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Sai anjimanku!

@ uyiiredia

That is you who serve God. There are those who worship idols and they are serving them in their own way. Nobody is forcing you to worship God in his/her own way. In fact, worship whatever you like, how you like and when you like. It is none of my business and never will it be.

@ image123

That is the problem with Nigeria/Nigerians. Does it require any preferential/special treatment between the members and the moderators just because the account life is in their (moderators) hands? Oh! I should ask for forgiveness.
Forgive me MISS/MRS jesould not to block my account.

@ jarus

Duk gamu nan kusa da kai. Yaya, akwai labarine?

Ina mai matukar farin ciki da wanna dandalin. Ina fata kowa da kowa lafiya. Wanna wata dama ce da muka samu don tattaunawa da kuma karawa juna sani. Nagode kuma ina mai matukar farin ciki.

Oh! Uh!

Anyway. I only said what I have to say about trinity and brought forward my reasons and my views. I did not mean to fight anyone here. If you like, be pro or anti trinity, and continue to believe in it if you like. That will NEVER be my problem. I rest my case here.

But remember, this case may be awaken if anybody try to talk rubbish to me.

@ jesoul

If you are not interested in discussing on this thread, you can go your way


@uyiiredia

Same to you at one hand, and on the other hand, how can you defend it? I know it is nowhere to be found in the Bible. Does that mean that you are serving God blindly or in your own way? I realized that there are many three in one god (s) Christians here.

@ xoxo


What is it?

In the Gospel of John, Jesus says:

"I can of mine own self do nothing; as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." [John 5:30]
Again, Jesus says that his power is not from him and in fact his self is powerless. What's more is that Jesus continuously mentions and emphasizes that it is the Father who has sent him. What is the purpose of mentioning such a thing over and over again? Is it for anything other than to show that the Father possesses the Ultimate Authority and were it not for Him, Jesus would not have been sent on this mission in the first place? In John 5:26, Jesus says, "For as the Father has life in himself; so hath He given to the son to have life in himself". My dear readers, can it become any more clearer? These are not my words but the words of Jesus, who testifies that it is the Father who has GIVEN him life.
So what else does Jesus say in regards to his position in relation to his Father? In the Gospel of Matthew it is stated,

And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." [Matthew 26:39]
This verse shows Jesus praying to his Father. The question is who is Jesus praying to if he is God? If he has the ultimate authority, then why does he look to someone other than himself? Do Gods pray? Can a God be in need? Again it is made decisively clear that Jesus differentiates between himself and his Father, and humbly presents his request to his Master, his God.


Doesn't this make Jesus a creature of God?

WITH ALL HOPE THAT AT THE END WE WILL UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER.

Jesus taught the oneness of God (Mark 12:29-30, Matthew 22:37 and Luke 10:27), as conveyed in the first commandment (Exodus 20:3). Nowhere did he declare the Trinity but I wonder why Christians of today subscribed to it and hold it with their strongest grip.

I have never met anyone who has understood the Trinity. Besides, all that a christian can offer is a false analogy. From this, all they show is the lack of understanding of what the Trinity is suppose to be. One may say with one's lips: 'I believe that God is one, and also three'--but no one can believe it, because the words have no sense.

Where did the Trinity come from? The Bible? NO! The word Trinity doesn't even appear in the Bible. The only other reference in the Bible to a Trinity can be found in the Epistle of I John 5:7, Biblical scholars of today, however, have admitted that the phrase ", there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" is definitely a "pious fraud", and it is not found in any of today's versions of the Bible.

It can, therefore, be seen that the concept of a Trinity of divine beings was not an idea put forth by Jesus or any other prophet of God. This doctrine, now subscribed to by Christians all over the world, is entirely pagan and man-made in origin.

Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost third. Each of these persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded from the Father and Son, but was equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say, before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two. So it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son and the Holy Ghost God, and these three Gods make one God. According to the celestial multiplication table, once one is three, and three time one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar: if we add two to one we have but one. Each one equal to himself and to the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity

Chakula you are right. Here are more proofs that Jesus is not God but a Man (Quotes from the Bible):

John 20:17
I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

If Jesus is God why do he still have God? Kai! Think well.

Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

John 14:28
My Father is greater than I.

John 8:40
But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

Colossians 3:1
Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

1 Corinthians 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

1 Corinthians 11:3
The head of Christ is God.

Acts 17:31
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

JESUS IS NOT GOD BUT A MAN (Like other Messengers/Prophets of God)

I since believe that those kidnappers mean no good to Nigeria and their localities. This is the same with most of our leaders/politicians of today. Nigeria is on the verge of sinking. We are on a sinking ship, where nobody cares for the others but himself alone and we are the authors of this tragedy. We all know the way forward (solutions to our problems) but we are deliberately deviating from it. Telling ourselves lies will NEVER take us to promise land.

Lets rethink Nigerians. Everyone of us has a role to play for the good of our country, our lives and those generations to come.

@ mazaje

Meaningful post and good response to comments. Keep it up.