₦airaland Forum

Macphenson:
That headline is misleading. Listen to Peter Obi and understand that the Person that wrote the headline is mischievous.

Peter Obi was mak8ng reference to basic foods being imported, which have automatically killed farming. Manufacturing houses have been turned to warehouses of imported foods which is not a good one for the country.
In line with his consistent slogan, he said he would move the country from consumption to Production. Now we are importing basic foods we should plant that simply means we have killed farming and farmer's business in Nigeria.

Of course it will come with serious consequences.

People up there can't comprehend. They don't even have data to listen to Peter Obi.

We also manufacture most of the things obi is importing for sale at Next. How about that?

JuanDeDios:
******* It will. People are already gnashing their teeth. Some farmers have debt. The other day, someone sold his cassava farm for opueke price to herdesmen to feed their cattle.

But Nigerians don't care. They're not interested. Government no send. In a couple of years when high prices come around again, they will wail and cry endlessly about "greedy farmers" and "meedle men".

There's no way any country will experience high food prices for two consecutive years. It's basic economics.
What we're witnessing in general low price of agricultural produce is in direct response to scarcity witnessed in the previous year. We just need to ensure the surplus don't go to waste, and not create artificial scarcity to please the farmers. Most of us are also farmers in our own right.
God forbid this charlatan finds his way to our national life, never.

loveth360:
Making farmers to be poor,Is that the solution?


Reasonable government will help the farmers to make food cheaper.


Many ways to achieve that.

Making the farmers rich at the expense of the whole I believe is a better alternative to you.

See the person that wants to alleviate poverty

Beremx:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/dharmendra-bollywoods-he-man-and-original-action-star-dies-at-89-cremated-in-presence-of-family-101763971381996-amp.html

My favorite Bollywood actor that year.

Gwam:
For the record, where ever the USA establish a military base, it never leaves..🙄

😩It keeps leeching that country until there's nothing else to take home .🙄

I just don't know how people assume they're educated but don't know shit about history 🤷

So in your wisdom, the killing should continue?
And please, do you even have anything anyone can leech on?

Cmeo:
The US - Trump love for Nigerian Christians calls for concerns. If they truly believe Nigeria Christians are being persecuted, they should tell us how many Nigerian Christians they have granted asylum in the recent time in line with Christian genocide claims from the country.

So that's your plan? We should leave the country for you to occupy our land? Na you go relocate go Saudi last last by the time we're done with you.

We are divided. Nobody should gaslight anyone here

Maxymilliano:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/831812-exclusive-names-profiles-of-16-nigerian-military-officers-detained-for-alleged-coup-plot.html?fbclid=Iwb21leANwT3ZjbGNrA3BPV2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEePmj-G6mEk5Pxeg4DBUQ8cBdl5t5y0ub0GPMG205KSoqzsiE3FxgN5A3EPXI_aem_oSnTcYVFN9SvmRPPsFqTcg

You just messed up your entire existence.

ZombieDredd:
Hey kiddo.

Did you hear bout Fela kuti?
This your Cho Cho Cho no.get meaning.

The military killed his Mom by throwing her from upstairs. Nothing happened. Are you willing to spend most of your life behind bars for posting your grievances like you're free to do now?
I know most of you are too dull, but why was Baba Fela always criticizing the government if Nigeria was any better? I've lived long enough to know that successive Nigerian governments have always been worse than the former. Una go cry blood if your wish for military to take over materialized because your life will still be as miserable as ever, but you'll be fed to lions if you ever criticize them on social media like you do now. Unfortunately for you, nobody will notice you were missing.

Ndenomy:
Keep his name out of your st**nk**ng mouth.

If dem do you jungle justice and l***ynch now (even though I don’t support such) your fellow go come online to wail. Wetin bring Prophet Muhammed (S.A.W) come this thread now? Una go just dey use hand find wahala

Why will you lynch for insulting anyone? Like that's a death sentence? And you wonder why people call your kind terrorists?

Antoeni:
You Just Sounded Like a Pocket Picker or a Member of NURTW, is This How Nascent Democracy Look Like? In Right Sense of Judgement Between Military Rule And Democratic Rule , Which is Better For Nigerians?

Ask you father if he could insult a military head of state without getting lost within 24 hours, then come back and tell us.
You are here using your filthy fingers to type rubbish because we have a semblance of rules of law. With the military, nothing will change as regards the economy, and dem no still born you well to protest. You'll be summarily hanged and no one will bat an eyelid.

