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drag_on: http://www.aim.org/newswire/france-to-pull-out-of-mali/
Extract:
PARIS — The French military has started to withdraw its troops after a recent anti-Islamist campaign concluded, says French army spokesman this past Tuesday.
France plans on withdrawing their 3,000 soldiers this year and will maintain a 1,000 member combat force to support the eventual U.N. peacekeeping mission from neighboring African countries.

Wake up from your slumber. Since when is finishing a mission and handing operations over tantamount to "abandonment"?

You're the ones that said you wanted to offer African solutions! You're the ones that failed at that!

France did its part and got out clean with a respectable change of guard.

You're are getting out in batches amid turmoil at home and the customary Naai-gerian moaning.

Pull the other one, dude. It's got bells in it.

drag_on: But france is abandoning the mission,the have not succeeded,The people of mali know not to rely on them too,but you said it is not a failed mission for france? I think it is rocket science for you.

Er, Abandoned the mission? Where? Show is where France abandoned its mission...

chris365: we are done fighting under UN.

No, you're not!

You're aren't withdrawing all your battalions. Just enough to support your failing anti-BH effort.
Your excuses make no sense. You but off more that you could chew and you are now going home.

drag_on: Explain in great detail how and why you consider the fact that Nigeria (who together with france and other afisma members defeated the rebels) is regarded as a failure while france is not.

This is not rocket science. You abandoned your mission. You haven't succeeded. The people of Mali know not to rely on you. An abandoned mission is a failed mission. Simply look at the report preceding this post. You failed; and your claims to "success" are nothing but you clutching at straws.

drag_on: so did france mission fail as well? considering that Nigeria was part of AFISMA that went to MALI when france intervened .
AFISMA(of which Nigeria was a member)is a peace enforcement unit which was wound down after its victory over the rebels,it has been transformed to the U.N. PKO MINUSMA of which Nigeria is not taking part.
Again the question is did france fail? Do not digress.

Simple answer: no.

The Naai-gerian mission did.

And then?

The topic of the week continues:

http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201307191062.html/

Mali: Nigeria Pulls Out Peacekeepers
19 July 2013 , Source: Premium Times
(Photo: Premium Times)
After months of denial, Nigeria has officially announced the withdrawal of much of her 1200-strong contingent from peacekeeping operations in Mali, and Sudan to help a severely-depleted force back home confront the deadly insurgent group, Boko Haram.

ECOWAS Chairman, President Alassane Ouattara of Cote d'Ivoire, said on Thursday he had received a notification from President Goodluck Jonathan about the decision to send the troops home "because of the domestic situation in the country".

"I received a letter from President Goodluck Jonathan that because of domestic situation in Nigeria part of the troops will be withdrawn," Mr. Ouattara said on Thursday at the end of a two-day 43rd Ordinary Session of the ECOWAS Authority of Heads of State and Government in Abuja. "Nigeria needs some of its people but not all are being withdrawn."

The announcement confirmed previous reports by PREMIUM TIMES on the planned withdrawal, and reflected how Nigerian officials lied about the strength of the troops apparently overstretched by months of campaign against Boko Haram militants, mainly in Borno, Adamawa and Yobe states.

PREMIUM TIMES' reports were forcefully faulted by government and military officials who claimed that despite the sweeping military operations that drew up thousands of personnel from several other states, the nation remained with a sufficient military capacity to enforce internal security.

The officials have denied well-investigated reports by PREMIUM TIMES about the deplorable welfare of the troops in Mali, many who were not properly fed and compensated.


The denial about the declining troop strength was however confirmed by the Senate in its report of investigation into the killings in Baga, Borno state nearly a month ago.

The Senate said its investigation established that the Nigerian military was "severely stretched by the fighting with Boko Haram", and called for immediate recruitment of soldiers.

It was not immediately clear how many troops would be withdrawn from Mali. But Reuters news agency quoted a foreign diplomat in Nigeria as saying infantry units will be going home while engineers and signals operators would be amongst those left behind.

