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There are numerous religious teachings that fall due to scientific facts. one that amaze much is the Copernicus, Johannes Kepler and Galileo idea of a heliocentric world which lead to much controversy and dissensions against the idea of a geocentric world traded by the church for centuries. The matter was investigated by the Inquisition in 1615, which concluded that heliocentrism was "foolish and absurd in philosophy, and formally heretical since it explicitly contradicts in many places the sense of Holy Scripture. in the case of Galiloe He was tried by the Inquisition, found "vehemently suspect of heresy", and forced to recant. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest. To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin....To affirm that the Sun...is at the centre of the universe and only rotates on its axis without going from east to west, is a very dangerous attitude and one calculated not only to arouse all Scholastic philosophers and theologians but also to injure our holy faith by contradicting the Scriptures -Cardinal Bellarmine during Galileo's trail. Now the church has also adopted the heliocentricity(scientific explanation) against the geocentric view(scriptural) .-scriptural passages which was used to defend the geocentric world miraculously disappeared or what? -the passages they claimed it contradict, does the contradiction still hold? if not why? -then what will be said about the passages about the geocentric world?
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op you are sharing the Safeguarding measures with them again ![]() car thieves would be like ![]()
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Ontarget:whats the significance in knowing where life came from? ok its from the flying supaggeti monster, big bang. then what ? Since you said "you don't know" then it means you accept the possibility that creation came from a superior intelligent being, therefore you are not an atheist.ordinary humans must need a creator, but a more complex being( the superior intelligent being) doesn't require a creator? ![]() your notion of a creator is flawed. |
Ontarget:i do not know, simple! i wont make further assumptions. or do you know? |
Ontarget:exactly! such as how the world started, right? then why assume a creator, when you said its beyond human understanding and perception? that means its not out of human understanding and perception since you know its a creator that assembled it. When it comes to the question of who assembled the assembler it is just beyond the scope of our understanding.so When it comes to the question of who assembled the world its within human understanding? , how did you know, who told you? The fact still remains that humans did not create themselves. Something definitely created humans.please what is that something? it could be the big bang right? Are you saying humans just appeared out of thin air? Then what assembled the thin air from which humans appeared from according to your logic?are you saying the assembler just appeared out of thin air? Then what assembled the thin air from which assembler appeared from according to your logic? ![]() |
Ontarget:what type of god? it could be big bang, right? If you are an Atheist, what if you were somewhere outside in a sandy area looking around, and suddenly you started seeing grains of sand slowly assemble themselves to form a perfect sculpture of a human form to the finest details? What exactly will be your conclusion while witnessing such?my conclusion will be "grains of sand slowly assemble themselves to form a perfect sculpture of a human to the finest details" simple . No further assumptions.Definitely you will conclude that whatever force is making the grains of sand assemble themselves must be concious and very intelligent to be able to guide every individual grain of sand to position themselves at the appropriate places to carve out a perfect human sculpture to the finest details.which force again . making assumptions here we go again, this forces could be big bang ![]() When a child is forming in the womb, billions of individual cells divide and arrange themselves to form the eyes, nose, teeth, brain and every other thing to the finest details to form a complete human being. Is it by chance or by evolution that billions cells coordinate themselves appropriately in the right place and time to form a complete human being? This is something evolution or chance cannot explain. For such a thing to take place there must be an intelligent spirit to provide the direction or source code that will guide every single billion cell to fit itself at the appropriate place without any disorganisation.If you are an Atheist, what if you were somewhere outside in a sandy area looking around, and suddenly you started seeing grains of sand slowly assemble themselves to form a perfect sculpture of a human form to the finest details, What exactly will be your conclusion while witnessing such? Here is my conclusion. If every assembled thing need an assembler, then who assembled the assembler? so what does an atheist think about this?Atheist does not make assumptions Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? |
Ferruccio:how did you came about this. ![]() prove to me its not true ![]() |
Ferruccio:evidence like ![]() |
Ferruccio:or maybe he used the same methods like the doctor who confirmed my uncle dead, but after some hours in the mortuary he woke up ![]() with other cases were people are confirmed dead, after days they wake up again, some inside their casket/coffin. ![]() |
Montelukast:so you need an evidence ![]() surprised coming from a christain. had it been i added some spice to the story, that a man of god came and prayed to him am sure you wouldn't have asked for evidence. the last form of hypocrisy ![]() |
Ferruccio:a doctor in the church with what equipments ![]() i was called and told we lost a relative some months back, confirmed by doctors. he was kept in the mortuary. after hours he walked out alive! we cant be sure if he was death or not. countless scenarior where people wake from the mortuary even after days. http://www.oddee.com/item_98718.aspx https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/14/waking-morgue-death-janina-kolkiewicz were they really death? these are just midical inaccuracy. |
MaxCoates:according to you you were there when it happened. but how did you know he was dead at the first place? your presence and you watching it does not make it any true. for the same reason i dont believe spiderman exist even thus i watch spiderman video, thats the same reason i wont believe this video neither. magicians use tricks to deceive their audience. yep everyone will see it, but that doesn't make it any true. you were there when it happened but : is he realy death before the prayer? for how long? what caused his death? did he die in the church or at home? |
KingEbukasBlog:outside space and time who told you? where is this location?in a different dimension . Have you been outside this universe to ascertain that no God exists ?never been to outside. And you have been to to ascertain god exist ![]() |
sexylemo:so video has now become an evidence . spiderman, batman, hulk are all true since i've watched the videos?.where did the child died? when? what cause? for how long? who verified he was dead? to begin with. am sure you know non of these. what does your presences has to do with the details needed? you where there? fine then how did you know he was dead. |
KingEbukasBlog:lol how can i prove a nonexitant being do not exist. |
KingEbukasBlog:which of the religion did god create? |
JackBizzle:if you are not certain, you have fallen into agnostism or what do you think |
KingEbukasBlog:lol fallen angels ![]() so which one did god created? |
KingEbukasBlog:and who create these religion? |
JackBizzle:And neither did he deny the posibility of one. he is not certain or undecided if their is one or not. while an atheist, their is not no such thing like uncertainity in his position. |
KingEbukasBlog:by religion i mean in particular islam/christainity. please, the god you believe in, is it a god without religion or... |
JackBizzle:Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods Agnostic: a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God. correct? |
Educative and informative writeup . Many Nigerians are not even aware of other religions apart from Christainity, Islam and maybe Buddism least other positions like Deism, Agnosticsm etc.kingebukasblog you got it wrong. An atheist argue with an agnostic, deist and theist each in different and ways. All religionist (christains/muslims), the very concept that anchor their belief in a god is found mainly in their religion. An atheist cannot argue with a person who still hold onto his religious belief (christainity/islam). so an atheist tries to cripple his religion which is the basis of his belief in a god. You can't have an atheistic view if you still holdon to your religious belief. Can you convince a muslim that christianity is the true way if he still hold on to his belief pertaining the quran? no it can't be possible. |
Pidgin2:the last time i checked you are the ones who: fight for this god. pray to this god. defend this god. offer money to this god. sing to and hail the god. curse others on its behalf... ![]() |
AccidentalGenius:when i was young, still battling with religion. I used to ask myself and wonder, so yahweh and his legion of angels would truely fight satan? when did satan become so powerfull that god and his heavenly troops had to fight the satan he created? ![]() |
matrix600:Sure why not. probably training the army of legion of angels for the great battle ahead. ![]() |
MaxCoates:if i showed you a video, how i saw someone fly together with a link that carries the news will you believe it. if i only provide video and a link? |



