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Foreign AffairsRe: If China Only Relies On Tourism Income. Can It Beat The Which Countries's GDP? by cnboy90(op): 7:40pm On Oct 09, 2019
MrBrownJay1:
Sorry, but wherever you got your info is completely WRONG...France is the most visited country on earth (89M in 2018)..followed closely by Spain (80M in 2018), the US and China are only 3rd and 4th.
Maybe, but no matter where you get the news. —— China receives 60 million foreign tourists every year.
Foreign AffairsIf China Only Relies On Tourism Income. Can It Beat The Which Countries's GDP? by cnboy90(op): 7:30pm On Oct 09, 2019
As we all know. China is one of the most popular countries in the world. it receives 60 million foreign tourists every year. China's tourism income is about $1 trillion.

Most Visited Countries in the World

United States: 76.9 million visitors.
China: 60.7 million visitors. ...
Italy: 58.3 million visitors. ...
Mexico: 39.3 million visitors. ...
United Kingdom: 37.7 million visitors. ...
Turkey: 37.6 million visitors. ...
Germany: 37.5 million visitors. ...
Thailand: 35.4 million visitors. ...

https://www.wildjunket.com/most-visited-countries/

China Tourism Target: $1 Trillion by 2020
https://financialtribune.com/articles/people-travel/56309/china-tourism-target-1-trillion-by-2020

So, if China only relies on tourism income. Which countries can it beat in GDP?
Foreign AffairsRe: Drone Captured Hundreds Of Blindfolded Secret Prisoners Ceased In Xinjiang China by cnboy90(m): 6:42pm On Oct 09, 2019
Carmit:
Really??

Can you explain number one better?
BTW, China is one of the most popular countries in the world. China receives 60 million foreign tourists every year. China can beat your GDP with tourism revenue alone. Forget the ridiculous Western propaganda.grin grin grin

Most Visited Countries in the World

United States: 76.9 million visitors.
China: 60.7 million visitors. ...
Italy: 58.3 million visitors. ...
Mexico: 39.3 million visitors. ...
United Kingdom: 37.7 million visitors. ...
Turkey: 37.6 million visitors. ...
Germany: 37.5 million visitors. ...
Thailand: 35.4 million visitors. ...

https://www.wildjunket.com/most-visited-countries/
Foreign AffairsRe: Drone Captured Hundreds Of Blindfolded Secret Prisoners Ceased In Xinjiang China by cnboy90(m):
Carmit:
Really??

Can you explain number one better?
Give me 5 minutes. I'll give you a list.

China Secretly Sold Saudi Arabia DF-21 Missiles With CIA ...
https://thediplomat.com/2014/01/china-secretly-sold-saudi-arabia-df-21-missiles-with-cia-approval/

Saudi Arabia to display for the first time Dong Feng DF-3 ballistic missile during a military parade
https://www.armyrecognition.com/may_2014_global_defense_security_news_uk/saudi_arabia_to_display_for_the_first_time_dong_feng_df-3_ballistic_missile_during_a_military_parade.html

China to open a drone factory in Saudi Arabia
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2017/03/28/china-to-open-a-drone-factory-in-saudi-arabia/

Saudis Use Chinese-made Cannons in Yemen
https://www.popsci.com/saudis-use-chinese-made-cannons-yemen/

China Secretly Sold Qatar Short-Range Ballistic Missiles
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/china-secretly-sold-qatar-short-range-ballistic-missiles-23770

How the UAE's Chinese-Made Drone Is Changing the War in yemen
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/27/drone-wars-how-the-uaes-chinese-made-drone-is-changing-the-war-in-yemen/

UAE allegedly using Chinese drones for deadly airstrikes in Libya
https://www.defensenews.com/unmanned/2019/05/02/uae-allegedly-using-chinese-drones-for-deadly-airstrikes-in-libya/

Turkey Is Ready To Export Chinese Ballistic Missiles
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turkey-is-ready-to-export-chinese-ballistic-missiles.521090/

Turkmenistan Shows Off New Chinese Rockets
https://eurasianet.org/turkmenistan-shows-off-new-chinese-rockets

China delivered HQ-9 air defense systems and Ylong-1 UAV to Turkmenistan
https://www.armyrecognition.com/february_2015_global_defense_security_news_uk/china_delivered_hq-9_air_defense_systems_and_ylong-1_uav_to_turkmenistan.html

Kazakhstan receives first Y-8 military transport aircraft from China
https://defence-blog.com/news/kazakhstan-receives-first-y-8-military-transport-aircraft.html

OMG,,,,Sorry, too much. We don't talk about JF-17 and 054AP in Pakistan.
Foreign AffairsRe: Drone Captured Hundreds Of Blindfolded Secret Prisoners Ceased In Xinjiang China by cnboy90(m): 6:05pm On Oct 09, 2019
Foreign AffairsRe: Drone Captured Hundreds Of Blindfolded Secret Prisoners Ceased In Xinjiang China by cnboy90(m): 5:48pm On Oct 09, 2019
Carmit:
Wow shocked

Why is the world silent though??

If this was in Africa all hell would have been let loose on the country
1. Because China is the protector of the Muslim world.
2. Because China is a permanent member of UNSC.
3. Because China has strong economic, military and industrial capabilities.
4, because this is Western propaganda, in fact. Xinjiang is richer and more advanced than most other countries in the world.
Foreign AffairsRe: Drone Captured Hundreds Of Blindfolded Secret Prisoners Ceased In Xinjiang China by cnboy90(m): 5:43pm On Oct 09, 2019
General0847:
China is the only country that bans Muslim celebrations without any consequences.
Mistake. and the United States, Britain, France, Germany... In fact, except for Muslim countries. The whole world hates Muslims.
Foreign AffairsRe: Serbia Buys Chinese Wing Loong Attack Drones by cnboy90(op): 12:14pm On Oct 07, 2019
Specifications (Wing Loong I)[edit]
Data from ,[4][6]

General characteristics

Crew: None (UAV)
Length: 9.05 m (29 ft 8 in)
Wingspan: 14 m (45 ft 11 in)
Height: 2.77 m (9 ft 1 in)
Gross weight: 1,100 kg (2,425 lb)
Propellers: 3-bladed
Performance

Maximum speed: 280 km/h (170 mph, 150 kn)
Range: 4,000 km (2,500 mi, 2,200 nmi)
Endurance: 20 hours
Service ceiling: 5,000 m (16,000 ft)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAIG_Wing_Loong
Foreign AffairsRe: Serbia Buys Chinese Wing Loong Attack Drones by cnboy90(op): 12:12pm On Oct 07, 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAIG_Wing_Loong

Current operators[edit]
China — In service with the People's Liberation Army Air Force[33][34][35]
Egypt — Reportedly exported to as early as 2016, first images released by the Egyptian military in October 2018.[34][35][36]
Indonesia — Contract signed in 2017, to be acquired in 2029.[37][38]
Kazakhstan — Two exported to in 2016, in service with the Kazakhstan Air Defence Forces[33]
Nigeria — Reportedly exported to[34]
Pakistan — A Wing Loong crashed in Pakistan on 18 June 2016 raising theories the country may be evaluating the system.[35][39] A Pakistani defence ministry official told a reporter that an unnamed UAV crashed on an "experimental flight", further fueling evaluating theories.[40] Two years later in October 2018, it was announced that Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and Chengdu Aircraft Corporation would jointly produce 48 Wing Loong II UAVs for use in the Pakistan Air Force.[41][42][43]
Saudi Arabia — Exported to in 2014[33]
Serbia — Ordered 16 Wing Loong II aircraft in September 2018, probably will be assembled in Serbia. [44]
United Arab Emirates — Exported to in 2011,[33][34][35] launch customer for Wing Loong II in 2017.[45] Used in Operation Decisive Storm successfully killing Saleh Ali al-Sammad, a senior Houthi leader in Yemen.[46]
Uzbekistan — Reportedly exported to in 2012[47]
Foreign AffairsSerbia Buys Chinese Wing Loong Attack Drones by cnboy90(op): 5:14am On Oct 06, 2019
https://www.defenseworld.net/uploads//news/big/wing_loon_1568187458.jpg
Serbia will become the first European country to acquire Chinese-origin UAVs as it plans to clinch a deal for 9 Wing Loong armed drones, with a possible future order of additional 15, from Beijing.

