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YorubaStinks:
Malivelyhood is stinky rich to shade a little girl Tonto Dike

delman88:
You just sick

BakireBulmaker:
Congratulations to the new Oba of Benin.

Wishing him a most successful reign on the throne.

That said, I have noticed that quite a number of Binis have been in a state of hysteria since the beginning of final coronation activities earlier in the week which has eventually climaxed in the coronation of the new Oba today.

I find it difficult to come to terms with the fact that Binis cannot celebrate their Oba and tradition without reference to Yorubas albeit rudely/derogatorily.

Since the beginning of the week, I have come across several stupiddd/senseless posts from Binis which I couldnt properly respond to because of time.

Hence, I have decided to create this thread and address all such posts with the aim of bringing back their posters from their current state of delusion/hysteria to reality vis-a-vis Yoruba/Benin history.


Thank you.






Late Oba Erediauwa visited late Oba Sijuade shortly after he (Oba Erediauwa) ascended the throne. I dont think Oba Sijuade ever returned the visit.

The fact that the new Ooni is a young, free-minded,outgoing, wealthy entrepreneur and in-law of the Binis does not take anything away from the fact that his throne predated that of the Binis.

I'd have been surprised if he didnt attend the event.

Ekaladerhan bulllshiiit will forever remain a one-sided story told by the Binis.

The only 2-sided story told by both Yorubas and Binis is that Oduduwa sent Oranmiyan his son to rule Bini and establish a dynasty which has endured till date.

From your post, we can also infer that the Emir of Kano is also inferior to the Oba of Benin. What rubbish!

In essence, your post gives you out a semi-literate folk.

As regards stealing of artifacts, the Oonis current wife's forefather migrated to Benin from Ife to teach the Binis artistry. Fact!

fatiaforreal:
Educate yourself.
Read researched findings, not all those cock and bull stories you tell your people under tree, under the influence of palmwine or ogoro in Sakpomba or Uselu

Vorpal:
I don't believe that stupid story, however there is something of peculiar interest that led credence to that what you stated.


Ewuare was known to abolish the selection of kings and made it to be on a first son basis and reformed other things in the benin empire. I then noticed that other king ship in the yoruba States(where they Ewuare conquered at one time) still practise selection of a king among princes. But interestingly Ewuare sent the chiefs who selected kings in his domain to substitute other kingdoms he had conquered making who he wanted Prince in those places be kings.

It then makes sense that most kings in the west use the "Oba" title. Also if you look at the coronation of owo king, it is almost as exactly as the Benins. And to lend credence to the conquering of Benin empire, little wonder is it that benin republic also bears benin as a name too even though pronounced differently.

If I were yoruba, I will honestly accept Benin as the progenitors as yoruba.

However, I am ijebu, and my king says we are from Sudan, and certain links has existed to prove that. Based on language we have no ties to yoruba and we only adopted "oba* around the 18th century after which the British had shaken up Western Nigeria abit.

I honestly believe the Benins are progenitors to the yorubas.

ogbonti:
Ooni can be anyone from any ruling house or whatever, the Oba is always the first son of the previous Oba, call that supremacy of the lineage.. hmmm Afonjas, to be a King is not about f....king someone else's wife oooo, please respect superior tradition, my 2 kobo

fatiaforreal:
Long live the king from Ife!
This write up demonstrates the level of ignorance of Bini nairaland historians. Let me educate you.
1) Ife existed for thousands of years before Oduduwa. Ife had had rulers before Oduduwa. From Ajalorun to Oromakin through Kutukutu Obaugbo to Obatala. The kingdom was known as Ugbo, the second stage of Ife after flood devastated the First Ife on the bank of river Niger. Ugbo people who were dissatisfied by oduduwa's arrival moved out to found a new kingdom, Ugbo Kingdom in Igbokoda Ondo state. They also set up a camp in Okeigbo from where they raided Ife ceaselessly until their secrets were bursted by Moremi(another history). This kingdom is still in existence to tell its history.
Ekalerdahan wandered into the bush and probably ended up in the belly of the leopard. He had no connection with the Great Oduduwa.
2) One of the most ancient civilizations, older than Egypt and Arabia, existed on the bank of river Niger from which most tribes and languages in Africa evolved. According to the history of Ugbo kingdom, they migrated from there to present Ife after devastation by flood, they called it First Ife. The Yorubas have an account of First Ife that was a cradle of civilization known as Ife Oodaiye that was devastated by flood. The Nupe people have a history of an ancient civilization, not in Bida, but on the bank of river Niger that was known as Nyuife that was corrupted to Nupe. Scientific research and genetic mappings have also revealed that the same area was where many tribes and languages evolved from, Nyuife or Ile Ife was a cradle of civilization. This logical, empirical, and scientific based summation is completely at variance with the Ekalerdahan/Oduduwa hallucinations of our Bini brothers.
3) Take it or leave it, Nupe, Nyuife, Ife Oodaiye is where we all came from, Nupe, Yoruba, Igala, Binis etc. Upon your arrival in Benin, you met the Ijaws already on ground. This explains why Ijaws have the oldest quarters in Benin, Uzama(from Ijaw ama, meaning Ijaw land). Jacob Egarevba history of Benin agrees with this.
4) The funny writer made number of false claims. One of them being Benin Origin of Sango. This is the height of ignorance and shameless! The name is from Nupe, where we all came from, which explains the common words and closeness of our languages.
Honestly, to those who know, your write up is an advertisement of ignorance and desperation to hide the identity of your ruler.
5) Lastly, I hope the ground rent has been paid? Every Oba of Benin paid it. That is what Ekiopagha Treaty is all about. It is the treaty that clearly demonstrates the Oba does not own the land because he's an Ife prince

