hrhobi1:
After Onan's brother Er dies, his father Judah told him to fulfill his duty to his brother by entering into a levirate marriage with his brother's widow Tamar to give her offspring.

Religion professor Tikva Frymer-Kensky has pointed out the economic repercussions of a levirate marriage: any son born to Tamar would be deemed the heir of the deceased Er, and able to claim the firstborn's double share of inheritance. However, if Er were childless, Onan would have inherited as the oldest
surviving son.[3]

When Onan had sex with Tamar, he withdrew before climax[4] and "spilled his seed [or semen] on the ground", since any child born would not legally be considered his heir.[5] The next statement in the bible says that Onan did evil and that God slew him.[6]

Now, if Onan had rejected the idea of sleeping with his brothers wife initially, I think God wouldn't have been angry at him. But he rather enjoyed the sex and ejaculated on the floor to avoid her getting pregnant. His motive was to enjoy the sex and still remain the surviving Son of their father and thereby inheriting everything for himself.

So he tried to play smart, and got slewed by God. Also remember this happened in the first testament, the book of Genesis to be precise.

Peace be unto you.

HRH OBI 1.

hrhobi1:
After Onan's brother Er dies, his father Judah told him to fulfill his duty to his brother by entering into a levirate marriage with his brother's widow Tamar to give her offspring.

Religion professor Tikva Frymer-Kensky has pointed out the economic repercussions of a levirate marriage: any son born to Tamar would be deemed the heir of the deceased Er, and able to claim the firstborn's double share of inheritance. However, if Er were childless, Onan would have inherited as the oldest
surviving son.[3]

When Onan had sex with Tamar, he withdrew before climax[4] and "spilled his seed [or semen] on the ground", since any child born would not legally be considered his heir.[5] The next statement in the bible says that Onan did evil and that God slew him.[6]

Now, if Onan had rejected the idea of sleeping with his brothers wife initially, I think God wouldn't have been angry at him. But he rather enjoyed the sex and ejaculated on the floor to avoid her getting pregnant. His motive was to enjoy the sex and still remain the surviving Son of their father and thereby inheriting everything for himself.

So he tried to play smart, and got slewed by God. Also remember this happened in the first testament, the book of Genesis to be precise.

Peace be unto you.

HRH OBI 1.

zzzzy:
and you think they did it themselves, it is all the work of the holy spirit through them.

Pls clarify yourself

zzzzy:
ya, that's faith.

Meel:
Pls atheists believe in jazz or charm, ( ayeta, okigbe ode echi, paro, bante, e.t.c.).
If dey use one paro struck u , u will believe that mystical beings exists.

zzzzy:
i can't convert you, the Holy Spirit does that

But you don't want to be converted.

Also, no true christian do blind faith either.

zzzzy:
Heb 11:1 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.

zzzzy:
hmmm, at least, theism is based on faith, what is atheism based on, at least you already stated it's no science.

zzzzy:
atheists claim there is no God. And also claim man evolved.

zzzzy:
the two parties are both claimants.

onetrack:


Absolutely, if that is required, but if he is a god then I don't see why he would need me to submit.

onetrack:
A being with clear supernatural powers must visit me directly and prove that he can break the laws of physics (such as making time stop or creating a live animal from nothing). I would also need a fellow atheist friend with me who witnesses the same thing so that I know I'm not hallucinating.

That would make me a believer. Don't give me a book and say these things already happened according to this book.

zzzzy:
Atheists can't disprove God. Check out most of them, when asked of their proofs of no God, they ask for the proofs of God to disprove.

steveneche:
Advice pls, what do i do?

bettercreature:
I was reading on CNN few minutes ago that uk government will increased facebook and google taxes and germany will soon do the same,i'm just wondering why these companies are not paying taxes in Nigeria whereas they pay heavy taxes in other countries

malvisguy212:
if you have any question to ask, create a topic for that, this thread is not for atheists.

Thread for xtain and muslims to see who gat a better god?

malvisguy212:
He is God, the creator of heaven and earth, He alone is to be worship. James 4:8 tells us to, "Draw near to God and He will draw near to you." How do you draw near to God ? By worship. Do you think heavenly worship is like religion activities ?

When we worship God we develop such traits as forgiveness, tenderness, justice, righteousness, purity, kindness, and love.

This is why i must and always fear religionist, they can do everything for there god. So if you don't worship this your god you won't develop trait like loving, kindness, justice, etc or know its good to forgive or love for goodness sake. So you forgive or love becauase your god told you to. Imagine your way of reasoning.

Animals also have these traits does that mean they worship this suposed god of yours.


Righteousness like obeying gods request to kill your son like Abraham, paying 10% tax, obeying to kill every inhabitant of a city without sparering even cattles, is this righteuosness?

unphilaz:
I have read on this forum where 'humanist' have stated that most of the stories in both koran and the bible are fictional and mere fairy tales... now that is thier opinion.

My question is for them humanist, if you must choose between this two 'fictional' characters, to allow your daughter to be with, based on their CV (below). which will you entrust your beloved daughter to...?

I won't entrust him/her to someone who said he came to set fathers against there sons, daughters against there mothers, and one who allowed wild wolves(or foxes i dnt know) to kill 40 children just because his prophet request it.

Neither will i entrust him/her to a sickend ... for child sex abuse.

malvisguy212:
what is your understanding of holiness ? To have intimacy with women because you fight in allah cause, you call this holiness ? But the God describe in the bible, who cannot tolerate sin. Which of this is holiness to you ? Well, I am not surprise, you are an atheist, you don't know what holiness is all about.