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SAMBARRY:
there's a difference between correction and abusive behaviour for God sake.

I am not against correction but I'm 100 percent against abuse, oppression and intimidation. Moreover there are age appropriate ways of scolding and correction at the University level you don't tell young adults to kneel down. Do you think that will change them? Or do you think students in foreign countries don't misbehave? Of course they do but there are established correctional methods of correcting ,mentoring and moulding them to be decent and respectable young men and women. Little wonder why bullies ,toxic people, psychopaths, narcissists and people obsessed with controlling others full everywhere and in our work spaces. Everyone is struggling and trying to make money not to impact the lives of others or to help and be a positive influence but to oppress, subjugate,buy loyalty and weapon ize poverty. No wonder we have graduates everywhere with mental health issues, drug issues, cultist and lousy behaviour because they didn't have mentors and leaders as lecturers, they had bullies and oppressors.go to private university na druggies full there and all kinds of addicts including sex addicts, religious addicts, slow students etc.i don't even want to talk about the female students, let me no go there.

Anyway if you do that to my child I will sue you for physical,mental and psychological assault.correct my children If they misbehave but don't ever try anything like corporal punishment. He's a student not a prisoner.

So what would you have done in his case: let the children run away? How is it an intimidation to tell the students the consequences of their behaviours? Did he beat them? About asking if kneeling down will change them, well, let's see if they repeat the misbehaviour. Rather than castigate the lecturer, we should preach the fact that our children should not be amongst those who err. You should ask your child to stay off bad behaviours rather than threaten to sue a lecturer that scolds your child.

And this was worth your time? Do you mean you saw anything wrong in what the lecturer did? I'm sorry, only a skewed mind would see something wrong in what the lecturer did. You must be found worthy in learning and character to graduate from a higher institution. Higher institutions (private or public) are not for everyone. He said he promised them that they would not finish from that school if they were not obedient. That wasn't a threat. The university shouldn't be for disobedient children. If they were disobedient, which they were, he was even mild to have asked them to kneel. The other option would have been asking them to face the disciplinary outfit of the institution. The military is the epitome of discipline, the world over. You need to know that the discipline there or anywhere else rides on consequences for actions. Were they NDA students, they would have pooed on themselves for disobedience.

VeeBabs:
@Borijomi, you are already doing a good job as unappointed PR rep for the school. Expect an offer letter in a jiffy.

There are two clear issues in this matter, which you are failing differentiate

1. SOME CHILDREN WILFULLY DAMAGED SCHOOL PROPERTY. If those photos are authentic, someone must pay for them. The identities of the culprits is the main issue here.

2. THE SCHOOL REVEALED THE MISDEMEANOUR IN A MALICIOUS MANNER. Why wait so long to disclose the case? I have no problem with the charges, but waiting till so late before springing a surprise accusation is, to me, an effort to embarrass the parents and their wards.

The amount in question is not the main issue. I agree with you that the bill was inflated possibly to serve as a deterrent to such behaviour. But it is the timing that I consider unfair.

Besides, why make parents pay for a graduation party that ought to be optional?

Thanks for your comment; i honestly appreciate your objectivity. Everything i said is based on what i read from the documents posted by only one party (the complainant). Unfortunately, we may not hear from the other party here. But the parent is not proving to us that she wasn't informed earlier.
On "why pay for a graduation party that ought to be optional", we're saying the same thing: in as much as it was optional, and in as much as the child did not pay, the child shouldn't have gone to the party or any event associated with the payment. As simple as that.
I don't know how the school revealed the case other than from the letter posted by the school dated about 4 days after the act. On "why wait so late" the family could have been incommunicado. Perhaps the school called them and they failed to ignore. Anything could have happened; i bet we do not have the facts yet as this is one-sided. Commenting otherwise is somewhat prejudicial. But when you have your private property destroyed wantonly, trust me, you will want to get justice because it hurts.