The news agency also quoted the United Nations peacekeeping department as confirming that Nigeria would also withdraw some of its troops from the U.N.-African Union force UNAMID in Sudan's conflict-torn Western Darfur region as well.

"We can confirm that Nigeria has officially notified (U.N. peacekeeping) of its intention to withdraw some of its troops – up to two battalions – from UNAMID," said U.N. peacekeeping spokesman Kieran Dwyer. The United Nations was in discussions with other countries to replace the Nigerians, she said.

The withdrawal from Mali comes as the country prepares for elections for a legitimate government. Mr Ouattara said the polls will hold on the set dates and assured of the region's support for the process.

"Mali is ready for elections; you do not have perfect elections because there are problems. `Mali needs a legitimate government and they should have this election on July 28 for the first round and Aug. 11 for the second," Mr. Ouattara said.

"By the end of August, we would have a democratically elected government, "he said.

The ECOWAS Authority of Heads of State and Government also came up with decisions to tackle the recurrence of crises in the sub-region.

The Authority of Heads of State and Government instructed the ECOWAS commission to expedite action on the review of peace and security in the region to prevent recurring crises situations.

The Authority noted that a review of the regional peace and security framework would also focus on preventive measures and "rapid military response capability".

It commended the effort of the Malian government and people for the efforts to ensure a peaceful transition and appealed to all political parties and candidates to "demonstrate self-restraint, accept the outcome of the polls and resort to legal means if disputes arise".

The desperation of Parrot4 hahaha.

How'd you feel chappy?

patriot4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcWsTwvtyOI

Ah - we love this ad in South Africa. It's won awards. I doubt Naai-gerian ads are capable of winning anything?

drag_on: The pictures below are from mali.

You failed in Mali!

What's the point of posting pictures from there? Your mission failed.

NaijaPikinGidi: See who is talking about correction! We could all go back pages to show your ...

Looking for attention? That's why you're latching onto conversations that don't concern you?

I'm not the one who pretended to have an MBA. Agaugust is. So, have fun wasting your time. See if anyone cares.

patriot4: to b.itch craig: the army is too busy banging your mama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KejIHMyYhI

Let's see - you're posting these irrelevant vids because your failure in Mali was highlighted?

You're only helping me and spamming yourself to death. No South African worries about your videos, old chap.

patriot4: boko haram terrorist seized by civilians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UodqZTVt6U0

The beginnings of citizen against citizen war games. Where is the army? SMH.

Mike..ZA:
I won't lose hope in training your tiny brain with info. Did you know your country will be pulling troops from Mali and Sudan to help fight the might BH?,Looks like the military operation is failing.

Tried to conquer Africa, they did. Now there are hurrying back with their tails between their legs. Totally incapacitated by BH. They don't even know how to think anymore...

patriot4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1xkKfjzpw

Running out of material? You posted this yesterday, old chap.

patriot4: beegeagle says:
July 18, 2013 at 10:58 am

@Oga Eyimola. Here is one short, sharp take by a Westerner on ground in SLR during the war. It validates ECOMOG and heaps scorn on the UN intervention.

http://petermaass.com/articles/deadly_competition/

excerpts

“In recent years a Nigerian-led intervention force prevented the RUF from taking control of the country, but last year, with the Nigerians wearying of the expense and bloodshed, the U.N. brokered a peace accord under which the RUF was given a share of power and an amnesty for crimes it committed during its reign of terror.

The Nigerian force was replaced by thousands of U.N. soldiers, who turned out to be the Keystone Cops of peacekeeping. Most of the U.N. soldiers arrived in Sierra Leone with little weaponry, unreliable communications gear, and scant awareness of the nastiness that awaited them. When they tried to take control of the RUF’s diamond-mining areas, the RUF attacked, seizing hundreds of U.N. hostages.

With the battle-hardened Nigerians gone, the RUF sensed an opportunity to commandeer the entire country. It was May, and the war was on again.”

end of quote

And an African news magazine has this to say.

