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djustice:
The over-charging is nauseating. They find so many hitherto unknown headers to put the charges under, it's just surreal. A bank once charged me "counting fee" of about £700 for counting roughly N40m, that I was paying into my account with them!!! I just closed the account. They begged and begged, but I wasn't having it. I just wish more Nigerians would actually punish these banks by moving their money.

On the Voltron thing, Sanusi will vex o!! He REALLY does think he's the Defender of the Faith, an Islamic Voltron of sorts.

Man. We got your point. You are rich. But let me remind you that you are using a pseudonym. So, your vainglorious showoffs don't mean poo to anybody. We don't know who you are and don't care to know. you can put your money inside kolo.

Pay [b]£[/b]700 for [b]N[/b]40m. What happened to Counting fee in Nigerian currecny. . .

[quote author=*dhtml link=topic=655958.msg8227620#msg8227620 date=1304076146]Site 2:

[div style="width:800px;background:#ffffff;min-height:750px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto"]

[div style="background:red;height:100px;font:30px tahoma;padding-top:20px;padding-left:100px;"][/quote]Why do you always write your style Inline? #Justasking

Thanks to you all. . . I really appreciate it.

[quote author=yawa-ti-de link=topic=653103.msg8206759#msg8206759 date=1303819286]Yep, there are better ways of approaching the problem but I think, IMHO, OP was just asking for a solution based on the code at hand, as opposed to the best way to approach a solution.[/quote]I know right. . . lol. Cos when I finished answering the question. I was like, "shey na wetin dem ask you be dis sha?" Now I know the reason I failed Jamb so much!

ah! oga ooooo

thailand and manila

mark like viduka

Sorry Guys, I missed out form the beginning! Av been out of work for three days now, and FYI, I have been helping my wife in the labour room while delivering our first baby. I'm really happy and I'm in a super mood today. . . *Yay*

To the question. with the way the browser snapshot is showing the output of what you are trying to do with the spacer class, I think I'ld rather use an unordered list. Reason is I'm not very sure if the span class can take "Display: inline-box" for span but if it does, then it takes care of everything else. But on a safer side, I prefer to use Unordered list. as in:

HTML:

<ul>
<li>facebook</li>
<li>twitter</li>
<li>google</li>
<li>yahoo</li>
</ul>

CSS:

ul {
overflow:hidden; (to prepare the Unodered lit for float)
width: auto; (to auto expand the width)
}

ul li {
float:left; (this would allow them to list beside each other)
margin: 5px 0 5px 0; (We have added our margin top and bottom)
list-style: none; (to remove the list bullets)
}

This is semantically correct and Like you said. this is 100% Gimmicks free.

yeah right!

Don't know why they haven't been able to support it since IE7 even if they were bigheaded to support it in IE6

[quote author=*dhtml link=topic=652050.msg8184411#msg8184411 date=1303509383]Thanks. i searched all over the web hoping to see a query stuff like this, but all the ones i saw had k-legs, so i just
vexed and created this one.
thanks. at least know you have an idea of what i was talking about. This gives a user friendly interface.

Immagine a situation where a teacher has a list of say 100 students and wants to enter results for them each.
You do not need to leave the page. Just click on each student and a thickbox pops out with this table stuff and allows
you to input results and save. and you wont need to be scrolling up and down the page also.

It helps to make an interactive and user friendly interface.[/quote]besides the bolded attributes, what it does and what gives it the "make sense" certificate is the fact that, it saves time.

Dual Core:
<style>
h2 a {
  font-family:inherit;
  font-weight:inherit;
  font-size:inherit;
  color:inherit;
}
</style>
<h2>Hey please <a href="#">Click here</a> abeg! </h2>

you can add "text-decoration:inherit" to the style if you like.

Internet Explorer doesn't support "inherit" at all. SO it is safe to just declare the values

deaaaad

[quote author=*dhtml link=topic=651518.msg8184389#msg8184389 date=1303509161]so usual solution, like someone said is to use a style sheet, and then start guessing sizes that will look like h2.
forgetting the fact that h2 and other formating tags have css representations.

so if you make use of the css representations, all your text will blend and you will not be doing trial and error to guess sizes.[/quote]

<div id="title">
<h1>Click on this link <a href='yahoo'>yahoo dot com</a> to continue</h1>

other markup. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
</div>

Style

#title h1, #title h1 a {

font: watever
font-size: watver
bla bla bla

}


#title h1 a {

text-decoration:none;

}

What the text decoration will do is to remove the default browser underline style for links.



