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truthman2012: If all men of God in Christiendom are possessed of the devil, I wonder what the Muslims who deal directly with demons (jinns), making contact with them through arabic charms are possessed of. Infact that VIOLENT Gabriel was Satan in disguise and you are all possessed of him. It was Satan that played the roles of Allah, the roles Gabriel and the roles of Satan in the Quran. That is satanic Trinity for you.

If you attribute all the good things happening in Christiendom to the Devil, you are indirectly saying the Devil is good. Isn't it?

Since no manifestations of God are happening in Islam other than Allah writing on almost anything, which is of no benefit to humanity, this by implication means Allah is not good but the Devil.

You that claim to have original word of Allah have nothing to show for it other than VIOLENCE in every part of the world.

You should rather cover ur face in shame, simply because christianity is a confused faith. Wihtout denying the fact, u know how many division and denominations of christianity in the world today, funny enough, no one denomination agrees with another, do u still call that a path to salvation? In fact Jesus must be angry u all christians for bring him hell of shame.
Jesus did not creat christianity, St. Paul did, find out, ur faith should rather be called Paulinity and not Christianity, what a funny and confused Paul make up religion.

There are many people who follow Christianity and have divided themselves into various groups/ sects depending upon varying beliefs. The types of Christians include Catholic, Protestant, Anglican, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Baptist, Episcopalian, Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Coptic, Rastafarian, Gnostic,Celesian, Cerubum, Ekanka the list is endless.

Christianity ….One Christ, One Bible Religion… You know the Latin Catholic will not enter Syrian Catholic Church. These two will not enter Marthoma Church. These three will not enter Pentecost Church. These four will not enter Salvation Army Church. These five will not enter Seventh Day Adventist Church. These six will not enter Orthodox Church. These seven will not enter Jacobite church. Like this there are 146 castes for Christianity, each will never share their churches for fellow Christians..! Wonderful..! One Christ, One Bible, One Jehova.... What a unity!

Truthman, the more u reply my post the more irrationals in ur faith I will reveal. If u come with a blade, I will come with a knife. If u come with a dagger, I will come with a gun. Keep them coming, CHROMABLESIMPLE is home for u.

Utchry: REPENT for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. JESUS CHRIST is THE WAY, THE TRUTH & THE LIFE. No one cometh unto the Father except through Him. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord & Saviour & be saved from eternal damnation.

A word is enough for the wise!

go and sell Jesus to d lost sheep of ur folks. Muslims know more about Jesus than u any christian do, if today christians live by the dictates and practice of Jesus, Islam and christianity would be on the same page.

From all the op said above, nothing inspires u, I am not suprise, it has been said that salvation is by the will of God Almighty.

truthman2012: I'm not in doubt about my faith. I only pity you people. Apart from what the Bible says, we have visible evidences on the destination of true Christ believers after this world.

Not long ago, Baba Obadare died before he came back to life. We know what he said about his experience over there.

Baba Akindayomi, the founder of Redeemed Church died before he came back to live. We know what he said about his experience over there. These are but a very few among so many people.

Those who saw Jesus live or in dream tell us of their experiences.

Stephen, one of Christ's early believers, when being stoned to death for declaring Jesus as the Son of God saw Jesus in His glory in Heaven before he gave up the ghost and he declared it.

All of these are people we have the same faith and they were people of very high integrity. I have no reason to doubt them or the Bible.

I understand what is going on in your mind and your likely questions or comments. I don't need them and don't bother saying them because it is of no consequence to me or fellow believers

As for the muslims, their hope is in suspense as there is nothing or nobody to confirm or refute their faith in relation to what is happening in heaven. O ma se o.

What a distance dream of yours! I believe u read in the bible dt the spirit of devil will appear to some pple in the spirit of light to deceive them, the bible told us that once someone is dead he no longer belong to the living realm, all those pple u ve cite to prove ur fairy tale are all possessed by evil spirit.
Grow up man! Do u know wot many do to get their power? Stop this wishful thinking, lot are happening today in the world, don't see any man of God as saint or Godsent, check d trend and see how ur own salvation can be assured.
It is only by the mercy and grace of God can somebody be saved and not by his deed or righteousness. Brother, don't believe everytin u read!

miftaudeen: @ Truthman2012, you ran away from my trend, you said that you prayed for ss patient and a bro. with disease and they were ill from their illness. i had organised a ss patient and blind man for you, they are waiting for your miracle. o ni jibiti

heheheheheh dt is wot they do to deceive pple making it seems as if they were sent by so call holy spirit, all for d love of money and fame. All I know is that the end justifies the means.

truthman2012: I will keep excercisng myself reading and writing. But for your information, I don't like posting on muslims' section all the time, my posts are transferred there by the moderator.

