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jey4all:
Trousers are allowed in the US and Uk because of the cold over there. Use your brain

You and all the brain-dead sheeple who liked your post deserve to die by flinging you into the sea with millstones around your necks.

Lol.

The Mavin experiment turned out to be more hype than substance. Artistes whose resumes are filled with one-hit wonders and nothing more since it began

D'Banj on his own just got lost in the music game.

Both need each other. But this is nothing more than a nostalgia tour. Nostalgia acts don't seem to pull crowd in Nigeria.

slimghost:
So UEFA winners cup and supercup is now UCL? . smh.

Just the same way that the UCL existed in Fergie's time before he joined us, ba?

And while you're at it, please point to the European exploits of the people whose causes you are championing.

I knew you would miss my point of my post. But carry on. whatever suits you.
Have a great day.

While you keep looking at the likes of Poch and Conte and some non-descript coaches who have yet to make their mark I am telling y ou that Fergie had an impressive resume before joining United.

But we only see what we want to see to force our point across.

Oga please e don do.

eph12:
Hope you also remember you brought up this debate yourself some days ago.

How do you expect the striker to score as much as others that have their teams defending from the attacking position? You have a higher chance of scoring when you force opposition teams to make mistakes close to their goal.

Thanks to some pundit's logic, we can say that Mo' Salah is better than Messi, just as Glenn Murray is better than Lukaku.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5845925/lionel-messi-mohamed-salah-jurgen-klopp-stats-barcelona/

slimghost:
Did Ferguson reach a UCL final before we brought him in?
I just gave you names of 3 managers with huge potentials. Even Marcelo Gallardo too can take this team forward.
Mourinho might end up winning a couple more trophies but there is nothing progressive nor long-term in what I is building.
Anybody who still thinks the scam can take this team to the promised land is living in a fool's paradise.

Oga go an revise this post.

Fergie won a European trophy with ABERDDEEN. Frickin' ABERDEEN of Scotland.
Beat Bayern and Real along the way.

Make of that what you will. He could not have been said to be up and coming by the time he arrived at United. He even managed Scotland in the World Cup in 1986 in an interim basis.

Poch and Conte don't even know what a European final smells like, not to talk of being in one. Klopp is a serial final loser.

All these potentials you are calling upanadan are just that: potential.

DISCLAIMER: this is in no way any kind of support for Jose. Let's not get carried away when we are debating just because we see things a certain kind of way.

Thanks

eph12:
Are you seriously going to argue the new coach angle?

According to e******o, if a youngster plays the last 10 minutes of the last game of the season and scores, he is better than every other player because of his goal per match rating

Lol.

And some people who failed nursery one will be telling us how to apply logic.

When you base all your punditry on stats. This is the kind of hogwash one will be putting their eyes through.

balmofgilead:
At least he is 'sweet tongued'unlike you whose tongue is bitter and filled with bile.all you and your likes do is badmouth but if someone calls you names you will not take it.mind ur business and make sure you dnt miss jesus when he comes.

Please don't infect me with your inate and DNA-ingrained stupîdity this early morning.
At least wait till afternoon before you try.

I normally don't respond to invertebrates but for you I will make this one exception.

weedtaker:
Lol, he still has more goals than de bruyne, erikson, ozil, mhikitaryan, willian and ali,

as if positioning and shooting technique no join for football.


well


Einsteins will always be Einsteins

Lol

If Einstein was like you the square root of zero will be 1



Most of those people you listed will basically walk into any top side in the world because they are doing a whole lot more for their sides.
Is Jesse Lingard that good? At the height of his rich vein of form Lingard was basically an active runner and nothing more.

patrickmuf:
Very useless, only thing he's got is good shooting technique and sometimes, positioning otherwise he is the perfect representation of a headless chicken, he beats Pedro to it...

Lol.

Judging by some failed pundit's view, at the start of the season, Man United fans and supporters worldwide were expecting a 20-goal season from Jesse Lingard.

But it is Lukaku preventing him from hitting that mark because prior to his arrival Lingard was supposedly "on the up" in terms of goal scoring.

The type of lies one reads here, I'm sure Satan is expecting somebody and reserving space for that person in the lake of fire.

MuttleyLaff:
Its not just the internet or the elephant who dont forget

He could have come out to say that after reflection, he will no longer give a robust reply
that as far as he is concerned he isnt anymore going to comment on the issue any further
and that would have put a final nail to the matter's issue and settled it

For me his pride and arrogance is nauseating and disgusting.
He trivialized the whole matter with that stupïd remark about a robust reply when there is a more pressing issue: the state of the girl's soul.
He has had his way and sees no need to repent publicly in spite of the shame he brought to the body of Christ.
And someone still believes we shouldn't talk about a "man of God"

Sigh. The ignorance in some of these social centers is one reason why Fulani herdsmen are roaming freely.