This way the "h1 and a" elements have the same styling and no need to look for anything. . .

[quote author=*dhtml link=topic=652050.msg8183688#msg8183688 date=1303502164]Well, a datagrid is a name i borrowed from visual basic. Basically, it is just a collection of textboxes or textcontrols that are grouped together and function as one single control. This example i just displayed a result thing which was a place i really needed it.
Immagine, if i did not use that control i will be forced to use a very long form with so many fields to enter so many data. but this control simplifies such task.

If you do windows application programming with all them microsoft package, you will find controls like this there, you can even tie them with database fields and stuffs like that.[/quote]Oh I see where you're coming from now! makes plenty sense.

[quote author=*dhtml link=topic=651518.msg8183703#msg8183703 date=1303502293]In the end, i think this thread is for advance css users, i seem not to have a graceful degradation for newbies, i am sorry about that.
Maybe, we will do a proper css class later on, for now, i am too hooked. . . .[/quote]And @Monasore28 just called it a childish thread. Very funny. I don't even know why the guy's post took the wrong side in me.

dammiecool:
wait make Untouchable Ruggedman International version drop nah

This is funny. . . That guy just like to dey feel like important something. lol! Copycat kill am die. e wan dey compare himself to Tuface.

How much has he sold in Nigeria thath he's doing international version.

Abeg go sitdown. . . make better person make good music joooor!


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dhtml3:
This is an excerpt from a school portal i worked on. I needed some kinda grid to allow publishing
of results by teachers and co. . .
Just thought it would make an interesting post.

Features:
1. It allows you to define the columns and the rows
2. It autoassigns ID for them in an easily themeable manner. i.e if i were to display a 100/1000 grid,
i can [b]predict the IDs of the various textboxes.
3. It allows moving from one editable field to another by using your arrow keys.
4. In this demo, you can actually submit
5. You can control the number of digits allowed by some fields e.g. 2 digits were used here
6. Crossbrowser compatibility
7. Supports Jquery validation
8. Integrates with drupal cck / views
9. Can be used in standalone format
10. And several others. . .


http://.net/demos/datagrid/

I don't really understand the bolded part "Grid to allow publishing of result". I know what GRID is but not in this context. I don''t realy get what you're tying to do. So i checked the link and inputed randim numbers to all the columns and it brought out a page which looks like the browser did not interpret the code. Please, shed more light on it. kinda interested.

Akorede A:
You can check www.articulateng.net for just a single sample

okay! Now I understand your price! Goodluck.

[quote author=*dhtml link=topic=651518.msg8182609#msg8182609 date=1303490322]In your font-size: blah blah blah. If you do not know the properties of the various formating tags, you will only be doing trial and error
to get the right size. Which is not always too professional.

But either ways, enough said already. Please go and review my dhtml grid control on https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-652050.0.html[/quote]I don't really get that. isn't that part of what a designer needs to know? properties of various elements. plus you can't use the default font size of "h2". Is "too big and bold". definitely you want to style in to your taste. . . . hence the properties.

Here we go again!!!!!!!!!!! Let's see your previous projects please.

good talk bro. but to me i use both techniques . i like designing from scratch because it enable me to do a lot of twinks which you cant do with already themes(template) and also give you the chance to be creative but if i have tight schedule then i can use template, i love joomla and wp they are good tools i don't keep hands-off.

you do not need to use "themes". . . you can code your website and convert it to a cms managed website. IT is falst that all cms websites look the same. except ofcourse you're using predesigned themes. Code by yourself and turn it to wordpress, joomla, expression engine or wateva to know what am saying.

well, If you can't find any script that matches your description, Outsource it to a developer who would develop and turn it into plugin for you. . . Since your project is geered towards making money, you should be able to invest little amount on that.

[quote author=yawa-ti-de link=topic=651518.msg8177170#msg8177170 date=1303416172]1) how many would know (or would care to know) that H2 has a font-size of 18px?
2) doesn't the ability to control behaviour via css nullify this?[/quote]exactly the answer!

dhtml3:
There are times when you need to do something like this
[h1]Click on this link  [a href='yahoo']yahoo dot com[/a] to continue[/h1]

And you want the link to have same attributes as that h1, are you going to use trial and error
to guess the size? just inspect them.

