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jln115:
I was comparing the 2 very similar situations, the fact is less blacks were killed during nearly 40 years of apartheid than during Nazi rule, so my question is did Verwoerd like blacks? Because apparently Hitler did.

And please enlighten me to the difference between segregation and separation.

You're talking about blacks in Germany, an extremely small minority for which there's no need to let them fight alongside Germans (but they let them anyway), and in South Africa where they consist of a vast majority, and by necessity they need to be in the military. There's no comparison whatsoever.

Moety:
https://youtu.be/trBxPFLq__g

So that's why Sicilians have so much crime...

EVarn:
I am not saying the other European powers were better than him, but that doesn't make him right eitherway.

He hated Jews yes, for many reasons, according to his book, ranging from the incursion of Jewish political interest into Hapsburg Austria, to infiltration of German media and propagation of both communism and zionism by Jewish interest groups. None of these explains why he needed to initiate such a massive massacre.

I am no fan of Jews myself, but such level of antisemitism is extreme.

It isn't even about Jews, what of communists, slavs(who admittedly were responsible for a lot of issues) and physically/mentally challenged people?.

He didn't, the Holocaust was in every instance initiated by the leaders of concentration camps, and by the SS (Heydrich and Himmler). His focus was on the war, not on how to deal with the Jews, and there's no evidence that he was made aware of what was happening to them. The only orders I could find on the matter were relating to deportations to the East, rather than outright extermination. As for the communists, I think what happened to them was entirely fair. They showed their true colors in 1920 when the Bolsheviks tried to spread communism to the rest of Europe, and the Soviet Union's military buildup was inevitable. We know now just how strong they became by 1945, and it's clear they wanted to dominate all of Europe. I think if Europe had united under Hitler rather than being divided up by the Americans and Soviets, they would've been much better off. To this day, communists remain some of the worst people you can find on this Earth.

I don't think Slavs were treated fairly though, on that I would disagree with Hitler's policies entirely. He should've invited them in as Europeans, rather than cast them out and oppress them. But very few of his followers today hold the same beliefs on Slavs, they tend to view Russians as European.

As for the disabled, I think he was partly correct. We shouldn't just let them reproduce as they please, but killing them entirely is pretty harsh. But that wasn't just him, it took a panel of doctors in each case to decide if euthanasia was necessary, so there was an element of democracy to it. Personally I think I'd be fine with it if it goes through a legal process.

So, I can't say I agree entirely with his views, but I think they were useful to get rid of a lot of the problems Germany was facing at the time.

EVarn:
I call his brief hibernation in Landsberg an exile because he was a political prisoner.

As for the issue of racism, after reading Mein Kampf, I can verify that the man was racist; it was very clear from his disparaging remarks about Africans in the book and his plans to appropriate the entire African continent under the axis power of the German republic.

That's mixing up the definition of exile, but how does this support your claim that Jewish media does not lie about Hitler? So he wanted a return of the German colonies which existed just a decade before, that makes him worse than the other European leaders even when he scraps this goal? And yes, he hated Jews. If you've read it then you'll know that he didn't hate them because of their race, but because of what they did. Have you honestly thought about why that was?

jln115:
What you said above is your opinion and you are entitled to it but it doesn't counter my initial statement at all.

Nor does South Africa have anything to do with blacks in Nazi Germany, but you brought it up. If you're asking whether I think states should live under apartheid, then my answer is no. The answer is separation, not segregation.

EVarn:
Have you read Mein Kampf?, it's a book detailing Hitler's biography and political views (weltanschauung), he wrote it himself while in exile. I recently read the book, if you read it, you'd comprehend the level of hatred and disgust he had for Jews, Africans, Slavs, Communists and physically challenged people.

It isn't about what the media said, it's about who Hitler truly was. A great but terrible man.

Hitler was imprisoned, not exiled. Africans are hardly mentioned in it, but time and again he makes clear that it's miscegenation he's opposed to, and rightully so. Who hates a race more, the man who wants to see them protected in their own regions, or the man who wants them mixed and their states destroyed?

jln115:
Blacks were also respected enough to fight against SAWPO and the ANC for the SADF....So i guess apartheid was good?

Better off than they are now, oppressed and starving. Separation is better for everyone, if all the races had their own states these things wouldn't be an issue. It's the Jews who say otherwise, and that we should lead each other by force in multicultural states

jln115:
Doesn't matter what citation i post you are going to say it's propaganda......So why don't you post some evidence that blacks weren't prosecuted under NAZI rule.

They were respected enough to be allowed to fight against the Bolsheviks as were Muslim Arabs and people from all over Europe, the concept that the Germans hated every other race is a Jewish media invention.

jln115:
And Blacks......didn't like them very much to.

But hey if it sounds fair to you then it must be ok!!

Blacks didn't suffer under Hitler, only the nation-destroyers, kikes, communists and the like did. If every country had a Hitler, we'd all be living peacefully in separate nations.

GoldbergObungo:
I think Boko Haram should be considered as a Nigerian ally as they have a good point. Nigeria would be much better off under sharia law as the Prophet Muhamed PBUH intended.

For one they would get rig off all the witchcraft and devil worship that is everywhere.

It cannot be denied that Muhamed is the absolute alpha we need to model after. We all need to stop being brainwashed at school and start making something of our lives.