₦airaland Forum

Paraman:
It's a lie

I don't doubt his story. I had an uncle who was a mere commissioner under one governor in Edo state .I know how he started spending money buying properties and high value cars within 6 months. That man literally became a billionaire before the end of Their tenure. He had many investments especially in real estate. Someone that had only one old Peugeot 504 before he became commissioner. He bought one hummer jeep for his mum during that era when hummer was in vogue this politicians are heartless criminals. They don't care about you.

Who takes statisense seriously? They should reveal how they conduct their research.
Until then. All I see is beer parlour figures

Shattuck:
I apologise if my comment may appear insultive, my take on obaseki is this, I want issues about him to be judged singular in the case with the palace I think he was wrong on that, that's just it, now just because he was wrong on that does not for me serve as a justification to just about any accusation from any other individual, let me be practical a bit, when they talk about obaseki and the betrayal thing they talk about how he betrayed his deputy, but for me that wasn't betrayal at all shaibu governorship ambition was wrong and unfair to edo central, how then did he betray shaibu, I am non partisan as it relates to politics I know he has quite a long list of aggrieved person's even in his party, yes maybe he has a character flaw, I just have a problem with the narrative that sometimes folks ,most especially Apc folks use to gaslight the masses by making folks like shaibu, oshiomhole, wike to look like victims, they will tell you osinbajo betrayed Tinubu, by running for president, igbos betray Tinubu by not voting for him in the last ekection, if you live in Lagos and you do not support Tinubu or Apc then you are a betrayer, the word betrayer as it relates to Nigerian politics for me just sounds like a word used to justify slavery and gaslight individuals against having personal ambition or say against a suppose godfather, the same issue is playing out in Rivers State you see how fubara is getting lots of support, against wike,but there are certain folks who desperately try to paint wike as the victim. In context when you look at the US elections Joe Biden wanted to run for a second term, George clonney met with Obama, and Obama applied pressure on Biden to drop out of the race, due to Biden health and poor debatethis is the same Biden who was vice to Obama, Americans and democrats never said how Obama betrayed biden, because Obama's concern was fair and valid.

This your analysis is spot on. I do not believe in the definition of betrayal as in the instance you gave. That's flawed loyalty supporters show to politicians. It also has some tribal undertone. I only called him a betrayal because of his many battles with those who helped him to rise. I believe there were some agreement in place which he agreed to before he was supported. Weather these agreements were right or wrong is a matter for another day. He reneged on them once he got what he wanted. He did it to APC and again in PDP. He is courageous but in Nigeria where politics is about feeding fat on the common patrimony by party chieftains.. those who invested in his election will feel betrayed. That's why I called him a betrayal....and he does not know when to draw the line like in the case of the Oba. I also know obaseki is not a career politician that's why he did most of the things he did. We need more non career politicians like him and Sim Fubara so that Godfathers will cease to exist in Nigeria politics.

Shattuck:
you don't get my point obviously, the whole " serial betrayal" thing is just some bullshit that has been spread and folks like you just echo it without even analysing it yourselves, tell me how did he betray shaibu? By your understanding of politics was it shaibu's turn to become governor? When it was obviously Edo central's turn, how did he betray oshiomhole also, oshiomhole wanted to give him the ambode treatment if you were in his position would you not fight, even after he decamped to the pdp he still reached out to oshiomhole several times, he invited him for events even awarded him, he never maligned oshiomhole in public or fight him the way some do by destroying their houses, who else did he betray, you all misunderstand obaseki's personality, obudu oshiomhole's deputy had intentions then of succeeding oshiomhole, but oshiomhole opposed him, why is oshiomhole not called a betrayer? A man must have its own conviction, and betrayer for me, I based on principles, imagine wike saying obaseki betrayed him, if you ask the idiot how, you will see it was because obaseki did not join him his aso ebi G 5 or whatever, did obaseki betray the pdp? No. So if obaseki had joined wike in his madness, I guess you would not call him a betrayer then, but if he had done that he would have betrayed the pdp, in that case who should he be loyal to? Is it not right that he was loyal to the pdp rather than wike? Yet you all still call him betrayer? The only thing you hate is for people you have helped to even have a opinion or say in anything, for people like you you believe that once you have received any help, that individual owns you, your thoughts, your actions your opinion and everything isn't that slavery and foolishness.

