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Sports / Re: Hatefull & Funny Comments By South-africans After Nigeria's Loss To Congo by CraigB: 11:19pm On Sep 08, 2014
edi287:
Oh so a nigerian snatched your wife huh?? That explains everything. So what the Bleep are you doing on a nigerian site if i may ask??
Signs of a fucken dickrider.

I understand the frustration. Whenever a nation has nothing to offer, they go for the most basic of retorts - s*x.

You could have come up with an elevated argument if your nation had elevated examples. But there's none.

Your only example is how to make babies and have the biggest population in a country the size of Texas or thereabouts.
Sports / Re: Hatefull & Funny Comments By South-africans After Nigeria's Loss To Congo by CraigB: 11:15pm On Sep 08, 2014
edi287:
Then tell the South African companies in Nigeria to piss off first, then maybe you can say shit about nigerians being in mzansi then. Personally i blame the idiots that went there for whatever reason in the first place...

Tell your Naai-gerian politicians to STOP allowing the South African companies in, in return for kickbacks.

Naai-gerians are always selling their own.

First, it was slavery.

Now, your politicians are selling Naai-gerian business to South Africa.

Anger won't change the facts.

How can you demand respect when you can't respect yourself?
Sports / Re: Hatefull & Funny Comments By South-africans After Nigeria's Loss To Congo by CraigB: 11:10pm On Sep 08, 2014
edi287:
Well i'm saying it like it is then..
1. All black south africans are rapists...they love raping kids as young as 5 weeks old and white people just to "display superiority"
2. All black south africans have hiv/aids....and they try to spread it around by raping people.
3. All black south africans hate foreigners...they think they've come to take their jobs and women.

There...lets play the stereotyping game...fucking cunt.


Rapists in THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

HIV IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

Hate foreigners IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

Naai-gerians on the other hand...

The below says it all - and that's the point below.

Why should South Africans deal with Naai-gerian druglords?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRCPpcSFG7E

Look at the very white cops LOVING the naai-gerian below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry3N6CIvQP0
Sports / Re: Hatefull & Funny Comments By South-africans After Nigeria's Loss To Congo by CraigB: 11:02pm On Sep 08, 2014
edi287:
Dude don't try and reason with some of these mzansi guys. I don't blame them, i blame the asswipes we've had as leaders that turned our country into the cesspit that it is presently. I also blame the idiots that go to that country to waste their lives doing dumb things. If all nigerians are drugdealers/419ers, then all black south africans are rapists and have hiv/aids...simple as that. No need to be fucken diplomatic with these punks.

But the South Africans are rapists in their own country. The same could hardly be said for Naai-gerians.

I understand the butthurt, but facts are facts.
Sports / Re: Hatefull & Funny Comments By South-africans After Nigeria's Loss To Congo by CraigB: 10:59pm On Sep 08, 2014
edi287:
Well at least i never saw any white/afrikaaner say anything stupid as "Nigerians have come to steal their women" etc. Nigerians are not the ones that rape 5 weeks old white babies or use white people for rituals. Trust me idiot..the places i lived back when i was still in mzansi,you wouldn't even dream of living there even as a househelp or driver you stupid twerp. I'm not like the idiots you see around hillbrow/melville.

Well you never saw one, until today. Now, you know. Stop playing the victim.

Own up to the behaviour of your brothers and stop pleading blindness. Why should South Africans feel guilty about saying it like it is?

Naaai-gerians don't even love each other. So, why demand love from strangers, when you can't give/get it at home?

There's only one issue - Naaigerians are notorious all over the world. Where you've lived or not lived is irrelevant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E14BeQp0W4w#t=288
Sports / Re: Hatefull & Funny Comments By South-africans After Nigeria's Loss To Congo by CraigB: 10:53pm On Sep 08, 2014
Litmus: "Nigerians sell drugs and we don't like them", is simply stated by ignorant people.

Here's what happened (abridged) During apartheid Nigeria emerged as one of the biggest external voices against the system. Whites were anxious that blacks worldwide and in Africa would wage war on them sooner or later. Nigeria, as the nation with the largest black population and also most vociferous, became a natural focal point for the fear of the black hordes waiting over the horizon. White South Africa demonized Nigeria as did Western Nations abroad that wanted to end Apathied by peaceful means.


Now, people have to understand that Blacks generally coonishly like the things that White people like and hate the things that white people loath and dislike. Whites loath uppity blacks so blacks loath uppity blacks too.


When Apartheid ended, the media tradition of demonizing Nigeria never really ended, it evolved and, with Black south Africans finding that life was not going to be as rosy as they thought- which of course it wouldn't since redistribution of wealth will take time - they looked to blame all sorts of issues for their problems. They took out their frustrations on immigrants.