“This sale will greatly strengthen the Serbian military, which will gain capabilities it has not had in the past,” Serbian Defense Minister Aleksandar Vulin was quoted as saying by the media.

“The Chinese have very good pilotless aircraft, probably second only to the United States. They obviously copied some American systems [but] Chinese drones are very effective and very cheap,” said Miroslav Lazanski, a Belgrade-based military analyst, according to Stars and Stripes.

Developed by Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group, the Wing Loong or Pterodactyl-I is a Medium-Altitude Long-Endurance (MALE) drone used for surveillance and aerial reconnaissance. It is capable of being fitted with air-to-surface weapons for use in an UCAV role. It can carry 440 pounds combined of both weapons and reconnaissance gear, has a range of 2,500 miles and can remain aloft for 20 hours.

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/25437/Serbia_Buys_Chinese_Wing_Loong_Attack_Drones#.XZlou_lF6jk
Foreign AffairsRe: Turkey Is Fighting A Formidable Drone War In Libya by cnboy90(op): 9:11pm On Oct 05, 2019
cnboy90:
Turkey has given decisive support to Libya’s Tripoli-based government, supplying it with armed drones that have carried out a series of air strikes on the besieging eastern forces of General Khalifa Haftar.

Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 drones have carried out several air strikes on behalf of the Government of National Accord (GNA) and provided air support for its ground forces conducting counter-offensives, most notably helping them rout Haftar’s Libyan National Army (LNA) in the city of Gharyan in late June, which hitherto had served as a major logistical hub for the siege.

The LNA also has a fleet of Chinese-made Wing Loong II drones supplied by its main patron, the United Arab Emirates (UAE). They have attempted to destroy the GNA’s Bayraktar fleet, taking out a couple in air strikes against GNA bases.

Turkey appears to have successfully managed to replenish those losses with the most recent resupply of Bayraktars reportedly taking place in late August.

The GNA’s drones are based in Tripoli’s Mitiga International Airport and Misrata in northwestern Libya. The LNA carries out most of its air strikes from al-Jufra airbase in central Libya.

“The GNA received 12 Bayraktar TB2s in two batches – four and eight – between May and July,” said Arnaud Delalande, a freelance defence and security expert.

“At least half of them have been destroyed during UAE airstrikes using Wing Loong IIs,” he said. “The second batch delivered in July was to replace the losses of the first.”

“It seems that a third batch was delivered in the end of August following new losses over the summer.”

Levent Özgül, a Turkish defence analyst, estimated there were “at least eight Bayraktar TB2s delivered to the GNA and based in Misrata”.

Oliver Imhof, a Libya researcher for the UK-based non-profit Airwars, which documents air strikes and casualties in the Middle East and Libya, said that “the GNA received another delivery of Turkish drones around August 27.”

“The number isn’t really clear, but given the high volume of GNA strikes at the moment it should be similar to the six to eight drones it operated before,” Imhof said.

While the number of Emirati drones operating in Libya is unclear, Imhof said both sides appeared to have similar capabilities based on the number of strikes they have carried out against each other, but the Emirati Wing Loongs had a longer range than the Bayraktars.

Delalande also pointed out that the Tripoli government is at a disadvantage compared to its adversary “because the range of the Bayraktar is only 150 km without ground relay antennas contrary to Wing Loong, which use satellites”.

“The Bayraktars destroyed were all struck as they landed following their own missions,” he said.

“They were probably spotted by ISR (intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance)/Wing Loongs after their air strikes.”

But, Delalande said, Turkish drones based in Misrata appeared to be under some kind of “protection bubble … No retaliation strikes were carried out by UAE drones despite Turkish drones bombing an LNA convoy in Tarhuna,” he said. “This could be explained by the recent presence of an air defence system on the airbase.”

“It seems that Turkey deployed relay antennas in July to increase the range of their drones notably to strike al-Jufra and destroy two LNA Illyushin Il-76 military transport planes.”

This all indicates that Turkey is not only denying the UAE-backed LNA air supremacy in Libya but is also proving very capable of striking the LNA on the Tripoli government’s behalf.

At the same time, it appears that neither side can prevail over the other for now.

Özgül said an influx of more weaponry could potentially tip the balance in favour of the GNA.

“Turkey may try to send bigger TAI Anka-S armed MALE SİHA (Medium Altitude Long Endurance) drones,” he said. “However, operation and maintenance may be problematic for these bigger aircraft rather than the small and effective TB2s.”

The Anka-S, like the Wing Loong II, resembles the American MQ1A Predator drone although is slightly heavier.

More generally Turkish drones “are solid and robust, user-friendly and very effective compared to the Chinese series … Their small scale munitions (MAM-L and MAM-C) have pinpoint accuracy,” Özgül said.

He also anticipates that Turkey would likely continue to supply the GNA with such equipment.

But Turkish shipments of such equipment can be vulnerable. The air forces of Egypt and Sudan, for example, could easily intercept cargo planes while the Greek and Egyptian navies could intercept ships en route to Libya.

The key country that could hinder Turkey’s resupply efforts is Egypt.

“If Egyptian forces decide to intercept these shipments they can easily do so,” Özgül said.

Sebastien Roblin, a defence journalist and contributor to The National Interest, is sceptical that either the GNA or the LNA “can break their present stalemate through the aerial bombardment campaign, which will probably hit civilians at least as hard as any military targets.”

“Given the low cost of the drones, presumably both Turkey and Egypt and the UAE could continue deploying more into action, though one disadvantage Egypt and the UAE face is that they must acquire their drones from a third-party, China,” he said.

By contrast, the GNA has a more reliable supplier since Turkey builds its own armed drones and, therefore, is not at risk of having its supply chain potentially severed by a foreign supplier.

“The impression one gets is that for all the geographic breadth of LNA territory it currently doesn’t have enough support to break the GNA’s control over Tripoli and Misrata,” Roblin said.

Since Libya descended into chaos shortly after the Arab spring began in 2011, arms from the country have shown up in other war zones such as Mali and even Syria.

Imhof doubts that this would happen with either the GNA’s Bayraktar or the LNA’s Wing Loongs.

“As we see more states like China or Turkey producing armed and unarmed drones with very little restrictions on their proliferation, there is certainly a chance of them ending up in the hands of non-state actors,” he said.

“However, even though drones are often compared to video games, they are not as easy to operate.”