As long as I remain with Jesus, I cannot go to hell. Jesus said 'in my Father's' house are many mansion for His followers. Jesus is in Heaven, not hell. Jesus didn't decree Hellfire for us and that is our greatest joy. Thank you.

That is only gaurantee if and only if u strictly adhere to the teaching of Jesus.Jusus never claimed Divinity so wot mansion are u talking about, all that are fairy tale, only God(Allah) has d final decision. As u may agree with me that God may forgive other sins but not that of associating partner with HIM, before it is too late, Truthman, stay off IDOLATRY and know that GOD ALmight alone is due to be worship and not Jesusa,a man, a creature like u an ordinary messenger. Look and read objectively through d bible, all d practice in it are done by the muslim, for instance the aspect of worshiping God directly which was practised by Jesus, ask urself if today christians are doing wot the bible stipulates.

truthman2012: You seem to be muddling things up. I cannot understand which of my post you are reacting to by yours.

What you said first was Adam not dying, which I have explained. The next thing is you talking about the Law, Jesus Divinity and so on. How are they related? Pls I think I would not be able to cope with your style. Thank you.

good for u, I am happy about the fact I ve overwhelm u by the irrelevances, conceptions and strange doctrines in christiandom and the bible. If u know wot is good for u, seek salvation without bias, understand wot islam says about Jesus and God, worshiping Jesus instead of God Almighty is pure idol, it is an unforgivable sin before God Almighty. The clear reward for that is hellfire take it or leave. Instead of u spending ur time looking for way and manner of bring islam down, do honest comparative religion on both islam and christianity, cheer bro.

truthman2012: I can't see where you stated Muhammad's and other muslims' condition or position after they have died pending resurrection day apart from Hellfire we saw in the Hadith and Quran. Where?

you are too busy on the muslim section posting series of misleading and bias and irrelevant ideas. Truthman, I assure u that u will be among those Jesus said they will cast demons in his name but they are false prophet, u have no place before Jesus u should rather do some objective comparative religions and seek God's guidance so that u will not end up in hell fire.

pointblank 321: Can the muslims say categorically where Muhammad and other dead muslims are now before Resurrection Day with authoritative reference?

can u say where all the dead christians are, definately no, God Almighty is all knower stop fooling around christianity is a man made up faith and it has no future that is why thousand of denominations are in existence today, be objective for d end is near.

truthman2012: @ Chromablesimple

Thank you for your observation. Let me start by asking you: was the writter of the Book of Genesis not aware that Adam did not die the day he ate the fruit? The event had taken place before he wrote so he knew Adam did not die the same day.
That God said ''in the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die'' does not mean Adam would die the same day but will surely die.

I believe the reason Adam didn't die the same day was because he was yet to fulfil the purpose of God for his life. God commanded them to bear children and fill the earth and that had not being fulfilled.

Genesis 3:19
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, TILL THOU RETURN UNTO THE GROUND (i.e die); for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

''......TILL thou return'' means Adam was not to die the same day, but would not have died at all if not for the disobedience.

God's intention was for man to live eternally. But He told Adam that eating the forbidden fruit would cause his death. That God intended them to live eternally is evidenced by:

Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of US, to know good and evil and now, lest he put his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat and LIVE FOREVER.