MuttleyLaff:
https://gifyu.com/images/MuttleyDico.gif
Condemned and reprimand
virtually means the same thing

I stopped responding to that vain know-it-all when he started trying to lecture me in what he doesn't even know. He doesn't even know what he's talking about but sees the need to educate me on something he is clearly lacking.
Twisting words to suit his weak narrative and did position on that fraudster.
Paul called Peter out publicly and addressed his hypocrisy in spite of Peyer's standing as head disciple.
Yet this fellow feels we are "judging" when it is obvious that Fatoyonbo is a liar and a scam.
He went to the air conditioned church and forgot that he earlier wrote a balanced post correctly calling out that worldly show off pastor.

VolvoS60:
^^^^
No sir.

I am no Bible scholar but I remember reading that the woman who was caught in adultery was commanded to "go and sin no more" when her accusers had all left.

In your own words above, David, after his repentance, became a man after God's own heart.

Do you see the themes at work here?

Acknowledgement of error.

Contrition. Repentance.

Redemption.

Not stony silence or indifference. Or even worse, platitudes about things being "between them and God" . As some other posters have pointed out here, the members of the Church are accountable to one another - and yes that includes the pastor - if anything he/she should even be held to a higher standard. To say otherwise is to mislead the flock.

Thank you sir.
You have put it better than I ever could have.

When people refuse to hold each other accountable for whatever reason, it gives rise to irresponsible Christianity like the one peddled by Fatoyinbo and his ilk. The one where the loss of a soul no longer has any impact or profound meaning. Only how to "move forward" in life.

Ese Walter has denounced Christianity because of this supposed pastor. One person is still praying for her instead of urging the delinquent pastor to go and make amends with her. He is telling us about "judging" when the loss of a precious soul should be paramount.
And we wonder why no one takes us seriously.

emmanok24:
We look for excuses to justify wrongdoings of supposed men of god.
All will be well.

Exactly.
These charlatans always have acolytes and sympathizers who will always have a reason for justifying their mentor's behavior
Sheeple indeed

StarUp:
Call Fatoyimbo whatever you want to, one thing I know is that he is loaded with another level insight of God's word and you can't take that away from him: that's what makes him thick (despite he is not my kind of pastor).

He is not loaded with anything
He is a self absorbed, materially vain, sweet-tongued rogue familiar with a few bible verses and masquerading as a man of God.
He never goes into any kind of critical depth. Always telling stories that no one can corroborate.
He is the embodiment of the false prophet Paul warned about who has sweet words to match the itchy ears of his congregants

Your type will easily miss Jesus when he makes his second coming.

traeces:
I am baffled as to how you arrived at your deductions from what I wrote but I respect the fact that you have a right to your opinion. As for me, I have come to know that I have no right to condemn another man's servant. (Rom 14:4). If regardless of who he is or what he has been accused of, God has chosen to bless me through him, I will be foolish to close my heart to the blessing. Scripture is replete with instructions on this very matter and it was in the light of those scriptures that I looked away from what I thought of Fatoyinbo and saw him as a man first and foremost.
As for ESE Walters, I have always respected her courage and it breaks my heart to know she has backslidden from the faith but even then, I can only put her in my prayers.

So what right did Paul have to condemn Peterfor still holding on to things like circumcision and refusing to associate with Gentiles?
All these are excuses. what happened to his "robust response"?
Like I said, you as a fellow brethren has a duty to keep your brother in check when he errs. You have a responsibility to tell your brother/sister where they have erred especially when it is crystal clear they are in the wrong. Pastor Fatoyonbo is not excluded.
If you don't get this point I can't help you sir.
No matter how you put her (Ese) in your prayers, until Pastor makes peace with her, nothing will be done.

afrodoc2:
Lol you can't make this shyte up.

The same Mourinho that is begging Fellaini to extend contract is now the one saying players are afraid to receive the ball?

Apart from Smalling is there any other United player more afraid to receive the ball than Fellaini?

And why would they even be comfortable receiving the ball when most of what they do in training all week long is defending and stopping the opponent?

Anyway we have seen this movie before, just before he leaves or gets booted out he turns on his own players.

I'm embarrassed for the guy.
His ego is obviously out of control. No matter how you try to spin this it still comes as being ridiculous at the very least.

You can't defend this anyhow you try to

raumdeuter:
If you dont know what extra work means then ask people who know.

Things like hold up play, like linkup play and defending from top

I'm with you on this Lukaku issue.

You don't have to explain anything to anyone on this matter.

