₦airaland Forum

misspicy:
she's been a prude,don't mind he
what ya say

misspicy:
then maybe we can experience it together

misspicy:
you love it too

cloudgoddess:
Who lied to you? I honestly can not see how you could believe this unless you have been lied to repeatedly. What even is "Darwinism"? Charles Darwin didn't coin evolution, nor was he the only person responsible for explaining it - far from it. Evidence for evolution was already observed by scholars up to a hundred or more years before him - Darwin only discovered one of the most important mechanisms driving the process - natural selection, or the tendency nature (physical surroundings, availability of nutrients, predation, etc) has to allow only the individuals most adapt to survive in a particular environment to reproduce, eventually leading to genetically distinct species arising from different selective pressures. Discoveries that were made after Darwin's time, like Mendelian genetics and the discovery of DNA, backed evolution even more strongly, and provided more systematic and detailed methods of measuring evolutionary processes. DNA, inheritence, mutation, amongst many other vital aspects of biology, simply would not make sense if evolution were not occuring.

Not only are there massive amounts of research supporting evolution (and I do mean MASSIVE. for example, every single one of the top 10 schools in the world - the likes of Princeton, Harvard, Oxford, etc - has an evolutionary biology department that goes through millions of dollars in funding per year), but the numbers are growing almost daily. Any peer-reviewed journal that deals with medicine, ecology, or genetics will have hundreds of thousands of hits for conclusive research done on evolution within the past decade alone (pubmed journal: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=evolution. over 429,000 hits). Understanding evolution is vital to ANY biologist, especially molecular geneticists, pathologists, and people who work in species conservation.

Have you ever heard of antibiotic resistence? Hundreds, if not thousands of trials in the lab have shown definitively that bacteria are constantly evolving in rapid rates - which is why new antibiotics have to be produced almost every year to compensate for their new cellular capabilities that allow them to evade the medicines we used to use. In fact, microbial evolution is such a major threat that biologists and physicians agree that it could spell the end of humanity if we aren't able to keep up.

Jasmine360:

If Amina come abeg no do mouth action

johnydon22:
My bro we are a fortunate lot to be in a generation where we have unlimited knowledge at the tip of our fingers (The internet) .. many don't realize this and they use the internet for things that are basically useless and cannot develop them ..

I am a 21st century being bro, so i deal with e-books mostly not hard copies (mostly because i sometimes can't afford hard copies).. So i have tons of E-books i can send to you and another way is youtube, it is much fun... The phone makes it easy that you carry a whole lot of books without the weight for free..

AgentOfAllah:
I don't see why you feel the need to conflate evolution and abiogenesis.

Where is it said that life started by chance?
Theory of evolution doe not attempt to answer the question of the origin of life, and it is not clear to me how that makes it wrong. By your reasoning, you should also reject your doctor's prescriptions because the field of medicine fails to provide the origins of the chemicals in the medicine.
[Quote]
*Fossil Evidence refutes all evolutionary claims
[/Quote] Please provide the fossil evidence that refutes evolutionary claims.
Certificate forgeries exist in Nigeria. Why forge if real Nigerian certificates exist?
What is "law of mathematical probability"? And where is it said that DNA formed by chance?
On what evidence is this claim based? Mutation is not the driver of evolution, but it is a necessary precursor to evolution. This fact has been known by horse and dog breeders for centuries.
What are these basic inconsistencies?


You are advised to be thorough and sure of your facts regarding this subject before fumbling through it.

Nubian113:
So you're God of the Gorilla's bqlekan this your twin Say's Yoruba men are Gorillas and he is the

blublahd:
The heart is all yours bro,
And if it's the rib cage you want too, come and collect it.

Nubian113:
You standing next to him... So it's a team for real


Keep it!!! I don't want it!

Nubian113:
You crack me up...

Kiil him please and take my heart back

Nubian113:
The last Yoruba man has it oya go and collect it

SirWere:
Damn, I hate weighing in late on Intellectual debates.

However, going through this thread, I see there are still some basic points about evolution daretodiffer and others need to understand.


1) Evolution is dependent on the environment and situation for the specie(s) involved. Lemme use this analogy: If we were to lock 100 rats and a 100 dogs with a lot of grass and sufficent meat and we were open the door a million years later ; here are the possible evolutionary trends:
- The rats develop stronger legs for running; they become stronger taller and faster and gradually develops fangs to bite/eat dogs. The whisker becomes a vestigal organ

- The dogs develop molars for chewing grass and lose their acute sense of taste.

- Nothing happens, the rats and the dogs are dead .

Two new species (dograss and fangrat) were just formed. They Evolved. Capisce?


