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chris365: and please give me an answer to my question

What question?

chris365: and you think the world relied on you when you announced you were going to DRC? your boys were scared to even engage rebels while brave DRC stood and fought.

"SA National Defence Force head of communications Siphiwe Dlamini told the paper fighting was taking place in areas where South African soldiers were deployed adding they were not involved".
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31221:sa-soldiers-not-involved-in-latest-drc-fighting--sandf&catid=55:SANDF&Itemid=108

and south africans quickly came hear to claim their weak army was involved. if you leave the fighting to DRC army, what the hell are you there for if not for offensive.

i know why... your army were scared as usual.

Really? Is that why the below transpired? If you don't know what mandate we operate under, don't speak. It's Naai-geria that can't be a reliable component of UN missions.

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New York - The United Nations said on Monday it is ready to use "lethal force" to stop a rebel advance on the Democratic Republic of Congo city of Goma after major new clashes erupted.

The DRC government said at least 130 people, including 10 soldiers, were killed in new fighting with M23 rebels on the outskirts of Goma in the east of the country on Sunday.

The UN has deployed a 3 000 strong intervention brigade in eastern DRC in recent weeks. The joint South African, Tanzanian, Malawian brigade has an unprecedently strong UN Security Council mandate to take on armed groups.

The DRC "mission has put its troops on high alert and stands ready to take any necessary measures including the using of lethal force to protect civilians," UN spokesperson Martin Nesirky said.

"Any attempt by the M23 to advance toward Goma will be considered a direct threat to civilians," he added.

M23, which UN experts say has received backing from Rwanda and Uganda, briefly took Goma in November last year, sparking the UN decision to beef up its forces in a region where millions have died in conflict over the past two decades.

The latest heavy fighting broke out at Mutaho, about eight kilometres northwest of Goma, the UN mission in DRC, Monusco, said.

The M23, which has forces around Goma, has reinforced its positions with "heavy artillery" and a "battle tank," Monusco said in a statement.

Igbo girl wearing imported attire. - According to Chris.

chris365: pay attention to details my boy. notice the background? these guys are traditional drummers and dancers. the guys in the background are wearing the main attire.

And the guys in the foreground are wearing what? Imported attire?

chris365: yeah right. playing second to incompetent DRC army.

Still, we are in the DRC and are part of a UN mission that we freely volunteered for. You've failed to be a productive member of your own mission, which you freely volunteered for. You're going back home. No one can rely on you.

chris365: it is south africans that are pretenders. compare these two leaders on official duties and tell me which is closer to his roots. hypocrites

These are your roots below. Show me a picture of GEJ wearing that.

You've already posted and made fun of pictures of Zuma wearing his "roots".

Show us that of GEJ wearing his.

chris365: my friend will you shut up about the zulus already. this is the age of modern combat where your military is very incompetent at. zulu warriors in 2013? what is wrong with snot africans na.

The "incompetent" South African military is in the DRC today. The "competent" Naai-gerian military has failed in Mali today.

chris365: why does he wear those over sized suits? snot africans

If you know that in the main, he wears suits, the why are you making a scene about his ceremonial dress?

Moving on with the times doesn't mean you should deny your origins, Naai-gerian.

Your origins are grass attire. Not fabric attire. Think about that next time you want to laugh at Zuma's ceremonial skin clothes.

Mike..ZA:
If the Zulu ever met this little boys in combat. We wouldn't be dealing with some ignorant people today.

Naai-gerians should be ashamed of themselves. They sit here making fun of an African history they very much are a part of.

They pretend they sprang up as a nation of cotton and fabric. Such a shameful people.

chris365: kindly give us the year please and stop posting pictures of Sango and Amadioha.

cannibal president in 2013? i now see why the people are f*cked up.

Pictures of the Igbo of Naai-geria.


You're buttressing my point. South Africans are proud and this should be encouraged. So, well done to zuma for going back to his roots. I admire it when he does it for his traditional ceremonies.

You Naai-gerians want to deny your roots. You used to wear grass. That's your history. Your fabric clothes aren't where you originally come from. You come from grass, not cotton.

Don't be ashamed. Embrace it like Zuma. Be a real African.

chris365: This boy is a liar and should not be taken seriously.
can you give us proof of any Nigerian tradition that still dresses like this. from that picture you would know that first of all it's way too old, secondly East africans dress that way not west.

