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Am Alone:Anything pertaining to security of lives and properties should never be compromised. I laid off the second engineer working on my site for using substandard ratio of sand to cement all in the name of molding a certain figure from a bag of cement. I may not know much about building but when i see a sub-standard block and work i will definitely know. After his molding which takes time and man power you can't carry 2 blocks at a time as they break easily. So human life should never be quantify. |
Am Alone:Brother, i don't compromise quality and will never do cos the havoc will be more than the cost you are trying to cut. I'm only looking at it from the re-bagged seller's perspective saving so much money from re-bagged cement. |
kuntash:My dear brother, 200 naira in 10,000 bags of cement is 2million naira oooo, no wonder |
Am Alone:If the difference btwn the full bag and rebagged cement with the same quality and packaging is less than 500naira,i see that as waste of time for those that do that but on the other hand 200naira in 10,000 bags is money ooooo, dats 2m, no wonder they said small water makes a mighty ocean |
Looking at the stress,hazzle and time constraint, one will prefer buying an already built house but that is if you have the BULKY {KUDI,OWO or EGO} on ground. There was a time i hijacked my tiler form his house 6am and we both resumed on site that morning,i was there with him for 2 hrs and i saw how other people are calling him and you need to hear the gravity of the lies he gave them on phone. By 12pm i left the site and was stuck in Traffic along Sagamu-Ikorodu close to Laspotech. Could you believe the tiler left almost the same time i left the site and unknowingly to him he never knew there would be so much traffic. To cut the long story short i saw him on a bike and passed beside me, i was Stunned. If i should consider what he and other workers did,i will never advise anyone to build but its part of what we have to experience in life if you have to save every penny to build a house, They will make you sick but at the ned they make you laugh. |
spyder880:My dear brother, i just said something similar above. If you are buying a cheaper cement,i am 110% sure you are buying a re-bag Cement. Don't ask me how you will know if the Cement is a re-bag or not, just ask the seller. They knows it better, thats the Nigeria we are. |
@ Molarmos: The Cost of Cement is unstable especially in Lagos. And you will be surprise to see people selling cement between 1800 -2300 naira per bag. I am not too sure of the current price but the price varies wt respect to the type you are buying. Either lafarge, burham, dangote and others and if you think you are buying a Cheaper Cement, it may be a re-bag. So shyne your eyes well. Nigeria, |
kuntash:Yes im glued to Channels TV for this Election. There is a report of bomb blast in INEC Office @ Suleja killing some Corpers and waiting for more update from 10pm news, Lets stay focused on this thread, Its Property Section, lol |
spyder880:Dats a good one cos i also learnt its not all laborers that started the project will finish it { not by death} as some of them purposely delay your work so they can get paid on daily basis and buy more time. So at a particular stage of the construction,there needs to be a reshuffles, INEC and Police force did the same thing tooo, just joking |
Apollonio:Its True oo cos when one consider the cost of german floor and decking which is enough to build the whole house,many potential home owners will still be a tenant for years because of german floor and decking. But from spyder880's breakdown on german floor and decking,i believe its still affordable compare to what other dodgy builders will give you. There is no how they won't chop from you but it should be minimal |
spyder880:[b]The Project is along Ikorodu-Sagamu road and for security reasons those are the pictures i can provide for now as all other pictures have my contact numbers on them for interested occupants and don't want it to look like an advert here on NL. I couldn't take pictures from the foundation when i first started as the first engineer used molding blocks and the pictures didn't look presentable and neat to me so i didn't bother taking the Pictures while the second engineer did his job in archaic way before i later gave it to the 3rd engineer who did many corrections and did a neat job but i must tell you since i wasn't around to inspect the work,he first diverted my fund elsewhere before he later do the job when i am around. This is a lesson for our dear fellas in diaspora,apart from the site engineer,get a supervisor and also appoint someone as a supervisory supervisor if need be as the supervisor and the site engineer can't be trusted completely. I almost gave up building a brick water tank as you can see in one of the pictures but its unavoidable when i do not have the CASH at once. I will notify you when i am about to start the Second Project which is under Lagos State and arrangement for approval/COT is going underway.[/b] |
spyder880:I think this breakdown can do my decking; 1x12x12 planks 100 x 750 = N75k 2x3x12 poline 50 x 250 = 12,500 bamboo sticks = N5k nails (assorted) =15k rods (all types) =140k sand x 3 trips =15k gravel x 4 trips =48k cement x 70 bags x 1900 =133k transportation =20k labour for carpenters =60k labour for iron benders =25k labour for pouring =35k engineering supervision 15k entertainment after the decking 5k A total of N603,500.00. This is just the estimate, but I think it will cost a lot less, I was just being generous with this estimate. By the time I get down to the field and wear my haggling cap, prices will tumble. I will negotiate like a mad man and even go out to meet new suppliers and workmen. This decking must be done with N500k or a little more. I dove my hat for you oooo, lol. Do you know i have never heard of anywhere a decking was done for 600k before but seeing the above i believe its possible only if you know and understand the whole process,no bricklayer and carpenter can drain you, My 2 hands are up for you. If i may ask,is it the same laborers that started it will finish this job cos you must have cut down all their corny ways of embezzling the owner. |
waooooo. You have exercise so much patience. I hope and pray everything is sorted out soon. I commend your Patience |
A big thank you to am_ alone,syber008 and everyone that have contributed immensely to this thread. I have learnt a lot and also know the prices of so many building materials, This is the longest reading i have done in a long time.
