₦airaland Forum

asanwafo:
I will tell u how it happened in two yrs time but pls withdraw the insult cos where u are from, is forbidden for a son to insult his papa

Tell that to your father

urchcoded:
well, you are talking about race. My context was far from that. When I talk about homogeneity I'm referring to culture, the USA is predominantly Christian, few Muslims and atheists. They ALL SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE. Observe same festivals like prom,. Halloween and the likes. Anyway, they really do not have to be homogeneous, they are civilized people and are not torn apart by cultural sentiments. However, the average African man is an unintelligent species (hard to swallow pill)

Seriously, u don't know anything about the USA.

Apart from the different American communities and ethnicity the USA has two official languages English and Spanish.

Naturally the US has to be civilized, a country that got it's independence over 200years ago. Apart from that the US tries it's best to attract the best of immigrants from all over the world, do u think as a Nigerian at 35 you can just go to the US with just waec? If it's not for schooling?

Look at Nigeria since the economy is battered even Niger citizens who come here are usually the ones at the bottom of the food chain who just come here to either do okada work or push wheel barrow.

That one apart America on its own is like 50countries in one so there's so much for it to offer

LoL

Sth like this happened in Liberia of recent, a boy that was trying to rape a kindergarten used razor blade to cut the girls private part so he could penetrate her

Nigerians should calm down o, respect your host.

How many police shootings in Nigeria have u protested about but u want to protest about shooting in another man's country.

Make una calm down o no go over do the thing cast am o

LoL

urchcoded:
the USA is very largely homogeneous. What are you referring to as homogeneous?

If u day the USA is homogenous that means u know nothing about the US, the US is one of the most heterogeneous countries in the world with far too many ethnicities.

In the US we have Nigerian Americans, black Americans, Chinese Americans, Indians, even indegenous Americans, mexican Americans etc.

How many times has their been clashes or this kind of African problems?

LoL

lexy2014:
Which takes us back to my first sentence made to ur earlier comment that even though u said alot, but u ended up saying nothing

D guy no just get talk for mouth, let him not try and debate with anybody outside nairaland cause he will be disgraced

kikero:
El rufai too is not incharge of the police in Kaduna either

Plus he did host peace meetings on the issue by the way.

Either way neither of them had any business near the NBA conference.

You are justifying bad governance from.wike because he is a Southerner. Just as some justify bad governance from elrufai because he is a Northerner.

As for me, tribe or religion I do not see. I judge people by the content of their character

All I want u to do is tell me wikes offense. I never at any point brought tribe or religion into it. U specifically called out wike and I want u to tell me his offense.

Wike that just because of the security situation in his state from state money he funded a vigilantee group called ospac and deployed in to the entire LG's. Same police that was useless before started saying security us their job, that if theres to be any other form of security outfit they can't bear any form of am arms...

Same wike that as a result of the too many complains of human rights abuse perpetuated by the rivers state task force lead by Bright amaewhule the last one being the task force causing an accident involving a pregnant woman.

The next day he sacked all of them with immediate effect from there boss Bright down to the last man.

Don't come here and say what u don't know o

kikero:
El rufai too is not incharge of the police in Kaduna either

Plus he did host peace meetings on the issue by the way.

Either way neither of them had any business near the NBA conference.

You are justifying bad governance from.wike because he is a Southerner. Just as some justify bad governance from elrufai because he is a Northerner.

As for me, tribe or religion I do not see. I judge people by the content of their character

U sounded intellectual earlier but not u are beginning to sound vague.

I am asking u what was wikes offense u have not told me, instead u are beating around the bush.

I am not from kaduna neither do I have any intentions of going there so it's not my business.

U mentioned wikes name in particular, now I ask u what wikes offense is and u can't tell me?

Kaduna is APC, elrufai has leverage at the top. Do u think any reasonable kaduna commissioner of police will clash with el rufai?

I can give u count where wike and rivers police commissioner has clashed, but can u give me one particular time where el rufai clashed with any kaduna commissioner?

A particular rivers police commissioner was removed cause he seemed pro wike... Can same be talked about kaduna.

Guy if we decide to have this discussion you will loose cause there's nothing to say

kikero:
That's what you think.

What I actually think is that the NBA should be more consistent.