2)Evolution isn't a magic show where one animal is here...........and then the next! Evolution doesn't agree with nature. Nature loves stability and Evolution occurs because of change. If the change occurs too quickly, or is too drastic; Evolution doesn't occur. Evolution is a slow, gradual process. It's like writing a book: At first it might be romance or some hodge-podge. You start writing it at first but then you get a lovely sci-fi or fantasy idea and you're like "Damn, this book will be so much better if this idea is included". But then do you then change your romance novel into a sci-fi novel? Hell no, you gradually introduce science fiction until you get a novel in equal proportion to sci-fi and romance. But you, still being unsatisfied, decide to write a sci-fi novel. But then do you start again? No, you gradually edit the romantic parts (you will still leave some though : vestigial organs) until you get a sci-fi novel pure and simple. Evolution is just like that.

3) Scientists have discovered transitonary fossils of some animals eg whales, birds, man etc. Insufficent space prevents me from expantiating on this.

4) Mutations are still occuring. A while back, I read of a woman who could see colours no one else can't. While green is green to us, she sees and extra "shimmer".
The Japanese after Hiroshima gave to mutated kids which they had to put down; sadly.

5) Evolution wasn't just accepted when Darwin propounded it at first. He was mocked, riddculed and his theory denied. But it stood the test of time and geologists started discovering fossils which supported his theory. Right now, evolution branches to many different aspects : geoglogy, palentology, microbiology et al.

6) There are theists who accept evolutions and still hold their beliefs. Leakey, the man who proved the evolution of man to the court, was a Catholic. An Islamic Scholar in the 7th Century had proposed Natural selection before darwin was even born.

7) The formation of DNA by inorganic Substances is exceedingly improbable. In life, we accept extremely unlikely things to be impossible. But it is not so. 5 years ago, Any man who said Chelsea will not be in the top ten in 2016 will be called a madman. But now what do we see If anything, Stanley Miller's experiment does give my hypothesis a nice cushion. And believe me, the earth was in existence millions of years ago. Take a look at mankind's progress a thousand years. Now imagine what will happen for MILLIONS of years. My hypothesis don't seem far-fetched anymore again, does it

Nubian113:
Lol! Now I'm in trouble



Brother please! Take all the coffee just leave my heart behind

Nubian113:
You're really good looking has anyone ever told you that? are you team Hausa? They're finnne looking ppl

ronald4lif:
.

I think this should depends on your definition of living. There are variant animate and inanimate compounds. Life is made up of proteins. Proteins are made from amino acids. There have been numerous experiments where they put nitrogen, oxygen, carbon and hydrogen and helium (the components of our universe) in a tube and applied energy (electricity) and those individual C,H,N,O,He molecules assembled into amino acids. Amino acids are not alive but they are the building blocks of "life".

For instance in soil formation, phosphates and water combine with nitrates. Carbondioxide in air combines with those items in photosynthesis to become chlorophyll, which is the material that makes a plant have its energy. So in the process, four inorganic materials became the fuel for a living thing, and in the process of doing so, allowed that thing to grow. Those raw materials became the material of the plant.

Consequently, animals eat the plant. They turn it into proteins.

Furthermore, we eat the animals. We turn it into proteins.

And yet it started from inorganic materials.

ronald4lif:
You don't think abiogenesis is real and that non-living matter can form into a living organism?

CoolUsername:
.

That's an opinion.

True. The final piece of the jigsaw puzzle is still eluding scientists. Until a satisfactory model is discovered, your point stands.

You'll need to bring forth some evidence for this claim. The archaeopteryx is good fossil evidence of a transitional specie.

I don't think that forgeries by dubious scientists disprove the entire theory.

With a large enough sample space (the universe), improbable events can happen repeatedly.

There have been experiments that have led to speciation in the lab: (check out William R. Rice's and George W. Salt's fruit fly experiment).

You should shed more light on this point.

Evolution is the best scientific model we currently in regards to life. If you have any better models, feel free to discuss them

ronald4lif:
Bqlekan, I'd address any further comment of yours later on as I'm heading home and would be on the steering. Just to let you know ahead of a late reply. One thing is certain, this debate is an exhaustible one and no one truly have 100% facts as to the mysteries surrounding the world.

johnydon22:
Where?

johnydon22:
What

Nubian113:
I'm still laughing at shit in my house


This is something my uncle would say


You won't kii me wi laff tonite

ronald4lif:
Lol. So are you for or against evolution or creationist? And what are your reason(s)?

I'm for evolution and my reason is coming up in a subsequent comment.

ronald4lif:
Apologies guys for my lateness, was out of something I had no control of. Reading through... and yes the debate stretches beyond tonight.

Griffon:
Let's get started already. I'm sweating