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Politics / Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous –kumuyi by chuky117: 12:40pm On Dec 23, 2013
spiritfada: The General Overseer of the Deeper Christian Life Ministry, Pastor W.F Kumuyi, has again warned members of the church against celebrating Christmas, saying the annual celebration of Christmas is idolatrous and unscriptural.

Kumuyi warned that partaking in the celebration made Christians to go back from the commandment of Jesus Christ.

The cleric said this on Saturday at the annual national December convention of the church, which held at the church’s camp ground in Ogun State.

He said, “We don’t celebrate Christmas. It actually came from idolatrous background. That is why you don’t hear us sing what they call Christmas carol, Never! We always say it is the December retreat. We are only gathering together because it is the holiday period and love the lord more, and rededicate ourselves more.

“When you find anybody coming in, or any leader, trying to introduce the idolatry of mystery Babylon, that they call Christmas and you want to bring all the Christmas carol saying that is the day that Jesus was born, and you don’t find that in the Acts of the Apostles or in the early church, then you don’t find that in the church either.  If you don’t know that before, now you know.”

He warned that any of the church’s leaders that tried to introduce the “idolatry of Christmas” into any section of the church would be sanctioned, while also encouraging other believers in Christ to jettison the celebration as part of their sacrifice to perfection.

Kumuyi said the duty of the church was to make people more like Jesus Christ and not join in worldly celebrations.

“We are not trying to make the church turn like the world. We want it to be like Jesus Christ, and more like the Apostles. If you don’t have that mind with us, then you have permission to go to other places,” he added.

But the Director of Social Communications, Catholic Archdiocese of Lagos, Monsignor Gabriel Osu, in his reaction to Kumuyi’s proclamation, said, “I don’t know what he means by saying the practice of celebrating Christmas is wrong.

“Is he saying that Christ wasn’t born? That he didn’t come to die for us? Does he not celebrate his own birthday? Do Kumuyi’s pastors not celebrate him? It is not everything I react to; some people just seek attention. If Kumuyi is a Christian, then he must believe in Christ.

“The celebration of Christmas didn’t just start today; it is too public an event for anyone to say that they don’t know what it is about. “If Kumuyi is condemning the commercialisation of Christmas, I can understand that. Christ came to redeem us from our lost state; this was actualised through his coming, his birth; that is why we celebrate Christmas. It is the fulfilment of God’s promise.”

 “I saw him on the television a few days ago. He was in Akwa Ibom State and was the chief preacher during their Christmas celebration event. Kumuyi is just saying what he feels; he is not making any doctrinal statement.”

The spokesperson for the Christian Association of Nigeria, Oshodi chapter, Lagos State, Pastor Barnabas Otoibhi, said that Christmas was worth celebrating.

Otoibhi told one our correspondents in a telephone interview that the origin of Christmas was not as important as its essence.

He said, “The origin of Christmas, as we know it, could be traced to Roman Emperor, Constantine. Christmas was a day for celebrating the Sun God. However, because Constantine was a Christian, the day was changed to commemorate the birth of Jesus Christ.

“The tradition has continued to date and since the aim of Christmas is to celebrate Jesus since there is nothing bad in honouring Jesus. Also, the worship of the Sun God was done in Rome and not everywhere in the world, so it is not part of our history.

“We mark Christmas with the singing of songs as a day, which has now been consecrated.”

Source: http://www.punchng.com/news/christmas-is-idolatrous-kumuyi/


I heard he once told his members not to use internet, that it was of the devil? Pls is this true?
Music/Radio / Re: Satanic Music And Dance So Cherished By Christians In Nigeria. by chuky117: 3:04pm On Dec 20, 2013
Justeenaleo:
Sexual feelings r nt satanic, nd nt all love song arouses sexual feelings,African queen by 2face is a love song,no air by chris brown nd jordin sparks is a love song to name a few,a year without rain by selena gomez is a love song,so wats ur definition of love song?


In talking about love song, u first hav to understand what love means. Are you referring to worldly love, or the love of God? You know that God is love. So don't u confuse worldly love with Gods love. So any song that is based on worldly love, is not of God.
Business / Re: Watch Out For Scammers At Shoprite (ikeja) by chuky117: 2:27pm On Dec 16, 2013
Olugbenger: Op, you are wicked for exposing this. You are spoiling some poor folks source of income even when you claim to be very rich. embarassed embarassed


I don't know since when stealing became a source of income.
Religion / Re: Pastor Adeboye Warns Members About Sister Linda's Message Of Hell by chuky117: 2:15pm On Dec 15, 2013
Divepen: After the service and his prayers,Pastor E.A.Adeboye begged the members to wait for twenty(20 minutes),Then he told them about the scam by people who said he was sick,and the Mummy Adeboye was sick;He said they were all lies.
He warned against email inviting people to an unannonced message by him,that all this were lies.
Finally,he said a sister claimed she went to hell and heaven,that members sould not believe her,he remarked the she claimed all members of Redeemed would not make it to heaven;He said they were lies.
He warned his members not to listen to such messages.
Then he cited the story of Lazarus and the rich man,where Abraham said,'Even if i send someone from the dead they would not listen.'
He adviced members to use the bible and its law as their only Citerium for making heaven.

What is your view on this

http://jesushots./2013/12/14/pastor-adeboye-warns-members-about-sister-lindas-message-of-hell/




That story of someone going to hell and comming back and saying all sorts of things is just one of the weapons of the devil - deceit,fear. Christians should ignore that story
Politics / Re: If OBJ Had Died, Would Atiku Have Agreed To One Tenure by chuky117: 1:45pm On Dec 01, 2013
MidasT: Fellow country men of Nairaland, its time to be honest with ourselves. If OBJ had died during his first tenure as president of Nigeria, would Atiku have agreed to run for one tenure only, when he is entitled to two? Would the north ask him to step down or carry on with his two constitutionally allowed and guaranteed tenure? Honest opinions please, not hating #APC.



Very good question. I am waiting for answers
Politics / Re: BREAKING: Anambra Election – Obiano Is declared Winner by chuky117: 1:39pm On Dec 01, 2013
irunmoleaiye: bunch of hypocrite...... make APGA go win 2015 election nau.......Igbo can never rule NIGERIA with this your SENTIMENTAL Attitude......Stella Oduah mismanaged our funds you said she's our Daughter.....No wonder they are fighting so hard for their so called BIAFRA Republic....u guys should just watch while your OGA ON TOP Rules..... Yeye People

Congratulation to KANGAROO Governor to be CHIEF WILLIE OBIANO

As long as SOUTH WEST Remains INTACT nothing concern me.....If Igbo people like make dem elect cat or dog as their Governor....I don't give a S*hit.............



Bros, u don't need to exhibit ur bitter nd tribal instincts. Just follo the thread and make meaninful contributions here,u don't need to use harsh,insulting or derogatory words. Thank you.

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