₦airaland Forum

ozoebuka1:
Stop generalizing for all urhobo people. You can say "i do not support biafra and I wouldn't want referendum to be conducted in urhobo land"...if u say that, No one would pick offence, but When you say "urhobo people doesn't support biafra and no referendum should be conducted in urhobo land (just because you an urhobo man)"... this statement is not only annoying, but also fallacious.

Your igbo hatred springing up and I'd advice you conceal it.

God bless you

I wonder why he is scared of a referendum since he believes his people do not support Biafra

kingzizzy:
Confederation, while a good thing, is never going to happen in Nigeria.

Confederation failed at Aburi, it failed at the 1998 constitutional conference and it failed at the 2014 conference. The truth is that the North will never allow confederation, which is just an extreme form of Regionalism. The North holds more than enough voting power to stop any move towards confederation or true federation at the national assembly.

There is no group in the SW/SE/SS that does not want true federalism and resource control.

All the ethnic groups in the so called 'SS' from Urohbo, Ibibio, Itsekiri, Ogoni are all clamouring for control of their resources. But the truth is that it will never happen in Nigeria which is why they turn to militancy. After a while of doing militancy, the militant leaders are bought off with billions/amnesty and the militancy dies away until the money run low and it starts again.

So in essence, anyone who has not started thinking about leaving Nigeria is someone who is not serious about resource control or true federalism.

When is comes to the issue of Biafra, just like Nigeria, the colonial masters once drew a map of what they want Nigeria to be. They then embarked on a military conquest of of the indigenous people and forced all of them together into their Nigerian colonial dream.


The difference with Biafra is that while the agitators have also drawn their own map of Biafra, which includes Delta state, nobody is about to go on any conquest or force anyone into any false union. Biafra at this time remains a proposal which the indigenous people must first validate. Biafra is Biafra and Nigeria is Nigeria. We need a referendum to separate the two.

The reason why this referendum should be even more important to all the minorities of Southern Nigeria is that they have never had the opportunity to officially say what or who they are, Nigerian or something else. The colonial masters did that for us all. So a referendum is not just about Biafra, it is also a golden opportunity for all those who love Nigeria to express their love with their vote.

How can someone say they dont want Biafra but when offered a refendum to make this official, they say they dont want that?

Its a bit like saying you dont want to listen to music but when given the Radio, you say dont want to turn it off.

A referendum should be conducted so that the Nigerians and Biafrans can be separated and everyone goes their way.

Perfect

I wonder why the Op is scared of a referendum

That is why I suspect fratermathy is an Afonja

fratermathy:
POINT NUMBER 3!

You seem not to understand that this entire thread is an experiment in which many of you are seriously failing.

In the referendum, reject Biafra.

fratermathy:
No one asked you to take sides. You said you offered us the opportunity to join Biafra OUT OF LOVE!!! Where has that LOVE been? That is my question.

We voted Jonathan as proof of our love for Niger Delta people

realjoker:
Keep fooling yourself and keep deceiving your co-travelers. Let me ask you one more time, Na by force to join beerfraud Referendum?

Afonja he pain you sey we no invite una..

Abeg face Togo and Benin republics

fratermathy:
And like I've always maintained, we won't partake in any referendum because we didn't request for one. Our status is not in question. We are not divided over where to be.

Of course, you would say you invited us with love. Where was that love when we were embattled with the Itsekiris over ownership of Warri? Where is that love now that Ijaws in Warri South West and Burutu are massacring Urhobos everyday over land?

The love only comes when Biafra is involved?

So you want us to take side and kill Ijaws and Itsekiris for you guys

Guy, Biafrans are not murderers.

ManMountain:
One Simple reason.

ACCESS TO SEA.....Biafrans are mortally scared of the idea of being a landlocked country.

Switzerland is a landlocked country far richer than your hopeless Nigeria

True or Lie

kropotkin2:
Every single thing you typed is a teutonic dream, a delusion. IPOB have succeeded in Brainwashing you into believing that a Biafra can be achieved .

If Nigeria can be free from British colonialism, Biafra can also be free from Nigeria oppression

fratermathy:
How did you conduct yours to warrant the addition of minorities to your proposed nation?

You guys should really grow up and discuss like adults.

Point number 3!

That is why you have a choice to reject Biafra in the UN supervised Referendum.