He cited the example of the GNA, which “still heavily relies on Turkish support to fly its drones … This might pose an obstacle to poorly resourced non-state actors.”

One solution Imhof suggested for preventing such lethal weapons systems from falling into the hands of non-state actors or terrorist groups is to “contractually bind the party purchasing the drone not to resell.”

“International agreements, which already exist for the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, for example, are also an option but difficult to reach,” he said.

In the case of Libya, Imhof said “it would certainly help if Turkey and the UAE respected the UN arms embargo.

“Other countries like the United States have also done a very poor job in penalising violations of the embargo,” he said.

https://ahvalnews.com/libya/turkey-fighting-formidable-drone-war-libya
I'm not looking down turkey.
just turkey garbage? lollll
Foreign AffairsTurkey Is Fighting A Formidable Drone War In Libya by cnboy90(op): 9:04pm On Oct 05, 2019
Turkey has given decisive support to Libya’s Tripoli-based government, supplying it with armed drones that have carried out a series of air strikes on the besieging eastern forces of General Khalifa Haftar.

Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 drones have carried out several air strikes on behalf of the Government of National Accord (GNA) and provided air support for its ground forces conducting counter-offensives, most notably helping them rout Haftar’s Libyan National Army (LNA) in the city of Gharyan in late June, which hitherto had served as a major logistical hub for the siege.

The LNA also has a fleet of Chinese-made Wing Loong II drones supplied by its main patron, the United Arab Emirates (UAE). They have attempted to destroy the GNA’s Bayraktar fleet, taking out a couple in air strikes against GNA bases.

Turkey appears to have successfully managed to replenish those losses with the most recent resupply of Bayraktars reportedly taking place in late August.

The GNA’s drones are based in Tripoli’s Mitiga International Airport and Misrata in northwestern Libya. The LNA carries out most of its air strikes from al-Jufra airbase in central Libya.

“The GNA received 12 Bayraktar TB2s in two batches – four and eight – between May and July,” said Arnaud Delalande, a freelance defence and security expert.

“At least half of them have been destroyed during UAE airstrikes using Wing Loong IIs,” he said. “The second batch delivered in July was to replace the losses of the first.”

“It seems that a third batch was delivered in the end of August following new losses over the summer.”

Levent Özgül, a Turkish defence analyst, estimated there were “at least eight Bayraktar TB2s delivered to the GNA and based in Misrata”.

Oliver Imhof, a Libya researcher for the UK-based non-profit Airwars, which documents air strikes and casualties in the Middle East and Libya, said that “the GNA received another delivery of Turkish drones around August 27.”

“The number isn’t really clear, but given the high volume of GNA strikes at the moment it should be similar to the six to eight drones it operated before,” Imhof said.

While the number of Emirati drones operating in Libya is unclear, Imhof said both sides appeared to have similar capabilities based on the number of strikes they have carried out against each other, but the Emirati Wing Loongs had a longer range than the Bayraktars.

Delalande also pointed out that the Tripoli government is at a disadvantage compared to its adversary “because the range of the Bayraktar is only 150 km without ground relay antennas contrary to Wing Loong, which use satellites”.

“The Bayraktars destroyed were all struck as they landed following their own missions,” he said.

“They were probably spotted by ISR (intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance)/Wing Loongs after their air strikes.”

But, Delalande said, Turkish drones based in Misrata appeared to be under some kind of “protection bubble … No retaliation strikes were carried out by UAE drones despite Turkish drones bombing an LNA convoy in Tarhuna,” he said. “This could be explained by the recent presence of an air defence system on the airbase.”

“It seems that Turkey deployed relay antennas in July to increase the range of their drones notably to strike al-Jufra and destroy two LNA Illyushin Il-76 military transport planes.”

This all indicates that Turkey is not only denying the UAE-backed LNA air supremacy in Libya but is also proving very capable of striking the LNA on the Tripoli government’s behalf.

At the same time, it appears that neither side can prevail over the other for now.

Özgül said an influx of more weaponry could potentially tip the balance in favour of the GNA.

“Turkey may try to send bigger TAI Anka-S armed MALE SİHA (Medium Altitude Long Endurance) drones,” he said. “However, operation and maintenance may be problematic for these bigger aircraft rather than the small and effective TB2s.”

The Anka-S, like the Wing Loong II, resembles the American MQ1A Predator drone although is slightly heavier.

More generally Turkish drones “are solid and robust, user-friendly and very effective compared to the Chinese series … Their small scale munitions (MAM-L and MAM-C) have pinpoint accuracy,” Özgül said.

He also anticipates that Turkey would likely continue to supply the GNA with such equipment.

But Turkish shipments of such equipment can be vulnerable. The air forces of Egypt and Sudan, for example, could easily intercept cargo planes while the Greek and Egyptian navies could intercept ships en route to Libya.

The key country that could hinder Turkey’s resupply efforts is Egypt.

“If Egyptian forces decide to intercept these shipments they can easily do so,” Özgül said.

Sebastien Roblin, a defence journalist and contributor to The National Interest, is sceptical that either the GNA or the LNA “can break their present stalemate through the aerial bombardment campaign, which will probably hit civilians at least as hard as any military targets.”

“Given the low cost of the drones, presumably both Turkey and Egypt and the UAE could continue deploying more into action, though one disadvantage Egypt and the UAE face is that they must acquire their drones from a third-party, China,” he said.

By contrast, the GNA has a more reliable supplier since Turkey builds its own armed drones and, therefore, is not at risk of having its supply chain potentially severed by a foreign supplier.

“The impression one gets is that for all the geographic breadth of LNA territory it currently doesn’t have enough support to break the GNA’s control over Tripoli and Misrata,” Roblin said.

Since Libya descended into chaos shortly after the Arab spring began in 2011, arms from the country have shown up in other war zones such as Mali and even Syria.

Imhof doubts that this would happen with either the GNA’s Bayraktar or the LNA’s Wing Loongs.

“As we see more states like China or Turkey producing armed and unarmed drones with very little restrictions on their proliferation, there is certainly a chance of them ending up in the hands of non-state actors,” he said.

“However, even though drones are often compared to video games, they are not as easy to operate.”

He cited the example of the GNA, which “still heavily relies on Turkish support to fly its drones … This might pose an obstacle to poorly resourced non-state actors.”

One solution Imhof suggested for preventing such lethal weapons systems from falling into the hands of non-state actors or terrorist groups is to “contractually bind the party purchasing the drone not to resell.”

“International agreements, which already exist for the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, for example, are also an option but difficult to reach,” he said.

In the case of Libya, Imhof said “it would certainly help if Turkey and the UAE respected the UN arms embargo.

“Other countries like the United States have also done a very poor job in penalising violations of the embargo,” he said.

https://ahvalnews.com/libya/turkey-fighting-formidable-drone-war-libya
Foreign AffairsKing Of Southwest China - Chengdu by cnboy90(op):
Chengdu —— the capital of Sichuan Province. An important city in southwestern China. It is one of China's aviation industry centers. and the military command center in the Western Theatre of China. Chengdu mainly produces J-7, J-10, J-10B, J-10C, J-20. and JF-17. and unmanned attack aircraft CH-4, CH-5.