I happen to agree with the ban on elrufai, and I am also aware that the ban had support across several states and religions.

The problem I have is the optics of the ban, and the fact that potential fallout was not handled well,. especially in these ultratribalist times.

If not for tribalism there's nothing wrong with the ban.

Almost every year we hear about killings in southern kaduna, we heard about it upper year, heard about it last year, we heard about it earlier this year it's becoming a normal thing Asif it's goats that are been killed.

The governor of the state since he has the fg in his pocket, he was invited to speak in a conference a group of lawyers majorly from the region the killings always take place push for a petition that he must not speak in the conference citing his poor handling of the killings in the southern region of kaduna, the petition gathered lots of signatories and like a democracy it was uplheld, and u want the NBA to over look it and go against the wish of the majority cause he is from the north?


How many southern states have u ever heard that a genocide was going on and the governor is acting like it's not his concern?

And u are here comparing him to wike

kikero:
Poor security, just like elrufai.

Also, he did.make.some.inflammatory comments like the man elrufai.(Involving a cutlass and the opposition).

U are deviating and I want us to go through with this discussion.

Poor security?

Is wike in charge of the police?

Are u aware of how many times rivers state commissioner of police has clashed with wike, so much that any commissioner of police in wike that's seems to be wike friendly would be removed?


The last major killings in rivers state that happened at omoku by don't wanny are u aware that police was doing their normal nonchalant attitude to anything until wike put a bounty of #200million on don wannys head before the police decided to act, in less than one week after the bounty police killed don wanny?

So if wike didn't put up that bounty police for allow am to dae kill dae go?

Wike is trying to stop security problems in rivers state by making sure there's ospac in almost every community in rivers state right from his own Pocket, the same police that even with them in security is high is fighting wike saying ospac can't bear arms, if ospac can't bear arms what are they doing then traffic work?

Let us argue reasonably tell me about wikes offense I want to know, tell me with proof. You only saw a pic of him with Cutlass but did u watch the interview of the video?

Oracleforce:
If the association of lawyers or liars who suppose to be the hope of common men and custodians of our constitutions formed a splinter group and are in disarray what is now the hope for the country?
Folks, the truth must be told....let the nation do the needful...Nigeria is not one. there are so many things that divide us than what binds us together.
Let's deliver ourselves from this protracted and prolonged lies have caused a lot of devastating effects on the growth and development of the nation...
Let the northerners embrace their Sharia law while the southerners embrace our democratic Constitution...it is high time we told ourselves the truth...nothing join us together except lie and sentiment...
I know for sure that before 2030 the fraud country and unity called Nigeria would have been shredded into pieces...

2030 Nigeria still dae 100% by that time Africans will start flooding Nigeria for citizenship

kikero:
Well, I am a Southerner and a Christian to boot and for the record I agree with the ban on el rufai.

What I don't agree with is the optics of the ban. The ban appeared to target elrufai based on his region, and the NBA handled the fallout badly, making them look like bigots.

Also, the NBA banned elrifal but invited wike, whose government isn't a model of good either, and Buhari as well, whose antecedents precede him.

If the NBA wanted to stand for good governance, then stand for good governance

As it is, the damage has been done. As for the Northern NBA, they are clearly overreacting and refusing to listen, even to those of their members who backed the ban on the first place.

Let us talk reasonably, tell me what is wikes offense?

Apart from the covid19 demolition which was smhw legal, tell me his offense.

Enlighten us we would like to know

thotsofnaij:
We are and that's the truth. North and south.

North don't even see southerners as their fellow country men. It is the south that is always doing everything possible to see the north as part of the same country. The earlier we just accept what is and do something about it the better.

Which day I go Abuja, somebody from Niger republic dae challenge me, u won't believe the side my fellow country men from the other side choose to support.

They choose a Nigerien over me coz he speaks hausa

Amah70:
So a tribe which has led Nigeria is a prize for the tribe, abi? Those tribes - Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba - that have led Nigeria - where did they lead Nigeria to, in the presence of the current ugly situation of Nigeria? Develop more sense.

If not for tribalism that's disturbing Buhari, Buhari is the best president Nigeria has ever had

AnanseK:
And what is your problem with that? Have you ever wished the North well? Please no one needs your crocodile tears .

U that's talking have u ever wished the South well?