Lukaku doesn't have a penalty goal to his name this season, but failed pundits are saying Glenn Murray has a better goal per minute ratio that him, in spite of playing nearly a thousand minutes less and scoring only 11 goals all season yet he expects us to take him seriously. They are redefining what heat maps mean. All to avoid saying they were wrong.

I still hate your guts though.

Skimpledawg:
Are you back from the dead?

Just checking on you and your usual litany of failed prayers.

Like I said earlier the offer for a free bottle of Hero lager still stands so far you will rethink your calling in life, as pastor hood no be am for you

Back from the dead? You must take this trolling very seriously.

You're even more delusional than I give you credit for. I last posted here Sunday evening. I have been in virtually non stop motion from Sunday evening till Thursday when I also quipped in.Some of us don't have the luxury of loafing around these pages on a daily basis. Please get that clear. If less than a week is your range of time for you to classify me as returning from the dead then you don't even deserve to be responded to.

Thank you

traeces:
Biodun Fatoyinbo first came to my notice after Ese Walter's revelation and I carefully following the story and dropped my opinion on it in a nairaland post of August 2013. See the post :www.nairaland.com/1414171/ese-walter-coza-pastor-biodun

After passing my "judgement" in that opinion and waiting for years for the "robust" reply from Fatoyinbo which did not come, I concluded the guy was not a christian. Anytime I heard someone attends Fatoyinbo's church, I put him or her in Fatoyinbo's category. I have 2 bosom friends who incidentally are cousins who attend the church and I remember expressing my disgust at one of them for attending COZA- Fatoyinbo's church.

However, on 3rd March 2018, I travelled from Benue to attend a program where Don Moen was ministering in Fatoyinbo's church. I arrived on an Okada too.

First thing I noticed was the coziness. I don't think any church any where in the world can ever be cozier. Fully air condition auditorium, completely rugged, giant sized electronic billboards, comfy chairs, state of the art sound system and music equipments, I can go on and on but I refused to be impressed.

While we waited for Don Moen to take the stage, young men and women attired in jeans trousers and unbottoned shirts with white t-shirts inside were ministering powerfully in songs BUT I COULDN'T BE BLESSED cos I was processing how some of them probably just left a bed of fornication to come to church in my poor mind. Then it hit me: I wasn't in any way better than anyone of them. Scripture after scripture jumped at my spirit and I became humble. One of the scriptures that came to me that helped me truly participate in that meeting was "Wherever two of you shall gather together in my name..." I reasoned that even if every other person here was not a christian, I was and Don Moen was so God was in the building.

My final "humbility" happened when Fatoyinbo took the mic. He spoke from a depth and with an auction I could tell was the Holy Ghost. I realized that day that Fatoyinbo may be guilty of everything ESE Walter accused him of but very importantly, I am no judge. It is between him and God at the end of the day. Who knows what "my own" man of God may be doing in secret that nobody knows-God forbid. In any case, I preferred one who kept quite in the face of such accusations to one who fabricated lies and did plenty things to cover up.

That was how I came to see Fatoyinbo as a brother in Christ and his church as a family of God upon the earth. Like all of us, he is a work in progress and not perfect but we must desist from seating as judges over his life or any other person's.

So after all your genuflecting and gerrymandering you still haven't asked your brother for his "robust response".

Nobody is judging him. Let him clear his conscience by telling us what went wrong with former Ese Walter. Remember that said subject has sadly denounced Christianity because of the actions of your brother the Reverend. That isn't important to you.

We as Christians have a duty from God to hold each other responsible and accountable for our actions. By this post you have abdicated that responsibility and you are facilitating and enabling irresponsible and shameful behavior of this charlatan who is more fluff than substance and is driven to his core by the intense materialism.

If you want, call him your brother. You are entitled to that right. But the foundation of the Lord standeth sure, the Lord knows them that are his. You are clearly moved by visual appearances hence your failure to perceive and deduce that Pastor is clearly using his office to satisfy his desires and you see nothing wrong with someone who is still yet to explain his actions nearly five years after he said he would. He was not forced to make that promise, he did on his own volition, yet it doesn't irk you as to why his yes is still yet to be yes.

This is the real truth here.

But the Prosperity Gospel proponents who believe you have to sow to be rich irrespective of the state of your soul (I.e. using the theory of "universal principles" to explain why unbelievers are rich and all that hogwash) and that enjoying earthly pleasures is a right for Christians will avoid the topic

Christ'smessage ab initio was a message of self-denial. His disciples even commented on the fact that they had left families to even follow him.

Thank you for this piece. The road to salvation is straight and narrow and few will be found in it. Those who don't understand the position of Christ in fulfilling the Law will come here and start talking what they don't know of.

Skimpledawg:
Chai, Chai... Even epa elamps wants to turn amala.