Chengdu is now one of the most important economic, financial, commercial, cultural, transportation, and communication centers in Western China. Its economy is diverse, characterized by the machinery, automobile, medicine, food, and information technology industries. Chengdu Shuangliu International Airport, a hub of Air China and Sichuan Airlines, is one of the 30 busiest airports in the world, and the Chengdu railway station is one of the six biggest in China. Chengdu also hosts many international companies and more than 12 consulates; more than 270 Fortune 500 companies have established branches in Chengdu.[12] Chengdu is the seat of the Western Theatre Command region of the People's Liberation Army.[13] Chengdu will host the Summer Universiade in 2021, an international multi-sport event. It is considered one of the most livable cities in China.[14][15]

Chengdu's culture largely reflects that of its province, Sichuan; in 2011, it was recognized by UNESCO as a city of gastronomy.[16] It is associated with the giant panda, a Chinese national symbol, which inhabits the area of Sichuan; the city is home to the Chengdu Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding.

Urban area: 11,000 square kilometers. Population: 16 million. Per capita GDP: 14500 USD(2017).

https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2015/04/b56fb7429ba4431ea0f6fe25.jpg
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https://chengdu-expat.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Chengdu-Expat-skyline-photo.jpg
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Foreign AffairsChina Launches 1st Type 075 LHD For PLAN by cnboy90(op): 12:19pm On Sep 25, 2019
https://www.navalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/China-Launches-1st-Type-075-LHD-for-PLAN-1-770x410.jpg
China Launched its 1st Type 075 LHD this morning.

The People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy), the customer of the vessel, said in a statement that after a brief ceremony starting at 9:20 am at a CSSC’s Hudong-Zhonghua shipyard, waters began to be pumped into a dry dock in which the ship’s hull was built.

Participants at the ceremony – officials from the central and Shanghai governments, officers from the Central Military Commission’s Equipment Development Department and the PLA Navy, executives of the State-owned conglomerate China State Shipbuilding Corp as well as the vessel’s designers and construction workers – applauded as they watched the launch process, the statement said, without providing more details about the event.


According to the PLAN, the new class of ship was domestically developed and constructed. It will have a strong capability to carry out amphibious combat and other tasks.

The Chinese navy added that in the next phase, engineers will start outfitting and fine-tuning the vessel’s equipment and then conduct mooring tests and sea trials.

Type 075 compared to similar vessels
The Chinese Navy officially started in 2011 development work on the Type 075, a helicopter carrier project displacing more than 30,000 tonnes. Its aim is likely to increase the “vertical” amphibious assault capability with the very mountainous East Coast of Taiwan in mind.

As for its specifications, rumors speak of “36,000 tons of displacement”, “capacity of 28 helicopters”, “diesel engine with the 9,000 kW 16PC2-6B” and “four CIWS including two HQ-10 and two H/PJ-11”.

While the Type 075 appears to slightly smaller than the U.S. Navy’s LHA, it is larger compared to French or Spanish/Australian LHD equivalents. It is actually pretty close in size to Italy’s future Trieste LHD.


The first Type 075 was constructed in record time (this has become the norm nowadays, for Chinese shipbuilding: extremely fast construction pace that no one can match). A second vessel of the class is already under construction while a larger version is rumored to be planned.


A second Type 075 vessel is already under construction (on the right)
When fully operational, the new Type 075 LHD will bolster the PLAN’s amphibious capabilities, which today rely on the Type 071 LPD design.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/09/china-launches-1st-type-075-lhd-for-plan/

Foreign AffairsRe: China Could Conquer Taiwan. by cnboy90(m): 6:29am On Sep 25, 2019
geniusfrost:
China Could Conquer Taiwan, But It Would Be In For a Very Tough Fight
September 22, 2019
Key point:It would be very bloody and not very easy.
With President Xi Jinping having consolidated his power at the 19th Party Congress, and the United States increasingly distracted at home, it may seem like a given that China will reestablish its predominance over the Asia-Pacific region. A new study casts doubt on this, however, arguing that Beijing doesn’t have the military power to defeat its neighbors. In fact, it probably can’t even conquer Taiwan.
The new study by Michael Beckley, an Assistant Professor of Political Science at Tufts University, was publishedin the academic journalInternational Security. In the article, Beckley argues that China’s neighbors could thwart Chinese military aggression through anti-access/area denial strategies with only minimal U.S. assistance.
“My main finding is that there is a budding balance of military power in East Asia, which the United States can reinforce at moderate risk to U.S. forces,” Beckley writes in the article. “Furthermore, this balance of power will remain stable for years to come, because China cannot afford the power-projection capabilities it would need to overcome the A2/AD forces of its neighbors. The main reasons are that power projection forces are more expensive than A2/AD forces by an order of magnitude.”
According to the Constitution of the Republic of China, Taiwan is a province of China.
Foreign AffairsRe: China And Thailand Sign Shipbuilding Agreement For Type 071E LPD by cnboy90(op): 1:01pm On Sep 11, 2019
Type 071 amphibious transport dock

Foreign AffairsChina And Thailand Sign Shipbuilding Agreement For Type 071E LPD by cnboy90(op): 12:52pm On Sep 11, 2019
https://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/attachement/jpg/site2/20190911/309c2370489b1ee3015a3d.jpg
Heads from China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC) attend the signing ceremony.
BEIJING, Sept. 11 (Chinamil) -- China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC) and the Royal Thai Navy held the signing ceremony of the shipbuilding agreement on exporting Type 071E landing platform dock (LPD) in Beijing on Sept 9. This is the first time for China to export abroad amphibious transport dock, or dock landing ship, and also marks a major achievement between China and Thailand in comprehensive strategic cooperation, which is of great significance for the further deepening of China-Thailand military trade cooperation and promotion of regional peace and stability. Leaders from relevant state and military departments of both countries attended the signing ceremony.

Yang Jincheng, president of CSIC, said that CSIC and the Royal Thai Navy share a long history of cooperation and yield fruitful results from this cooperation. Since the establishment of the comprehensive strategic cooperative partnership between China and Thailand in 2012, the friendly relation between the two countries has continuously deepened, laying a solid foundation for CSIC and the Royal Thai Navy to carry out more extensive and pragmatic project cooperation. With advanced design and shipbuilding capability, high product quality and effective quality assurance system, CSIC will build this project into an "excellent project" of its military trade brand and a new example of friendly cooperation between CSIC and the Royal Thai Navy, the Chinese and Thailand governments as well as the Chinese and Thai people.


It is reported that being a specific model for international trade, Type 071E has been integrated with several major improvements and upgrades in comparison with its prototype, based on the experience and lessons accumulated through years of practice and the needs of potential foreign trade customers.It is even more advanced in technology and more powerful in comprehensive performance than the PLA’s in-commission Type 071 integrated LPD.

As for the significant advantages of Type 071E, there have been three points to make. First, it has reached the world's advanced level in terms of technology. As far as integrated operation capability is concerned, it is not left behind by any competitors. Second, its prototype, Type 071 integrated landing ship, has been serving in the Chinese Navy for many years and proven to be a mature platform. Third, compared with landing ship platforms provided by many developed countries, Type 071E is more competitive in cost performance and could be said to be of good quality and low price.

http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2019-09/11/content_9618177.htm
Foreign AffairsRe: US Surveillance Reveals China's Mysterious Project On South China Sea by cnboy90(m): 5:39am On Sep 08, 2019
bigl:
Sometimes I wonder what countries like china or Russia will do if they were world power ....

