malachi2uk:

I know you didn't see this one,please find time and because you don't know what the reply will mean to me and other newbie

I did answer that, go back to where the original post was made and scroll down a bit, you will see my response to the questions.

Hello everyone,

Hope you all had a nice sleep? As you wake up this morning, may all your good dreams wake with you and and follow you to fulfillment. We hope that the day will bring joy and peace!

Ladies and Gentle men - It time to sleep for tonight, tomorrow we shall continue by God's willing. Good night all.

Iytech: Mr Cameronese, Thanx again for your answers. You made mention of using escrow service for direct domain sales transaction, I just saw this on their site that Nigerians are not allowed there.

What countries does Escrow.com support?

Escrow.com currently supports transactions from all over the world. However, there is a small list of countries that we do not support. These include: Cuba, Indonesia, Iran (Islamic Republic of), Liberia, Libya, Moldova, Myanmar, Nigeria, North Korea, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Syria, and Zimbabwe.



What's your take on this?

You are talking about Escrow services provided by Escrow.com? It not necessary you use Escrow.com services any good domain market company provide Escrow services.

Escrow.com just happened to carry the name, it doesn't mean they are the only Escrow service provider

mikelreal: does it means once a new domain(no traffic, nothing) is parked in any register it is doomed n can never be auctioned/listed to sell it off or smetn?

You can sell, you can Auction but parking it for traffic monetization is useless. We are talking about parking not selling.

Iytech:


Mrnestyy, is it not possible to register fresh domains that are key-word rich, park, drive traffic to them with SEO tactics and make good money from them?

Do all that before parking it. Once you park a domain, you can't promote it in anyway and any kind. If you do, it could be a ground for getting your domain parking account terminated.

If you want to make legitimate and good money from parking domain, your primary focus must be on Expired and dropped domain with good existing traffic.

mrnestyy1985:

Only time will tell what will become of winerefinery....

No no no, I haven't said Your domain isn't good. I am only trying to tell you it doesn't have the keyword value you are accruing to it. At this time, it doesn't fall under Keyword-Rich-Domain. Generic?? Yes

mrnestyy1985:

All the info you provided i knew. , visit my previous post from the begining and you will see were i explained it all. I mean the keyword search and the google search return. From my refered post, i didnt say winerefinery returned over 2million keyword search.

Pls stop confusing search result to Keyword search -

You know that search result is irrelevant to your keywords right? Then why did you registered WineRefinery.com based on the search result you get? Knowledge is good but you need to be humble to acquire it.

Iytech: Big Thanx to Mr Cameronese for all the great lights you have been giving. Pls I need you to answer these few questions.

Apart from selling domain names, Parking could be another good income earner, what parking companies pay the best for parked domains?

I registered some good domain names on godaddy but have not listed nor parked them anywhere. I'm yet to register with godaddy auction but I think I can advertise and get some interested buyers, will godaddy do sales business this way if I bring in buyers from outside? Will the commission of godaddy be different in this case?
Thanks

Pls understand that The Domain name is your property, therefore you are independent investor. Godaddy has no hold nor say about where and how you sell your domain or who you 'bring' to buy your domain irrespective of the fact that it is registered in their platform which is a privilege you gave them.

You are free to source for any buyer if you so wish. If you get a buyer, you may even cut off Godaddy completely and use Escrow directly. If you choose Godaddy to handle the transaction, fine, they will never charge you higher commission in anyway.

Update:-

Parked.com is one of the best parking company and pays higher than others but they have blocked services to Nigeria due mediocrity of Nigerians. Sedo is the next in command in terms of pay per click but lack quality landing pages.

Bodis has exciting landing pages good for domain display but doesn't pay enough.

FastPark is great too. So I recommend Sedo and FastPark, you can use Bodis as alternative.

mrnestyy1985:

I wanna learn Sir. Update my bible knowledge

Good Boy!

Now this is what happened -

A) When you typed Wine Refinery on Google and hit search, Google returns results as follows:

(1) Wine Refinery

(2) Wine

(3) Refinery

(4) Winery

(5) Refine.

Any place on the internet where any of these words is mentioned, Google returns it as part of your result. You can imagine how many times Refinery has been mentioned online? You can imagine how many times Wine has been mentioned online?? Out of the 2million plus search result you get, the actual result for your Keyword (Wine Refinery) is less than 50.

B) Search result is irrelevant is this regard because it refers to usage rather then search. Search is what everyone is looking for, not usage.

I hope it helps

mikelreal: I opened an account with afternic, doe not with my Nigeiran i.p or details, n I listed my domain successfully, doest it mean my account will be closed?

