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Religion / Re: Mocking God? by CharlieV: 3:50pm On Jan 26, 2006
layi,

I really admire you for the strong arguments you have put up.

I heard a story about a talkshow where a christian and a non-christian were arguing about the reality of Jesus and the gospel on televison. The non-christian said all sorts of blasphemies.

At a point the christain got fed up and he said, "In the name of jesus, i command you to come out of him"

Immediately, the man who was busy speaking blasphemies began to manifest, shaking all about the place right before the cameras.

That is what we will be seeing in these last days...not much of talking without action.


You seem to have great faith in this.. story.. that you heard.

If you have such great faith, why don't you give it a try? Then you can come back and tell everyone the results. Here's what you do:

1. Find an atheist willing to debate you publically.
2. Begin engaging him in debate.
3. While everyone is watching, say, "In the name of jesus, i command you to come out of him"

If you have the same results, you win!

Be sure to have someone video record the event.

I'm sure your faith is strong, so you need not be concerned with the rolling laughter in the audience should your attempt fail. Surely, a command in the name of Jesus cannot fail.

If it works, I think this would be a great way to eliminate crime! Get a bullhorn and drive around streets and cities saying, "In the name of Jesus, I command all evil spirits to come out of all people and depart quickly!"

We'll have a perfect planet in no time. tongue

Charlie
Religion / Re: Mocking God? by CharlieV: 4:53am On Jan 26, 2006
The "Mocking God" post has so many problems I don't know where to begin. I will begin by telling you I'm a Christian -- but I'm a Christian who believes that if Jesus read something like this, He'd tell you to take the log out of your eye. The rain falls on the just and the unjust.

Now, I read some excellent replies elsewhere to some of the absurdities in the post, let me share some with you:

THE MAN WHO BUILT TITANIC:
After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the
Titanic would be. With an ironic tone he said: "Not even God can sink it"

The result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic.

Reply 1: Well that's what you get for being a passenger of a 25,000 ton liner built by just one man.
Reply 2: Yes, God showed you, didn't he? Stop blaspheming or I'll randomly kill more people that have nothing whatsoever to do with you!

JOHN LENNON:
Some years before during his interview with an American Magazine, he said:
"Christianity will end, it will disappear. I do not have to argue about
that. I am certain. Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple, Today
we are more famous than Him" (1966)".
Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ,
was shot six times.

Reply: And yet Aleister Crowley lived to be 72. A little selective, isn't it?

Reply to the above reply: Yeah, but he is dead, right? God wins! George Burns played God in movies. That has to be some sort of blasphemy, right? And where is George Burns now? Dead. God wins!

Other replies to the John Lennon part quoted songs and statements by dozens of rock artists which were much, much more blasphemous than anything John Lennon ever said, artists who are still alive and well.

Reply to the whole post: Wow! I'm really impressed. All these people said bad things and then died eventually! I'd better be careful or I might die eventually too.

Reply to the story of the girl in the car: I really, really wonder about a mother who would send her daughter off with a carload of drunks, and trust God more than the matter of blood alcohol content. I usually don't want to compound grief with punishment, but if the girl is a minor, her mother should be arrested! (If it was even remotely a true story.)

MARILYN MONROE:
She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a show. He is a preacher and Evangelist and the Spirit of God had sent him to preach to her. After hearing what the Preacher had to say, she said: "I don't need your Jesus" A week later, she was found dead in her apartment.

Reply: Of course, the fact that Marilyn Monroe was Jewish is inconsequential.


Some more replies:

1. The same logic can be applied to other religions.

Never reject the Word of Allah, the Koran! (Or the Book of Mormon, or the I Ching, etc.)

Martin Luther King, Jr., a Christian leader, rejected the Koran and was shot to death!

(Fill in your list of other Christians who died young. Be sure to include some anti-Koran quotes.)

2. I don't reject the Word of God. I reject your word! God never told me He wrote the Bible!


There's much, much more that can be written about the opening post.

Frankly, I'm a Christian, and I find the opening post to be offensive, taking glee in the deaths of others, and attributing it to God. Yes, I'm Christian. I also happen to feel greatly saddened for the death of John Lennon, as just one example from the list, and it was a deeply mentally disturbed human being, and not God, that killed him, and I think it's a greater blasphemy to say God killed John Lennon then every blasphemy John Lennon ever said combined. And when John Lennon said, "Love is the answer," and, "All you need is love," he just happens to have echoed Christ's two greatest commandments.

So if there is any blasphemy here, it's in the post about "Mocking God" and it's horrible list.

Charlie

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