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nlMediator: I am all for the view that we need to pattern our lives after the NT church and anchor our beliefs on what is written in the New Testament. I caution, however, against the danger of extremes, which lead us into thinking that something is right or wrong simply because we cannot find an example of it in the NT. For one, the Bible is both a revelational and “historical” book, by which I mean that the Bible contains stories of events from which certain principles can be distilled. Yet, the Bible is not about manufacturing stories. In other words, if something did not happen, the Bible may not tell about it. If early Christians were not demonized, the Bible cannot include such stories. The conclusion we draw then may be that Christians cannot be demonized. But it could also be that the early Christians were not demonized. That would call for us to dig deeper and find out why, instead of sticking to one, and discounting any other plausible, explanation.

All my Christian life, I would say that I have been more sympathetic with the side that states that a Christian cannot be oppressed or obsessed (I think everybody believes that a Christian cannot be possessed – which is full control by the devil – so I leave that). Of late, I’m not quick to dismiss the opposing view. And I thought about this question of whether Christians need deliverance, something dropped in my heart asking: “what of Simon the sorcerer?” To tell you the truth, it’s been long since I read his story and I don’t think I’ve ever studied it. I decided to go to Acts 8 and also do a bit of Bible study on that story. I’ll share what I learnt subsequently. I’ll like my brothers and sisters here to join me in the study. I’m not claiming any deep revelation and I certainly do not want to mislead anybody.

I should also add that if I want to go by experience, I can conclude today that Christians can be demonized and need freedom if they find themselves in such a state. But I do not want to base my position primarily on experience. Without the support of the Word of God, I’d be bothered about any experience, no matter how beautiful and well-intentioned it is.

The thing about Simon is that he never was a true Christian. Yea sure, v.13 says that he believed. But that's no different from the "easy believism" we see rampant today. People who merely believe in Jesus but don't truly repent of sin. And of course, we saw Peter's testimony of Simon. He said to Him, "...your heart is not right before God... you are full of bitterness and captive to sin." This doesn't sound like a Christian attribute to me.

In addition, Simon was a sorcerer before the he heard the Apostle preach the gospel. So, obviously he wasn't a Christian when the devil was working heavily on him.

J luv u: To understand what deliverance can do see Hebrew 11:3[b]5" women received their dead raised to life again,others were tortured not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection[/b]. that mean those that accept deliverance received their dead back to life again,dead what? dead marriages, relationship, career, businesses,finances, spiritual life,etc but those that refused deliverance were tortured. tortured of what? tortured of hardship, poverty,broken home, frustrations,lack of helper, loneliness,hatred,etc we all need deliverance. Being born again not withstanding, if not for anything else at least for spiritual recharge.if you have confessed Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, it´s not automatic for you to be free from evil covenants,but a ticket for your freedom through deliverance in His Name.

christemmbassey: please go back and study, Hebrews 11 its about FAITH and NOT about deliverance. God bless.

Exactly! When read in context that verse has absolutely nothing to do with deliverance. For those that were tortured, they did not accept deliverance from the physical prison they were in, SO THAT they might obtain a better resurrection.

So those that suffered and refused to be released (delivered) from the prison are actually men of faith too, not men under a curse.

First off, I'm not a Catholic. From my own understanding of the scriptures, I believe we should give (I prefer GIVE not PAY) tithes but not as the old testament folks did. I believe under the new covenant, we're to give cheerfully according to what we can afford. I don't believe Tithe is restricted to ten percent of our income. It could be more or less but we must give out of freewill.

Furthermore, I think the best way to tackle this tithe topic is to first highlight some scriptures from both the old and new testament defining tithe. From my own study, I believe tithes were meant for the levites, widows, orphans, and the poor. So to claim to be a Christian and not give our tithes is like an oxymoron. What we're saying is that we don't want to help in the upkeep of our church and we don't want to help the poor and needy.

Nevertheless, my advice for anyone who's planning to just start giving tithes is to start with that 10%. Why? Well, I've noticed that if you don't start off that way you may end up not giving at all. So it's good to set a standard at the initial stage of your giving. Hope this was insightful.

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