And the last time I checked, china is a communist country. Go figure that out.

I believe US is there for checks and balances.

If not, do you think all these terrorists wouldn't have nuked us to Stone Age?

Anyway, to everyone shouting Russia/China, lets wait and see how they will handle world peace/fight terrorists, especially in Nigeria.

US, etc may be bullies according to some people but I think I still prefer such bullies than Russian/Chinese et al
Tell you a secret. Promise me not to tell anyone.

China is one of the United Nations P5.
China is one of the five legal nuclear weapon states in the world.
China's currency is the world's top 3 international currency, the IMF elite reserve currency, enjoy special drawing rights(SDR). It is called "paper gold".
China leads Asia Investment Bank and SCO(Shanghai Cooperation Organization).
The world's military power ranks in the top three.
The world arms exports rank in the top three.
And other things. For example, the world's second largest economy. with foreign exchange reserves of $3 trillion, the world's largest creditor country..........No discussion, because you can't understand.

You say China is a Communist country, so... Does this give you some kind of illusion?

So how many secrets have these poor and backward capitalist countries kept from you?
Foreign AffairsRe: China Building 'most Advanced' Naval Warship For Pakistan by cnboy90(op): 10:32am On Sep 07, 2019
garetz:
China will never sell her most advanced naval warship to another country. Pakistan will be very foolish to believe that
Tell me - who will sell their most advanced warships to other countries?

And China did not say that 054AP is China's most advanced warship.
Foreign AffairsChina Building 'most Advanced' Naval Warship For Pakistan by cnboy90(op): 8:13pm On Sep 05, 2019
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China has started building for Pakistan, its "all-weather ally", one of its "most advanced" naval warships as part of a defence agreement to maintain a "balance of power" in the Indian Ocean, the media reported on Wednesday.

The China Daily quoted China State Shipbuilding Corp (CSSC) -- one of the largest state-owned defence contractor -- as saying that the construction of the ship has started in the Hudong-Zhonghua shipyard in Shanghai and it is a version of China's most advanced guided missile frigate, without specifying its type.

The warship will be equipped with modern detection and weapon systems and will be capable of anti-ship, anti-submarine and air-defence operations, the CSSC said.

According to the Pakistani Navy, the ship's class is Type 054AP, which means it is based on the Type 054A of the People's Liberation Army Navy. It previously said four such ships have been ordered, according to the report.

Once constructed, the warship "will be one of the largest and technologically advanced platforms of Pakistan's Navy and strengthen the country's capability to respond to future challenges, maintain peace and stability and the balance of power in the Indian Ocean region", the report said.

It will also support the Pakistani Navy's initiative of securing sea lanes for international shipping by patrolling distant waters, the CSSC said.

According to the report, Type 054A was the best frigate in service with the PLA Navy. It cited military sources as saying that the ship had a fully loaded displacement of about 4,000 metric tonnes and was equipped with advanced radars and missiles.

About 30 Type 054As are in service with the PLA Navy, observers said.

An insider in China's shipbuilding sector with knowledge of the Type 054AP programme told the China Daily that the ship is the largest and most powerful combat vessel China ever exported.

"Based on pictures circulating on the Internet, the ship will have vertical launch cells that can fire Chinese HQ-16 air-defence missiles and other kinds of missiles. Vertical launch cells will bring flexibility to the user in terms of weapons portfolio, thus giving it a stronger fighting capability," he said.

"The Type 054AP is the best frigate Pakistan can access in the international market," said the report, citing the insider.

"The service of Type 054APs will double the combat power of the Pakistani Navy's surface fleet," he added.

Foreign AffairsRe: Bolton Claims China Cloned F-35 By Stealing Its Secrets To Design J 20 by cnboy90(m): 5:59am On Aug 30, 2019
Bolton's face is cloned my D#ick.
Foreign AffairsRe: China's New Amphibious Assault Ship Is A Monster by cnboy90(op): 5:21am On Aug 30, 2019
RyanD147:
Sometimes when I read news coming out from Africa and others from the rest of the world, I am tempted to say, “we don’t come from the same God”.
huh huh
Foreign AffairsRe: China's New Amphibious Assault Ship Is A Monster by cnboy90(op): 5:20am On Aug 30, 2019
Cletus77:
The funny thing is that World powers are allowed to have nuclear weapons and develop all kinds of machineries they want while other nations are not allowed to own them or even build undecided

Welcome to planet Earth!
Read the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty(NPT).
Foreign AffairsRe: China's New Amphibious Assault Ship Is A Monster by cnboy90(op): 6:11pm On Aug 29, 2019
PureGoldh:
Pictures please
Google—— Chinese type 075

Foreign AffairsChina's New Amphibious Assault Ship Is A Monster by cnboy90(op): 5:57pm On Aug 29, 2019
The vessels will give China a high-end amphibious assault capability that can be used both regionally and far from home.


The development and fielding of China's fixed-wing aircraft carriers grab all the headlines, but another class of ship that is currently under construction also deserves international attention. The Type 075 landing helicopter dock (LHD) will be the People's Liberation Army Navy's (PLAN) most powerful amphibious assault ship and will usher in a new era of capabilities for the PLAN. As you can see by the images in this article, this ship is remarkably large. Some think it will displace around 40,000 tons, nearly equaling the displacement of America's own Wasp-class LHD, while others put it a bit lower, between 30,000 and 35,000 tons. Either way, this is an impressive warship that outsizes the vast majority of its international counterparts. These ships—three of which are on order—will become the centerpiece of China's increasingly concerning amphibious force.

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These flattops are thought to be able to carry around 30 helicopters of different types, many hundreds of infantrymen and their vehicles, and a pair of Landing Craft Air Cushion (LCAC) craft—the Type 726, which is basically a knockoff of the U.S. Navy's LCAC—or other assorted landing craft to convey its troops to shore. Once again, we are talking about similar capabilities to the U.S. Navy Wasp class.


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Type 726 LCAC.

Although there are certainly no shortage of rumors regarding the possibility, there is no evidence that any sort of short-takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) fixed-wing jet aircraft is slated for these ships in the near term, although it wouldn't be surprising if the Type 075 was designed with the potential to accommodate such an aircraft in the future. It is widely understood that China is at least researching how to build such an aircraft.

China navy type 075 LHD latest photos pic.twitter.com/4Jzzmot3FM

— 龙龑之 (@Loongnaval) August 20, 2019
An interesting graphical illustration of the PLAN's Type 075 showing its current progress (July 2019).

via 'baoxiuyuan'/CJDBY-forum pic.twitter.com/kEdjW8NrXm

— @Rupprecht_A (@RupprechtDeino) July 5, 2019
These vessels will operate alongside other new amphibious ships, namely the Type 071 amphibious transport dock (LPD) that serve in a similar role as the U.S. Navy's San Antonio (LPD-17) class. China also has a variety of more traditional amphibious landing ships that remain in service. In addition, the PLAN has a very unique capability in the form of the massive Zubr class hovercraft that move large payloads of armor and personnel rapidly over relatively long distances without the need for any infrastructure to bring it all ashore. You can read all about how China obtained the Zubr class and how its unique capabilities can be put to work suddenly in this past piece of mine.


