coolitempa:
I hope this fool will stop disturbing our peace after reading and educating himself.

coolitempa:
The Benin bronze sculpture tradition is thought to have derived from or been influenced by that of the older nearby Kingdom of Ife in southwest Nigeria.

Direct quote from google on which came first. Again I ask why is the title of the benin king Omo n'ba N'edo? Why? Why would a king be titled the child king in edo, a title he uses till date.

Christistruth03:


Show us the Reports

Or you are lying

Stoplying:

1) "thought to" 🤣
2) you are only kidding yourself with this unsubstantiated claim of someone else.
3) Ife was a small settlement until 1912 when the British started urbanising it.
4) the ignorant person who made the unsubstantiated claim which you are quoting didn't even do any research before they tried to attach Ife heads to Benin bronzes in order to give Ife head some undeserved importance and to help them get funds

Stoplying:
Also, I'm reading reports that the conference of chiefs of the western provinces was held at Benin city in 1937, not Oyo. That would make sense since the one of 1943 was held at oyo province.

When talking about history with Yoruba, the yoruba will come with fake documents and fairytales.

Christistruth03:



Show us the Reports

coolitempa:


this half baked illiterate keeps using laughing emojis to disguise his pains. the dunce does not even know that the ages of the bronzes were determined by the science of carbon dating...

Stoplying:

Carbon14 dating doesn't work on bronzes or whatever matter Ife heads were made with.
How many times do I need to show you that you are a fool before you notice that you are a fool ?

coolitempa:


You keep embarrassing yourself. AMS radiocarbon a technique suitable for the dating of ancient bronze artefacts through the analysis of the organic residues contained into the casting cores.

Stoplying:

https://www.ciram-lab.com/our-services/art-market/bronze-silver-gold.html

1) your first claim of metals being dated by carbon dating has been debunked
2) now you shifted the goal post to "radiocarbon"
3) the only techniques actually available to the specialists in the field are not real dating.
4) no laboratory has actually even attempted to "date" Ife heads.

Stoplying:
Look, it is very simple, stop obsessing about my people and stop claiming my heritage. Other than that, I don't care about you and your people. If you like, go and claim pharoe tut migrated from Ife, I don't care, I even hope he did, but leave my people alone !

coolitempa:


Your ignorance is now bordering on stupidity. For it to work on bronzes such as those excavated in Ife, they must have earthly matter in them. That is what radiocarbon does. Do i have to break everything down for your sorry arse. Or were you just born this way.

KINGOSIRO99:
WHO ARE THE EDO PEOPLE'S?

SOME WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE LOST THEIR REAL ORIGIN.
BUT JUST DO YOUR THOROUGH RESEARCH YOU WILL COME TO KNOW THE TRUTH OF THIS HISTORY YOU ARE ABOUT TO READ.

Who are the Edo people?

EDO, is what you can describe as the "generic name given to a group of people who have a common ancestor and have a common language, with some different variants, depending on the distance between the group and the " tap root, " resident in and around the present day Benin City. In short, the land, the political state, the people, tribe, language and the principal city -Benin City is called EDO. At a point in the history of these people, another name called BENIN came into use. These Edo-speaking people are divided into the following clans today:

a) " BINI " derived from the word Benin for people living in and around Benin City, in Edo State. People living in and around Benin City, are gradually accepting the word BINI, as descriptive of their clan. Otherwise, they prefer to be simply called EDO.

b) ESAN/Ishan-for the immediate neighbor to the north are people living in around Irrua, Orhodua, Uromi, Ubiaja, Ewu, Ewatto, Igueben and the almighty Evbohimwin (Ewohimi))" the city by the big river " or " the city of Ikhimwin trees " etc.

c) The Afemais known as IVBIOSAKON by those living in and around Benin City to the north of Ishan/Esan clan.

d) Akoko-Edos based in Igarra, Ibillo and its environs to the north of Afemais.

e) The Owans-ORAS occupying Eme, Sabogida-Ora, Afuze, etc. Uhobe (SOBE) and Ifon in Ondo State.

