₦airaland Forum

mulattoclaroo:
shut up. You have no tie with the Binis. I reject it in Jesus name. Stay in your ewedu republic. We dont want you guys close to us. God forbid.

Lovegisty:
Orisirisi.... Receive Christ Today!!!

mulattoclaroo:
shut your gutter. A yoruba man masquerading as a. Igbo man. I'll train my kids to see yorubas as what I deem necessary.

Monkeydeychop:
Have we argued on YouTube before?

JideAmuGiaka:
Of all the gifts, it is this useless Oduduwa head you gave the man, is the U.S ambassador a babalawo.

Ojukwubucket:
EZIOKWU O... NA TRUE, MY BROTHER. WE HAVE LEARNT OUR LESSONS

sod09:
ibadan and stupidity

AreaFada2:
Ise!



All relatives of mine who married Igbo people have all succeeded in life.

Igbo people trusted the wrong people, those who talk from both sides of their mouth.

hilaomo:
Tribal e-war gearing up!!!

Davash222:
You can't help but applaud this tribe.

opal4real:
I hail my Ovioba! I've decided to ignore them too. Since Yoruba( a word that came into existence after the Kiriji war) is the center of creation and origin of man. Then make we siddon dey clap for them.

Olu317:
I am odua's lineage.

opal4real:
Read and educate yourself. Internet is very cheap, so engage yourself in some reading exercise

AreaFada2:
So in your micro-cephalic brain, a UK trained former diplomat is an illiterate while the product of cramming, pamphlet buying, cultist den & lecturer settling (aka failed education system) like you is a scholar. Clap for yourself. That alone shows that your attempt at intellectualism, quoting various mushroom publications, is an exercise in futility. Without merit whatsoever.

In your mind, your most powerful Kingdom (Oyo) will just as a matter of picnic come to Otun in Ekiti to plant trees & demarcate territory. Hahaaha! It shows you only go round quoting mostly ethno-centric books that pander to your ego.

Benin can never want anything from Yoruba land. We made that clear by democratically leaving South West barely 3 years after independence. Because we always knew that the contraption called Nigeria was, is and remains a massive aberration. That is why we never deliberately signed any treaty to cede power to the British or anybody. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Water will gradually find its level.

The war the Ijebus fought, important to them for sure and a rare thing, it was of little consequence to the amalgamation of Nigeria.

To the point that even your kinsman Ola Rotimi spurned it and wrote about Ononramwen N'ogbaisi instead. A mere footnote in history is Ijebu fight.

We do not even need to attach to former slave diaspora for attention. We never sold ourselves into slavery.

So you really believe Ogedengbe if truly in a position of strength will just be persuaded by begging to attack Benin. Oh boy, your hero Ogedengbe simply chickened out like the cowards that abound in your area when realised the herculean task ahead of him. Forget that thing. Pure bobos.

Nothing you can about The Great Benin Empire. It is part of extra-ordinary human heritage and intelligence in governance, warfare, arts, culture, civilisation, organisation and more thought impossible for a black man.

As for our women, in life it is good to know your worth. We already did centuries ago by selling no slaves. If a woman must ply the oldest profession on earth, I hundred times prefer a woman hawking her wares for hard currency in international league than for a plate of Amala & ewedu bought by for her by an agbero. If you must eat frog, eat a fat one with plenty of meat. Even the most successful Nigerian footballers sold their kills in the foreign leagues: Okocha, Kanu, Obafemi Martins, Mikael, Peter Odemwingie, late Keshi & Yekini, etc.

Back in local league, the Benin chic called Itohan (with hustle names Wuraola & Zainab) still got your most eligible monarch, Ooni of Ife as hubby. So whatever our women have seem quite in demand. Therefore the joke is on you.

That Benin was betrayed by the relatives of Afonja, mostly likely behind the back of the Benin Prince that is Olu of Warri, should not surprise anyone. After all they routinely betray themselves.