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So, what we are seeing here is China investing heavily to build itself an amphibious capability that is second only to the United States. That is a very big deal considering the country's controversial strategic and territorial aims. Beijing's ability to realize an invasion of Taiwan, for instance, would be enhanced significantly by these ships. But the multitude of other disputes over territory, like the one regarding the Senkaku Islands and those over large swathes of the South China Sea, also play into the utility of such a high-end amphibious force.

Even China's increasingly militarized manmade islands could be protected by these vessels and the shock troops and helicopters they hold. They could also be used to rapidly resupply these island outposts during a crisis or when their dock facilities have been destroyed. They also pose a real threat to the primary land holdings of regional competitors, like Japan, or countries that border the South China Sea, in a more traditional conflict.

China has also been increasingly focused on drilling to rapidly seize islands, sometimes alongside their Russian allies. These vessels will dramatically enhance their ability to realize such a military action and are ideal for fielding allied forces that could help in doing so.


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The Wasp class USS Kearsarge. China's LHDs will provide roughly similar capabilities.

Yet beyond the region itself, these ships offer true 'bluewater' capability. They can deploy over vast distances and sustain operations far from home. Considering China's increasing military footprint and influence abroad, including the opening of naval bases thousands of miles from Chinese territory, this isn't all that surprising. Beijing needs a way to protect its holdings and interests far from home should the need arise. Few capabilities are better suited for such a mission than vessels like the Type 075 and Type 071. These ships will also sail with their own heavily armed escorts, as well, protecting them from aerial and subsurface attacks. So, we are talking about the ability to wield serious naval power projection.

The first Type 075 looks remarkably complete in recent photos of it being constructed in Shanghai’s Hudong Zhonghua shipyards. I would imagine that it would be ready to be launched by early next year. When that happens, it will be yet another wakeup call for many that China is rapidly expanding the quantity and quality of its maritime capabilities. The fact that they are investing so heavily into amphibious capabilities, in particular, ones that have bluewater reach no less, is an indication not just of China's territorial ambitions, but also of its global ones, as well.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29526/chinas-new-amphibious-assault-ship-is-a-monster
Foreign AffairsIndia, Please Stop Deceiving The World And Your People. by cnboy90(op): 4:56pm On Mar 18, 2019
I was shocked.

How can a country to deceive the world and its people?
How can its people believe a lie against common sense?

We say that a lie repeats a thousand times and becomes truth. So let 1.3 billion
people believe a lie, need to repeat many times?

A country is playing the role of "moral guardian, Virgin Mary, Savior". How to repeat a lie again and again?

Even now, we see from the “South Asia Virgin” lies again.

Nehru 'Original Sinner', Favoured China for UN Security Council Seat, Says Jaitley
https://www.news18.com/news/politic...curity-council-seat-says-jaitley-2066719.html

Who is the South Asia Virgin? Congratulations to India!

Even in 2019, I have to repeat a common sense again!

Here we need to repeat some facts.

1. 1945, China is one of the founding members of the United Nations (US, USSR, Britain, France, China). China's Security Council status is respected by the Anti-Fascist League(US, USSR, Britain, Poland, Canada, Australia, Yugoslavia, Ethiopia,Greece, Norway, Turkey, Holland, Belgium, France etc).

2, 1971, China is "return" to the United Nations. Not "Join". China’s permanent seat on the Security Council is “restore”. Not others' mercy". Not "begging"

3, China regains its permanent seat on the Security Council by a majority vote(76 votes). btw, the USSR, Britain and France also voted in favour. the US opposes China or supports another country to become a member of the Security Council. in fact, it doesn't make any sense...

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758

The United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758 was passed in response to the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1668 that required any change in China's representation in the UN be determined by a two-thirds vote referring to Article 18[1] of the UN Charter. The resolution, passed on 25 October 1971, recognized the People's Republic of China (PRC) as "the only legitimate representative of China to the United Nations" and removed the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek from the United Nations.[2]

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Green is in favor. Red is against. Blue is abstention.

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I can understand India's desire to become a global power. But I hope Indians understand. no country can rely on lies to become a global power.

thank you.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/india-please-stop-deceiving-the-world-and-your-people.608574/

PoliticsPakistan Approves Nigerian JF-17 Production by cnboy90(op): 4:16pm On Oct 27, 2018
Air Platforms
Pakistan approves Nigerian JF-17 production
Jeremy Binnie, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
25 October 2018


The Pakistani government’s Economic Coordination Committee (ECC) has approved a USD184.3 million sovereign guarantee covering the production of three PAC/CAC JF-17 Thunder fighters for Nigeria under a recently signed contract, the Pakistan Express Tribune reported on 24 October.

This is the first confirmation from Pakistan that Abuja has signed a contract for the JF-17, although payments totalling NGN19.7 billion (USD54 billion) were put aside for the aircraft in Nigeria’s 2016 and 2018 budgets.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-approves-nigerian-jf-17-production.583452/
TravelChinese-built Mecca Light Railway Praised By Hajj Pilgrims by cnboy90(op): 8:09pm On Oct 17, 2018
The Mecca Light Railway, built and operated by China Railway Construction Corporation Limited (CRCC), yet again proved to be a huge success during the recently concluded annual Hajj pilgrimage that saw over two million visitors this year.

The elevated light rail, also known as Mecca Metro, whisked millions of pilgrims between holy sites during the five days of Hajj from August 19 to 24, with many acknowledging the great convenience the railway network has brought to the overall experience.

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The Mecca Metro is aimed at easing traffic congestion on the road during the Hajj and provides a convenient transportation option for pilgrims. /Photo via CIC, Saudi Arabia

"It's a revolution. A great example of modern transportation in Islam's holiest centers and one of the oldest cities in the Arab world," said Asifa Anjoom, a Pakistani pilgrim who visited Mecca for the first time.

"The rail network has made commuting between the city's various points of interest during the Hajj so convenient" she said in praise of the project.

"China is known for building impressive infrastructure and connectivity projects. It is no surprise that they have done a wonderful job in building and operating the Mecca Metro," said Egyptian Mohammed Naguib, another pilgrim who availed the services.

Li Chongyang, the vice general manager of CRCC, earlier told Xinhua news agency that the light rail system is estimated to have safely operated 2.5 million trips in the Hajj season.

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Muslim pilgrims ride on a metro from Arafat area to Mina during the annual Hajj season in the western Saudi city of Mecca, August 22, 2018. /VCG Photo

The CRCC won the bidding to build the 18-kilometer light rail line and nine stations in 2009. After completing the 1.8-billion-US-dollar-project in 16 months, the Chinese company also operated the rail line from 2010 and 2014 during which it ran over 15 million trips.

In 2015, the operations were transferred to the Saudi government but earlier in April this year, the CRCC entered into a new operations contract worth 350 million Saudi riyals (93 million US dollars).

The light rail, which is the first railway built by a Chinese company in the Middle East, is aimed at easing traffic congestion on the road during the Hajj and provide a convenient transportation option for pilgrims as it links three main Hajj destinations.

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The Haramain High-Speed Railway, which is scheduled to open in September 2018, will connect the two holiest Islamic cities of Mecca and Medina.

The Mecca Metro project is the first of two rail links aimed at easing pilgrim traffic. The much larger Haramain High-Speed Rail project - being built at a cost of 60 billion Saudi riyals (16 billion US dollars) - will connect Islam's holiest city Mecca with its second holiest, Medina, and is expected to open this September.

Two Chinese companies including CRCC and China South Locomotive and Rolling Stock (CSLRS) are involved in the project as part of different consortiums. Construction started in March 2009.