CecyAdrian:
Seems like you are a rep from the school, welcome though but you came late to the Party, how so?

I actually wished i could be hired as the school's rep. If they did, the child won't get any good recommendation from the school. The child might even have to stay back for other punitive measures. My dad or mom wouldn't have done what the parents are doing. Rather, if established that i was involved in any way ( remotely or directly) i would serve additional punishment at the home front for disgracing the family and bringing their names into disrepute. Give your children proper training. @CecyAdrian: I could see that you're conciliatory to the evil act and that's why i fear for the future of this country. If a child could so destroy private properties, you could imagine what would be done to public properties.

DKM123:
Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Hey God! My ribs! I am officially tired of this nairaland. I can't, mhen!

So because she pays for her an expensive school, then she has no right to complain when she is being exploited. I swear, you no well!

My brother, what do you call exploitation? Coca cola 50cl is N100 in some corner shops; in some eateries, it is N150; in some hotels, it could go for N300. Is that exploitation?

Earthbound:
But there's usually caution fees added to the school fees incase of issues like this. If you have never damaged school property, you can lay claim to that money after graduation. Back in secondary school, 20k per term was the caution fee.



Also prom at Oriental? Really? Talk about misplaced priorities.

It's a matter of choice; a child goes to the village for holiday, another child goes to London. Affordability

CecyAdrian:
Is it right then?

Absolutely. Evil actions must not be encouraged. evil children become evil adults. Stop the dangerous tide

post=69393435:
You've said it all my sister.
Some people refuse to read and assimilate.
Thank you.

I read and assimilated, and here are my observations:

Clearly, the images show that the despicable act of vandalism was committed, and the students must have done this the day they completed their final year exam. Did I read you well when you said “mere renovation” required where such costly pieces of furniture have been destroyed? Do you know the cost of the furniture you’re seeing in the images? So a fellow parent could have referred to the destruction of such furniture shown in the images as “knocked wardrobes and door”. Please don’t pamper your child, and don’t’ ruin his life. Apparently, you couldn’t say your child was not involved, you are only saying they couldn’t prove it and that the money charged was too much. If I were the school, I probably would do more and even ensure the children don’t get good testimonials, references or recommendations from the school.

The article claims that the school waited till the day of graduation before serving such notices of vandalism on the parent. How then was she able to pay the vandalism fee before the day of graduation because paragraph 7 clearly shows that they were denied entry to school on the day of graduation because of N80,000 (for prom), not because of the N185,700? Paragraph 9 says a parent shows to Irukkanews “copies of the letter of vandalism and accompany [sic] pictures [which were] sent to her by the school. Were those documents given to the parent at the gate on graduation date? Did she pay at the gate that day (an evidence of payment date may clear this).
Meanwhile, the attached letter was dated 11th June and the letter indicates that vandalism happened on 7th June. The attached letter also shows that parents were to pay on or before 22nd of June. Could it be that the parent actually got the letter earlier and paid the vandalism fee earlier but only decided to complain on the day of graduation which must have happened between 9th and 14th July (which is the time most schools did graduations and prom) because the child wasn’t allowed in.

On the cost of prom, the school decides what to charge for it. You don’t expect to have a buffet at Oriental hotel for N10,000. Did you expect them to charge N8,000? Your child has actually graduated the day he finished his exams, prom or no prom, and didn’t need to participate in any ceremony. You probably should have stayed away from any other event since you didn’t pay for such.

The school we enroll our children in is our choice. Who wouldn’t go for lunch or dinner in Oriental hotel if they could afford it? If I have chosen to take my children to the eatery around my house for dinner I wouldn’t blame, abuse, envy or habour animosity or jealousy towards another man that took his own children to Oriental, Protea or Sheraton. Choice is it.

