFarmsChief:
In all sincerity, you really tried with your break -down on the Cost Analysis Of Rearing 100 Pullet of Isa Brown from day old till market.
But considering these two factors that I noticed, the calculation and the cost feed and feeding are far too much.
1. The birds cumulatively for 4 weeks are NOT suppose to consume beyond 0.6kg *100 = 60kg /25 = 2.4kg bags, 5-8 weeks,1.2kg *100=120kg of feeds/25=4.8bags and so on and so forth
2. The cost that you quoted per bag of 25kg of feed is on the high side.
And in order to beat the price down, that is why , you need to contact us at theChiefsFarm via Whatsapp 09156563202 to put you through on quality poultry feed that is far cheaper than what you can image.
Thanks for your contribution. With a couple more submissions like yours, we can make it accurate. I just want to see if egg production is a comfortably profitable business or only profitable for those who know are aware of the business secrets.
Agriculture › Re: I Received #10,000,000 Out Of Nowhere. by Bodex2000(m): 5:24pm On Nov 13, 2024
Gideon20:
Starter is N19,000
Finisher is N18500
Transportation is N2000 per but less depending on the quantitiesN21,000 and N20,500 landing cost
Pls How much is your layer mash?
Agriculture › Re: Analysis Of Egg Production With 100 Layers by Bodex2000(op): 5:17pm On Nov 13, 2024
Duration of production cycle compared to profit shocked shocked huh

Certainly not advisable. From 400 and above may be worth it though
Agriculture › Re: Analysis Of Egg Production With 100 Layers by Bodex2000(op): 5:09pm On Nov 13, 2024
Agriculture › Analysis Of Egg Production With 100 Layers by Bodex2000(op): 5:05pm On Nov 13, 2024
I was looking for a cost analysis of 100 birds poultry but the one I saw was outdated, so this is a kinda update.

Let's go!



Price of Isa Brown DOC: 1000 × 100 = #100,000


Feed for week 1 to 4: 1.5kg × 100 = 150kg
150 kg = 6 bags
6 bags × 27,500 = #165,000


Feed for week 5 to 8: 1.6kg × 100 = 160kg
160kg ~ 7 bags
7 bags × 27,500 = #192,500


Feed for week 9 to 16: 4kg × 100 = 400kg
400kg = 16 bags
16 bags × 27,500 = #440,000

Feed for week 17 to 20: 2kg × 100 = 200kg
200kg = 8 bags
8 bags × 27,500 = #220,000

Vaccines #30,000
Drugs #30,000

Feed for laying period = 120g × 100 × 365 = 4,380kg
4380kg = 175 bags
175 bags × 27,500 = #4,812,500



Laying at 90% for 50 weeks = 90eggs × 350 days
28,000 eggs = 933 crates


1050 crates × 5900 = 6,195,000


94 Spent layers × 6000 = 564,000


Sum of sales = 6,759,000


Sum of costs = 5,990,000


Gross profit = 769,000


There are still costs involving brooding, battery cage (or nesting boxes in deep litter), feeders and drinkers.

I didn't include revenue from sales of poultry manure either. It'll probably be somewhere between 180,00 to #300,000.

Perhaps sales of poultry manure can offset the costs I didn't include.


Looking at the costs involved, it isn't worth it except you have a way to seriously reduce the cost of feed. You will have a sizable profit in that case. Otherwise, rearing broilers is better due to its fast turnover.
Agriculture › Re: I Received #10,000,000 Out Of Nowhere. by Bodex2000(m): 6:30pm On Nov 11, 2024
shilenji:
Good day guy.

As a new poultry farmer, poultry feed expenses wan kill me, I have about 200 broilers I am hoping to nuture until December but Feeding expenses too much. If I continue like this I would have to sell a Chicken 25000 to cover up for money spent and my profit won't still go far.

Senior eleyes(poultry farmers) in the house, please are there other feeding alternatives than buying 8 bags of Topfeed everymonth? A bag of Topfeed is currently 28k here. Please help.
You must have gotten it wrong somewhere. Your feed cost per bird ought to be around 5-6k. Also, don't overfeed. How old are your birds? How much do they weigh currently? How many bags have they eaten so far?
Education › Re: Is Animal Science A Good Course?? by Bodex2000(m): 11:33am On Nov 04, 2024
So many Ill-informed people on this thread. I am a graduate of Animal Science and I can tell you the obvious way is to start your business.

Imagine that even with this tough economy, you can start with 500K and have up to 3M in a year with poultry. Pay attention in class especially 400 & 500L, Write your business plan and you're good to go.
Agriculture › Re: Updated Price Of Grains And Location. by Bodex2000(m): 12:09pm On Feb 12, 2024
shariff84:
I dey background buzy doing business.lolx

Oloyin beans 80k
Drum beans 80k
Olotu beans 80k
Iron white beans 78k
Potasko beans 75k
Oloka 85k

Suyabeans 46k
Bambara nut 67k
Locust beans 45k
Millet 48k
Paddy rice 40k
Peal millet 48k

Dawa white 48k
Red dawa 48k
White maize 50k
Yellow maize 59k

Local rice 45k(50kg)
Local rice 90k(100kg)
Sunflower 50k
Tiger nut big seed 50k
Tiger nut small seed 47k
Date 1800/kg
Groundnut peeled 85k
Unpeeled Groundnut 20k

All in 100kg bag(26 rubber paint)

Due to high cost of gas, transport to south east is 6000 per bag.Transport to southwest is 3500.Abuja is 3000(madalla)
Pls how much is transport for local rice to Katsina?
Agriculture › Re: Do You Need A Perfect Rice Paddy Parboiling Machine? by Bodex2000(m): 2:46pm On Jun 26, 2023
garriguy:
7tons (140bags) is 2.4m for 5mm or 1.8 for 3mm
3tons (60bags) is 800k.

The bottom part would be 5mm thick in order to withstand the heating
What about 1 tonne? How much would it cost?
Agriculture › Re: English Name Of Some Local Crop. by Bodex2000(m): 3:52pm On Jun 24, 2023
Tatashe is not bell pepper. It is ata rodo/atarugbu that is bell pepper
Phones › Re: Itel A60 Is A Complete Waste Of Time And Money Here Is Why by Bodex2000(m): 9:30am On Mar 14, 2023
Op, you too dey exaggerate about Itel unreliability.

Itel stuff might be cheap, but they last long and their battery never disappoints too.
I have a P33 plus that I've been using since 2019. It fell inside a drum of water one day, but guess what? After turning it off quickly and sucking out the water, I left it to dry. Then I turned it on the next day.

This happened in April 2021 and the phone is still going on strong today.

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