₦airaland Forum

coolitempa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa0st_aMjmA

This is another video on youtube which clearly states that Benin were new comers in the art of bronze casting and learnt it from Ife who taught them... . Old man, you are just an egoistic man who cannot accept that he has been thoroughly educated by a female probably younger than you.

Listen from four minutes, old fool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa0st_aMjmA

This is another video on youtube which clearly states that Benin were new comers in the art of bronze casting and learnt it from Ife who taught them... . Old man, you are just an egoistic man who cannot accept that he has been thoroughly educated by a female probably younger than you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNmCg3nNi1U

Listen to this again. The Ife bronze heads were from the 11th century which predates the benin heads by at least three hundred years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s6XCL-_icg

Stoplying:
What "historical accounts" ? Show me the eyewitness written documents in which Ife is visible but Benin is not, because in all those Precolonial maps on page 4, Benin is visible, but Ife is not.

You sound mentally unhinged. So some oyinbo map is that through which you determine your existence. You are clearly educated but equally clearly unintelligent. What a fool.

Why does your kings title translate to child king of edo people? A title that exist till date.

Stoplying:
Here you go again, you even manage to contradict yourself, so you are not claiming us everywhere, but you are because you believe you are our father ?

Your delusions are powerful, Benin kingdom appears on documents from the 1400's, Yoruba only appears in 1808, and it wasn't even the name of a people but just the name of a land.
How a delusional teenager would claim to be the father of a 30 year old is beyond me.

What a stupid comment.

By all historical accounts, ife predates benin so please. And this is shown in the fact that its language is not spoken outside of that small dusty town.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_German_Inner_Africa_Research_Expedition

More reading for you.

Here is another link

https://www.thoughtco.com/ile-ife-nigeria-169686

Stoplying:
You are going in circles, show me a lab report which "dates" Ife heads (even though it is impossible to do), or stop blabbing.
Also, before you and your fellow 419 start making fake reports, I want a link to the report on the labs website, the name of the scientists who did the study and the year.
No such thing exists.

You keep asking and I keep proving. Are you sure you are not mentally ill or something. I have done my best in educating your hateful lying self but still you ask for more humiliation and you are supposed to be a professor. Olodo rabata.

https://www.google.com/search?q=german+archaeologist+in+ife+osun+state&source=hp&ei=UbaUZJy8O5Kp8gKahYbwDQ&iflsig=AOEireoAAAAAZJTEYuuIhndZYCWa2CJxnXQG97k6YpBa&oq=GERMAN+ARCHELOGIST+IN+iFE+&gs_lcp=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&sclient=gws-wiz

Stoplying:
Look, it is very simple, stop obsessing about my people and stop claiming my heritage. Other than that, I don't care about you and your people. If you like, go and claim pharoe tut migrated from Ife, I don't care, I even hope he did, but leave my people alone !

I dont see many yorubas shouting edo anywhere. Like any father who sees a wayward child misbehaving, it is his duty to call that child to order. Simps.

Stoplying:
https://www.ciram-lab.com/our-services/art-market/bronze-silver-gold.html

1) your first claim of metals being dated by carbon dating has been debunked
2) now you shifted the goal post to "radiocarbon"
3) the only techniques actually available to the specialists in the field are not real dating.
4) no laboratory has actually even attempted to "date" Ife heads.

Your ignorance is now bordering on stupidity. For it to work on bronzes such as those excavated in Ife, they must have earthly matter in them. That is what radiocarbon does. Do i have to break everything down for your sorry arse. Or were you just born this way.

Stoplying:
Carbon14 dating doesn't work on bronzes or whatever matter Ife heads were made with.
How many times do I need to show you that you are a fool before you notice that you are a fool ?

You keep embarrassing yourself. AMS radiocarbon a technique suitable for the dating of ancient bronze artefacts through the analysis of the organic residues contained into the casting cores. Your hatred will kill you there. Hateful animals like you think and mistake our lassez faire attitude allows for weakness. We consider edos our cousins whichever side of history one takes whether ours or your recently made up ones but you keep hating and buying into the hate from the sad east. When the ijaws start claiming those lands of theirs that you stole, dont come here and start crying.

What a legend. A great man indeed. My husband totally loves him as I do.

Stoplying:
1) "thought to" 🤣
2) you are only kidding yourself with this unsubstantiated claim of someone else.
3) Ife was a small settlement until 1912 when the British started urbanising it.
4) the ignorant person who made the unsubstantiated claim which you are quoting didn't even do any research before they tried to attach Ife heads to Benin bronzes in order to give Ife head some undeserved importance and to help them get funds

this half baked illiterate keeps using laughing emojis to disguise his pains. the dunce does not even know that the ages of the bronzes were determined by the science of carbon dating...

The Benin bronze sculpture tradition is thought to have derived from or been influenced by that of the older nearby Kingdom of Ife in southwest Nigeria.

Direct quote from google on which came first. Again I ask why is the title of the benin king Omo n'ba N'edo? Why? Why would a king be titled the child king in edo, a title he uses till date.

