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afrodoc2:
It had no relevance, so i have ignored it as mere trolling.

Ok sah.

Wisely done.

We need to be able to sift the necessary from the chaff in some of these arguments. The Pep choirboys are really flooding these pages with a lot of flotsam.

Opaks jus full everywhere.

Very soon we will begin to see 1970 World Cup team of the season in relation to what links Pep and Fergie in terms of spending.

@afrodoc2,

Please come and respond to the graphic of team of the season and how it concerns the topic at heart.

elrony:
Them ask you another thing you dey type another..

Lmao

Na so the bad belle dey purge you reach?

Pointless senseless hate will drive you to say nonsense.

Stick to the matter at heart: how is Pep's spending equal to Fergie?

Na so we begin dey see NPFL team of the season.

Issokay.

CapitalCee:
He has been trying to wriggle himself out of trouble. The pummelling he has been receiving recently together with PEP is the reason. Same pep that could not replicate what his predecessor did despite spending 528m pounds in 18 months.

Leave the guy to be turning whatever it is that he turns.

At this rate, amala no go gree am turn again. Maybe it is lafun.

By the special grace of our creator Liverpool will complete that which they started on Tuesday. Maybe he will start roaming the streets by then.

CapitalCee:
Which position did fergie met united? Which position did pep met city?

Don't mind him.

Like Pep like supporter: both frauds.

Ferguson met United in the relegation zone in November 1986. 21st out of 22 teams.

See stylish remixing of facts. It is now where United Finished the season before as to where Fergie actually met the club.

afrodoc2:
Don't let your idolatory of Pep make you sound foolish. The highest spent for a player then was 5.5m Gazza followed by 3.6m Shearer.
So when Cantona was bought for 1.2m, there were English players going for 5.5m, 3.6m.

In that Cantona transfer period while Cantona was bought for 1.2m, the following players were bought for more money, Shearer, David Rocastle (midfielder), Martin Keown (defender). Martin Keown with his bushy eyes cost more than Cantona, Dean Saunders, Paul Stewart (midfielder), Darren Anderton, Stuart Ripley (midfielder). Yes Stuart Ripley cost more than Cantona.
Dayo stop associating with amoeba, you need to educate yourself.

In Fergies' first EPL season he had only 1 player in the top 10 transfers and that was Cantona and in his 2nd season only Keane in the top 10.

Pep had 2 players in the top 10 in his first season and 3 the next season.

Furthermore Pep spent more than all his rivals his first 2 seasons, whereas Fergie did not outspend all other clubs for almost a decade.

It is very illogical and ridiculous to compare those Fergie seasons to what Pep is doing now.

Lol

doctor, you be sharp mouthed fellow.

See admonishments.

That aside, let them counter the facts you have put on ground instead of telling lies to defend their god.

Their agenda is clear: since they can't defend Pep, it is to make Ferguson look equally bad. How sensible that is, I still can't understand because like you pointed out earlier, Fergie's first title dominating sides were built on youth and home grown players.

CapitalCee:
Rooney a record? How? Care to list all these such records for us

Na so dem dey manufacture lies to buttress their point.

Soon they will count Rooney's purchase as one of the 6 he broke in 27 years. Even that figure is still subject to scrutiny.

Cruxifizio:
In the same useless and local league that you don't recognise and claimed he wasn't employed to win? Of what use is the useless points?

You should be busy explaining to us why the fraud have decided to destroy the good work of pelligrini, not this rubbish you have been wailing about bros.

Bro, don't you see what is going on?

It is now convenient to call on a so-called 30 point lead when it is obvious Pep going to be kicked out from the Champions League in the Quarter finals for the second year in a row

Previously ,the Premier League wasn't priority.

It's as clear as daylight.

ollah2:
Did you call Ancelotti for been sacked despite inheriting a double winning bayern team?

Did you call Mou a fraud for getting bounced by Sevilla despite the huge margin in their spendings?

Oga, get your English in order when you type. You are supposedly a graduate. That first sentence is atrocious and I don't normally respond to invalid statements.

Secondly, this argument is not about Ancelotti or Jose. Pep has outspent everybody and he is rightfully the focus of our discussion. If you can't put up any kind of defense in his favor instead of pointing to others as justification for his goofs, do us all a favor and don't contribute.