UncleSnr:
The school took advantage of the situation. I remember when I was in the Seminary, the whole class was suspended for the action of a few students, the reason was that we were all accomplice to the crime (we are responsible for the actions of others).
Also, when my younger sister was in secondary school, if you are caught outside the school without a signed exeat card, you are to bring close to (if not more) 30blocks and 2 bags of cement.

It is called deterrent.

CecyAdrian:
I don't get. So the school can bill anything they feel like because the child was involved. Did you read the part where it said the kid checked out of the hostel without any issue? How come they are pinning these damages on them without prior notice. What if some other set of students did the damage?

The mother is only asking the school to prove it, not that the child never did it. I hope the child would not set his mom's vehicle ablaze one day out of annoyance. The mom knows the kind of child she has. And the mom lies too. I challenge the mom to post a copy of when she paid the 187,500 for you to know she was not notified on graduation day as claimed. Checks revealed graduation day was 14th July

post=69389609:
............she also wondered why an astronomical sum of N1,300,000 should be paid by the students for a mere renovation of a knocked, wardrobe and door, even if the damage was actually committed by their wards.


HABA!!

Excuse me!!! the pictures you posted say it all except that the parent's sense of judgement is skewed. How could you say fixing this requires this mere renovation. Don't be an "ota aje" (enemy of good things).

post=69393090:
The woman claims her son was checked out of the school without issue after his exams but was called few days after to notify her of the said damage. What if her son was not among thos who carried out the crime. Because If you commit this kind of crime in boarding school, they notify your parents and are asked to pay before checking out of the school. 


CecyAdrian, kindly permit us to borrow your post to reply this bros here.
You've helped us to type what we wanted to.
Thank you.

If they did it without anybody knowing, investigations would have to be done which might have taken some days. How about "if you commit this kind of crime in boarding school, they notify your parents and are asked to pay before" graduation?

I read this piece with keen interest and have some observations and objections.

Clearly, the images show that the despicable act of vandalism was committed, and the students must have done this the day they completed their final year exam. Did I read you well when you said “mere renovation” required where such costly pieces of furniture have been destroyed? Do you know the cost of the furniture you’re seeing in the images? So a fellow parent could have referred to the destruction of such furniture shown in the images as “knocked wardrobes and door”. Please don’t pamper your child, and don’t’ ruin his life. Apparently, you couldn’t say your child was not involved, you are only saying they couldn’t prove it and that the money charged was too much. If I were the school, I probably would do more and even ensure the children don’t get good testimonials, references or recommendations from the school.

The article claims that the school waited till the day of graduation before serving such notices of vandalism on the parent. How then was she able to pay the vandalism fee before the day of graduation because paragraph 7 clearly shows that they were denied entry to school on the day of graduation because of N80,000 (for prom), not because of the N185,700? Paragraph 9 says a parent shows to Irukkanews “copies of the letter of vandalism and accompany [sic] pictures [which were] sent to her by the school. Were those documents given to the parent at the gate on graduation date? Did she pay at the gate that day (an evidence of payment date may clear this).
Meanwhile, the attached letter was dated 11th June and the letter indicates that vandalism happened on 7th June. The attached letter also shows that parents were to pay on or before 22nd of June. Could it be that the parent actually got the letter earlier and paid the vandalism fee earlier but only decided to complain on the day of graduation which must have happened between 9th and 14th July (which is the time most schools did graduations and prom) because the child wasn’t allowed in.

On the cost of prom, the school decides what to charge for it. You don’t expect to have a buffet at Oriental hotel for N10,000. Did you expect them to charge N8,000? Your child has actually graduated the day he finished his exams, prom or no prom, and didn’t need to participate in any ceremony. You probably should have stayed away from any other event since you didn’t pay for such.

The school we enroll our children in is our choice. Who wouldn’t go for lunch or dinner in Oriental hotel if they could afford it? If I have chosen to take my children to the eatery around my house for dinner I wouldn’t blame, abuse, envy or habour animosity or jealousy towards another man that took his own children to Oriental, Protea or Sheraton. Choice is it.