Nazgul:
At this point, if the military comes back they won't be any protest cos Nigerians are tired of suffering under Tinubu. APC wouldn't be able to bribe people to protest for them cos under military rule it would be seen as treason and they and their sponsors would be executed.

So believe me when I tell you that if Tinubu is kicked out tomorrow, the country would be as peaceful as ever, there might be some grumbling on social media which would obviously be banned by the military for some time...days and weeks after the coup, life would get back to normal. We Nigerians know how to adpat to situations fast.

...and you'll be used as target practice any day you complain about anything while under the military rule.
As long as the military ruler is a Nigerian, you'll start crying just as soon as they come on board. The only difference between now and then is that, you won't even have the right to post the rubbish you're posting here without getting lost forever.
I know most of you are kids, but at least, ask elders in your family.

Islie:
Fear Of Protest Stops Nigerian Military From Seizing Power From Civilians — Sowore




https://leadership.ng/fear-of-protest-stops-nigerian-military-from-seizing-power-from-civilians-sowore/

Let this be a constant reminder for any non-entity in the military planning to disrupt our nascent democracy that they will pay with their heads.

KingDashx:
this whole bible thing doesn't make sense.
Like why will you create a being and then you damn the being to damnation.
Why did your angels rebel against you?!
The bible is pretty one sided, and in the Bible God killed a lot of people, the devil never did... So who's the bad guy

Sounds like what Satan would say.
Why did someone with free will (knowledge of good and evil) decided to rebel? The very same reason why there are so much evil in the world today.

CharlotteFlair:
Why the change of handle?

Lmao

Who changed handle? Last time I checked, anyone can quote any post. Please we're waiting for you to plan your coup.

Believeintruth:
Bros we will still have Open AI partnership even with it, even those that brought Opay will still be there. You are just trying to put scenarios that even you are not sure of. In Mali that there is military regime, there is still fintech and digital payments.

Will you like to move to Mali then? I believe you're here running your mouth because you know you still have the dignity to air your opinion. You don't have that right to complain in a regime. I'm sure you were born in late 90s or early 2000s. To even think some Nigeriand think this country has hope without first overhauling the whole system is appalling.
The next person will still a typical Nigerian that takes advantage of bad situation. All of you are despicable humans only angry because you lack the opportunity the people you criticize have. You won't do better. Don't deceive yourself. I believe the planners have disintegration of the country in mind, because it would have been too hot for them to stay in power for the next 24hours.

CharlotteFlair:
108 Yoruba people on this forum liked your comment so far.

My question is, how do you intend to end Nigeria?

After going on rampage in Lagos to destroy Igbo businesses, what else will you do?

Can you lift a finger on a place like Dangote refinery?

Nwokem, jee du he! 😄

Just try it first and find out. I'm sure we would still be under military save for the Yoruba people putting fire inside military people yansh. You're too young to know.

Thunderfayamods:
You are just full of gibberish! Nobody is talking about this thrash that you put up there!
Are the president say Isreal Christians simple or no? Stop going off point with gibberish comment.

They're not Christians. So how's that relevant that Muslims always allude to that when engaging Christians that take side with Israel? Can you guys give any reason why you support a terrorist organization apart from the fact that you feel they're advancing the cause of your god?
A Muslim can support Hamas, but suddenly, Jews are not Christians whenever a Christian supports Israel. Oga, we know majority of Jews are not Christians. It's in the Bible itself.
We are just telling you to start using another formats as that won't work.

strangest:
Here are Bible verses that clearly teach that unrepentant sinners and the wicked will face eternal punishment in hellfire — also called “the lake of fire” or “eternal destruction.”


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🔥 1. Matthew 25:41 (KJV)

> “Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.”

Now explain John 3:16 and how sinners are supposed to perish and still have everlasting life but burning forever?

📖 — Jesus describes the final judgment, showing that those who reject God will share the same punishment as the devil.


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🔥 2. Revelation 21:8 (KJV)

> “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

You mentioned DEATH, but somehow you believe sinners will still burn forever? Define death and perish?

📖 — This verse lists the kinds of sins that lead to eternal separation from God.


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🔥 3. Mark 9:43–44 (KJV)

> “And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.”

The Bible used the same wording when it speaks about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorah. We all know it's the effect that's everlasting, not the torment. God will destroy sinners with fire, yes, but not keeping them alive burning forever for a short life sin. If you think that's who a loving God is, then you're not worthy to stand in his presence.