LordAdam:
@YourNemesis, @2dugged

The Yorubas are known for revisionist history. It is their trademark. Their high degree of literacy just smolders this tendency in a big way.

Ife kingdom is a rag compared to the old bini empire.

The only Yoruba monarchy that rivals the bini empire is the Oyo empire. And even in its height refrained from marching east to sack the Bini empire despite extending to present day Benin (the country) at some point.

That the Bini ethnicity is not at par to the Yoruba ethnicity does not change anything.

Macedonia once produced the finest general the world has ever known, and conqueror of the known world at his time--Alexander the Great. Macedonia is pretty insignificant in the present time. That does not erase the fact that the Middle East, Europe, and Asia once bowed to that little kingdom.

Same can be said about the Romans. Or the Nubians (Blacks in present day Sudan) setting the foundation for the Ancient Egyptian empire only to be schemed out at some point.

The Portuguese parleyed with the Bini more than they did with the Ife people. Present day Bini reach extends to the edge of the River Niger. The entire old Mid-West region and part of the old Eastern region have Bini blood flowing through them.

That Oduduwa was a Bini prince is a plausible theory.

But that is what it is--a theory. Because we can never really be sure.

However, to insinuate that the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba king is abominable, bordering on heresy for the strongly religious of the native Bini religion.

The Yorubas and Binis were neighbors. Of course, some elements would have robbed off. But make no mistake. NO YORUBA KINGDOM COULD HAVE PLACED A FOOT ON THE OLD BINI KINGDOM.

The Ovie of Ozoro secures his mandate from the Oba of Benin. So, you could rightly say he is a Bini king, despite him being a full-bred Isoko.

But the Oba of Benin does not secure his mandate from or fall under the tutelage of the Ooni of Ife like other Yoruba kings.

It's a good thing the Binis aren't letting you guys change history.

You lots are despicable. Utterly disappointing. Probably insane.

If the late Ooni of Ife had tried to insinuate that the Oba of Bini was lower than him in the 16th century, the Oba would have beheaded him, plucked out the eyes of his sons, sack his kingdom and hand it over to the Alaafin of Oyo as a gift.

He is (or rather was) lucky, we are in modern times, and anyone can make absurd claims.

-Lord

gorgeousfm:
Why are you flooding every thread with your story. I did History in secondary school. My only concern is why the Edo kings adopted the title Oba. And why my colleague who is from Edo state bears Ayodeji Adewale Peters.

I am yet to see any omo Yoruba bearing Osahon Asemota, or Osaretin except it is adopted through marriage.

Goodluck.

cc: verygudbadguy

YourNemesis:
Stupid, he was invited and he came there. same as Sultan of Sokoto, Obi of Onitsha, Various northern Emirs etc.
You think the Oonirisha has time for you your silly online squabbles...lol
Inferiority complex is disturbing Binis. A tribe of less than 1.5 Million people..

2dugged:
wait o,so the famous bronze casters learnt from yorubas? like I rightly said, you will stoop low and claim any thing, go to Igun street and say that, infact where are your so called bronze casters today, but come to Benin and see for yourself, Andy you and your people can keep believing that one man fell from the sky with a chicken and then the chicken use its feet to scatter the loamy soil the sky man brought with him from heaven and formed the earth, hehehehe, I choose not to argue again

YourNemesis:
Ohhh so Ekalederhan is not Oduduwa anymore... He is now His grand father?
LMAO

Oba in Yoruba simply means King... no other meaning. Apparently, form your explanation Oba in Benin means Shining....Hilarious.
Ogisos of bini city state were not empire builders, they were rulers of little significance until The rulership of Benin got an injection of Yoruba blood into their royalty, after which Benin became an empire.