Nigerians just happen to be a happy marriage between white demonisation and blacks looking for Africans from other nations to take out their frustrations on. To make matters worst Nigerians just happen to be the immigrant Africans that most fitted the excuses of black South Africans i.e They take our jobs, women, do crime, act big and own the houses and businesses that should belong to us.

Smoke and mirrors. Your post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E14BeQp0W4w#t=288
Sports / Re: Hatefull & Funny Comments By South-africans After Nigeria's Loss To Congo by CraigB: 9:20pm On Sep 08, 2014
edi287:
Lol@ hiddden frustrations....Again i ask you, why should i be frustrated?? Show me a post where i said "all black South Africans hate Nigerians"
I lived in mzansi for 4 years...so i'm not "writing fallacies", i'm speaking based on what i've seen/saw back then. You're the liar claiming you've never heard one of your countrymen stereotype Nigerians.

Black South Africans, you say?

Why don't you add on to that list Indians from India, Malaysians, the Chinese, et cetera.

In fact, name 5 nations that love Naai-gerian guests, as opposed to tolerating them. Forever playing the victim.

Oh, by the by, add white south Africans on to your list too. Of course, if you spend all your days in Hillbrow, you wouldn't know to do that.
Sports / Re: Hatefull & Funny Comments By South-africans After Nigeria's Loss To Congo by CraigB: 7:59pm On Sep 08, 2014
tomiobj: they have turned footbal to something as serious as insulting our nation.

Your nation insults themselves by selling drugs in South Africa and generally being known for bad things in the country.

Bad guests, you are.
Sports / Re: Hatefull & Funny Comments By South-africans After Nigeria's Loss To Congo by CraigB: 7:58pm On Sep 08, 2014
14:

Did you say Sore Losers? who lost

Er, that would be Naai-geria.

Lost against congo.

Lost top spot in African champs.

Lost top spot in youth champs.

Lost top africa spot in commonwealth games.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 4:21pm On Sep 08, 2014
agaugust:
Ask Seleka rebels grin
.

You really showed him with that empty retort.

Hey, augubub, everything you read is just like stevie said:

Naai-gerian towns are falling like a dominoes.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 3:14pm On Sep 08, 2014
Thiza: BLOODY COWARDS
One of the Bama leaders said he found it hard to understand why their colleagues in Maiduguri were lying to the press about the status of Bama. He told SaharaReporters that he had fled Bama along with many soldiers to Maiduguri. “I even used my car more than fifteen times to drive soldiers from Konduga to Maiduguri,” he said.

You ain't seen nothin yet.

Naai-geria is an insult to all the militaries of the world.

They should be burnt at the stake, the useless clowns.

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trib.al/s4WVXHl


http://m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29110663?ocid=socialflow_twitter


Nigeria's Boko Haram 'seize' Michika in Adamawa state
1 hour ago

Leader Abubakar Shekau has announced a caliphate in areas Boko Haram controls
Nigeria's militant Islamist group Boko Haram has captured the key north-eastern town of Michika, residents say, gaining more territory in its efforts to create an Islamic state.

People fled into bushes as gunfire rang out in the town, they added.

Boko Haram has changed tactics in recent months by holding on to territory rather than launching hit-and-run attacks.

The government called on Nigerians not to lose hope.

The military was committed to defending Nigeria's territorial integrity, it said.

Soldiers killed 50 militants during a raid on their hideout in the small north-eastern town of Kawuri at the weekend, the army said.


Last month, Boko Haram said it had established an Islamic state in areas it controls in north-eastern Nigeria.

Michika is a trading centre in Adamawa state not far from the Cameroon border.

'Fear and panic'

Concern is mounting that the group plans to target Maiduguri, capital of neighbouring Borno state, says the BBC Hausa Service's Bilikisu Babangida.

Thousands of people who have fled towns and villages captured by Boko Haram are taking refuge in the city, which has a population of about two million.

The fall of Michika will add to the fear and panic that has gripped the north-east, as it shows Boko Haram is gaining territory not only in their heartland of Borno but also in Adamawa state, our reporter says.


Thousands of extra soldiers have failed to quell the five-year insurgency
Amid fears that Boko Haram could advance further into Adamawa, the university in Mubi town has shut, she says.

On Thursday, the militants captured the small town of Gulak after earlier seizing Madagali, which borders Adamawa and Borno states.

Residents told the BBC that Boko Haram fighters entered Michika on Sunday in a convoy of vehicles.

A military jet circled over the town, causing the militants to hide in people's homes, they said.

There was confusion as people ran into the bush fleeing gunfire, residents added.

It was unclear who opened fire as the insurgents often wear uniforms similar to the Nigerian soldiers, they said.

Last year, President Goodluck Jonathan imposed a state of emergency in Borno, Adamawa and Yobe states, vowing to send more troops to crush the insurgency.

However, Boko Haram has stepped up its offensive since then.

In April, the militants captured more than 200 girls from a boarding school in the town of Chibok, also in Borno state.