Next time the BBC or any other foreign channel is extolling the glorious feats of ancient Benin Empire, you can smash your TV, your gen or set the your house ablaze in fit of jealous rage. If it's a local TV station rush to their studio in anger, randomly pick out any number of them and start biting their nyansh.

But at the end the antics of an inconsequential tribalist will remain a mere comic relief.

FATALITY

AreaFada2:
To begin, what is an empire & who is an emperor? In layman's terms?

Put simply an empire is a Kingdom that has vassal kingdoms/chiefdoms, whereby the emperor is the King over other Kings.
From 1440 Benin became an empire. Until 1897.

That Benin had many vassals is not disputable. The records are there. I do not know the problem you South-Westerners have with that.

Very soon somebody will be telling us that Modakeke or Ikorodu was a powerful Yoruba Kingdom. Una nor dey tire for propaganda?

Benin had many vassals in Eastern Yourbaland. Deal with it. Reality sucks sometimes. Even Lagos & Beyond. At a time when there were no cars, planes and marching on foot & using boats, and very occasionally horses (that died easily in tse-tse fly prone rain forest) the areas from Delta to Lagos & beyond that Benin Empire spanned and the various tribes & kings that were under Oba of Benin more than qualify to be an empire.

That you lot needed Hausa to tell you your history and even give you Yoruba name & kowtow to them till today is well-known. Please do not bring the writings of those Jahadists to attempt to prove any history on me. I poo on it 24/7. Because already we sent Jahadists packing from attempt to invade Edo North. We had no Afonja to betray us there. Something the "oh so mighty Oyo" cannot boast of.

So Because England was always called the Kingdom of England automatically means that they had no empire. Failed education alert again.
There is no pain on my part. Just amusement plus letting you guys know that a tribalistic & envious revisionist history remains a lie, no matter how many of you spew it or how many bogus academics you quote.

The records of contemporaries are there. I need no jihadists to tell me that.

As somebody who knew Majek walking around town with a guitar before he even teamed up with Sunny Okosun, any Benin person who claims he's Benin is not wrong. I never heard him speak Yoruba (but I know can speak) or talk about his Yoruba dad. He grew up & was nurtured in Benin by his Benin Mum. I bet if he had turned out to be like Anini, Yoruba people would use him to insult us & not claim him.

Suddenly, success has many uncles, neighbours, area friends, aunties, etc.

This is a perfect example of one of our vassal kings

Jealousy go wan kill some ppl

AreaFada2:
Yes Benin did in most. Of course since 1897, several revisionists started gradually. But still in 1979 during coronation of Oba Erediauwa, I remember how many rulers from far and wide came to pay homage and proudly highlighted their traditional vassalage and alliance to Benin. Most of those rulers are gone and Nigeria has ethnically polarised far more since then. Power game & sharing national cake now supersedes everything.

Most of the first Ordjes, Ovies and Obas in many of these parts were Benin princes. Even Brass in Bayelsa. Some still quietly come to be confirmed by Oba of Benin. And when sucession disputes break out, many run to Oba's palace to arbitrate mostly on the ground that they are ancient Benin princes.

I will remind you that for that reason, Oba of Benin once chose a prince of Brass as the Iyase (traditional Prime Minister) of Benin. His family is the well-known Otokiti family in Benin today. As well as two from Eastern Yorubaland. Okoro-Otun being the best known Ado-Akure (Edo n'Ekue) Iyase who served three Obas of Benin. All these within the past 250 years.

The current Iyase is of Urhobo heritage. Iyase is the second position after the Oba. It is non-hereditary and all Edoid people and Benin diaspora people from Imperial times are technically eligible. So a large pool of current Yoruba (isaleko, Idanre, Okitipupa, Owo, much of Ekiti, parts of Ijebuland), Itsekheri nobility/royaltyl (of whom most are Benin descendants), Urhobo/Isoko, Degema (in Rivers State) and many others can be chosen.