Pep is halfway to being embarrassed by Klopp who hasn't spent nearly half as much as your god. Last season he lost to Monaco on the way to finishing trophiless. Deal with that instead of looking elsewhere.

ollah2:
Why didnt Mou win the UCL ar Madrid and Chelsea despite spending more monies at those clubs than his tenures at Porto and Inter ?

What's the sense and logic behind this half-assed questions?

Someone won the league on a meager budget with Porto and you are questioning his stints elsewhere.

Pep has not proved he can win the Champions League with nobodies like Jose did, yet you are bringing Jose into this argument.

At least Pep sent himself on exile when Jose battered the points tally record in Spain.

Ibime:
No mind that clown. I just dey read his half-baked analogies.

Fergie would only break the bank for few first teamers. Fergie teams always contained the Solskjaers, Ronny Johnsens, David Mays, Roy Keanes, Park Ji Sung, Schmeichel, Vidic, Evra, Rafael, Fabio, Sheringham, Denis Irwin, Cantona etc who he bought for relative peanuts. Ocassionally he would the break the bank for Veron, Ruud, Rio, RVP etc. . . but he would only make one big signing per season usually.

Them want compare to Fraudiola than will sign 5 or 6 blockbusters per year, but gets disgraced when not afforded the opportunity to have 11 blockbusters like last season.

I thought we were the only ones who saw them.

But some other people say he has "strong logic". You bandy figures about without any facts and you want folks to believe you.

Meanwhile, Oga Ibime, No remix for yesterday?

Oasis007:


Man City want a Title bigger than the League Cup, FA Cup as well as the EPL Trophy. They want to win UCL Trophy, and that's the Reason Pep is hired, trusted and completely given freedom to spend as much as he can to get the Dream realized!

What has Pep achieved so far that distinguishes him from his predecessors - Mancini and Pellegrini precisely?! Winning the EPL this Season for Man City won't make him "special" in the History of the Club, cos he's not the first and certainly won't be the last to lift the EPL Trophy for the Club.

Pep is a good Tactician, and I'm a huge Fan of his philosophy, but he needs to prove his Stints at Barcelona ain't fluke. He failed to lift UCL Trophy at Bayern despite inheriting a UCL winning Squad. He's also failing to beat the UCL Record set by Pellegrini, his immediate predecessor, thus tagging him a FLOP ain't over-emphasized.

Mou, though I ain't a Fan of his Tactics and Philosophy, has proven himself with Porto as well as Inter Milan in the UCL, hence until Pep lifts the UCL Trophy with another Club, he and Mou ain't Mates.

Excellent post.

Pep is about to get bounced to a Liverpool squad on a fraction of his transfer purchase this season.
But our resident Pep stan wants force us to believe that Pep is bothering himself with the second leg of that tie where his is three down with a leaky defence as his alibi.

The same Pep who couldn't live up to the standard set by an old man Jupp Heynckes.

Pep is a Fraud.

No Messi, no champions league for him.

afrodoc2:
That best team he was adding to was built from young talent, he didn't have to win tranfer market to develop that same best team he was adding to.

He did it at Aberdeen, carrying young players to topple the Rangers/Celtic hegemony and finally rod Real Madrid and Bayern Munich in the Cup Winners Cup.

Put some respek on his name, and swallow your 10yrs of Ls in peace.

Hahahahaha

10 years of Ls: na curse?

Did he break a mirror or walk under a ladder? Abi did he see a black cat?

Lol

See how he avoided the first part of your summation about Fergie not topping the spending chart till 2001.

This is the same fellow who said United never had an inferior side to any premier league rival apart from 2013 title winning side.

airmark:
He relaxed after sodomising him home and away last season to win the league, and his new players refused to gel with old ones this season.

At least give him credit.
He is not using the hairdresser's theorem to argue today.

Cruxifizio:
Chaiiiii.....I didn't see this day coming.... we now have another dayo in eru.ditor.....why??

This one pass me.

I can understand trying to defend one's position, but this one is so ridiculous, I actually want to start hating myself for even engaging the fellow.

The dude claims to be an Eruditor, but I pity the fools he thinks he is schooling.
Those ones go be Microsoft certified olodo.