Urhobos were invited out of love

DocHMD:
Immediately I read 'less than 1% of SS want Biafra" I stopped because I knew the rest of the jargon will have no value.

When you make conclusive statements like that my Professor will ask you to show us verifiable evidence obtained from the 'survey' you did to arrive at that conclusion.
If you can't then you are pulling figures from your anus and intelligent scholars like us see it as academic fraud and we have no business with fraudulent fakes.

islayer2

He thinks we will die if Urhobos reject Biafra

Biafrans invited Urhobos out of love and they are free to accept or reject

I just pity them if they reject Biafra because their case will be worse than Southern Cameroon

Every tribe Biafrans love will be given the privilege to reject Biafra at the UN Referendum polls so that in turn, they will be rejected at the borders of Biafra.

Biafrans will be instructed to avoid Nigeria and her citizens in any part of the world

Biafrans and Nigerians will be good neighbors who don't visit each other or step foot into each other territory except to travel to other nations.

realjoker:
Na by force to conduct Referendum in their region? That is why I keep saying all this beerfraud agitation is just an avenue to corner away Niger Delta resources by you greedy lots from other Nigerians and you deluded and frustrated beerfraud supporters keep on vidicating me day in day out.

Afonja mind your business

Despite Oil and Gas existing in Igbo regions of SE and SS, we have survived outside of it due to our investment in human resources

Citizens of Nigeria will not be accepted in Biafra and also, we won't visit your country.


Afonja get ready to see Lagos being empty of Biafrans as we consider it a no go area.

Amberon:
Did you not read the part where i said there will be referendum on our soil because we didnt ask for one?

We are even the ones who will ensure necessary measure against the influx of refugees from the east.

https://www.nairaland.com/fratermathy

There are 2 reasons you guys are scared of referendum by tribe

1) You know your people will accept Biafra in mass

2) You don't want to lose the goodies of Biafra since you guys know that at the border, you guys will be rejected


Whether you guys accept referendum or not, Biafra will be a no go area for you guys since you guys believe it won't be good for your people

As for our people, all will be instructed to avoid citizens of former Nigeria and Nigeria.

Those who do not believe in Biafra, will never be accepted in Biafra no matter how much they plea.

We will be good neighbors that do not visit each other.


We will visit other West African countries but not former Nigeria.


All those tribes who will reject UN referendum, will never be accepted into Biafra.

So Urhobos are free to reject the referendum

Thanks.

fratermathy:
You don't seem to get this referendum thing. We never asked for it and we are not interested in it. You can FORCE us to vote for what we never wanted in the first place.


If the entire Nigeria is undertaking the referendum on whether or not to remain in Nigeria, it is a different case entirely but if your referendum is about Biafra and those voting in your referendum are select ethnic groups then Urhobo-Isokos WILL NOT participate! Afterall, our refusal to participate implies disinterestedness.

You guys can't eat your cake and have it

Be bold like the Southern Cameroonians and face the choice of your decision

We won't like to hear you guys giving us excuses to enter Biafra tomorrow when Nigeria becomes a complete disaster.

That is why that referendum will stand so that we can merciless when rejecting you guys at the border.


Be bold like Southern Cameroonians.

Amberon:
Asylum? Hahahah

Don't patronize yourself. A referendum will only be done if the said tribes as for it. So far we have not requested fr a referendum , therefore there will be no such thing as a referendum on our soil.

Other tribes can join, but certainly not us.

https://www.nairaland.com/fratermathy

If you guys aren't scared of the future, then reject Biafra at UN referendum polls so that we can be comfortable rejecting you guys at the border when it final becomes clear to you guys that Nigeria has no bright future

Amberon:
I perfectly understand your point. Nigeria is already a failed state and anyone denying that is living in delusion. I also understand that everyone has a right to self determination which is why we the urhobos through the umbrella of the urhobo body (U.P.U) have made our choice.

Understand that we have no issues with the actualization of Biafra, but the way most ipobs go about their struggle is absurd. Insulting and demeaning ND tribes that don't subscribe to the biafran dream.

Personally, I do not want to be in the same country with the Hausa/Fulanis as nothing good has ever emanated from that region. But I also do not want to be part of Biafra because of the many future uncertainties may arise.

You ,fratermathy and the Urhobos do you guys now understand the need for the referendum

In the referendum, you guys have a choice to reject Biafra for Nigeria so that we won't feel bad rejecting you guys at the border when you seek succor , comfort and refuge in Biafra.