QUOTE

” It turned out that the arms themselves
never actually got to the pro-Kabbah
forces: they were impounded by Nigerian troops, who must be credited – along with the pro-government Kamajor militia fighters – for unseating the AFRC and restoring democracy to Sierra Leone.”

http://newafricanmagazine.com/features/politics/our-man-in-sierra-leone

end of quote

The UN only want to hear from the Human Rights Council, Amnesty International etc waxing lyrical about a humanitarian crisis and they begin to put every wrong foot forward. They want to deploy soldiers but would want to see them operate like boy scouts just so that ‘activists’ have nothing to say.

That is the reason behind the endless stream of gaffes..peacekeeping where you need peace enforcement.

I have just wasted two minutes of my life. Two minutes I will never get back. I just read irrelevant rub*sh.

Is this meant to explain the Mali failure? Well, it doesn't.

Giants that aren't listened to and that have no regional influence are going home.

Officially they have admitted that they bit off more than they could chew. But online hangers-on, from bloggers to Naai-ralanders keep coming up with excuses.

Will the hangers-on show us where Naai-geria was begged to stay and asked to please not leave? Important people get begged to stay. They aren't resolved.

Will the hangers-on show us where Naai-geria raised issues well in advance, which issues where not addressed to Naai-geria's satisfaction?

Even if the hangers-on can show these things, the Mali mission is a success how? Why is it not a failure?

agaugust: the fact that you keep shouting about my MBA degree is a proof that you feel very inferior because you don't have any university degree as a white man, on a forum where a black man has a masters.

I live and work among your type of half educated whites in America and I know the agony you all go through every minute you discuss with a black man that graduated from university with superior brain 10 times better than your empty head that holds no professional qualifications despite all the great opportunities you whites have to grab two university degrees with money available to white people all over the world.

my MBA degree seems to give you constant epilepsy.... and I am happy to know that

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You lie. Yellow green showed us who you are. Apart for the fact that you're too old to be playing forum games. You're a father of children.

You'll never be published and there's nothing that you've said here that's deserving of a publisher's time. We've read real articles from analysts. You aren't one. You wish you were one and you thought we'd respect you of you said you had an MBA. Fail.

Your fake MBA doesn't worry me. It amuses me. It's my daily satire, because you're so typically Naai-gerian. Bok* Haram comes from your neck of the woods. Don't you have relatives to worry about back home?

Oh - whatever happened to ignoring CraigB? Am I now speaking too many inconvenient truths, so that you simply have to respond and set the record straight?

patriot4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KejIHMyYhI

Another weak video. We have all seen that. It does nothing to us. We knew why it was compiled. Wasting your time with your irrelevant posts.

agaugust: Spoke too soon and uninvited...i meant first class and corrected it ASAP. I speak better English language than you do

Well, in that case, you have lots of "correcting" to do - in places going back pages and pages.

I don't care to compete. That's childish. You're the one that said a post is classical like Chopin's music.

agaugust: This post above is classical !

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Fake MBA. The post is "classic".

Music is "classical". How did you write your fake thesis?

There were always doubts that Naai-geria could fight. And now we will never know, will we? Unless we keep our eyes on the Boko Har*m mission, where Abubaker continues to make Naai-geria look like id*ots.

http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2012/nov/05/nigerian-army-mali-mission-delayed


"The "shocking" state of the Nigerian army has delayed plans for a military intervention in Mali, amid reports that it lacks the capability to fight on the frontline."

The "great" influential giant sent troops to Mali. It failed to feed them. It failed to exert its influence on the mission. It failed to sustain the mission. It failed to show us how influential it is. Disregarded and pushed aside was Naai-geria.

And now Naai-geria is in the process of being replaced.

How can a giant be so easily replaced? Doesn't look like anyone is begging Naai-geria to stay.