Your listing at this point in time is peripheral. You need to upgrade to premium (Sale Accelerators) The Sales Acceleration program creates a landing page on your domain with direct links to their sales force so that anyone that visits your domain can have instant access to a dedicated sales professional. They'll also include relevant pay-per-click advertising links on the page so that you can make money while your domain is listed for sale.

mobiss: @cameonese,pls kindly help wt ds Q's. Am trying to register on godaddy via my phone browser and I keep encountering problem of creating acct as d link create account doesn't go. So can I reg try cybercafe and later continue my domain bizness on my phone? Coz i learnt change in IP add gives problems wt acct.Or can I get a godaddy application on google market dt will make it easier to register with? Thanks

Godaddy form is working but the form used to popup. Maybe your mobile browser doesn't support popup. Go to CAfe and complete your registration

bomking4x:

Do you have an account with sedo or afternic because they blocked my account after registration

Sedo requires that you download the Terms of use or services Agreement and sign then send back to them. If you fail to do that after sometime they may close the account as unverified. To quality to sell or park with Afternic, you need to pay for premium membership, it not they may close the account after some time. These the two possible reasons your account was closed.

Imanuelle:


please,
my first question ...
what is the disadvantage of using my Nigerian address to register on godaddy?
Would it really affect sales?

Nigerian address doesn't affect sales negatively after all Escrow is there to do the transaction magic though people could be sentimental at times but over all it doesn't affect. I only used USA address once and that was in 2007 when I entered domain newly and having difficulty in making payments. I have been using Nigerian addresses for more than five years now and have sold hundreds of domains.

Your emphasis should be on the quality of your domain, not the address. ICAAN considers it illegal if you use inaccurate information in your domain registration. Use your Nigerian address nothing do you!

bomking4x:

All are not even upto $10, so no shaking

I heard from my Oga at the Top that both marijuana,vapor,pot and cannabis are the current tredind domain names and that USA legalized marijuana recently. That's y I registered megacannabis and vaportrust.
Vikline is for any kind of business.

Very funny...

Except you have the exact phrase, Registering Trend domain in "Vertical" is the easiest way to loose money because they always end up in the scrap heap. I will give you guys some tutorials on qualities that make good domains later.

bomking4x:

You are right my brother,100 bucks is k for me at the moment. I have the followings domains,please analyze them and tell me what you think
VaporTrust
MegaCannabis
Vikline all in dot com

I am sorry to tell you this but I don't know how you will take it? Ok first, what is the purpose you registered these names??

dotcom_na_me_na_me:

Thank you, but since you said i can list my domains for sale in multiple domain marketplaces, does that means i must also change my nameserves from my registrar to each marketplaces, or only just one.. Currently i only changed my registrar namesevers to one marketplace.. Will other marketplaces require me to change my registrar nameservers to theirs before they can list my domains for sale?

You set your domain name server only one at a time. However, Casual listing doesn't require change of nameserver.

List your domain on one marketplace, preferably the one that offers parking services (Sedo) to enable you monetize your traffic while you wait for the sale. Then list the same domains on other marketplaces to be available on search only.

You can also list in domain forums, this way, you are giving it maximum exposure. Who sells first gets the commission.

dotcom_na_me_na_me:


My last question is, as i believe ''Buy Now'' sells faster than Auctions, but some are claiming Auction sells faster than Buy Now. Which one u think its sells most?

That purely depends on personal experience which can be influenced by the quality of the domain placed for sale. No domain broker will hold back your domain once there is serious buyer.

E.g: Most of domains sells faster with Moniker.com than Afternic even though Afternic is more aggressive in domain sales

You can list your domain for sale in multiple domain marketplaces. These days, domain sells very fast in Domain Forums, faster than any other market places, try it

Update: Sorry you mean setting your domain for "Buy Now" against Placing it to "Auction" ?

Auction is a different thing all together, you should be comparing "Buy Now" with "Make Offer" not "Auction"

Answer: Domains placed in Auction sells within days even hours but you must be willing to accept whatever the last bit is, even if it's less than the worth

dotcom_na_me_na_me:


cameronese, what is the useful of this software? http://www.domainsoftware.org/files/expired_domains_setup.exe

My last question is, as i believe ''Buy Now'' sells faster than Auctions, but some are claiming Auction sells faster than Buy Now. Which one u think its sells most?

The software goes to who.is database and scoop domains that are "Pending Delete" so you can analyze before it is finally deleted.

malachi2uk:

Thanks for the question once again,please can you still explain the below questions as am a newbie.