The 450-kilometer electric railway is designed to carry 60 million passengers a year, including millions of Hajj and Umrah pilgrims, through its 35 trains.

Using electric propulsion that will drive the trains to an operating speed of 300 kilometers per hour (km/h), the express train is expected to cut travel time between the cities of Mecca and Madinah to under two hours, instead of six hours by bus, according to a Gulf News report.

The trains, named the Haramain Express, are designed to reach speeds of up to 360 km/h and have been undergoing tests since the end of 2017. In December 2016, Haramain High-Speed Rail project director Bassam bin Ahmed Ghulman said it is the largest transportation project in the Middle East and one of the largest public transportation projects in the world.

China's 'Railway Diplomacy'

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Iranian officials applaud on the platform as the first train connecting China and Iran arrives at Tehran railway station, February 15, 2016. /VCG Photo

Chinese firms are in the forefront of railway construction in the wider Middle East region as many countries boost their spending on creating new or upgrading existing rail infrastructure.

In addition to the networks in Saudi Arabia, Chinese companies have taken up railway projects in Turkey, Iran, Israel, Egypt, Ethiopia and Djibouti.

According to business intelligence firm MEED, rail contracts worth 16 billion US dollars are set to be awarded in the Middle East and North Africa this year. The longer-term pipeline projects could reach well above 200 billion US dollars. No wonder that the Chinese firms are hoping to cash in on the prospects.

China's foray into the construction of railways across the region has been described by experts as 'Railway Diplomacy' and is at the heart of the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) to connect Asia, Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

(Cover: The Mecca Metro whisked millions of pilgrims between the holy sites in Mecca during the five days of Hajj from August 19 to 24. /Photo via CIC, Saudi Arabia)

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chinese-built-mecca-light-railway-praised-by-hajj-pilgrims.577742/
Foreign AffairsChinese Armed Drones Now Flying Across Mideast Battlefields by cnboy90(op): 4:44pm On Oct 17, 2018
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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — High above Yemen’s rebel-held city of Hodeida, a drone controlled by Emirati forces hovered as an SUV carrying a top Shiite Houthi rebel official turned onto a small street and stopped, waiting for another vehicle in its convoy to catch up.

Seconds later, the SUV exploded in flames, killing Saleh al-Samad, a top political figure.

The drone that fired that missile in April was not one of the many American aircraft that have been buzzing across the skies of Yemen, Iraq and Afghanistan since Sept. 11, 2001. It was Chinese.


Across the Middle East, countries locked out of purchasing U.S.-made drones due to rules over excessive civilian casualties are being wooed by Chinese arms dealers, who are world’s main distributor of armed drones.

“The Chinese product now doesn’t lack technology, it only lacks market share,” said Song Zhongping, a Chinese military analyst and former lecturer at the People’s Liberation Army Rocket Force University of Engineering. “And the United States restricting its arms exports is precisely what gives China a great opportunity.”

The sales are helping expand Chinese influence across a region vital to American security interests.

“It’s a hedging strategy and the Chinese will look to benefit from that,” said Douglas Barrie, an airpower specialist at the International Institute for Strategic Studies. “I think the Chinese are far less liable to be swayed by concerns over civilian casualties,” he said.

At the start of the year, a satellite passing over southern Saudi Arabia photographed U.S.-made surveillance drones at an airfield, alongside Chinese-manufactured armed ones.

According to the Center for the Study of the Drone at New York’s Bard College, that was the first documented example of the two drone systems being used in the war in Yemen. The country has emerged as a “sort of a testing ground for these strike-capable drones,” said Dan Gettinger, the co-director of the Center for the Study of the Drone. “There’s a rapid turnaround from delivery to deployment.”

U.S. drones were first used in Yemen to kill suspected al-Qaida militants in 2002.

One of the biggest Chinese exports is the Cai-Hong, or Rainbow, series made by the state-owned China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp., or CASC, the largest contractor for the Chinese space program.


CASC’s CH-4 and CH-5 models are on a par with San Diego-based General Atomics’ Predator and Reaper drones, and much cheaper. Independent analysts say the Chinese models lag behind their American counterparts but the technology is good enough to justify the price tag, which might be half or less.

A CASC executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to journalists, said cutting-edge U.S. models like Boeing Co.’s Stingray, introduced this year for the U.S. Navy, still hold a technological advantage.

And while price is an advantage, so too is a more relaxed attitude toward how drones are used, said Ulrike Franke, an expert on drones and policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations

Since 2014, China has sold more than 30 CH-4′s to countries including Saudi Arabia and Iraq in deals worth over $700 million, according to CASC. Ten countries are currently in negotiations to purchase the CH-4, according to the firm.

Last year, China sold to the UAE the Wing Loong II, an armed unmanned aerial vehicle roughly equivalent to the American MQ-9 Reaper.

“In recent years, all types of drones have proven their value and importance through a high degree of use in warfare, and the military has noticed,” said the top CASC executive. “Many countries are now speeding up the development for these weapons systems, including China.”

During President Xi Jinping’s five years in power, China has stepped up spending on stealth fighters and aircraft carriers for its own military, while boosting sales of advanced equipment such as attack submarines to close allies like Pakistan.

China still lags behind the U.S., Russia, France, and Germany in total arms sales but it’s catching up. Chinese arms exports rose by 38 percent between 2008-12 and 2013-17, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, which tracks the global arms trade.

Mounting criticism over the rising civilian death toll in Yemen prompted the U.S. to impose restrictions on drone sales, forcing foreign countries to go through the U.S. government to buy armed drones, including those with laser-guidance systems.

The Washington-based New America Foundation estimates more than 240 drone strikes in Yemen have killed more than 1,300 people, including at least 111 civilians.

But with China’s drone sales booming, there’s growing pressure from U.S. arms makers to remove restrictions to let them catch up.

After some U.S. lawmakers urged President Donald Trump to loosen controls and let General Atomics sell its armed Reapers to Jordan and the UAE, the administration on April 19 permitted U.S. manufacturers to directly market and sell drones, including armed versions.

The government must still approve and license the sales, which are also contingent on human rights and proliferation reviews and congressional authorization.

General Atomics did not respond to a request for comment.

China doesn’t routinely announce arms sales like the U.S. and others, but a review of drone spottings gives some indication of who its customers are.

— In Iraq in October 2015, the country’s then-defense minister inspected a CH-4 drone at an air base in the city of Kut.

— Chinese armed drones have been operating at Jordan’s Zarqa Airport, at an air base in Pakistan and from bases in Egypt in the Sinai Peninsula and near its border with Libya, according to satellite photos analyzed by the Center for the Study of the Drone.

— Satellite photographs taken of a mysterious air base in the United Arab Emirates’ deep south — a desert area known as the Empty Quarter — appear to show three Wing Loong IIs, IHS Jane’s Defense Weekly reported in January.

— Two CH-4s were spotted by satellite alongside surveillance-only Predators purchased by the UAE at Jizan Regional Airport in southern Saudi Arabia, near the kingdom’s border with Yemen, according to the Center for the Study of the Drone.