That says it all.

chris365: highly rated cos of the cosmetic beautiful buildings. south africa education system is a failure in disguise.

South Africa education crisis fuels state school exodus

South Africa's education and finance ministers are being taken to court over poor standards at state schools. The BBC's Karen Allen investigates the education crisis and why some parents in Eastern Cape province are opting to send their children to private schools despite the cost.

Far from being well-endowed with land and smart buildings, Getahead High is situated in a disused warehouse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17315157

Our Education System is Failing Our Children
According to a recent survey, South Africa invest more money in public education than other emerging markets but continues to yield a lower adult literacy rate. - See more at: http://www.jaynaidoo.org/our-education-system-is-failing-our-children/#sthash.MvB4sGMD.dpuf

Education experts lament South Africa test results
They say the latest graduation exams are further proof that poor blacks have little hope of achieving a meaningful role in the nation's modern economy.

"The implication is that we are not building a united society. The student body of every township and rural school is 100% poor and black. These young people do not have a stake in modern, urban, prosperous South Africa."

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/04/world/la-fg-south-africa-schools-20130104

South Africa’s schooling system is failing the majority of young people. Leaders throughout our society, public and private, do not speak about the crisis in education often enough or with sufficient focus on the urgent need for effective action.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2011/09/07/south-africa-needs-new-education-system-cde

and finally, SA is gradually slipping to a failed state
Joblessness is a particular problem for the young. The unemployment rate for those under 25 is 53%. Many are ill-prepared for work. Only 60% pass the matric, the high-school graduation certificate. One legacy of apartheid is that many blacks live far from where the jobs are. Even travelling to a job interview is costly because of poor public transport.
http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21578692-slow-growth-and-sliding-currency-are-alarming-symptoms-deeper

i can now see why you attended two universities and still remained S.TUPID.
your country is not free from filth so shut the f*ck up

Well, what you don't get is that SA's definition of a "crisis" is not the same as Naai-geria's.

Naai-geria is in crisis today, but denies that it is.

South Africa is not in crisis today, but it says that it is. That's why South Africa remains bigger and better than Naai-geria. That's why your politicians ask South Africa to teach them.

That's why our education system remains trusted notwithstanding the problems and yours is not.

98% Naai-gerians fail WAEC English and Maths. Thas close to a 100% failure rate. You have the right to speak, how?

Naai-geria is already red on the failed states index. You have the right to speak, how?

Naai-geria has red travel warnings issued against it. You have the right to speak, how?

Naai-geria has tribal and religious mass killings. You have the right to speak, how?

drag_on: @craigb
your reliability as a source of information has hit a new low.
from the same link: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/07/nigeria-withdraws-troops-from-mali/
However, a military source said troops would pull out because the country felt “shabbily treated” under the new UN force in Mali.
A Nigerian commanded the previous African-led force in the country, but the UN mission is being headed by a Rwandan.
The source said: “Nigeria feels shabbily treated when it became a UN outfit. A non-Nigerian was appointed as Force Commander, while we are putting so much into the mission.
“So we think we can make better use of those people at home than to keep them where they are not appreciated. It is not all of them that will be withdrawn.
why not tell the whole story? I am embarrassed for you

That excuse only makes sense to you if you are a Naai-gerian and are desperate.

So tell me this - if this is "in protest", why not withdraw everyone? Does that make sense?

Same source:

“They are not withdrawing everyone. They are withdrawing part of the troops. A good part of the troops are going to be there.”

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The excuse is to be ignored, surely? Even if it were to be accepted as a valid excuse, how does Naai-geria come out as a shining military?

Did the Naai-gerian mission to Mali succeed?

No, it did not. Therefore, Naai-geria's mission to Mali failed.

The reasons for the failure are as follows:

*insert reason here

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/07/nigeria-withdraws-troops-from-mali/

"The government dismissed the claim that the withdrawal was in protest over the appointment of non-Nigerian to head the AFISMA in the crisis-ridden country."