Amberon:
Anyone and any nation can have a bright future with good governance and appropriate measures to ensure growth and development.

25 years ago, UAE didn't seem like they had a bright future. 50 years ago, China didn't seem like it had a bright future too.

fratermathy

Since Urhobos believe in Nigeria having a bright future, then reject Biafra through a referendum so that tomorrow if Nigeria remains a failed state, we Biafrans will reject you guys whenever you people seek for refuge in Biafra and vice versa


The purpose of the referendum is to have a clear justification not to grant any of you asylum in Biafra when it becomes clear to you guys that Nigeria can never prosper as a nation.

fratermathy:
These questions won't make us or any Urhobo for that matter, pledge to the Biafran project.

Nigeria is something we would be proud of for better or worse.

If we must leave Nigeria, we will map out plans for an Urhobo nation. Every ethnic group has a right to its own autonomous nation. I respect the Igbo's right to that. So, too, respect mine to that.

Amberon

If your comment is the true wishes of your people, so be it

But your people will vote in a referendum so that tomorrow, we won't accept excuses of not being given an opportunity to reject Nigeria.

The referendum will be done based on tribe so that every tribe will determine their direction.

We will like not to accept people from those tribes that will reject Biafra in a referendum.

For that reason it is good a referendum is conducted so that we can know those who do not believe in Biafra and ensure that they never find succor in Biafra.

When Biafra stands, we will discourage Biafrans from living in Nigeria and vice versa for at least 50years

Hope you now understand the need for a referendum

fratermathy:
You see.. . We never asked for a referendum. You can't force one on us. We are not in confused about who we are. We don't have any identity crisis.

Referendums are done on requests and we haven't requested for any. You may have your referendum in the former Eastern region or Igboid groups, certainly not with us. We were never Biafrans nor do we intend to be. If a referendum is to involve us, then it must of necessity involve the Edos from whence we came, Yorubas with which we have more affinity, Hausas who have been friends to us, etc. In that case, it would be a nationwide referendum and we would be glad to vote for Nigeria over and over again.

If we are even to leave Nigeria, we will map out plans for our own nation. We can't leave a Lugardian project for another whatsoever! Until such plans materialise, we remain Nigerians in truth, body and spirit!

You are dodging the real questions

Does Nigeria have a bright future.?

In 50years time, will Nigeria be a place you are proud of.?

Tell your people to take their time and look well so that they can know what line of action to take.


If by this time, Urhobos have not asked themselves the future of Nigeria, then it is a pity.


Igbos want a country like US Japan Germany they can be proud of

Nigeria will never be that country because the North will always oppose restructuring.


Think while you and amberon hold tightly to one Nigeria


Nigeria is not getting any better


Look around you and project the future

fratermathy
Amberon

Does Nigeria have a bright future.?

Does Biafra have a bright future.?


Pls give me an answer

fratermathy:
Urhobos have also not advocated for Niger Delta Republic. Personally, I don't believe in it as well.

As for your questions:
1. Nigeria!
2. Nigeria!

This is not something we would think twice. The current Biafran agitation is not really known in Urhoboland. The few of us that have heard of it only did so online or in papers and what we make of it at the moment is that it is an Igbo affair. Since Urhobos have no affinity with Igbos and are indifferent to the Igbo cause, we don't show any sympathy to the Biafran agitation.

We would say... Ihwo r'Igbo vwi Biafra. That is, Biafra is an Igbo affair.

fratermathy:
Urhobos have also not advocated for Niger Delta Republic. Personally, I don't believe in it as well.

As for your questions:
1. Nigeria!
2. Nigeria!

This is not something we would think twice. The current Biafran agitation is not really known in Urhoboland. The few of us that have heard of it only did so online or in papers and what we made of it at the moment is that it is an Igbo affair. Since Urhobos have no affinity with Igbos and are indifferent to the Igbo cause, we don't show any sympathy to the Biafran agitation.

We would say... Ihwo r'Igbo vwi Biafra. That is, Biafra is an Igbo affair.

Then you and your people should reject Biafra when the referendum comes

Let me give you one advice to your people


Don't make the mistake of Southern Cameroon

Some decisions are irreversible and destructive

Before you guys reject Biafra, ask yourselves if Nigeria will ever be that country you guys wish of.