A)can you please throw more lights on Google PR, best back links and GPR

B)since good domain names are registered within split-seconds of dropping,won't all the good ones be registered before someone can analyze GPR,back links and ETC or do you minding telling us how to analyze them faster

Bi)which site can someone find good dropping domain names( I know GOOGLE is my friend but you are my best friend now)

C)please don't forget the other ways you can help me about the SEOMOZ

D)we will discuss about the training

2sexy I hope you are learning new things

A) PR is Page Rank, the same as GPR (Google Page Rank). Google uses Different Algorithms to assess and rank websites, from 1 - 10. The higher a domain is ranked the better the traffic. This only apply to expired domain names.

You don't wait until domain dropped before analyzing it. There are different stages domain go through before finally dropping, you start your analysis few days before it drops at the "Pending Delete" stage.

B) There is no site where you can get already dropped domains that are good. The chance will be too negligible. Use this software http://www.domainsoftware.org/files/expired_domains_setup.exe to scoop the domain shortly before it expires.

webpower84: Yes was sold where i parked it and the funds now are with escrow . They told me to unlock the domain and send them the code before they will pay me

If your money is with the Escrow then you are safe, contact Escrow too to confirm before starting the domain transfer. Do it fast!

webpower84: Very happy now dat this thread is now been filled with more mature and humble ones. I have been into domaining 4 some time now but not making big money with parking so i lose interest on it, but just last week, i received an email from where i parked the domain that one of my domain has been sold. Pls what's the best way for me to receive my payment here? Ehmm, 2 sexy try to be humble , we are all human beings and we can still meet anywhere

Was it sold directly by your parking company? You need to act fast before the sale is revoked. Once you confirm from your parking company that the domain has actually been sold (make sure you confirm from them because domain fraudsters uses this means to hijack new peoples domains) login to your account and review your payment options.

samee72: Hello House, I've also been following this thread for two months now trying to learn Domain business, i even bought some eBooks online but the problem with those eBooks is that the writers are not Nigerians nor based in Nigeria so i need information on this business from the Nigerian perspective, i tried to ask 2sexy some questions he answered my first question but ignored the last message i sent him and came here to say no body should send him p.m, if we have any question we should post it here @ 2sexy i sent you a private message because you said you don't like answering questions here because of information marketers.....anyway @ cameronese pls i will appreciate if you can attend to me and also mentor me on this business, i'm yet to start but i've be learning about it my questions are when i want to open an account with any of the sites like sedo.com, flipper.com and godaddy can i use my Nigerian IP? when i'm registering a domain name do i register it with a Nigerian address or foreign address? I remember reading on this thread that when registering the domain name one should register with a foreign address because of whois address, i don't understand this i need more clarification here, also i need to know do i buy a domain name before registering it or i should just create a name and register it? i will appreciate it if either cameronese or any of the willing gurus in the house can help me out with these questions. I'm actually on my way out of the country right now so i guess it won't be a good idea to open an account while away because of the foreign ip if i'm supposed to use a Nigerian ip. thanks Pls @ cameronese check your mail box, i've just sent you a P.M

You have no problem with Nigerian IP as far as Domain Business is concerned. Yes, services like Parked.com has blocked their site to Nigeria but there are still hundreds of other parking companies out there. You can register with any domain company at any time and change your address at anytime you want it. Sedo has no problem with Nigeria likewise Godaddy.

The terms "Buying" and "Registering" domain names are used interchangeably by domainers, they mean the same thing in most cases. You can buy a good domain name from existing owner if it is cheap or you brainstorm and register new one.

It doesn't matter where you are going, you can always update your address in your profiles. I can't read the message you sent, you may resend it to admin[at]palness.com

malachi2uk:

Thanks for granting my humble request
Am a newbie,please don't be offended on some of my questionm

A) can you explain how I can select maybe 2 or 3 good domain of out 40-50 dropped domain.

B) which do people always register a dropped domain because I think if they were good,they owner would have sold them before they expire

C) can you help me with your seo software u use in place of google key word and the expected result to know a good domain name

D) can I do this business with Nokia fone while am still gathering money to buy laptop

E) can you recomend good doamin forums and add ebooks(if you have any) for me to read and finally

Can you train me so that I will be your naija rep.

Thanks

Thanks for your questions - they are intelligent questions.

To your questions:-

A) Step one - Out of the 40 - 50 dropped domain, Isolate the ones with the highest link backs and the generic ones.

Step two - Analyze the keywords if they are keyword oriented, then Isolated the ones that are keyword rich.
If they have good Google PR that will be nice.
Step Three - Then proceed to register these ones with the best Back Link, GPR, and quality Keywords.

B) We register both drop domains and trending names. Domains drop for different reasons, the most common is negligent. So good domains do drop on regular basis due to negligent on the part of the original owners. Other reasons may be death, ill health, imprisonment, and the lists goes on.

Let me remind you there is huge competition at the drop zone. Good domain names are re-registered within split-seconds of dropping

C) Seomoz Software is on-site app for keywords brainstorming. It's not possible to be transferred. However, I'll see others ways I can help.