f) Ekas-to East of Benin. A sizeable chunk of the Edo speaking people flow across River Niger and ending at ONITSHA.

g) Isoko, Urhobo, Itsekiris and about 70% percent of western Izon (Ijaws) in Ndegeni and its environs

h) A sizeable chunk of the Edos is found in River States and Balyesa States e.g. Ogba land and Diobu, Port Harcourt.

i) A sizeable chunk has been " Yorubanised in Ondo, Ekiti, Lagos and Ogun States. The descendants of Edo soldiers stationed in Akure are referred to today as ADO-AKURE (Edo ne ’kue) There are many Edos in Ekiti land, Idoani, Idanre etc going through life in Nigeria with Yoruba names. Acculturation has taken place. You are either a Yoruba man or you go nowhere.

j) The ILAJE community at OKITIPUPA and its environs.

k) The Edos who conquered and settled far way land like Dahomey, Togo and Ghana.

The Edo language is part of the Kwa-Niger group of languages according to Linguist. These people have lived were they are now for " Thousands of years." The monarchy centered in Benin City is about 6000 years old, including pre-ogiso and Ogiso era of history. All the clans had various functions, which they perform at the palace. For example, the Ishans/Esans were principally the medicine men and warriors of the ancient empire. They were the medical practitioners. The chieftancy groups responsible for the Oba's well being are dominated by Ishan/Esan descendants. The Ivbiosakon (Afemais) were the dental surgeon of the palace. That is the origin of the name IVBIOSAKON. Oba Esigie assigned that function to them in the c1500's.

The Owan/Ora people were the propitiators of the physical earth for the Oba of Benin. It was their responsibility to prevent things like earthquake, hurricanes, tornadoes, volcanoes and anything associated with geological disturbance to occur in Benin. In short, they were the geologists and weathermen of their day, forecasting and preventing physical calamities. Those we call BINIS today, were the traditional bureaucratic administrators and military generals. The Izons (Ijaws) were the " OZIGUE" -SAILORS The Ekas were farmers. They were in charge of the royal farms.

The Ibos across the Niger call the Edos, IDU, the name of the progenitor of Edo race, the Yorubas call us ADO, which is a corruption of the word EDO. However, the Itsekiris, another sub group in the Edo clans call us UBINI. Tradition asserts that it is derived from ILE-IBINU, which is descriptive of the exasperation and frustration encountered in Benin City, by Prince Oranmiyan of ILE-IFE. A further research may prove that, it was the Itsekiris who gave that name, to the people living in and around Benin City. The Itsekiris told the white man of the powerful overlord living in Igodomigodo. It was the Itsekiris who told the Whiteman that the name of the tribe of this powerful king was UBINI- a term which Whiteman corruptly wrote down as Benin. For example, the name of the eldest daughter of Oba Osewende, the mother of the OSULAS and the AIWERIOGHENES is today known as AGHAYUBINI. A closer examination of that name would reveal that the name is an Itsekhiri phrase-" The Ubini Lady or woman " i.e. the woman from Benin. Aghayubini was a very wealthy trader among the Itsekiris, from whence she got the money she used, is getting the throne for her brother, who became Oba ADOLO. An Itsekhiri descriptive phrase has simply over powered her original Edo name, to the extent that nobody knows anything about it now.

The ancient Edo/Benin Empire covered the whole of Bendel, parts of Bayelsa State and I repeat Balyesa State. The second son of the Enogie of Brass, popularly known as IYASE NE OHENMWEN became the Iyase of Benin under Oba Osewende. Iyase Ohenmwen is the ancestor of the OTOKITIS, THE OKEAYA-INNEH AND THE AIWERIOGHENES of Benin today. It also covers the IGBO-speaking areas of Delta State stretching to Onitsha. People hardly know that the actual title of the Obi of Onitsha is AIGBOGHIDI. The historical Chief Agho Obaseki of Oba Ovoranmwen era and later the Iyase of Benin under Oba Eweka II, was a descendant of the second son of Enogie of NSUKWA now in Delta State. It extended to the whole of Ondo State, parts of Ekiti and Ogun State and the whole of Lagos State including BADAGRY. It stretched to southern Dahomey (Republic of Benin) and on to the coast of Togo and Ghana.