I have gone through your post and have seen that you have a soft spot for obaseki. He did well generally in governance but his way of playing politics is too arrogant and self destructive. I like him too and actually wanted him to win but you are allowing your likeness for him to overshadow his short coming. You want to potray him as a saint When you know he is flawed in his relationship with people around him. When a particular issues keep happening between one person and several people..then it is time to look inward. Obaseki might have his own conviction but his antecedents will not inspire anyone to take a chance on him in future. Separate emotional attachment from your view of him and you will see how power drunk he was. For instance...in the issue of the Oba concerning the returned artefacts..what was he trying to prove? Apart from showing that he has the power to hold on to those items? The problem with the way we play our politics is that once we like someone...we feel they can never be wrong. Just answer this simple question... do you think any party will support someone like obaseki for any political position again? Be frank with yourself.


And a little advice for you....Learn to outline your opinions without littering it with insultive words. It makes no difference to your argument apart from brewing bitterness

Shattuck:
and the people he fought has anyone come out to tell you why he fought them, it's pathetic when I see grown men repeating these lines, it appears to me like you guys can't reason for yourselves, aside the disagreement with the palace, one thing you can't please everyone especially when you are in power, when he fought oshiomhole, if obaseki was wrong why didn't oshiomhole come out and tell Edo people how he was betrayed, why hasn't any of them done the same.

MR man.. you are missing the point. In politics everyone makes concession. He left APC in acrimonious circumstances...same thing happened in PDP where he divided the party. Even his deputy who put his polical career on the line for him during his travails with APC ...what did he repay him with? If one person keep having problems with everyone else..does it mean he is always right? And you think everyone will have the time to come out and say he did something t o them? The man is a serial betrayal. He is a bad politician. I have nothing against him because I think he performed well as a governor but he must learn to make little concessions as a politician or he should remain in the private sector.

Sermwell:
Obaseki served his full 8 years, I hope you know that?

Yes....using two different parties. APC and PDP. I hope you know what he did to both parties that gave him their platforms?

Obaseki was busy fighting everyone. People should learn that power is transient. Use your power wisely while looking ahead to when that same power is gone. One thing is certain...no one will support obaseki for any elective positionhe wants to vie for. He is not a trusted ally. His distrust by Edo people sort of effected his candidate.

MadamVanessa:



When an illiterate president appoints fellow illiterate of his own class to positions in his illiterate government, this is always the out come.

Non of the person working for the Iragbiji fraud is learned. Government of the touts and agberos.

I am not In support of this government but Sunday dare is not an illiterate. He obviously made a mistake or it could just be a case of him moving with the wrong crowd and then getting their inefficiency rubbing off on him. Sunday dare is too big for this mistake sha.

No

His loss just increased abit more

Am not surprised she is a bini girl

IbeOkehie:
This is a Black African government doing this to other Black Africans, most likely migrants.

Where are the coddled cry babies of US & UK? Make sure to go and protest this one. Don't be silent.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

You obviously don't have the full information.

God1000:
What do we call the action of south African government refusing to help in the rescue operation

They are not trapped..they refused to come out because of fear of been arrested. Their lives are in their hands.

I support the SA government on this. It is not like the miners are trapped. They knew they were embarking on an illegal operation. They will only stay if they prefer to die rather than be arrested. Their choice...their life.

All this scam people. I was just scrolling on palmpay when I mistakenly touched loan of 20k and was immediately approved. I decided to return the money back immediately. The interest was about 5k or 8k( am not sure) for something that was less than a minute. I was even told if I told pay back in 3 days ..it will yield more more interest of about 10k. The thing shock me.

The same lie buhari sold Nigerians for 8 years.

Not many believes in this man. Am sure it is partly because of those around him and his inability to clearly define his election manifesto. I have never seen such display of uninspired confidence at an incoming governor. I hope he disappoints all naysayers for Edo people's sake. I doubt that though.

