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Religion / Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by ChijiokeGodwin(m): 7:56am On Jan 05, 2016
LoJ:
Thank you ChijiokeGodwin. Perhaps you might help me understand something else. I have already asked the question here, but since Justcool and Mnwankwo are no longer regular posters, no one has given me an explanation. I've been seeking for the Truth since the age of 18 when I had a "spiritual encounter". Today I am 26, but still seeking for the Truth. It has a been quite a Journey with ups and downs. I might share the story someday.
Anyway, I was "led" to Abdrushin 2 months ago. So I'm still reading it, trying to bestir myself to grasp it and experience it.
I'd like to know: By what Power/Authorities, some religious men perform such astonishing prophecies, miracles and healings? Excluding of course the fake miracles/prophecies, and the one that can be explained by suggestion, hypnosis, placebo, etc, I think there are still some muslim/christian/buddhist priests or pastor, religious figure that do perfom such extraordinary acts on a regular basis. What is your perception on this issue?
Thank you once again ChijiokeGodwin, and cheers.

Happy new year to you all, fellow seekers. Especially those of you who have kept this peaceful and enlightening thread moving for years, like Justcool, M_nwankwo, Speer, shinealight, etc. You cannot believe the number of people this thread has awakened spiritually. I wish you all strength.

@ LoJ, many true seekers were also led to the Grail Message the same way you were led to It. When a person genuinely seeks the Truth, no mater where is his location, as long as his seeking is genuine, he will certainly be guided until he finds himself face to face with the Truth; The Grail Message. You will not know what you hold in your hands until you learn to delve deeper into the Message with all your heart, in good volition, step by step, slow and steady. Then, at last, you will never want to give It for anything. For It means life to you.

But you cannot grasp the Truth in the Message by asking about the highest things, things far beyond your present capacity to comprehend. Or expecting others to pave an easy passage for you. I am not implying that those who have read the Message should not help a seeker to elucidate some puzzles he encountered while reading. But... the strength you exerted to penetrate deeper by yourself is what will give you the ability to grasp It.

The following is my perception concerning the question you asked.

There is only one Power. This Power come from God. The Power is to be found everywhere in Creation. The Power is poured forth into the entire Creation at the Festivals of Whitsuntide once a year. All creatures use this Power for their sustenance. We use this Power to create the forms of thoughts, words and deeds. It only changes into evil power if we use it for evil purpose. Thus there is nothing like one power from the devil and another from God as your question implies.

Every thought you think, every word you uttered, every action you take, immediately takes on form in the beyond. These forms, combined together, is capable of creating the events you have to experience in your future life on earth. In order word, every event that should take place in our life on earth had already taken on form in the beyond. If an individual has the opportunity to survey those events during sleep or through pictures shown to him by those in the beyond and later passed the information to his fellow earth dwellers, it should not be regarded as astonishing prophecy. However, prophetic (clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentinence) ability differs according to one's nature, but it should not be the reason for one person to lord it over another. If a prophesied event fails to materialize, that does not always mean that the seer is a lair. But it shows that the forms in the beyond have been weakened through a change of decision, thus direction.

Miracle. What the religionists called miracle today simply appeared so to them because their brain cannot comprehend the process by which what they call miracle manifest. Everything that happened in Creation is completely in accordance with the Laws God.

In order to understand what they call miracle, you will take your consciousness back when men were still ignorant of the hitherto existing technology. Ask yourself if what we know today as television, in someway or somehow was suddenly shown to the well known king of Egypt 4000 years ago, would he not call the process by which human pictures move in the box (television) a magic or miracle. The same rule apply to the people of today. They branded all those happenings miracle because they are not yet mature to analyze their process of manifestations. You will not doubt that mankind of today will shudder if shown the discoveries or inventions that are yet to come in the next 500 years and call them impossible, magic or miracle.

You will have to learn by the very word of Christ when He was approached by the Pharisees who were demanding for miracle: "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.' "And in the morning, 'There will be a storm today, for the sky is red and threatening.' Do you know how to discern the appearance of the sky, but cannot discern the signs of the times?"

O yes! The signs of the times? Does the above statement show that Christ considered His performance to be miracle? Even His famous walking on the sea was not against the Laws in Creation. The process is explainable by any person who posses the true knowledge of the Laws that govern Creation. When a disease is healed through laying of the hands/prayer or, an event which normally would have taken longer is made to occur at the present time due to concentrated Power, there is nothing arbitrary or extraordinary about it. There is also nothing special about it if some people are possessed with the ability to channel Ethereal Powers. That is why Christ had to assure that anybody can do all He did, as long as the person has true Faith. Unfortunately, men of today have distorted the true meaning of Faith.