Well,  instead of going far to use inline style (which to me is not bad but not standard for exact reasons yawatide mentioned]. It is rather simple. If oyu have something like this, all you do is

1] they are under the same parent "div". So, let's assume we call the parent div "title" and we want to style the "h1 and a" the same way. then the answer would be to style them this way

HTML

<div id="title">
       <h1>Click on this link  <a href='yahoo'>yahoo dot com</a> to continue</h1>
       
       other markup. . . .  . . . . . . . . . .
</div>

Style

#title h1, #title h1 a {

font: watever
font-size: watver
bla bla bla

}


#title h1 a {

text-decoration:none;

}

What the text decoration will do is to remove the default browser underline style for links.



This way the "h1 and a" elements have the same styling and no need to look for anything. . .

monasor28:
First of all Nobody does inline styling any more, that is the reason CSS was  created to take care of design properties colors,hieght,transparency e.t.c

And html for structure,  Any way your question is rather childish,  serioulsly who's the not-so-smart person that set the question,  excuse my language but i get upset when
anonymous people display *^$&* symptoms on public boards,

Inline styling as it called would be===

=====================================
<span style="font-size:18px;font-weight:400;line-height:21.6px"> blah blah blah </span>
======================================

DO you have any video tutorial on html5 and css3 --- i cant get my finger around it,  through this lame text,

Mehn. . . As much as you're trying to make sense. You shot yourself with this nonsense jive. I don't go off on people online but your approach is making me develop hormones. Don't always flatter yourself that you know stuffs more than anybody cos at the end of the day, you will definitely find out you know almost nothing.  Web Design did't start at css3 and HTML 5. While you might think you are on top of your game with css3 and html 5, some of us have history that goes way back. You think the post is childish but you never know where it might generate to.  .  . like what I'm seeing now. I've been using firebug for months now and i never noticed what DHTML pointed out. No one knows when he might need stuffs like that.

You brought out that "M.I" website mockup and you thought that was the droppings to yourself but Newsflash "That droppings is Whack". And if you dont believe the poo is whack you can repost it and I'ld show you what I'm talking about.

One again, dont ever assume you know more than anybody.

talking about <span>?

[quote author=*dhtml link=topic=651518.msg8174529#msg8174529 date=1303357231]Now this is a rather simple quiz actually. This is a css class below

.myclass {font-size:18px;font-weight:400;line-height:21.6px}


Now i want to say <span class="myclass">This is a quiz and not an exam</span>

However, because i am writing a professional exam and i claimed to have mastered HTML,
so i was asked to rewrite the same thing in html and not use css at all - not even inline css,
and it must produce exactly the same effect as the class shown above. . . . .como? how?
will i solve this trivial problem?[/quote]

<font face="whatever" size="18px">

                <b>This is a quiz and not an exam</b>

         </font>

note: I have decided to drop line-height as a way to do away  with redundancy since the content itself is short and not expected to take the next line. plus, "font-weight:400px" is as good as [b]bold[b]

Why is it that simple discussions usually take the negative route over here. We shouldn't let ego overtake our discussions everytime. If you must stand against something, say it in a polite way that people might want to see the point you're trying to make. anywas. .  . that's that!


Site under Review . . . . . . .  . . . . . . . . . .  . . . ,  .  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,   . . .

SECURITY VS DESIGN

I don't know why I used "versus" cos one is not suppose to bow for the other. A successful website is one which pays strict close attention to DESIGN and FUNCTIONALITY.

This is what I would call "Design and Development Irony" cos the reason for the enhancement of security on a website is to keep users' details and their experience on the website secured. However,  no matter how enhanced the security is, a badly designed website has failed in the face of its users. NO serious person would want to insert his/her credit details into a badly designed site because it sort of take away the trust in the site. Even if the "SSL Certificate" icon is staring at them. as a matter of fact, the new way of saying a site is bad these days is "it looks fake".

