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then who is going to apologize for The one that the whites actually kidnapped?

rationalhuman:
What is that sophisticated military hardware that China makes but India dont? Just name any from that list.
I hope this time you will not dodge.

who export more arms between them?


India struggle to match China elite weapons manufacturing

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/india-struggles-to-match-china-as-elite-world-weapons-exporter/articleshow/62733075.cms&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiJzdOitOrpAhUFKewKHbeuAEEQFjAKegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw22BSHjzEPtuHwMh8IztEFe

rationalhuman:
Same question again, What is that sophisticated military hardware that China makes but India dont?
And you again dodge that point, again telling stories?
Either state that Hardware or their is no point of diverting the question you raised. Stick to that.

There is only one sole superpower that is USA, both China and India are atleast 2 decades away to get that tag. But Russia, India, China are indeed global powers.

Secondly who are you and me to decide who is what? So lets asked the Professionals, Most Reputed Ranking system in the world GFP USA.
GFP has more then 60 personal staff dedicated to just one work, Collect data, Validate ,analyze and rank the countries.
Keep in Mind Annual GFP list includes every factor of a nation, Military might, R& D, Economy, Power Projection capabilities except nukes.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

how the mess is what I'm saying relate to what u are saying?

Gerrard59:
Poor, barren and arid? Dem get choice? Beggars aren't choosers na, anything people give, they collect. When I say black dominated countries should be rich, una no gree listen. This is the end result. China inundates with loans, western countries nack with another set of loans, Japan, India, Turkey etc. do same.

many Indians live in poverty and dirtiness even without toilet.

the inferiority of Africans leaders cause all this stupid shit,if we don't change very soon Afghanistan will have military base in Africa even there would be fiji-african summit.

rationalhuman:
You stated that not about china but you have doubts about india,
I stated that choose any one of the mentioned Defense items (you have doubt that India dont make), If you have doubt, choose one and i will post absolute authentic source that India also make that.

Quoting that post:
Examples (Of what Both these countries make):
india make ICBMs, China make ICBMs.
China make SLBMs, india make SLBMs
india make SSBNs (Boomers), China make SSBNs
China make ASTs (Anti Satellite Wepons), india make ASTs
india make Nukes, China make Nukes
China make Space Navigation system, india make IRNSS
india make Jets, China make jets
China makes Artillery, india makes Artillery.
india makes AESA, China makes AESA
india makes Aircraft Carrier, China makes Aircraft Carrier.

but China make more weapons than them without external Help though
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/india-struggles-to-match-china-as-elite-world-weapons-exporter/articleshow/62733075.cms&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi3gazzpujpAhWL2qQKHYqCDC4QFjANegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0tx54hu4CFPwC21sykpRLY

Russia are India ally especially in weapons export and weapons manufacturing.


China export more weapons than India

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/india-struggles-to-match-china-as-elite-world-weapons-exporter/articleshow/62733075.cms&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiFvZWdqOjpAhWlMewKHTO-AbgQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw0fugBEkhhyGtSXAyb2QHvM


I'm not saying India are not powerful but they should stop acting like world power by military because they ain't.

just because they are kicking Pakistan ass don't make them of of the world power compare to Russia,japan,US

even Iran that are most powerful in middle East are not acting like world power.

by this 2020 China are still third most powerful country by military behind US and Russia.

Gerrard59:
Same Djibouti that has military bases of the US, Japan, China, France etc. will decline Indian's request?

why can't they decline it?

rationalhuman:
Ask which one you have doubt? Mention just that one.

what doubt?

rationalhuman:
China`s industry is mostly export oriented, that is why it make let say 100 Grenades then India make 30 (Only for domestic consumption).
Lets come specific to point-wise so that we can bring statistics and Real Data in this discussion.
What are the items that only China makes and India dont make?
What are the items that only China makes and India dont make?
Answer is absolutely nothing.