Dey your dey o, the way u no send us na so we no use send una too

frankyychiji:
Let Biafrans worry about that unity beggar.

I don't want Nigeria to suffer refugee problem, cause after Biafra is created all if u will leave Biafra and run to Nigeria

NaMeAboki:
It must be a frustrating life being an uninformed pained wailer where everything doesn't go your own way and there is nothing you can do about it.
If you weren't so ignorant you would have known the constitution guarantees the Sharia and nothing; let alone an ordinary mortal (such as the president of a mere association) can threaten it.

How won't it support it when a Sharia person from the north put it into our constitution through the military system.

Who in his right sense will vote to put a beheading law into his own constitution.

Birchi33:
Thats why people like you will hardly lead in this country, instead of using your head to think , you are using your yansh to think.
People are looking for solution you are there spewing thrash, myopic thinking type!

Shutup has ur father ruled this country before?

bayelsaowei:
E don happen oo..infact this should happen sef..wether it will help to keep the push for secession ongoing in all our southern minds..

Them no know wetin dae sup.

frankyychiji:
Oh yes it is. Biafra is one of the new Nations he's hoping on.

U create Biafra and start suffering up and down and asking un for aide to come and help u from suffer?

The world does not want another shithole country

Guy don't make that mistake if I were u I would study law.

Anybody can practice economics or banking but not everyone can practice as a lawyer.

Even with your law cert once u get ican u can work in a bank

It seems like tiwa and wizkid are having issues, lately she's been with davido

If I was a northerner I would use this opportunity to ask for secession. The South is cheating the north too much, all Nigeria's assets are in the South just look the other day Nigerian army started a university in Imo state, Nda is in the South, Nigeria police academy in the South, etc.

They call Abuja federal capital territory representing our capital and it's funded with money from the entire Nigeria but all Abuja Minister's since it's creation is from one region the South.

We northerners won't take it.

frankyychiji:
Your last line... division will bring the crooks closer to the people so that the stoning would be very effective. Not this one they will discover gold in my backyard and someone from far away land, all in the name of Federalism would use pen to sign the wealth away.

There's nothing wrong with our unitary system.

The only problem is where country is generating the money and 70% of government projects are sites in one region

urchcoded:
I'm not botherd what name they answer, if they are culturally homogeneous they have a very high chance of societal success.

If we were to be reasonable this is 100% lies.

If it was so America won't be what it is, even China is not homogeneous.

Infact I don't think u can name one culturally homogenous highly successful country

RTSC:
In southern perspective, it is good bye, and good luck.

In Northern perspective, it is suicide.

The enchroaching Sahara desert and the lake Chad instability all the way to libya should be enough to make them contemplate their future.

But alas, it hasn't.

Stop talking like u are trying to convince them to change their minds, u should be happy for them.

As much as we love Nigeria, there's no southerner born today or tomorrow that doesn't know that the north is cheating us, if ur problem says it wants to leave, even if u love the person u won't hold him back

RTSC:
It was on twitter I saw over 99% of educated northern youths in support of beheading a man for blasphemy.

They threatened to also deal with one northern lady for trying to teach them some common sense.

If the educated class of the north are hovering with the mental capacity of an 80th century Islamic war Lord in turkey, there is nothing to be optimistic about their peculiar futures as a people.

I saw it too. The annoying thing is that they are not even giving the accused a chance to fair hearing.

The song see Mary see Jesus was resisted in the South for long before it became acceptable because alot of Southerners saw it as blasphemy but did we ask for olamides head?

The major reason why Southerners no even carry d guy matter for head is that he is from the north too, so na Dem dem

CioAngels:
Imagine, to them Southerns will always dance to their tone. No, you want to be on your own, I think is very much welcomed. This is the very first time am seeing the South call apade by it's name. They probably think the South will continue to shake like gelly, no, nowoo. Imagine young man that started this. The division of Nigeria is now thrown opened stylishly by the North, South, the ball is now in your court.

If the north wants to seceed from Nigeria the only thing Southerners will do is support them or remain quiet and hope they don't change their mind.


If they don't know let them know now, secession blackmail no dae work for this side

urchcoded:
has any heterogeneous African country been anything near successful? Break up this shithole into smaller units and watch some regions progress speedily.

I hope say u no dae put home on Biafra been one of those regions o