On the other hand, A website has also failed if the security is wack. Two things, One, People are entrusting you with some vital details, you don't want to make your ecommerce website an abode for hackers to pick credit card details, you don't want hackers to start controlling your database for you, packing email addresses and all that.  .   .  It's bad. If later discovered your credibility is off! believe me. Two, for your own personal satisfaction, you want to make a bulletproof design. the only reason you can feel relaxed and all yourself a good developer is when you're sure that your site is perfect, design and development wise. it's a thing of the conscience.


ABOUT CREATIVE PROCESS [mockup or no mockup]

Out of all the graphics software out now.  .  . Adobe photoshop is leading as the "industry standard". I used the inverted commas because i dont believe what you use can be  dictated by anybody and how you work. However, following established designers, reading books and watching lectures, it is no news that photoshop is endorsed by so many people and creating a mockup is just a perfect part of the creative process. True pen and paper can be good or any other medium, but the point here is a mockup done in a graphic software, like photoshop, provides a visual appearance of the website (without its functionality). And believe me, It's part of my creative process and it helps me in coding as fast as I can. you already have the font taken care of, the layout is now extra perfect with dummy contents written and images inserted in their various spaces. All you need is the knowledge of transforming that into a functioning website. Some agencies require photoshop mockup before coding. Even clients do!

One other thing to note is that young designers now live under the illusion that everybody must be a freelancer just like that! Not in Nigeria alone, but almost everywhere!

Before now, freelance used to be for people who have worked with agencies, worked as in-house designers for some companies for few years whereby they've made just so many contacts that they were forced into freelancing because they couldn't keep their outside projects with office project.

But now, every new guy wants to jump on the freelance ride with little or no contact.

It is almost difficult to start like that, even if you're a genius.

[quote author=*dhtml link=topic=648050.msg8147118#msg8147118 date=1303045165]@bouzymill2 your last post was swallowed up by the spam bot! but i was able to see it using ehm winwap for windows[/quote]thank you so much. I just don't know what to do to the spambot. It just keep deleting my post for reasons i just couldn't understand. . .

first, sorry for parading your thread with so much words, I just love the topic.

Why is it that most webmasters are really not as rich as you would expect.

"who is a webmaster?" Okay. I would assume you're talking about "Web designers, front-End Designers, front-end developers, back-end developers and co. There are things people need to know concerning web design and development generally. It is never a field for someone lazy. It will never be a field where mediocrity would win over professionalism. It is a field where your skillset speaks louder and more effectively than your "certificate". It is a challenging field whereby people bring out new things everyday. It's a field you can't catch up if you 're a slow learner and it's a field you can just become the most sought after.  .  . if your skills are really tight!

Now why all these? maybe "gibberrish" or irrelevant. But No. Wait and think for a second what is it exactly I'm trying to pinpoint?

What I'm trying to say is most "webmasters" as you called them, don't know they are part of larger communities. I used communities cos designers dont just belong to "InfoTech" as, in my own opinion, amateurs designer say, we belong to larger and more effective communities like the field of "branding", the field of "Visual Communication", the field of "psychology". Most designers don't even know that what they are designing is a "product". . . and what sells a product is how it is "branded". You are designing with one clear goal, which is "pulling traffic" and nothing pulls traffic than a website beautifully designed and functionally responsible; Hence "visual communication". When users come to your website, you want them to come back. . . and the only way to make them come back is to give them a wonderful experience. A good designer/developer or whatever would put himself in the shoes of the user and design from that perspective. . . That is "Psychology".

A designer who is aware of all these, would never be poor! to emphasize that, NEVER HAVE A REASON TO BE POOR. A designer who can think like that, would be able to come up with a very good idea that generates money. I have met alot of designers/ developers, listened to video interviews and conference sessions and what I've realized is that, most designers or developers have one project or the other that they do online. The latest I've just seen is www.shiftedit.com . . . an IDE web application. That is innovation. Not just that. You can think of anything. The web is an open market. all you need to pay for is domain name and you are a potential billionaire.

It is only sad that in Nigeria, I have found it really difficult to see a distinct desginer or a developer. Most people just parade themselves with half knowledge and don't really know what this field is. A guy just reads one book or just jump on one WYSIWYG application and start calling himself a web designer. Brings out a cardboard made business card and start advertising himself. They come to nairaland and start shouting "Get web design and hosting for 10,000 Naira". It is just pathetic when I see the jobs they've done. I usually call it "waste of domain name". I would give them the advice Sean Parker gave Mark Zuckerberg in the movie "Social Network", about advertising on facebook at the early stage. "You don't know what it is yet!" So, don't kill your skill by chasing money without knowing what that thing really is. Check the history and know its state. Then you know where exactly you are.