The tree of life was among other fruits they have been eating and once eaten, no death. God had to prevent him from eating it again, otherwise he would not die again. That would have meant man would live eternally with the knowledge of sin and disobedience to God.

truthman d bible u ve quoted to support ur claim was not referring to Adam, it was separately saying sometin else in another content. you don't understand what contention here is all about, it is all about christians total deviation from d pure Jesus's teachin. From d rest uncorrupted part of the bible we can still c dat most of d Jesus teaching are not follow by today' s christians. If d Quran had not been revealed, no one would have notice d obvious corruption and dogma in d bible, believe me I wouldn't ve have any choice but to follow d bible but thank God for the Quran. Can we consider some opinion to signify Jesus teaching

The mission of Jesus Christ (pbuh) he came to fulfill the Law:
Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity for himself. He clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus (pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic law. This is clearly evident in the following statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in the Gospel of Mathew:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets; I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
(The Bible, Mathew 5: 17-20)
God sent Jesus (pbuh):
The Bible mentions the prophetic nature of Jesus mission in the following verses:
and the word whic h ye hear is not mine, but the Fathers which has sent me. (The Bible, John 14:24)
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou has sent. (The Bible,John 17:3)
Jesus refuted even a remote suggestion of his divinity. Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God; but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
The above statements from the Bible refute the Christian dogma of divinity of Jesus and of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pubh). Jesus (pbuh) exhorts keeping the commandments as the means to achieve salvation.
( The Bible, Mathew 5: 17-20)
Truthman, don't tell any muslim about Jesus, we know him. You pple are only idolizing him as against his teaching and a violation of the GOD Almighty. Cheer bro, if an offense comes out of the truth, better an offense come than the truth be concealed.

truthman2012: @golpen

1. Which books revealed to the past prophets is the verse referring to? As I said before, in order to avoid lengthening this discussions, always don't leave room for suspense.

2. Native intelligence is not applicable to spiritual things as they are far beyong human imaginations. Can you imagine or feel how a witch siphones blood without a pipe? So you can not have my feelings if you are not in my spiritual condition.

There are two occasions when christians speak in tongues. When praying and when prophesying. The whole church can speak in tongues at the same time when praying. 1Cor. 14:27 is talking about when prayer has been stopped and suddenly some people begin to speak in tongues aloud, wanting to prophesy. It should be done orderly in order not to create confusion.

3. The NT is the spiritual fulfilment of the OT. The problems people had in the OT is what Jesus came to solve. The fault was in the way they were implementing the laws. Jesus came to summarize the so many laws they had into two: love your God with all your heart and love your neigbours, and with that all the laws are fulfiled.

I have told you individuals' opinions are not separated from the words of God and both are called the Scriptures. If in the Bible it is written '' And Samuel said....''. Is that God's word or Samuel's?

John 5:31 - Is talking about God testifying (bearing WITNESS) to Jesus Ministry and not Himself bearing His own WITNESS.

John 8:14 - Is talking about RECORDS not WITNESS. Records here means PROFILE. Jesus profile: where He came from and where He was going etc.

I notice all you are bringing up have been repeated severally by other people on this site, which I had attended to.

truthman u fail to accept the fact the contradictions exist in the bible, I will appreciate it if u can let us come to common term by erazing bias and hope for the truth. Of recent I came to notice some unrealistic opinion in the bible, some I will put forward for ur consideration and honest conclusion-

“And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” Genesis 2:16-17

But Adam didn’t die. Why?

Does Islam agree with the Old Testament?
Answer:
The Holy Quran says:
“And We said, "O Adam! You and your wife dwell in this Garden, and eat freely from it wherever you please - but do not approach this tree for you will become of those who transgress.” 2:35

The God didn’t tell Adam that he would die if he ate from the tree. I can say that Genesis 2:16-17 are not from the original Bible, but they are from the changed Bible.
Many Christians believe that Genesis 2:16-17 indicate that the sin of Adam must be punished by death. Since Adam was not punished by death, the Christ was crucified. We –Muslims- believe that the Christ was not crucified. Adam’s repentance was accepted. The Holy Quran says:
“Then Adam learnt from his Lord certain words (of revelation), therefore Allah accepted his repentance; indeed He only is the Most Acceptor of Repentance, the Most Merciful.” 2:37
Truthman what do u tell me about d bible on that single verse? Come to reason, stay of clear dogma pls. Cheer

FOLYKAZE: Jesus and church ke? We live in a civilized world which Jesus didn't know about. I will take him to dubai, give him legions of pro.stitute, design him with golden robe, package him with bling bling, set him on a private jet and go to lil-wayne show. Jesus missed all this. He cant remember any boring church for now

You want to spoil God with worldly materials ha, FOLYKAZE, may He over look ur joke.

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