Cruxifizio:
Please this was the question that started everything.....no one should allow eruditor deviate from the answer he responded with earlier....cuz I no understand this dayos clone


Cc afrodoc2 Oasis007 capitalcee etc

Bros, don't hold your breath on that one.

Leave him.

He has tied himself in so many torturous knots that he doesn't know which one he is presently trying to undo himself from. See how he is jumping from point to point like a cat on a hot tin roof.

afrodoc2:
Erudite nonsense.

We showed with net spend that Pep was no 1 while Ferguson was no 6 and no 3, he changed shape to total spend.

We showed with total spend that Pep was still a bigger spender than Ferguson compared to contemporaries, he changed shape with pre-EPL spending.

Now we have shown with pre-EPL that Pep was even a much bigger spender, i expect another shape change.

Gentlemen we are combating an amoeba here. While Dayo merely turns amala, this one extends and retracts pseudopods.

Na Loki incarnate on Nairaland be dis.

Shape shifting per excellence.

At this rate I can't wait to see his performance in Avengers Infinity War.

joeace2020:
How they arrived at a Kane fee. Erudition how do you arrive at yours?

He arrived at his by virtue of being unable to defend Peps spending and nothing more.

Just the innate need to defend his Fraud Lord and nothing more

Eruditor:
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What you should ask is..the endorsement deals or the prize money for the Olympics etc is it the same today as it was in 1988?

The joke is on you trying to take us back in time to make a point.
Those figures were the going rates for their time.
Till you tell us how they correlate with mathematical logic, you are polluting cyberspace with your talk.

Eruditor:
The figure that was coughed out for VVD is equivalent to what Fergie did to Leeds: Broke a world record for a defender.

Your logic gets worse by the post.

So Ben Johnson in 1988 would shatter the 100m world record today, by your own logic?

Cruxifizio:
Mind you this was the first post you reacted to below....

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You have failed to come up with a direct answer for the bolded rather you have been caught picking random names and attaching fictitious market figures to your claim without any mathematical proof to back your claims up.

If i ask you how much a 57mil or 60mil pounds ibrahimovic who Pep bought in 2008 will cost in todays market......what will be your response?

Dani alves in 2008 for 32mil will cost how much today?

How much will a 40mil David villa cost in todays market?

How much will an injury free 29year old Henry's 16.1mil pounds,arsenal legend cost your darling club in todays market?


I will like to see the figures you will attach to these names in todays market....

It's all these ones who started watching History channel overnight and feel they are intelligent this morning.
The hypocrisy in basing an argument on fictional logic and warped conjecture is what I don't get.

Attach a function, equation, any mathematical index to tell us how you arrived at your position. Mba.

Instead they are turning car salesmen and telling us how a 504 will not cost the same today.
Even salesmen will do s better job at explaining how they got to their figured

Eruditor:
So who will take you seriously when you say Fergie spent only £500M in his 26 years at United when Juxtaposing with today's market? A player of Vidic's calibre would he be bought for £7M today?

If you want to know what he would cost, then simply find out how much the top defenders cost today. QED.

That is your opinion.
You can fück it in the asś for all I care.
Tell us how you arrived at your figures or end this stale drivel

joeace2020:
No one can tell me what i see is black when it is red. They spent over £200 million to revamp their academy and make it one of the best in the world, their youths haven't be doing badly at their level. You'd expect a manager who people say is wonderful with young players to atleast have brought one through that is even making cameos match after match.. The zinchenko we were having hope on is now looking like an abandoned experiment, diaz, adarabioyo and the rest know their fate already. Mctominay ended the match yesterday but Mourinho is the youth killer. I guess when they mean young players when speaking of fraudiola, they weren't talking of academy players, just some £50 mil+ young players.

Leave the Pep fanboys to be yarning opaks

When we see facts we call them.

Pep was lucky to encounter Messi. He hasn't won the Champions league without him, but we are supposed to bow down and lick his feet.

The youths in City have no hope of breaking into the first team and establishing themselves.

Pogba Lingard McTominay Rashford all played yesterday.

No youth player even made the bench for City yesterday

Eruditor:
It is justified conjecture.