SO all in all, Only when Designers know their role and know what skill is required of them that they can think of creating something that brings money home! I have met so many designers and no one needs to tell you they are doing great. But ofcourse, most of us are obsessed, with buying gadgets. from MACbook to Drawing Pad to some sophisticated Monitors etc. So, it's not about getting rich like Dangote (maybe try another career). Paul Rand was never as rich as Dangote but he was very wealthy. He made it from graphic design. Paula Scher (not sure about that name) is rich as a graphic designer. one of my favourite bloggers, Abduzeedo, now works with google, and i'm sure we all know that "no be beans".  So, the point here is You can't just be poor if you got your skills right.

I hope to see Nigerian designers and developers up the scale one day.  .  .

first, sorry for parading your thread with so much words, I just love the topic.

Why is it that most webmasters are really not as rich as you would expect.

"who is a webmaster?" Okay. I would assume you're talking about "Web designers, front-End Designers, front-end developers, back-end developers and co. There are things people need to know concerning web design and development generally. It is never a field for someone lazy. It will never be a field where mediocrity would win over professionalism. It is a field where your skillset speaks louder and more effectively than your "certificate". It is a challenging field whereby people bring out new things everyday. It's a field you can't catch up if you 're a slow learner and it's a field you can just become the most sought after.  .  . if your skills are really tight!

Now why all these? maybe "gibberrish" or irrelevant. But No. Wait and think for a second what is it exactly I'm trying to pinpoint?

What I'm trying to say is most "webmasters" as you called them, don't know they are part of larger communities. I used communities cos designers dont just belong to "InfoTech" as, in my own opinion, amateurs designer say, we belong to larger and more effective communities like the field of "branding", the field of "Visual Communication", the field of "psychology". Most designers don't even know that what they are designing is a "product". . . and what sells a product is how it is "branded". You are designing with one clear goal, which is "pulling traffic" and nothing pulls traffic than a website beautifully designed and functionally responsible; Hence "visual communication". When users come to your website, you want them to come back. . . and the only way to make them come back is to give them a wonderful experience. A good designer/developer or whatever would put himself in the shoes of the user and design from that perspective. . . That is "Psychology".

A designer who is aware of all these, would never be poor! to emphasize that, NEVER HAVE A REASON TO BE POOR. A designer who can think like that, would be able to come up with a very good idea that generates money. I have met alot of designers/ developers, listened to video interviews and conference sessions and what I've realized is that, most designers or developers have one project or the other that they do online. The latest I've just seen is www.shiftedit.com . . . an IDE web application. That is innovation. Not just that. You can think of anything. The web is an open market. all you need to pay for is domain name and you are a potential billionaire.

It is only sad that in Nigeria, I have found it really difficult to see a distinct desginer or a developer. Most people just parade themselves with half knowledge and don't really know what this field is. A guy just reads one book or just jump on one WYSIWYG application and start calling himself a web designer. Brings out a cardboard made business card and start advertising himself. They come to nairaland and start shouting "Get web design and hosting for 10,000 Naira". It is just pathetic when I see the jobs they've done. I usually call it "waste of domain name". I would give them the advice Sean Parker gave Mark Zuckerberg in the movie "Social Network", about advertising on facebook at the early stage. "You don't know what it is yet!" So, don't kill your skill by chasing money without knowing what that thing really is. Check the history and know its state. Then you know where exactly you are.

SO all in all, Only when Designers know their role and know what skill is required of them that they can think of creating something that brings money home! I have met so many designers and no one needs to tell you they are doing great. But ofcourse, most of us are obsessed, with buying gadgets. from MACbook to Drawing Pad to some sophisticated Monitors etc. So, it's not about getting rich like Dangote (maybe try another career). Paul Rand was never as rich as Dangote but he was very wealthy. He made it from graphic design. Paula Scher (not sure about that name) is rich as a graphic designer. one of my favourite bloggers, Abduzeedo, now works with google, and i'm sure we all know that "no be beans".  So, the point here is You can't just be poor if you got your skills right.

I hope to see Nigerian designers and developers up the scale one day.  .  .