I hope this fool will stop disturbing our peace after reading and educating himself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Head_from_Ife

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Bronzes

Read and learn.

https://www.google.com/search?q=which+bronzes+came+first.+Ife+or+benin&source=hp&ei=KKWUZIbKOZTrgAaz16-oBQ&iflsig=AOEireoAAAAAZJSzODTvgxwKb2wGyzgw6jc2QxoTiaOB&ved=0ahUKEwiG_o-p0tf_AhWUNcAKHbPrC1UQ4dUDCAs&uact=5&oq=which+bronzes+came+first.+Ife+or+benin&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQghEKABMgUIIRCgAToNCAAQigUQsQMQgwEQQzoLCC4QgAQQsQMQgwE6BwgAEIoFEEM6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARDRAzoHCC4QigUQQzoLCAAQigUQsQMQgwE6CAgAEIoFEJECOg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARCvAToRCC4QgwEQxwEQsQMQ0QMQgAQ6BAgAEAM6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBEK8BOgUIABCABDoICAAQigUQsQM6CAgAEIAEELEDOgUILhCABDoICAAQigUQhgM6BggAEBYQHjoICAAQFhAeEA86CggAEBYQHhAPEAo6CAghEBYQHhAdOgcIIRCgARAKOgQIIRAVUABYpIgBYICMAWgEcAB4AIABmQGIAfsZkgEEMzguNJgBAKABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz

This is my last warning to you. Never again open your runny mouth to compare a small kingdom to the ife dynasty which owned you. we will not accept these lies any more.

coolitempa:
where was he held. Ovonramwen?

even the bronze heads that made benin famous were first in ife? you want me to prove that too?

Stoplying:
This is deplorable, in the previous page, you can clearly see Precolonial maps of Benin kingdom. Yet you are here telling me Auchi is "not Benin".
Like many other uneducated outsiders you still do not realise that Benin city is not the same thing as Benin kingdom.
You see Benin city is to Benin kingdom what Abuja is to Nigeria.

where was he held. Ovonramwen?

How long did it take the british to capture your king? eight days with a small force. great kingdom my black ass.

Stoplying:
As I already stated, I do not care of any "Yoruba meaning" any more than I care for any Igbo or haussa or igala or berom meaning. You guys are only special in your own heads. We don't care about you. Now leave us alone !

answer the question you dunce. why is the title of your king child king in edo. why?

Stoplying:
I said he were "Edo", you claimed he were "not from Auchi". So you actually know Murtala Muhammed is from Auchi, but like the average Yoruba, you just needed to lie 🤣
Look, you are wasting my time with your mental illness. We Edo are not Yoruba, we do not adhere to your fairytales. Now move in with your miserable life

listen to this angry man... ..... auchi itself is not even benin. hope you know that.

People here have shown you where the benin kings head is buried in ife. You deny. They have shown you the meaning of his title. you deny. they have shown you documents from when the british first came. you deny. the have shown pictures of how they were seated in order of supremacy. you deny. you have mental problems. you cannot rewrite history. See benin wey no reach vsmall town claiming to be a lion because omoluabis are being nice as always.

Stoplying:
The full title of the emperor is Omo n'Oba n'Edo uku Akpolokpolo.
I don't care of any "meaning" in Yoruba any more than I care of any meaning in Igbo or igala or haussa.
Will your harassment stop now ?

Ask any yoruba lady to translate what I highlighted means. It means the kings child in edo. Why does your king have that title? Keep lying. fake professor.

Stoplying:
Nigerian military has all ethnicities within it.
The Midwest was liberated by the Nigerian army in the civil war between Nigeria and Biafra. Notice, I said the Nigerian army, not the "Yoruba army". And the officers of the Nigerian army who led the liberation were Samuel Ogbemudia and Murtala Muhammed, both were Edo.
So what the hell are you talking about?

Your moniker is a contradiction. Murtala is not from auchi. Ogbemudia joined later on after ejoor ran to lagos. I am waiting for ijaws to come and take over like they have been saying.

Why is the title of the benin king omonoba? do you know the meaning of that in yoruba? does omonoba have a meaning in edo language? Omonoba means child of the king. you can deny all the facts here to your hearts desire but it does not change the truth.

Stoplying:
Oh, so the Nigerian army and Yoruba are the same thing ? How deluded

The nigerian army is made up of nigerians and yoruba are part of it. when next ibos cross the river niger and occupy you like they did in the biafran war, we will not come to liberate liars. you will simply be allowed to merge with them with your omonoba as captive. continue to shoot your mouth.

Stoplying:
1)The Benin royalty doesn't speak Yoruba.
2) No head of the Oba of Benin was ever buried in Ife.
3)The fact is you Yoruba have a lot of fantasies about Benin.


Also stop confusing your wet dreams and fairytales with history. You are asking for Igbo history while parading with your fairytales.
Let me tell you your true history: most Yoruba descend from afro brazilian slaves, the rest descend from local slaves, a few are of true noble descent but agreed to carry the yoruba tag for political reasons.

When next the Biafrans occupy you in war, dont come and call for us? We will just hand you over. Butterfly wey dey claim vulture.

Stoplying:
1)The Benin royalty doesn't speak Yoruba.
2) No head of the Oba of Benin was ever buried in Ife.
3)The fact is you Yoruba have a lot of fantasies about Benin.


Also stop confusing your wet dreams and fairytales with history. You are asking for Igbo history while parading with your fairytales.
Let me tell you your true history: most Yoruba descend from afro brazilian slaves, the rest descend from local slaves, a few are of true noble descent but agreed to carry the yoruba tag for political reasons.

You must have recently escaped from yaba left..... what is written on this historic building?