— Outside of the Mideast, Nigeria has used Chinese armed drones against the Islamic extremist group Boko Haram.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chinese-armed-drones-now-flying-across-mideast-battlefields.580196/
Foreign AffairsSaudi Arabia Already Has A Ballistic Missile Arsenal Courtesy Of China by cnboy90(op): 4:26pm On Oct 17, 2018
Saudi Arabia has reportedly never test-fired its missile arsenal, however, leaving the operational readiness of the RSSMF open to question. Nonetheless, it has maintained four or five underground facilities to house the weapons.

by Sebastien Roblin
You would be hard pressed to find two more determined foes of Iran other than Saudi Arabia and Israel. The latter country has long been perturbed by bellicose anti-Israeli rhetoric from Tehran, and has unleashed hundreds of a ir strikes and artillery bombardments targeting Iran’s efforts to arm Hezbollah forces in Lebanon and Syria.

Meanwhile, Riyadh appear to see itself as engaged in nothing short of an epic struggle for dominance of the Middle East, and has oriented its foreign policy around combating the perceived Iranian menace, even in places its influence is moderate at best .


Iran hawks are preoccupied by the possibility of an Iranian nuclear weapon—a weapon which, given the limitations of Tehran’s air and sea forces, would need to be delivered by a ballistic missile. Iran’s continuing development of such missiles has been proposed as a casus belli, and was cited to justify the U.S. withdrawal from a nuclear deal struck in 2014 (the deal constrained Iran from developing nuclear warheads, but not ballistic missiles to carry them in). It’s often ignored that Israel and Saudi Arabia themselves maintain some of the largest ballistic missile arsenals in the region—the latter of which is the subject of this article.


Iran’s ballistic missile program began during the ‘War of the Cities’ phase of the devastating Iran-Iraq war, when Baghdad rained hundreds of Scud missiles on Iranian metropolises. Though Iran managed to acquire a few Scuds from Libya with which to retaliate against Iraqi cities, it mostly could only strike back with air attacks—which placed its steadily diminishing fleet of U.S.-built warplanes at risk.

Saudi Arabia was also growing nervous of Iraq’s evidently huge missile arsenal. Denied access to U.S. ballistic missiles, Riyadh instead went knocking at the door of Beijing—which had previously proven willing to export arms to Iran when Moscow and Washington refused to do so.


In 1987, China transferred between thirty and 120 Dongfeng (‘East Wind’) DF-3A intermediate range ballistic missiles measuring twenty-four meters long and a dozen Transport-Erector-Launcher trucks. Once gassed full of liquid fuel, the missiles could strike targets as far as 2,700 miles away—though they required special launch pads. Saudi Arabia formed a Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Force to operate the weapons, much to Washington’s annoyance.

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Just four years later, Riyadh did end up in a war with Baghdad, and forty-six Iraqi missiles did fall upon Saudi territory . Yet Riyadh never bothered flinging missiles back at Baghdad. Why?

The problem with the DF-3 is that it has a Circular Error Probable of at best 300 meters. This means that if you fired a half-dozen at a given target, you could expect on average only three to land within the length of three football fields of the aim point; with the other three most likely falling further afield. Other sources claim the CEP may even be as large as one or two miles.

A weapon that inaccurate is pretty much useless for striking a military target—unless equipped with a nuclear warhead, which is what the DF-3 was designed to do.

But China wasn’t going to sell nukes to the Saudis. The DF-3s were instead modified to carry 3,000 pounds of high explosives. This meant the Saudi DF-3s were only ‘useful’ for dropping high explosives on a target as large as a city and randomly killing whatever unlucky civilians happened to be nearby the point of impact. However, the abundant firepower of U.S. war planes during the Gulf War meant the Saudis felt little need for such +tactics.


Over a decade later, Riyadh grew interested in acquiring a more effective strategic missile deterrence, and again turned to China—this time seeking its much more accurate DF-21 IRBM, which has a CEP of only 30-meters. (China even developed a guided DF-21D model designed to hit large ships at sea .) Furthermore, the DF-21’s use of solid-fuel rockets means it can be launched on very short notice.

Though possessing a shorter range of 1,100 miles, the 30-ton missile is perfectly adequate to hit targets throughout the Middle East and would be difficult to intercept as it plunges towards its target at ten times the speed of sound. Reportedly Saudi launch sites were photographed oriented for firing at Iran and Israel, though given the increasingly less discrete alliance between Riyadh and Tel Aviv in recent years, that latter part may be more for show.

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In 2014, Newsweek exposed that the CIA had actually helped broker the sale of Chinese missile to Riyadh—as long as it was established that the DF-21s did not have nuclear warheads. Thus, after a series of covert meetings in Washington DC-area diners between spooks and Saudi officials, in 2007 two CIA agents were dispatched to inspect the missiles in their shipping crates before they were transferred into Saudi possession.


Saudi Arabia has reportedly never test-fired its missile arsenal, however, leaving the operational readiness of the RSSMF open to question. Nonetheless, it has maintained four or five underground facilities to house the weapons.

by Sebastien Roblin
Saudi Arabia has reportedly never test-fired its missile arsenal, however, leaving the operational readiness of the RSSMF open to question. Nonetheless, it has maintained four or five underground facilities to house the weapons. Finally, in April 2014, as Riyadh grew fearful of U.S. rapprochement with Iran due to the nuclear deal, it paraded the gigantic missiles publicly .

The thing with a ‘deterrent’ weapon system is that, though they need to appear to be a credible threat, they only serve their primary purpose if they scare a foe into avoiding hostilities. However, that deterrence can’t happen if the adversary isn’t well aware of the extent of that threat due to secrecy, which may explain the Saudi decision to begin prominently trotting the rockets out in full view.


There are also persistent rumors that Riyadh has acquired a small quantity of nuclear weapons from Pakistan, or has arranged to have some transferred in the event of a conflict. Again, the mere existence of the rumors is useful for Saudi deterrence, regardless of the truth of the matter.


That Tehran takes the Saudi threat seriously is supported by a statement by an Iranian general claiming in September 2018 that Iran had earlier tested its Bavar-373 surface-to-air missile system to intercept a ballistic missile. As the primary threat to Iran from the United States comes from air strikes and cruise missiles, the test is likely aimed at Saudi or Israeli missile capabilities. The Bavar-373 appears to be an attempted domestic copy of the Russian S-300PMU-2 long-range SAM.

Ultimately, Washington clearly has fewer objections to the possession of ballistic missiles and possible nuclear capabilities in its nominal allies. Both Iran and Saudi Arabia, past victims of ballistic missile attack, appear to believe that bulking up on such weapons will deter each other from overt hostilities—perhaps even if they only have conventional warheads. However, the tens of thousands of civilians killed during the War of the Cities in the 1980s doesn’t really support that assumption.


Sébastien Roblin holds a master’s degree in conflict resolution from Georgetown University and served as a university instructor for the Peace Corps in China. He has also worked in education, editing, and refugee resettlement in France and the United States. He currently writes on security and military history for War Is Boring.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/saudi-arabia-already-has-a-ballistic-missile-arsenal-courtesy-of-china.581223/
Foreign AffairsRe: The Indians Lie Again! by cnboy90(op): 5:25pm On Aug 06, 2018
StillX10:
is this suppose to be in politics section?
But where should?
PoliticsRe: The Indians Lie Again! by cnboy90(op): 5:18pm On Aug 06, 2018
ameri9ja:
Ok
The Indians are not to be believed. They lie to the whole world.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indias-lies-can-fight-the-world-what-a-crazy-lie.570943/

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