MALLEOLUS2017:
And you think people like me care what people think about Catholics Would absence of Ave Maria comment change their thinking towards Catholics? Stop quoting me to yarn trash.

Be calming down. No be fight. Na just my opinion....No need for your aggressive response.

ojesymsym:
Now this is worrying, the national grid operates at 330KV, to put it in perspective, the three wires entering most transformers are 11KV, even that one will fry you up if you touch it so how then do people have the mind to go and vandalize 330,000V (330KV).

In electrical engineering, High Voltage is often only done by experts so for so called vandals to have the expertise to be able to successfully vandalize it leaves a lot to worry about.

Yes. You made a valid point. That's why I suspect they work in collaboration with some people in TCN. That's my candid belief.

In front page twice. But how can people be so bold to tamper with such high transmission line. I suspect someone in control room will inform them that there is no power transmission on that line before they start Vandalization. That's the only way I suspect these people can operate successfully otherwise they turn to burnt offering when that line is energised and they do this.

MALLEOLUS2017:
I'm a proud Catholic.
Ave !!!
Maria !!!

You left the trinity and mentioned a woman that was blessed amongst women..... A mortar like you to show you are a proud Catholic. This is why People believe that Catholics gives too much reference to Mary. Some even say Catholics worship Mary. It is comments like this that butresss such belief. Sacred heart of Mary people.

TheChameleon:
If you're in any other state but Edo... do CNG

Please enlighten me. What is wrong with CNG in Edo state?

So what? So if black people are not qualified to be on her cabinet.she should force them in just because they are black? This is a major reason Nigeria is where she is. Nepotism and sacrifice of excellence on the basis of who know you. UK uses merit for placement and that is a reason she is doing so well. We should learn to put round peg in round hole irrespective of personality.

ednut1:
Nawa. But lets be honest here if a Nigerian with South Africa origin was found to have used fake documents to get Nigerian citizenship. Same treatment would be meted on her.

So you actually believed their one sided submission? Does it not bother you that up until she decided to contest for miss South Africa, None of these came up? The moment they knew she had Nigerian root trying to become miss South African .. their only goal was to bring her down by all means.
Let's even assume her mother was guilty, why would an innocent baby at the time be made to suffer for something she knows nothing about even to the extent they have done and still doing?

I wonder how some people will fall for this kind of things. Maybe there is something I am not understanding

Shame no dey catch na?. Just see the rubbish excuse that a special adviser is giving. It is advisers like this that is derailingTinubu presidency. What a bulaba situation Nigeria is in!

Dreambeat:
Tactical ineptitude, the bane of nigerian age group teams. Poorly coached as usual spiced up with favouritism and nepotism as usual.

You are so right. No game plan. The USA team would have been suprised how easily they won this. The girls are limited tactically and too many individual errors in decision making. Very disappointing match not because they lost but because they did not even put up a proper fight.

Shame on nairaland. The country is playing..it is not on the front page but Barca and Man city and other leagues are always in the front page. So much for patriotism. Charity should start at home.

A country as big as Nigeria should not be relying on national grid for distribution to every state. Power stations should be decentralised such that each state can be independent of the other

BABANGBALI:
so I no fit come your house as a fellow Nigerian to come chop Nigerian food and even stay behind for weekend?

No...we meet in the cafe where naija food are sold. Except we go way back or you are family.

Thiefobi1:
Not far from the truth.

Especially some Nigerians and Ghanian in the UK very evil minded people.

Attend a church in UK as a Nigerians you will be amaze Nigerians members will wait for u after service to spy on you.

Reason is they want to know the type of car u came with to the church, so they would know maybe to mingle with u or not.

If u are residence in UK and want to stay out of trouble avoid both citizens (Nigerians and Ghanaian).

You are so right on this. I gave one Nigerian friend a personal reference in a job he applied for. The guy went and told his would be employers that I was his former supervisor in my workplace and that we have worked together for over 8 months. Someone living in another county and have never stepped leg in my workplace.
Long story short. I was queried in my workplace when his would be employer wrote to verify his claim. I had to explain my side of the story. The company investigated and somehow found me not guilty. The guy refused to pick my call and even respond to my messages. Since then I avoid association with Nigerians apart from the usual hello and hi.