THE OWANS /ORAS:

Oba Ozolua is traditionally regarded as the ancestor of the Owans/Ora. He was known as Prince Okpame before he became known as Oba Ozolua. He had sought refuge in Uwokha in Ivbiosakon areas in c1473. From Uwokha, Oba Ozolua founded Ora and other villages. Oba Ozolua was a warlord. He beat the people of Uzea near Uromi to a pulp when there was a revolt. He extended his carnage to Uromi when the Enogie was reported to have been rude to his messengers. He went up through Akoko land, wandering into Nupe lands where he acquired a lot of sophisticated weaponry then. He attacked the Igallas and Igbirras in the present Kogi and Kwarra states. After spending the greater part of his life in ORA, he left behind his son UGUAN and returned to Benin City.

But before he left, he proclaimed everybody free men and free women, entitled to enjoy the privileges of Edo princes and Princesses, for all the services they had rendered in his military campaigns. That is why the Oras call themselves today, the CHILDREN OF OZOLUA. Besides being in charge of propitiating the physical earth, they are responsible for ritually exorcising any harm that might come upon the EDO NATION-the land due to violation of sexual or other taboos. Their GUILD, quartered at EVBORHAN quarter in OGBELAKA in Benin City by Oba Esigie, demands steep fines from the culprits for their services.

A few years ago, the Oba of Benin created an Ogie-Duke-traditional rulership for the Oras because of popular demand.

Ademola Iyi Eweka. Look
The green color is the true map of Edo territories make this campaign know to the unknown
Edo is not a minority in their Land. EDO is an umbrella that cover all.

Stoplying:

You are going in circles, show me a lab report which "dates" Ife heads (even though it is impossible to do), or stop blabbing.
Also, before you and your fellow 419 start making fake reports, I want a link to the report on the labs website, the name of the scientists who did the study and the year.
No such thing exists.

coolitempa:


I dont see many yorubas shouting edo anywhere. Like any father who sees a wayward child misbehaving, it is his duty to call that child to order. Simps.

coolitempa:


You keep asking and I keep proving. Are you sure you are not mentally ill or something. I have done my best in educating your hateful lying self but still you ask for more humiliation and you are supposed to be a professor. Olodo rabata.

https://www.google.com/search?q=german+archaeologist+in+ife+osun+state&source=hp&ei=UbaUZJy8O5Kp8gKahYbwDQ&iflsig=AOEireoAAAAAZJTEYuuIhndZYCWa2CJxnXQG97k6YpBa&oq=GERMAN+ARCHELOGIST+IN+iFE+&gs_lcp=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&sclient=gws-wiz

coolitempa:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_German_Inner_Africa_Research_Expedition

More reading for you.

Stoplying:

You are going in circles, show me a lab report which "dates" Ife heads (even though it is impossible to do), or stop blabbing.
Also, before you and your fellow 419 start making fake reports, I want a link to the report on the labs website, the name of the scientists who did the study and the year.
No such thing exists.

Stoplying:


Here you go again, you even manage to contradict yourself, so you are not claiming us everywhere, but you are because you believe you are our father ?

Your delusions are powerful, Benin kingdom appears on documents from the 1400's, Yoruba only appears in 1808, and it wasn't even the name of a people but just the name of a land.
How a delusional teenager would claim to be the father of a 30 year old is beyond me.

coolitempa:
Here is another link

https://www.thoughtco.com/ile-ife-nigeria-169686

Stoplying:

You are going in circles, show me a lab report which "dates" Ife heads (even though it is impossible to do), or stop blabbing.
Also, before you and your fellow 419 start making fake reports, I want a link to the report on the labs website, the name of the scientists who did the study and the year.
No such thing exists.

coolitempa:
By all historical accounts, ife predates benin so please.

Stoplying:

What "historical accounts" ? Show me the eyewitness written documents in which Ife is visible but Benin is not, because in all those Precolonial maps on page 4, Benin is visible, but Ife is not.