TF

You're still ashamed of your original dress. I said clearly - this is your original dress. You can't read.

Because of your shame, you what to have is believe that you've always used fabric.

That zuma dresses like he does as part of his traditional ceremonies is wonderful. It shows that South Africans aren't as ashamed of their roots as Naai-gerians are if theirs.

Even now, you're throwing your toys out the cart because you want to distance yourself from your origins.

Funny thing is you actually write grass and not even skin.

The original (and partially diluted) form of dress that Naai-gerians are ashamed of.

I love South Africans for the pride they take in their dress.

Hezron Lorraine: Even the world's most powerful president Obama shows emotions.

Oh, I see. GEJ aspires to be like Obama and isn't his own man.

chris365: the guy S.TUPID DIE

English WAEC failed candidate, non?

NaijaPikinGidi: You just did!

A response is not necessarily an answer. Learn to recognise the difference.

There's been a response, but no answer.

chris365: the question is whether they have a military before they can talk of fighting. you saw what happened in CAR na

Your question is a joke. It doesn't deserve an answer.

There's a shameful tendency among Naai-gerians to pretend they know nothing about wearing animal skins.

One thing I like about South Africans is the pride with which they embrace their roots.

This is your original form of dress, Naai-gerians. And this is not even 100% original.

chris365: better an affectionate man than a thief, liar and cannibal as president. f.ool
[img]http://www.google.com.ng/imgres?imgurl=http://2.bp..com/_dwS7qfzBHmQ/Sh7ThgyXMuI/AAAAAAAAGSU/Rl9eb4NTITA/s400/zuma-lie.jpg&imgrefurl=http://internetdebris..com/2011/09/sunday-specaial-and-i-couldnt-agree.html&h=400&w=326&sz=29&tbnid=eSfsojkGo2MO4M:&tbnh=91&tbnw=74&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dweird%2Bphotos%2Bof%2Bjacob%2Bzuma%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=weird+photos+of+jacob+zuma&usg=__hlA8QPbKUzlUu6bwnArw9Yu9O8Y=&docid=9moRexFuvUNKPM&sa=X&ei=-ZfpUfSWEIX6PNWIgdAL&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAQ[/img]
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Comrade, you links do not show.

And you do know that Naai-geria practices cannibalism, right?

sambos994: Nov. 6 (Premium Times) The utter disrepair of the Nigerian army may compromise plans to oust Islamists in northern Mali, the UK Guardian newspaper is reporting.
A senior source in Mali told the Guardian that the Nigerian army is in such “a shocking state” that it can only be relied upon for “manning checkpoints and loading trucks.”
“The Nigerian forces lack training and kit, so they simply don’t have the capability to carry out even basic military manoeuvres. They have poor discipline and support. They are more likely to play a behind-the-scenes role in logistics and providing security,” the source said.
The Nigerian military is being relied upon by ECOWAS to lead the onslaught to oust Islamist fighters affiliated to Al-Qaeda who are in control of northern Mali.
But an assessment by military experts from the US and EU shows that Nigerian forces lack the basic know-how and discipline to lead the operation.
Now the experts are relying on Malian troops fresh from being trained by the EU to take the leading role in the operation.
A spokesperson of the Nigerian military admitted that it is under-resourced but claimed that the military had been successful in previous international assignments.
“The situation is that Nigeria has the trained personnel, what we require however is additional funding and logistic support. Nigeria has a lot of past experience in successful military and diplomatic interventions on the continent,” the spokesperson, whose name was not mentioned, was quoted as saying.
The Nigerian military used to be the pride of the continent. It played a leading role in restoring peace in war-torn Liberia and Sierra Leone in the 1990s but years of meddling into politics and corruption has left in a sorry state.
It currently has it hands full battling an Islamic insurgency in the north of the country where it has been chastised for its lack of intelligence capability and the use of brute force leading to human rights abuses.



Bolded: Like CraigB said....not official.

Backed up by official statements and subsequent behaviour. :Subsequent behaviour being failure in Mali.