Peace.

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Religion / Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by ChijiokeGodwin(m): 8:03am On Dec 26, 2015
LoJ:
Hello my dear ChijiokeGodwin,
I have been edified by your post. It resonates within me as consistent with the Truth. However, I am but a simple seeker of the Truth, I don't know much. All the same, I'm grateful for your kind answer.
I wish you strength as your serve the LORD.

Thanks, I wish you strength too.
Religion / Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by ChijiokeGodwin(m): 8:01pm On Dec 25, 2015
LoJ:
Hello Seekers of the Truth,
I got a few questions and would like the perceptions of Justcool and Mnwankwo, and everyone who feels prompted to offer his sensing.
I'd like to know what happens to religious people (let's pentecostal or Muslims) after. I can recall Mnwankwo saying that some religious people will go to a place in the ethereal world where they will keep carrying out the religious activities they used to do on earth (casting out demons, preachins, etc.). Could someone please correct me if I'm wrong on elaborate on that.
thank you.
@ Justcool
I sent you a mail. I don't know if you got it.

I will try and give my humble perception here, I sense that the above question does not originate from the desire to satisfy an intellectual curiosity.

Yes! Those people who like to shield their wicked deeds behind religious creed. Those who cling blindly to the religion of their parents and stubbornly closed their ears against the admonition to strive for conviction. And also those who, with degraded intellect, equate their ridiculous religious believe with God's wisdom, will all have to experience their first surprise after passing on.

They will see that the so called death is nothing more than discarding a worn-out garment, when they will realize that after passing on one can still see, hear and feel his surroundings. Hundredfold will be their pain at the realization of how deep they have fallen as a result of their false religious view.

Men who had perpetrated vile and wicked deeds in the name of holy religion, or for the furtherance of their own despicable, material ends will finally find themselves in the dark region after passing on. For example, a Muslim enthusiast who blows up himself with others, believing that in the beyond he will be rewarded with some numbers of virgins will finally awaken in a dark region homogeneous to his nature, being surrounded and attacked by the phantoms of his victims, he will also see other wicked souls like him, who had murdered themselves and others in a selfish religious battle. There, they will give full vent to their wicked desires until they become tired and see themselves as they truly are. Only then, can a way out be shown to them, it often take thousands of years.

What about the man who is to be called good or decent. The man who, though possessing good inclination still cling to false religious view due to his parental upbringing and habit. The man who is too lazy to put his religious believe system under closer scrutiny. What will happen to him when he will cross over? He will undoubtedly find himself in the land of twilight, will drag with him his religious tendency into that region, will also be attracted to the kindred souls who had indulged in meaningless religious practices while on earth.

There, in the land of twilight, one will find a great number of religious buildings erected by the thoughts of those on earth and those in the beyond who share the same tendency. Those poor souls will not hesitate to stagger into these church buildings and continue their prattling and murmuring as they used to do on earth, especially, as most of them will think that they are still living on earth because there is no much changes in them after the death of their physical body, that is, their ethereal body and their earthly body look alike, even the houses, the trees, the rivers in the beyond look the same as on earth. Another reason why some departed souls hardly believe they have left the earth is because of the frightful ordeal that orthodox religion teaches that one must go through after ‘death; the very conception of ‘judgment’ and ‘hell’ and ‘heaven’, an imaginary heaven populated by blissful hymn singing souls or a lake of fire called hell created to torture sinners. When the ignorant soul passes on with this false notion and sees that he is neither in heaven nor in hell not even any form of judgement sit, sees everything not much different from the earth, a guide will find it difficult to convince him that he has left the earth, or that he is the so called dead. With blind zeal, he will go along serving his religion as he did on earth.

Creeds, therefore, do not form any part of the lighter region in the beyond, but because people take with them all their characteristics into the beyond, the fervid adherents to any particular religious body will continue to practice their religion in the beyond until such time as their minds become spiritually enlightened.

Religiously speaking, the bigotry and prejudices are all there. They do no harm, except to themselves, since such matters are confined to themselves. There is no such thing as making converts in the beyond.

Once again, it should be borne in mind that not all religious people will go to the place in the beyond where they will continue practicing their religion. The weight of the evil minded souls will naturally drag them down to the dark region where there is suffering and pain.

If I have answered the above question, then I will say that a true seeker should reject all blind faith, because it can never be of any value to him. Only that which he himself enters into with his intuitive perception, thereby bringing it to personal experience within himself, will be useful to him in the maturing of his spirit.

Remain blessed.

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