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The story of a losing people.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE96H1IH20130718?irpc=932


Looks like Naai-geria aren't as indispensable as they wish to be.

"We can confirm that Nigeria has officially notified (U.N. peacekeeping) of its intention to withdraw some of its troops - up to two battalions - from UNAMID," said U.N. peacekeeping spokesman Kieran Dwyer. The United Nations was in discussions with other countries to replace the Nigerians, she said.

So much for "the protest". Looks like boko is the straw that broke the camel's back.

A Nigerian military source and two other diplomats in West Africa confirmed the planned pullout, saying it was mainly due to the need to tackle the country's own insurgency.

Msauza: We are tired of those fake computerised pictures from attention seeking racists. Many of those videos were discussed in SA that they infact never real and that pictures of white people generally injured across the world are staged as if they actually happened in SA. Many of those pictures were linked to be from Russia in chechnya and neighbouring countries.

Msauza, you worry too much. South Africans have seen these pictures and we all know they mean nothing. I have no worries that I'm going to be hacked to death with all machete as soon as Mandela dies. Leave this stuff alone. It's smoke and mirrors.

Rather, tell me what you think about this "strategic withdrawal" from Mali (?)

For anyone who cares to know, my dinner was lovely and am jetting off home

I'm sure the South Africans care for my well being. I enjoyed my dinner, fellow South Africans.

Now have you people slept and woken up or are you just "staying up".

Can I get something straight - did this war on here happen because we spoke about Naai-geria's withdrawal from Mali?

Well, no amount of smoke and mirror tactics will change facts. There's only only story this week. The story is not South Africa. The story is not illegal immigrants to SA or Naai-gerian drug dealers in Hillbrow. The story is not Zulu people or brave or cowardly nation.

There's only one story. Naai-geria set off on a mission to Mali. Naai-geria made lots of noises when they set off on said mission. Naai-geria has since failed to sustain said mission.

Naai-geria can't be the great military they claim to be, surely?

We've says it time and again, Naai-geria does not have west it takes. And there you have it - Naai-geria's blundered and are now on the underside of foreign relations. Let's hear the empty chest beating now: 1, 2, 3....

NaijaPikinGidi: Thought you were with your colleagues already? How does it matter to me what you care about? Free yourself. Come address me directly when your tomorrow comes! Funny kid!

Driving Naai-gerian.

You seem to care. Y all the posts then?

NaijaPikinGidi: You obviously won't get the pleasure of succeeding with your mischief on my account. Until you can pose a question directly to me ... please have a good time with your colleagues! You deserve yourselves!!

Like I said, at this point, I couldn't care less what "pleasures" a Naai-gerian "denies" me. I'm going to eat. I won't have an accident just because I'm battling a Naai-gerian online. Even hell wont have me under thise circumstances. Enjoy yourself dude.

Naai-geria will still java withdrawn tomorrow. The topic isn't running away.

NaijaPikinGidi: Is CraigB now so spineless ... he is unable to ask me a direct question?

Asked you to explain. You failed to. I won't keep asking the same question. I'm on my way to have dinner with my colleagues, in which case you could probably understand why the sudden lack of interest. If you still want to explain, see you on the other side. If not, I couldn't care less at this point. I'm going to eat!

zetdee: And if they not hating on other countries, they're bickering amongst themselves. Almost every thread turns into an igbo vs yoruba vs hausa, no wonder that country is in such a mess.

It's such a shame, because the common denominator is always Naai-geria. It's Naai-geria vs Ghana. Naai-geria vs the US. Naai-geria vs Kenya. Naai-geria va SA. Naai-geria vs Naai-gerian and so on.

Whatever happened here?

Even at a diplomatic level, Naai-geria always has these diplomatic rows with nations.

If it's not the UK visa bond issue, it's the Kenyan deportation issue. If it's not that, it's something else.

NaijaPikinGidi: Point out the excuses! Facts irritate you quite obviously!!

One word:

"Responsibility"

Beeeeeeg excuse!