Security Challenges: The Army Is Overstretched, Says GOC

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Saturday, 04 August 2012
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THE General Officer Commanding 1st Mechanised Division of the Nigerian Army, Kaduna, Major General Garba O. Wahab, has admitted that the army is being overstretched by the prevailing security situation in the country, following its involvement in the internal security operations to counter the current wave of terrorism in the country.

agaugust: ...and south african army is very very fit, enough to fight algerian army ? ah ! those algerian army videos made south africans to pooh pooh and pee pee on this forum


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM1vnA_yxA0

how fit is south african HIV army ? now compare


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDJzYESlwWE

Your videos have become irrelevant. No South African even needs to respond to your speculative videos today

Msauza: Nigerian Military was unfit for Mali, no wonder they have used France as a cover:

http://premiumtimesng.com/news/106020-nigerian-army-lacks-basic-training-and-discipline.html

They were always unfit. In fact the UN spent many a sleepless night worrying about the useless West Africans.

chris365: so because you belong to a bloc you don't need to arm yourself for any eventuality

We are armed sufficiently for the most likely eventuality. Naa-geria's most likely eventualities aren't like South Africa's.

SADC isn't West Africa

SMH.

agaugust: america will never fight under a portuguese general. nigeria wont take same kind of insult. mali is not our fatherland

Rub*sh argument. This is a UN mission. Not a Naai-gerian mission. You volunteered to be part of the mission.

However, a source said that President
Jonathan ordered Nigeria’s withdrawal
in protest against “ill treatment of own
troops and non recognition of the roles
it has been playing in the search for
global peace. Nigeria was shabbily treated despite its role in efforts to
stabilise the situation in Mali. The
President has no choice but to order
that the troops be withdrawn. The
modalities for the withdrawal are now
being worked out now. Look, left to the military, Nigerian troops would have
been home by now. But our diplomats
are sorting out the procedural issues
involved. Otherwise, we are out.”

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1. The red = not official.

2. The other reasons (you said all 3) are supported by which statements.


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The only official reason has been that you need the personnel for the anti-BH effort.

Please then, give us the links supporting your argument.

sambos994: Well our mission WAS done actually....so you could say all three.

Is that why at least one battalion remains?

May we have an official statement confirming what you just said, please.

agaugust: [size=16pt]From bully boys to wimps: the decline of SA's military
http://mg.co.za/article/2012-05-04-lack-of-funds-leaves-sa-vulnerable[/size]

Er. As much of a wimp as the crying Jonathan?

agaugust: mmmmhhhhh !!! south africa...

like bob marleys' song titled Time Will Tell says....."Think you're in Heaven but you're living in Hell"

Says a guy from the North of Naai-geria SMH

sambos994: We pulled out because we don't want to fight under a Rwandan general. .

The reasons I've been listening to all day:

1. We pulled out in protest
2. We pulled out because our mission was complete
3. We pulled out because we were victorious.

On and on it goes...

Is the above your reason or is it the official reason?

http://www.africaeagle.com/2012/08/nigeria-president-jonathan-promises-to.html


Nigeria - President Jonathan Threatens To Invade Mali If Talks Fail
Posted by AfricaEagle on 24 Aug 2012 | 3 comments



Military intervention in northern Mali is inevitable if talks with militant Islamists controlling the area fail, Nigeria's leader has warned.
President Goodluck Jonathan said a West African force would be deployed, but only with UN approval.
It has so far refused to endorse military intervention, saying it needed more details about the plan.
Alleged atrocities committed in the rebel-held north are being investigated by international prosecutors.

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Naai-gerian threats. Empty threats lol

chris365: [b]It is a good thing that Botswana, Namibia and Zimbabwe do not seem to have any territorial ambitions, because if they chose to annex a few South African provinces,.

They are all our friends.

SADC does not have divisive forces, which is why it remains SADC the great. SADC the lovely. SADC the wonderful.

sambos994: And how did we fail exactly?

The UN mission continues. You are pulling at least two battalions out. Is pulling out before the end of your mandate success?

drag_on: Nigeria was ready in mali on the 17th.

Who cares when Naai-geria was ready to deploy by? Naai-geria volunteered now to be part of the UN mission, which France handed over to, amid doubts of the readiness of the West Africans.

And as true's Bob, the "Giant" of West Africa disappointed all who relied on her.