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raumdeuter:
You asked for the attacker who scored 38goals and more under Pep and I gave you lewandowski

Now you can change turn amala and run to Kafanchan. I dey there dey wait you

Your arguments are nonsensical....Lewy was already a golden boot winner b4 pep came even then he never gave Messi like numbers...Nice try but you must do better

raumdeuter:
Lewandowski scored 42 goals under Pep

Like I told you run from Messi to Gotze to Sterling I will meet you there

Oya bring out the next name

Imagine calling Lewy a world class attacker as an example of Pep making a player great...If anything Klopp made him great which is equally fallacious

Jodera:
You're just the follow up of those earlier arguments na

If you don't know that it's good coaches and clubs that makes players great and mostly not otherwise. Many players have entered doldrums or haven't reached the expected heights because of the kinda coach or club they met

E nor concern me whether Pep is a Fraud tho we might visit this later if ATM dumps Pep out....Saying Pep made Messi is like saying Sir Alex made Ronaldo or all that bullshit...It's why in table tennis Nadal, Federer and Djokovic would still dominate with me as their coach but no table tennis coach can make an Andy Murray a Federer...My point in a nutshell, Messi would have been great regardless of Pep

afrodoc2:
Gotze even had a metabolic disorder that was damaging his muscles. I don't know when Pep became liquid metal Odumeje performing miracles to heal the sick.

Does Sterling,Sane,Ribery, robben have metabolic disorders?...how many of them put up Messi like numbers

raumdeuter:
Gotze best under Klopp 16 goals
Gotze best under Pep 15 goals

Tell what is the difference?

Let me put it in simple English....Call any other attacker under Pep that scored Messi least goals which is 38 or shut up about Pep making Messi great..

Jodera:
You're grasping at straws here

You said pep is a fraud, we debunked that.
You guys said he met a stable team in barca that's why he excelled, we debunked that.

You said Messi was already great before Pep that's why pep excelled, we debunked that again.

Now you wan carry me go gotze like say gotze na bayern, wetin concern Pep with Gotze biko kwanu?

Omoh I nor know who follow you argue all those arguments wey u mention...my first post to you was the one addressing how Pep made Messi great...Why u dey turn Amala because u nor get answer?

raumdeuter:
These are the stats for Gotze. Pay attention

2010/11 - 8 goals
2011/12 - 7 goals
2012/13 - 16 goals

Under Pep
2013/14 - 15 goals
2014/15 - 15 goals

Wow...So 15 goals is the best Pep can do with German Messi which he has already bettered before Pep...LMAO

raumdeuter:
why did this generational talent goals doubled immediately he played under Pep and the goals dropped immediately Pep left

Maths dey hard u...211 and 196 is a difference of how many goals...leave gotze sef, Sterling under Pep has only scored 20 league goals once...Why has Sterling under Pep not even scored the least amount of goals that Prime Messi scored?...

raumdeuter:
This na capping.
Marko Marin was called the German Messi. Gotze had a health issue

Amala turning at it's finest... Health issue kwa Prime Messi Turner could not even turn gotze to level of Ben Arfa

raumdeuter:
2005/06 - 8 goals
2006/07 - 17 goals
2007/08 - 16 goals

Pep came

2008/09 - 38 goals
2009/10 - 47 goals
2020/11 - 53 goals
2011/12 - 73 goals

Pep left

2012/13 - 60 goals
2013/14 - 41 goals
2014/15 - 41 goals
2015/16 - 54 goals

What is the point of all this stats...that Messi a generational talent got better with age like fine wine should not come as a surprise to anybody who understands football...Why don't u answer d Question I ask Jodera about gotze, why don't u pull up his stats too

Jodera:
I didn't deny Messi greatness, did I?

Okay, tell me the individual award, goals scored(both in cl and league) Messi won prior to meeting guardiola?

Ok you've left that angle...let me juxtapose messi with gotze who was nicknamed the German messi...he played his best football under klopp at 19-21 before he left BVB, why did Pep the prime Messi maker not make gotze a world beater?..

Jodera:
Start first by telling us why Messi wasn't shining under poch

Tell me why you're comparing Messi @ 34 with a 21-29 yr old Messi...at which age did de Lima and dinho leave their prime...the fact that a 34 year old is still expected to put up numbers of a 20 something year old is a testament to his greatness..
CC: Raumdeuter

Jodera:
Exactly what I'm telling you and hensben. Messi never showed that prime until Pep came to his life not the other way round like you and hensben are making us to believe.

No pep = No busquet, no prime Messi, no prime Xavi and iniesta, no Pedro.

That's Pep for you boss

this is fallacious...Put Messi under big Sam he will still shine...Messi does not need pep, Pep needed Messi...Put prime Messi in the city team of the last 4 years and there's no way city would not have won a Cl by now

TLona1:
All these dominance ended immediately Pep left.

which fucking dominance....since checkbook pep left Messi has won 3 more balon d'or how many best coach has pep won...Messi has also won another treble how many trebles has pep won...local league merchant..Can never be my Coach...

airmark:
Fraudiola's assslickers are blind to the truth, we need to always clear them.

wait till the finished Simeone according to dayo sends him packing again and hear the countless Epistles defending the shameless Apari...