Examples (Of what Both these countries make):
India make ICBMs, China make ICBMs.
China make SLBMs, India make SLBMs
India make SSBNs (Boomers), China make SSBNs
China make ASTs (Anti Satellite Wepons), India make ASTs
India make Nukes, China make Nukes
China make Space Navigation system, India make IRNSS
India make Jets, China make jets
China makes Artillery, India makes Artillery.
India makes AESA, China makes AESA
India makes Aircraft Carrier, China makes Aircraft Carrier.

Now come to opposite side of your argument:
if India dont make then its 100% true that even china dont make,
if China dont make it then India dont make it

Examples(Of what Both these countries dont make):
An Operational and Reliable Jet Engine.
High End BMD Systems (Both China and India dont make it): S-400 Triump BMD both are importing from Russia
High End Directed Energy Weapons : Both claims but still underdevelopment, not deployed unlike US

That is why there is always a stalemate, an equilibrium between these giants, Like Doklam 2017 and even now, No war just threats and back off.
Since all above is categorically specified , now you can ask for source of any above statements. I will provide proof for what i have said.
A proper way to debate or understand.

China jet engine is on the way.

most of the weapons u mentioned below are manufacturing with the help of Russian scientists and I'm not debating about China with u but India

Gerrard59:
She has a military base in Djibouti and there's nothing you, any pAn-aFrICaNiSt or African country can do about it.

then if Djibouti don't want them on their land again,there is nothing they can do too

rationalhuman:
You used word "MOST". this is the problem with us, without proper data and accuracy we just generalize.
There is no country in the world that makes 100% of its arms and weapons. (Most importantly its not feasible due to
If you cant let me State properly, China`s mainstay SU 27 (Russian), SU-30MKK (Russian), Latest SU-35(Russian), Chinese Chengdu J7 (Russian Designed and based on MIG 21 Frame), Shenyang J-11 (Completely based upon SU 27).
Virtually all Chinese in Operation Aircraft have Russian engines.

Read below source links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-7
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-11

Mention me only when you have something with Facts based upon credible statistics, And validated sources.

India import most of its weapons https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2020/03/10/india-the-second-largest-arms-importer-in-the-world-next-only-to-saudi-report.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjg9-Hx7-fpAhWF66QKHWbxCTkQFjAUegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw19k3I4X-quo5DiQXcDrQF3


China is the second weapons producer

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.dw.com/en/china-is-now-worlds-2nd-biggest-weapons-producer-sipri-report/a-52160429&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjE4brD8OfpAhUCCuwKHd5KCmAQFjAGegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1nkj2TNw43hYObjsgC0z0W

illicit:
Hausa kill Fulani, no case

boko haram are majority kanuri not Hausa

Gerrard59:
China still imports weapons from Russia, Japan does from the US even with Kawasaki, Hitachi etc., Germany, UK etc. Many strong military power still import weapons. Moreover, India is a nuclear power not just ordinary military power. Finally, like I earlier stated; if you don't like her decision, go and stop them. I know it's paining you but hey, India is richer than most African countries and has the right to do whatever she likes. The countries who would have stopped her will also be richer nations, unfortunately none of them is in Africa.

India that most of her people cannot afford three square meal.

Germany are not acting like super power.


China,japan produce most of the weapons they are using while India import most.

even the nuclear they manufactured was made by Russia.

India is the second arm importer after Saudi Arabia and u think the country that import most of its weapons will be world power by military.

be deceiving yourself there

Gerrard59:
If you don't like it, go and stop them. Or you think a top ten economy cannot become a military superpower?

military super power that import most of it weapons

rationalhuman:
What is the superpower? first define that.
India and China both are acting like global powers not like the Superpower. They are still 2,3 decades away to claim the status of superpowers.

Only US is the Sole superpower of the world.

well at least most of the weapons China are using,they are manufacturing them while India import most of her weapons

Gerrard59:
Well, she would have her reasons which I think one will be protecting her investments and exports to European countries considering the location of Djibouti. China, Japan, US, Britain etc. have bases/posts there which are aimed at protecting their investments. That said, African countries cannot question India's decision as they powerless and this is because they are poor.

all what u saying is baseless,the thing is India want to act like they are super power by military while they ain't.