D) Domain business like every other Serious online businesses is better done with full internet. I mean with Laptops and Desktops. But if you're good with mobile usage, you can use it to some extend.

E) DNFORUM is one one the biggest domain forum, you can start from there, you will alot from other member and you can sell domains here if you're a premium member.

I am a Nigerian! Training you? I stopped training Nigerians on Domain Business Last year for obvious reasons. Besides, my fee is high. Lets just see what we can accomplish here.

Thank you!

malachi2uk: Sir cameronese, u made me have a rethink on all your posts.

I really want to be a proffesional dominer but this thread is not helping matters with the likes of 2sexy and his zig zag replies.

How can you help me? Thanks in anticipation.

Thank for defending us LOL... The problem with that person is the same problem with most Nigerians online. They are always quick to claim pro in a subject they know nothing about, thereby rubbing themselves the opportunity to learn and that's the reason most aren't doing well on the Internet Business —

If you can drop some of your questions here I will try to answer them hopefully I'll be here long enough

mrnestyy1985:


"To my surprise on going to google, Winerefinary returned over 2million search result"

The quote above should have answered your question.

If the google search returned this high amount, it means that to some extent, some people call a wine producing company a "wineRefinery" rather than the original name which is "Winery"

And Winery is a combination of a wine and refinery....... And winery is vineyard plus storage house plus laboratory.

Do you want to learn something about this or you want to stick to what you already know??

bomking4x:

Now I see your points, You are making sense...Am only talking about few domains I just registered because new on domain biz.

Do u also develop your domains before selling them?

Yeah, it is very good to keep your eyes simple especially when you are new in Domain Business. In fact your target at this point in time should be on domain you can just sell for 100 bucks that's a good gain and it will help you gain confidence and the needed resources in the business. Yes, I do develop some of my domains before selling. The 2011 Donainfest (Europe meet) in Barcelona emphasized greatly on Domain development - it was develop, develop, develop! I started developing 3 of my premium domain names after I returned from the fest.

My prayer is that some of you guys get to mature in this business and begin to go places and network with brilliant minds and professionals in the business, then you have a lot waiting for you to learn.

dotcom_na_me_na_me:

Cameronese, i've learnt a lot through your site without paying a dime..
One thing i don't understand about those expensive domains is: Can such domain be sold when it is only registered and not hosted? Can ordinary domain be sold without host while the buyer do the host?

Or a domain can only be sold after registration with hosting?

Nice to hear you did learn something on the site, thank you. Domain name Business is like a Real Estate Business, that's why it is called Virtual Real Estate. In real estate you have the options to buy a land and sell without developing or to develop it and sell. Any way you go about it, you must sell.

So, the direct answer to your question is YES! Big domain names just like any other domains can be sold without developing it. Most premium domains sold in the past were sold virgin. Even some that were developed (Like Wine.com and others) the buyers bought them and discard the site and use only the name and the accruing traffic.

However, if a domain name does for like $10,000 on a virgin state, be sure that it will sell for millions of dollars if well developed.

bomking4x:

Chai...I can't imagine me turning $350 for domain I registered below $10
MBANU!!!

I will sell it and reinvest the money SHEKINA!!

It all depends on the quality of the domain you intend to sell. I've turned down $80,000 offer for Constative.com because what it stands for and what I intends to use it for far outweighed the price. There are some domain names that if you sell them cheaper, you just wasted them. Wealth.com it currently for sale and the asking price is $5MILLION. You can't expect the owner to sell it $100,000 or even $1m because it was registered for $10

2s£xy:
Yeah... I just saw it now. I haven't been keeping up with IM but seriously, domaining is beyond Googlekeyword tool, PR, Backlinks etc that you dwell on and I am testimony of that as I don chop from both sides...

It could have been a better wisdom in your part to get to know whom you're talking with as regards Domain Name Business.

2s£xy:
Bros, abeg no dey spreaf false info. Googlr keword tool is still working.. Haba.

And mrnesty wasn't refering to it. He meant when he typed in to Google.com it return that amount of search results.

Hian...

Well, this is the real reason I hardly join discussion on Nairaland not even when my own subject is being discussed. When last did you use Google keyword tool? And did you even read my post before commenting?

Do you think real domain business is done through guess work like most of you are doing here?

Imanuelle:

what did you use to search?
Please is it done online?

The easiest and fastest tool used to be Google keyword tool but since they've rested it, you can use other premium tools. I use combination of tools including SEOMoz keyword tools. I use them to compliment my custom software

You don't type keyword directly on Google search to get search volume, what you will get is references to those words and not search volume. So the 2million plus the other person sees in his search is the number of time and places the words "Wine" and "Refinery" has been used online.