Ife was a more advanced polity than Igodomigodo.
*Paved roads of Ife predates that of Benin
* Yoruba (Of the Ife dialect) was the previous language of the Benin court
* Ife bronze heads predates that of Benin by carbon dating, Infact Benin bronze casting was on knowledge from Ife teachers
* Ife attained the Bronze Age before 1170, (Thurstan Shaw 1977). Benin attained it during the reign of Oguola about 1400.

However, could someone coming from a far less civilized society establish a magnificent kingdom in a much more civilized polity? Archaeological evidence about the Ogiso period had not shown any magnificent civilization. From 1472 when the Portuguese explorers first reached the coast of the Benin River or the Bight of Benin, until 1960 when Nigerians became independent from colonial rule, no single foreign historian, or anthropologist, sociologist, traveler, missionary etc ever mentioned Oduduwa as being Ekaladerhan. It is pertinent to show now that apart from the Isekiri who were visited by the Portuguese between 1472 – 1486, the Binis were the first to be visited by the Europeans in Present day Nigeria.
The first European visited Benin by 1486 long, long before Ife. How come almost all the colonial officers favour the story that the Bini Dynasty originated from Ife or in few instances from Oyo? Could the European writers be more biased towards the Ifes they knew very little, than Benin they were frequenting much more often? From the evidence of all the reporters it is clear that the Ikaladerhan-Oduduwa story is fiction.


Perhaps there are some written records between 1472 – 1960 purporting that Ikaladerhan was Oduduwa, the world will be glad to see such records. None of the writers have even inferred in their write-ups that Oduduwa or even the founder of any of the Ife or Oyo dynasties had a Bini father.

Orikinla:
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Oduduwa came from the Benin Kingdom.

back2sender:
Yes our Oba cannot do anyhow because he carries our trust, tradition, heritage and we Edos will die to defend our king because he is above chop chop egunje people Oba that abounds in Nigeria, OBAs that collect thier own share of dollars from the ineffectual baboon that run aground our economy.
My Oba cannot beg any man born of a woman or spirit or stoop low.
The OBA of Benin is the only n true OBA others are oba

ENDTIMEgist:
Haha, how is it a secret. So if a board meeting is done at your company and you are chosen as the new MD, won't workers know before the official announcement. Or don't you know your governor elect before swearing in ceremony ?

Your king just stood there before going to bow to my king and he stood there like a commoner, and held his stick of office .
.BornStunner1 we don shame dem. Haha
Proud Edo Boy, Benin in my blood

lailo:
Pls enlighten me bro.Why do d king and wives use to cover their nose?

mobaking:
Keep quiet,his father was in ile-ife to pay a courtesy visit to Ooni Adesoji Aderemi after ascending the throne in 1979.

Omeny:
I have be searching for u guys. Una go wait for us in Ife tire ooo. After-all, Ooni is already in Benin. After today's coronation,Oba of Benin remains in the palace. Watch out.

Omeny:
Our history neighbours will not come read this one nau ooo.
They said they came from the sky and several other stories I wondered.
They should simply and quietly trace ur source to Benin,there lies the truth of their origin.

bcomputer101:
A yoruba man ruling the great Edo people.



God bless the new King and his queens.
son of ODUDUWA

ENDTIMEgist:
So you saying he conquered is a great fat lie, you can't conquer and leave?
Or Oduduwa conquer Ife and left also.
So you are if you conquer a place today you would leave your son of less than 10 years to rule The place?.
Him leaving the place means he never loved the place he was asked to rule.
@BornStunner1 I lie

fatiaforreal:
I will ignore your uncultured manners. We need intellectual cum historical contributions. Tell us the history of the bonus.

fatiaforreal:
You guys got it wrong!
Ooni has visited every kingdom he considers Oodua kingdom, from Oyo, Ila Orangun, Egba, Lagos, even those in diaspora. Benin kingdom is not an exception.
I hope the Oba has paid the ground rent to Ogiamen, that's what Ekiopagha Treaty is all about. They might have hidden that from you. You guys know little.
Oba's ancestors except Ovorawen were all buried in Ife, take it or leave it.