Jake Palmer a beautiful woman

Gerrard59:
She's richer than most if not all African countries, and you cannot dictate to a rich person what to do and how to do anything. Any African country that does not like it should become rich and have a military base in India. It's that simple.

what is the purpose of India military base in Africa?

rationalhuman:
Its ironic that we people lecture India or poverty, Both India and China drastically reducing poverty.
India uplift 44 People out of poverty every minute, yes per minute. Can you imagine such miracle in Nigeria? ask yourself.

The real shame is that While Both India and China have almost 1.4 Billion people still they have much much less poor people then a country like Nigeria which has only 200M people. And story doesn't ends here, While poverty is reducing rapidly in Asia, its rapidly increasing in Nigeria.

US, France and India are strategic partners, Let me update you just last year US has changed its Asia Pacific Naval command to INDO-PACIFIC.
BTW India already has various Military bases like Tajikistan, Maldives etc

what is the purpose of India having military base in Djibouti?

Gerrard59:
Indian companies have invested more money into African countries than African companies into India. Moreover, India is a top ten economy meanwhile Nigeria isn't neither is any African country. India has lent money to African countries meanwhile no African country has done same same to India. But wait oh, you downgraded India because of what exactly? You think any African country can be compared shoulder-shoulder with India in terms of the economy (which is the most relevant indices these days)?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/a-look-at-how-indias-africa-strategy-is-working-113658

https://africanarguments.org/2018/08/31/can-india-keep-pace-with-china-in-africa/

India should take care of her people poverty before trying to act like world power in term of military,that is what I'm talking.

what is the essence of India having military base In Africa, they are trying to imitate US?

rationalhuman:
For entire continent it will be massive and will require for a month. can we start from Nigeria alone?

start it then

rationalhuman:
Are you really not aware?

just tell me

Gracealone:
It is called Fulani privilege. They destroy your farm >> report to police >> they lodge with the police overnight >> you check in the morning, police tell you the case has been transferred to Abuja >> Check their records, no complaint ever registered.
That's Nigeria.

yes fulani privileged do happen in Nigeria

properties4sale:
Rubbish!!! Blacks should learn how to behave. Period.

u are stupid ass nigga,what behave are u talking about!

nigeriancritic1:
Shortly before the start of world war 2, japan repeatedly humiliated China, from manchuria to shanghai, even with vast landmass, it took the new and emerging world power of America to liberate the whole pacific sphere from Japan. military might must go along with economic might to claim ownership of super power. China is a power, admittedly but it is not a superpower.
The United States might even refused to pay back China's debt and nothing will happen.

if not japan didn't know about nuclear bomb,they would have continue have continue humiliating China

motherfuckin China is talking about what they are also guilty of.

Gerrard59:
What are you saying? India has invested more money into African countries than African countries have done into India. He who pays the piper dictates the tune. She has the right to do so after all the vast majority of African countries are notoriously poor! When I say black dominated countries should be rich, una no gree listen.

what money has India invested in Africa?

rationalhuman:
Dont worry as now we are talking, Chinese are getting kicked by their Neighbor India in Himalayas.

it is non of our concerns if they kick themselves to death

I notice that most of their men are bald head before reaching 40.

rationalhuman:
China is fighting terrorism in Africa
Its upto sovereign nations to decide. Djibouti wants money thats all.

and China,those are Africa number 1 enemy.

what money is Djibouti going to see there?

rationalhuman:
why surprised?

cos India ain't shi.t,just because they are beating Pakistan in war doesn't make them something.
plus they are not fighting terrorism in Africa,so why having base in Africa

Efewestern:
Sometimes I just want to believe the heart of a black man is dark, our leaders are not only evil but wicked.

those leaders are our first problem now.

dermmy:
Bro African leaders are all sellouts. The scramble for Africa continues.

india India,im just feeling surprise,they even have India-africa summit