Look into the future of Nigeria and Biafra before making a decision

khalifjgusau:
Common man, I think u never in your life visit Zamfara, because the state is millinnea behind the Abia, a gap that will never close. Even Borno and Yobe where BH or war have been totally destroying since last 7 years are better than Zamfara according to the 2015 report about the poverty of Nigerian states publish by the United Nation...

My point is that, most state governors are thieves and irresponsible people.

Ugomba:
your true nature is coming out. I am suspecting you to be Mgbejiume an ika benin slave like that.
Only jobless people do that kind of argument in a facebook group, if ikas are tired of being in Anioma, they can leave the coinage.
Anioma is a political coinage, before that, we registered and are köwn as Western Igbos and later Delta or Bendel Igbos.
On slave jibe, Ask urself why Ancient Benin did not dare their expansionism toward Igbo hinterlands, which kingdom conquered Igboland in history for u to talk of slaves? But many Ikas were descendants of Benin slaves who escaped and ran into Agbor and Owa areas, they began to assimilate with the Igbo aboriginals just like the Olukumis who were slaves escapees.
Can you tell me why there is Agbor in Delta, Abia and Imo, why are the dialect of the Agbors is similar to owerri dialect?
Mr joker! Ika tribe my foot. Don't bring ur crap to our ogwashi ukwu land.

Ehikwe22 ancestors were Bini slaves accommodated by Ika Igbos.


If Ikas are Bini, why did we resist Bini eastward expansion

Why didn't we welcome the Oba with open arms at Agbor

Why did we kill his soldiers and sent his army fleeing

Goroz:
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Nnamdi Kanu is still cooling his heels in Kuje prison.

Afonjas and their obsession about Biafra


What concerns Nnamdi Kanu and this thread

fratermathy

Pls answer these two questions

1) If you are told to choose between Biafra and Nigeria, which will you choose.?

2) If your ethnic group is told to choose between Biafra and Nigeria, which will they choose.?


Pls take note: Let's assume UN did not put NigerDelta Republic on the ballot paper.

Hope he has paid salaries and pensions

All these governors flexing muscles and still struggling to pay salaries

His own is better.

What of Abia state governor.?

ehikwe22:
No, Facebook is not my source of anything but being that our point of contact is online and the only way we can have a group of people airing their opinions synchronously or asynchronously is through groups or forums that's why I suggested that. No doubt we have some pro Igbo Enuani people and but majority of Enuanis are pro Anioma. This is my point. Pro Anioma in the sense that they're advocating Anioma as an Ethnic nationality because we're so heterogeneous and we've never really had anything to do with Igbo even from pre colonial and colonial era. If you are so much in love with Igbo, I think you'll have to pack up your things and run to the East because Anioma ethnicity has come to stay.

Majority of Ika Kingdoms were founded by Edo Royalties and warriors. Igbos are the slave here and anybody identifying with the Igbos is definitely a slave

Ugomba, don't let this small boy cause you to despise our Igbo people (Ika)

Imagine him saying that Igbos in Ika were former slaves

The question he failed to ask himself is, those Igbos were slaves of who .?


I laugh at him because he doesn't know that Bini slaves ran to Ika Igbos for freedom.

So shameful that Bini slaves we saved want to replace our Igbo root with Bini root

Those attempting suicide under Buhari,can explain better

Ugomba:
total gibberish. So ur source of confirmity is a facebook group? Are you dumb or what?
So the likes of Pat utomi, Achuzie, Elumelu, Pa Okonjo our obi, even Asagba of Asaba etc who are pro-Igbo are not a confirmity to you.
Listen up, Even in the midst of binis, Ikas are like slaves and intruders to them. Many ikas are descendants of Runaway Benin Slaves who escaped. I have the documents to back this up.
Forget this thrash of concorted history u bini slaves parade around.
Keep it in ur Ikaland. An Ogwashi ukwu man is a freeborn, we are not battling with inferiority complex like you guys.
Speak for urself and ur irrelevant ikas. Thanks

Don't allow one idiot cause you to hate your fellow igbos(Ikas)

Some of those idiots aren't from Ika.

Just remind them that just because Ika Igbos accommodated them in Ika doesn't mean Ika land is Bini land.

123sophocles:
I won't waste my precious mb on you.

Okezie boy, tell your master (Okezie) to pay salaries and pension of Abians.