📖 — Jesus warns about the seriousness of sin and the reality of hell’s eternal torment.


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🔥 4. 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 (KJV)

> “In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power.”

Again, you keep refuting yourself but using words synonymous to sinners going into oblivion. Noticed EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION? That's because they don't have any chances at existence again. Read your Bible.


📖 — Paul describes eternal punishment for those who reject the gospel.


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🔥 5. Matthew 13:41–42 (KJV)

> “The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”



📖 — Jesus explains what will happen to the wicked at the end of the age.


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🔥 6. Revelation 20:14–15 (KJV)

> “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”



📖 — The final judgment where sinners are condemned to eternal fire.


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🔥 7. Matthew 7:13–14 (KJV)

> “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”



📖 — Jesus contrasts the path to eternal life with the path to destruction.


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🔥 8. Jude 1:7 (KJV)

> “Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”[/quote]It's good you mentioned Sodom and Gomorah. We know it's the effect of the destruction of the cities that's permanent, not the torment. That's why the Bible is comparing last days destruction to that of Sodom and Gomorah.

📖 — Jude uses Sodom and Gomorrah as examples of God’s judgment by fire.


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🔥 9. Matthew 10:28 (KJV)

> “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”



📖 — Jesus emphasizes that hell is real and affects both body and soul.


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🔥 10. Romans 2:8–9 (KJV)

> “But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil.”



📖 — God’s righteous judgment will bring wrath on those who persist in sin.

Key word is destruction of body and soul. When we die, we do so bodily, but the second death by destruction with fire kills any hope of further existence of that soul. We all know dying now is not the end. The end is when you don't believe Christ as Lord and Savior because He's the Way, the Truth and the Life and no one can see the Father except through him. Those are the people God will DESTROY and they'll be no more. Destruction has never meant to be consciously burning for eternity. That's eternal life in itself, and it's not taught anywhere in the Bible.

KingDashx:
Only physical beings feel pain
Spirits or ghost or whatever you call it when a person dies does not feel pain.

Hell is fake..

It's not fake, just that people give their own meaning of what hell is.
You can read from Genesis to revelation but you'll never a single verse where people burned for eternity for short life of sin. Even one of the most popular verses in the Bible, John 3:16 says "... whoever believes in Him shall not PERISH, but have EVERLASTING LIFE.
What the pro-hell believers can not tell us is how sinners can perish (the word means death;to go into oblivion;to cease to exist) and still live forever in hell fire.
Will God destroy sinners with fire? Yes. Will they burn forever in the fire? No. But how do we explain some verses that says the smoke of their torments ascend forever? The Bible used the same wording when it talks about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorah. We all know it's the effect of the destruction that's permanent, not the torment itself.

Mirasteel:
What is shameless about them? the last time I checked it's Palestinians that owns that land, what is Israel afraid of? why can't they allow Palestinians to own their own state too?

Convince us Jesus is an Arab. You have 20 years to do that.

Thunderfayamods:
It seems you are confused! You just jumped to comment. You are saying exactly what he is said.

I think you're the confused one. The person you quoted was only telling the islamist and terrorist sympathizer to say something we don't know yet. Telling a Christian that Jews hate Jesus and Christians in an attempt to get them to support a terrorist organization is about the dumbest thing to do.

surgical:
He is equipping them to control them and also they could help him win elections, he robbed the people to pay the elites, as he is improvishing the people through his policies, he is channelling the gains to the political elites and all these for selfish reasons, he assumed its only the elites that matters, the formula he used in Lagos, he has exported it to the federal, let's see how effective this will be,he succeeded in Lagos, let's see if he will succeed in Nigeria

According to your logic, the president can should just sack all the governors and appoint administrator since he's now accountable for their actions. Did you read what you posted at all?

nairavsdollars:
https://www.thecable.ng/will-tinubu-accept-wikes-challenge/

Wike knows the contents of the report, reason why he's ready to resign. Amaechi should just wish Tinubu won't wake up on the wrong side of the bed on morning and decide to release the said report.

eepeepook:
…and I’m still yet to see a child or animal starved for a significant length of time reject a fruit/piece of food, claiming it is GMO and not natural.

That's not the question I asked.
You talked about an alternative and I asked alternatives to what and why do we need a defective alternative to something natural?