Iamyemmie:
I don’t know what the hype is about severance
Not feeling it
Carnival row too I don’t know yet
Na abami shows u people dey hype here
The only good recommendation I have gotten from this place is wentworth

Be like we like different stuffs

Severance is a slow burn....picks up rapidly from ep5 so stay with it

TrebleChamp:
I think he is now spending more time with his school books....

HaHa....maybe dem collect him phone cuz he fail jamb again

TrebleChamp:
You remind me of a certain Trevor in United thread , only that you don't insult people unprovoked....

Where trebor sef...he follow him darling manager enter wilderness?

AnfieldFan:
He stepped up towards the end of last season after overcoming those niggling injuries... Boy's gifted..I wanted him for us after his first season with Madrid but I knew it was wishful thinking on my part (some say he flopped, don't see it that way)...
Too late now...

Yeah...to get him now you'll have to pay at least 150m since ATM bought him for over 100m...pity he'll be a hell of a player

J.Felix has really stepped up this season...watching ATM right now and the guy knows how to ball...Shame he isn't playing for a more attacking team

All these people think say because dem nor dey venue party nor go hold....Wala talai this party go loud!!!

BlueRayDick:
And more and more.... and more ....

1-4

you nor complete am....they are running riot!!

raumdeuter:
Team Spain 3 CL, 2 Trebles
Team Germany 3 CL, 1 Treble

Team Spain 11 League titles
Team Germany 6 League titles

How does Pep and Klopp cancel each other? 1 CL 3 League suddenly cancels 2 CL 9 Leagues

Only CL titles won in the previous decade counts, and 1 CL>>>>>>>>1 million league titles

donstan18:
VVD won’t be regarded and rated like he is now, if it was then.

If you're good you will be rated...Your statement is just like saying Salah would not be rated as one of the best in Epl because he did not play in the era of Henry, drogba, Van persie e.t.c...One player greatness does not subtract from the other

Roland17:
I am more disappointed with the Academy! How did they allow him sit through the awards? he even walked up the stage to collect his award after the incident. He should have been kicked out of the awards immediately after that incident. That action is considered assault and Chris Rock is well within his rights to file charges against Will. Will is quite emotional and insecure and it did not shock me.

Lol...Nor be the same academy still award Polanski and Weinstein, I nor know why e dey shock you

donstan18:
Vidic, Terry, Ramos, Nesta, Puyol, Ferdinand, Stam, Silva and Lucio.

These players in their prime will body VVD.

Which of them were not disgraced by strikers??...abi nor be vidic Torres always dey use rub ground

donstan18:
How many of these players didn’t score VVD?

Name your best defenders and I'll show you when they were disgraced by strikers...It doesn't make them worse...who can forget when the de Lima used Nesta to wipe ground till he almost gave up

donstan18:
True!!

How many of them there are better than Ronaldo, Messi, suarez, lewandoski and aguero all of whom Van dijk has faced...what does the perennial loser ballack even know about luck

The fact is no one is condoning the actions of Smith and I said so in my first post...In this situation there was a cause and an effect, which is the Joke and the Slap.. What we're doing is trying to rationalize how Chris could have avoided the slap...In 20-30 years people might even have forgotten the issue that cause the slap, but that slap will stay with Chris forever or at least until the Oscars cease to exist...

raumdeuter:
Smith didn't react because it was his wife, he did it because he felt he had power more than Rock in that place and he chose to flex it. That is really the bittchmove

There are thousands of people who will make the comment about his wife and he will laugh it off but he felt Rock was below him and he can handle Chris Rock

Na for your Ogbomosho Calabash you see all these one so??...after you go dey argue say nothing like JuJu

A40:
There's literally a video of Will Smith yabbing another man for his 'Alopecia'

Alopecia is just a funky way to describe baldness btw.

And??... different situations, me and one of my friends almost bought at my uni days cuz of a joke I made... Normally he would have ignored it and might even have laughed along but I did it at a party where plenty babes were there so he had to show he was a macho man...his reaction does not take anything from my insensitive joke

raumdeuter:
So what's comedy about if it's not to make offensive jokes about people?

Go and watch roast on comedy central and see what they say about people. Some people as old as 80 being roasted for fun and everyone laughs. Even men as powerful as Trump or as strong as Hulk Hogan

Lol...My point is as a comedian you have to know when to draw the line...Even among friends yabbing each other normally they're some kind things you don't even joke with... Normally it's common among cliques to say things like 'your fada' but there's one of my guy who came from a split home who still had issues concerning it, when making those father jokes I do not include him not because I think it would get violent cuz he might even find it funny but on the other hand you never know...