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[b]Its a pity i can not estimate the total cost that finish this project as I changed the site engineer 3 times for one reasons to the other. First engineer used hand mold blocks which doesn't make the work smooth and wasted so much time molding the blocks and waiting for it to get dry, another used a substandard material and trying to cut cost and the last one did a neat and standard job but diverted my funds elsewhere before doing my job. All in all i learnt that it is advisable to be on your site almost everyday as am_ alone and syber008 have done if time permits you to monitor how things is been done or else ? Do not also trust a family member completely all in the name of helping you,either your brother,sister,uncle or anyone at all as most of them will stab you from behind. Thank GOD the project is now Completed and i have learnt so many lessons which can be averted when doing my second project. A 3bedroom bungalow which should cough a whooping sum between 3.5m - 5m depending on the type of interior,tiles,roofing {Aluminium or Slate} ,doors and so many other things according to the new site engineer xcluding gate and fence which has been done already. I will try and give the break down as soon as i commence next month {GOD's Willing} for us to share but i may not be able to completely answer so many questions spyder880,brabus and am_alone answered cos they have been in building project for long. When i told a friend how mush i spent on 14 coaches Perimeter fencing and the gate,he almost flogged me and that was part of the lesson i have learnt. I parted ways with the site engineer after i discovered how heavy i have been duped. Let us learn lessons from each other without hiding vital infos .[/b]
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This thread has been so interesting and educating and it took me almost the whole day to read through in and out. I had to skip some pages so i can make my contribution. I have learnt so many mistakes which i made in the past regards building from this thread and below is the picture of what the building looks like. Let us all learn from each other as most of the mistakes i made would have been averted if i have stumble across this thread but i must admit that i don't have the CASH ready at once which really affects the project as it took more than a year before it was completed. As one of the contributors to this thread rightly advice,it takes self denial and commitment before one can make savings to commence a project. To the guy that earn 80,000 as Salary, if you are committed and discipline,you will become a landlord in 2yrs.
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This thread has been so interesting and educating and it took me almost the whole day to read through in and out. I had to skip some pages so i can make my contribution. I have learnt so many mistakes which i made in the past regards building from this thread and below is the picture of what the building looks like. Let us all learn from each other as most of the mistakes i made would have been averted if i have stumble across this thread but i must admit that i don't have the CASH ready at once which really affects the project as it took more than a year before it was completed. As one of the contributors to this thread rightly advice,it takes self denial and commitment before one can make savings to commence a project. To the guy that earn 80,000 as Salary, if you are committed and discipline,you will become a landlord in 2yrs. |
hhhmmmm we human are bound to face some challenges in life but they are temporal. I do not know german007 and i'm nt here to defend anybody but its just unfortunate. I hope the issue has been resolved amicably. |
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[color=#550000][b]Features/Options: - Air conditioning - AM/FM stereo - Cassette player - CD player - Cruise control - Power steering - Power windows - Power seat -Power door - Traction Control - Fabric seats - Anti-lock brakes (ABS) - Dual front airbags - Front side airbags - Alloy Wheels - Sun roof - Automatic Transmission wt Auxillary gear - 6 Cylinder 3.5 Liter SE Asking - 1.7 obo Call Biola on 08059386600 or email calculusfowler1948 @ yahoo.com to make an offer. Front View Picture before Purchase.
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? Do not also trust a family member completely all in the name of helping you,either your brother,sister,uncle or anyone at all as most of them will stab you from behind. Thank GOD the project is now Completed and i have learnt so many lessons which can be averted when doing my second project. A 3bedroom bungalow which should cough a whooping sum between 3.5m - 5m depending on the type of interior,tiles,roofing {Aluminium or Slate} ,doors and so many other things according to the new site engineer xcluding gate and fence which has been done already.