Maradona was bought for £5M in 1984 (before WC 86 so fully in his prime). That was a world record fee. Only a mischievous person will now say the Napoli coach never spent as much as Allegri to win a title seeing that Higuain was bought for £75M in 2016.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/napoli/story/3060404/diego-maradona-cost-twice-as-much-as-cristiano-ronaldo-ex-napoli-president

Oga please conjecture cannot be the basis for any factual argument.
I cannot take you seriously on the basis of conjecture and random comments based on emotion.

If you can't prove this assertion with mathematical facts then let's drop this because you are beginning to sound funny

joeace2020:
Stop trying to clever by half, he didn't start winning trophies in England from 1999, for christ sake he had won the league in 92/93, 93/94, 95/96, 96/97, 98/99. and the FA cup about four times before 1999. That is total dominace. His sheer class was there for all to see so you can't even say were where they last season? They were winning as well and winning the hearts of people with a team comprising academy stars who were being unearthed at an alarming rate. Fraud master had an open chequebook, won't even play the kids and now he's the best thing since sliced bread.

Don't mind them.

They say he gives youth a chance. He has ditched the Zinchenko experiment already. Or maybe his youth policy is based on spending ridiculous amounts on unproven young players and misusing them (e.g £50 million on Sterling to play as striker, £47 million on Stones to sit on bench,£57 million on Laporte to play left back)

None of his starting or bench players who featured yesterday came from the said academy.

Pep is a scam

raumdeuter:
When Ferguson won the treble in 1999 can we Also ask why he didn't win it in 1998, 97 96 etc

Bro It doesn't have to come to this.

Fergie won three doubles between 1994 and 1999.

If Fergie took the FA Cup a lot more seriously we won't be having this debate.

Eruditor:
If you were getting the gist of the convo your questions will be redundant.

Fergie yanked RVP for £24M. Today that is like getting Salah or Kane on the last year of their contract. He would have paid at least £60M.

Wayne Rooney at £30M+ 2004 will be 2.5 times with English hype.

I can go on and on. That £500M he spent in his whole career would easily surpass £2B in today’s market.

Except that you haven't managed to tell us how you arrived at your conclusion.

Your post is based on nothing but pure conjecture.

No facts, stats figures, indices.

Eyah

These Pep fanboys are crying hard.

The Pep fanboys can't defend his massive spending so they set out to diminish Fergie and rope him into the spending argument.

The Pep fanboys can't understand how his expensively assembled defense is shipping in goals by the truckload so they throw in Rio for £30 million in 2002, and try with warped logic to say it would cost £1 billion to sign said defender. With no correlation to any mathematical indices whatsoever.

The Pep fanboys crew can't understand why after so much spending he can't take City past the quarters of the CL in successive seasons despite his successor losing by 1 goal to the eventual champs in the semis of the same competition.

His Royal Spendthrift Cheque Fraudiola

Next season na to spend die.

odizeey:
if there is any justice in the fifa awards de gea suppose chop world best o.

But you know Manuel Neuer who has been injured all season will still win the award for best goalie even when it is clear de Gea is far ahead of him

joeace2020:
Let's just leave it sha. We are on course to end 2nd, top four virtually sealed. Let's just enjoy it and not moan all the time.

I'm not taking any sides.
I'm only saying we should apply context in our criticism.
Nobody is exempt from criticism. But it should be done with perspective.

Jose needs to change his attitude to some of these games if we are going to become contenders.

afrodoc2:
They are internet chairmen. Even those living in face me i face and whose closest contact with Old Trafford is touching their TV screens have the unmitigated gall to be calling others fake fans and small boys.

I think it's sad that things have degenerated to this level among us.
It's totally uncalled for and very unnecessary.

We don't need to name ourselves in derogatory terms just to prove our points.

Unfortunately we live in a my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours society so most of these debates are ego driven.

Instead of celebrating a noteworthy and almost unexpected win vs the top dogs on their own patch, we are in the trenches sniping at each other and spoiling a what is supposed to be a good evening.

Seriously if anyone says De Gea is at par with any other goalie in this world, I will swear for that person.

I remember someone on this thread blaming him a while ago for a free kick he conceded vs Siggurdsson and saying Romero was better.

That person knows who he is.

joeace2020:
Shove it up your ass...Alex Ferguson won the league with 18 points difference against Arsenal in 2000. Pep has done nothing special

You dey mind that shape shifting fact twister?