Who hath done this to Uncle elamps

Have you had your Hero today?

raumdeuter:
Yet you have been quoting me when you have nothing to say

And your point is. . .

raumdeuter:
The master class lecturer. If danteasdz capitalcee larride dopejemi bushwickbill and joeace catch you

Oga pls don't quote me or mention my name unnecessarily if you don't have anything to say.

Thank you

Dantedasz:
I don't get your point?
It appears you are cutting your nose to spite your face,if you are so happy and pleased that a club you claim to support has been knocked out of the Champions League.
SMH.

Seriously I don't get this "I told you so" approach

I don't understand a lot of things but this is truly puzzling.

elampiro:
Those wey wan do busy body for the matter na no even know ball sef.

You are the only one who knows ball. I throway salute, you this insecure little man.

Carry on, mr football.

I know olodos like us can't even compare to you when you megedefegede upandan.

Objective minds have read my post and either chimed in with their thoughts or left it alone. You decide to hurl insults maybe because you felt offended at a post that wasn't exactly aimed at anyone.

Mr I know ball. When you finish ranting you can go back to your lonely sociopathic life of ekwe sample and ukwu noise making.

elampiro:
Whatever. He clearly has improved much from that time.

No wahala.
Thanks

elampiro:
What is criticism meant for if not to make one improves?

Players must be criticized. Currently Pogba and Sanchez are receiving it. If they start playing fine tomorrow, you might come to say where are those who criticized them?

Lukaku was very poor that period. Not winning many earlier duels, not always running towards or in position to contest for them. Not able to hold the ball like he does now. Not able to make an accurate pass, not able to beat a man.

Mourinho probably worked on him and the critics should be praised.

Since this was addressed to me I thought I should reply.
Then I realized the post had me confused since I hadn't the faintest idea of what you are talking about.

Later. In no mood for epistles today sir.

CapitalCee:
Lol at people wasting their time on kokaneidiot paraganonentity.

Fixed

joeace2020:
Wow! You are really shameless stupîd moronic and demented. You are 6th, 8 points behind Chelsea of all teams, 12 behind Liverpool in fourth and you are bragging about how Mkhytaryan's performance today has you in one spot. An Europa league spot! You lot are truly brainless and deranged. Amazing

Fixed.

IkpuNnegiEwu44:
Nkita lacha gi anya. When did the universal Catholic church become d personal property of Mbaise idiots to the extend of rejecting a papal appointed Bishop?

Tell your prodigal Mbaise priests and politicians pushing you goats to go and open their own Mbaise church and do as they like. No pope, no Catholics will put mouth.

Ur brain is full of pap. Anofia!

Please leave that brain dead and deranged mor0n to be rambling like the mad man atUmuahia central market that he is.

The diocese is not the sole property of Mbaise people but in their usual colony mentality those rascally vermins will twist everything to suit them and want to hijack anything they come into contact with.

The sole decision to appoint bishop rests with the Vatican. The prerogative to consider the out going bishop's choice is theirs and is not subject to law.
It's as simple as that.

That transgender fowl that you are replying doesn't deserve the dignity of any response because it hasn't ventured beyond the borders of Mbaise land. Hence it's stark ignorance

writeprof:
Tribalism and ethnicity has been a part and parcel of the church in Nigeria be it Anglican, Catholic or Pentecostal.
As a young boy in the 1980s, I remember how some group of people from another tribe took cutlasses and cudgels to church to protest against tribalism in a particular Anglican church. That incidence and many others led to the Anglican having churches meant for some groups of people based on their tribes or language.
Another, one of my chaplain was rejected as a bishop in Osun state when he was promoted and posted there. He was a Yoruba man, the people insisted they wanted somebody from their tribe despite the fact that they were all Yorubas.
These things will not cease until the Church go back to God to lead and direct it affairs.

It was not meant to be so.
Jesus did not discriminate when choosing his disciples
That it happens all over the place does not verify or make it right.
We humans do not even love our family members let alone people from other tribes. Is it any wonder that God's power no longer is visible in his house?

DeviIhimself:
and the scumbags are happy and not ashamed of themselves

it's a pity i share the same faith with these scumbags

It's unfortunate

They don't realize the damage they are doing to the body of Christ. The same body that apostle Paul clearly states that there is no Jew nor Gentile, no Roman nor Greek

But these vermins are differentiating in between Igbo tribe. Anambra state is an odd 45 or so mins drive from Mbaise land yet they do not want anyone from outside their region to be a bishop.

DeviIhimself:
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Tufiakwa unu and you all call yourselves Christians
you guys are disgrace to Christianity and catholic church for disobeying the pope and catholic institution.
no wonder you guys are compared with snakes.
Bloody cannibals

It's the type of Christianity made in Mbaise. No surprises there.