Let me remind you that Iginuwa was the son of Oba Olua of Benin. He was sent to Ewere area along the coast to become the Ogiame (Lord/ruler of the seas). With a full reinue of courtiers similar to Oba's own. Hence Ogiame is the Olu's first title. The late Ogiame Atuwatse wanted to annul the Ogiame title years back. His family simply asked him to abdicate until Gov. Uduaghan & Itsekhiri nobility waded in. The Olu quickly ditched the idea. Go & read it.

You guys know very little about the imperial past of Benin. It is woven into the fabric of Benin life. In its diversity. Even in the morning greetings.

Much of what I know about history I learnt from people born around 1870/1875. Some were even nearly 20 years old in 1897 when Britain attacked Benin. They were well over 100 in the 1980s. All consistently telling us same story. I did not need modern historians to know as a child. Not much different from written version. I did not begin learning history just to argue online. There was no internet or mobile phone when I began.

As for killing Benin soldiers, remember that propaganda is the first tool of war. When Americans were about taking Baghdad, that funny Iraqi minister said life on TV that American soldiers were committing suicide outside Baghdad.

You can chose the propaganda version that panders to your primordial tribalistic instincts.

In any case, why go to war if you are not prepared to die. Benin were never cowards.

AreaFada2:
Please recruit more of your co-tribalists & jealous revisionists and let us talk. Work almost done for today. I will have free time soon.
Bring it on. Agbero shouts, curses and tantrums are all welcome.

Olu317:
YES I WAS EXPECTING YOUR LIKES. THE FUNNIEST THING IS THAT YOUR PEOPLE WROTE IT AND IT IS ACCESSIBLE FOR YOU ALL TO READ . GOOGLE IT OTEDO.COM AND REPORT WHAT YOU SEE THERE. LIES UPON LIES YOU CHURN OUT WILL CONSUME YOUR IGNORANCE. EVEN IFA THAT HAS MORE THAN 10,000,000 FOLLOWERS ALSO CAME OUT FROM IGODOMOGODO. NO WONDER, YOU ARE DEPOPULATED. LESS THAN 3000,000 PEOPLE. I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT SOME PEOPLE'S MISFORTUNE BECAUSE OF WELL FED FAT LIES TO THE WORLD....

Olu317:
YES I WAS EXPECTING YOUR LIKES. THE FUNNIEST THING IS THAT YOUR PEOPLE WROTE IT AND IT IS ACCESSIBLE FOR YOU ALL TO READ . GOOGLE IT OTEDO.COM AND REPORT WHAT YOU SEE THERE. LIES UPON LIES YOU CHURN OUT WILL CONSUME YOUR IGNORANCE. EVEN IFA THAT HAS MORE THAN 10,000,000 FOLLOWERS ALSO CAME OUT FROM IGODOMOGODO. NO WONDER, YOU ARE DEPOPULATED. LESS THAN 3000,000 PEOPLE. I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT SOME PEOPLE'S MISFORTUNE BECAUSE OF WELL FED FAT LIES TO THE WORLD....

OlaoChi:
it is obvious you are a troll. you have nothing to offer to humanity but waste your time on an online forum looking for people to offend.

i do not have to explain my moniker to a person like you, neither does Davido for his daughter's name

AreaFada2:
Lol.
I am not even talking of general literacy as it is today. I mean they earlier had higher education and got into govt positions, seizing the civil war to occupy positions Igbo formerly dominated.

So when deciding what to teach in schools as history or curriculum, they have that edge. Now is Nigeria essentially WAZOBIA. If FESTAC was to hold today, tribalism would never allow Idia mask to be used as the face of it. Simple fact.

Osogbo is too far sef. Within Lagos there a large number cannot even speak cannot even speak pidgin. I remember kids around fifteen who could not say "I'll be right back, I do not have change right now" and similar simple stuff in pidgin.

A group of Igbo guys, apparently new in Lagos. I was passing by on my street around 9 am that day. The shop boy kept saying "ma pada wa". The guys kept asking where are you going with our money na? I was shocked that I needed to tell those guys what he meant.
So very common, seen it.