Countries such as China, France, the UK and US have sent military assistance to help find the girls but they have not yet been rescued.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 8:44am On Sep 08, 2014
One word:

Uselessness


www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/09/07/nigerians-flee-boko-haram-seizes-more-towns

Nigerians flee as Boko Haram seizes more towns







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Thousands of residents in Nigeria's northeast have fled their homes after troops failed to retake a major town seized by Boko Haram militants.
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Thousands of fear-stricken residents in Nigeria's northeast Adamawa state have fled after troops failed to retake a major town seized by Boko Haram militants.

Residents of Madagali, Gulak and Michika and nearby villages escaped on Friday and Saturday when a Boko Haram advance repelled a military offensive to retake Madagali, which has been in the hands of the militants since last month.

"All the residents of Madagali, Gulak and Michika have fled their homes to the mountains and Mubi town after soldiers retreated from Madagali where they made a failed attempt to push out the insurgents and the recapture the town," said Bello Alaramma who was among those who made their way to Mubi, 76 kilometres away.

"Boko Haram are now in control of Gulak," the headquarters of Madagali local government in Adamawa state, Alaramma said.

Defence headquarters spokesman Major General Chris Olukolade declined to comment on the Boko Haram seizure of more towns in the region.

Troops in retreat drove into Gulak firing shots in the air after they were overpowered by the militants in Madagali, 20 kilometres away, said resident Ayuba Daniel.

"Around 5:00pm (1600GMT) yesterday (Friday) we started seeing hordes of soldiers in vans, trucks and armoured cars driving through Gulak firing shots in the air and soon afterwards people from Madagali started trooping in telling us Boko Haram were on their way," Daniel said.

"This forced us to flee to Mubi and nearby mountains," he said.

Residents of Mubi said people from Michika, Gulak and Madagali now crowded the town.

"Mubi is now flooded with people from Michika, Madagali, Gulak, Uba and other villages, who have been trooping in since last night," said resident Muhammad Maishanu.

"The influx is causing apprehension among people in Mubi who fear the influx would attract Boko Haram, who have attacked Mubi before," he said.

Mubi, the commercial hub of the state, has experienced several attacks.

At least 40 people were killed in June when an explosion ripped through a soccer venue.

In October 2012 at least 40 college students were shot dead in attacks on their hostels.

Both attacks were blamed on Boko Haram.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Where Would South Africa Be Without White People? by CraigB: 11:35pm On Sep 07, 2014
ZDee:
Let's see, you compared you monkey brothets to Chinese, your're to dumb to even remember, hey? Now you giving out assignments, what a moro.n... grin grin

Spank the monkey Tafelkoppe, Zdee! grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcyuIKzpYJQ
Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 6:32pm On Sep 06, 2014
agaugust:

I said both you and us are third world, or you have only one eye to read?

I won't go on with photos of cities because it will derail this thread, a little once in a while is not bad, but I won't go too far.

I have posted enough. You can send your city view photos here...

https://www.nairaland.com/897396/where-south-africa-without-white/145

.

And I showed you that you are wrong.

And since when are you not happy to post photos?

Oh, I know! You cannot match Thiza's pictures.

We will assume "derail" is meant to be read as an apology from you for having ventured to where your legs couldn't carry you.

All's forgiven.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 5:21pm On Sep 06, 2014
agaugust:

Revisit Nigeria in 3 years time when Eko Atlantic city, Lekki Free Trade Zone, Greater PHC, and Centenary city are almost completed.

Rome was not built in a day. Nigeria is advancing. The most important thing is the change, not the current level.

Was Soweto a nice place for foreigners to visit in 1995 ?
.

You mean change like having expanding caliphates?

In three years' time, Naaigeria will still be battling Boko Haram.

Please say 'not-so', so we could remind you how you said 'not so' when we told you that your state of emergency would be extended.

Well done for accepting that you still have a lot of building to do.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 5:08pm On Sep 06, 2014
agaugust:

Same with South Africa, we are both third world nations together, reason why I don't care to visit your over-rated country.

Wrong!

Go back to school. "First and third world" were terms used to indicate allegiance during WW2/coldwar or thereabouts.

South Africa was first world. Those terms don't exist anymore. Not really.

Only "developed and developing" countries.

South Africa and Naaigeria aren't the same kind of developing country.

1a. Naaigeria = Frontier market.

1b. South Africa = Emerging market proper.

2a. Naai-geria = Developing Country. Full stop

2b. South Africa = Newly Industrialised Country (NIC).

We don't care to have you in our country either. Too many of your kind here already.

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Picture 1 - NICs. -----> http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/ks3/geography/interdependence/development/revision/4/

Picture 2 - The first world. -----> http://coolgeography.co.uk/GCSE/AQA/Development_Gap/Mapping_dev/Mapping_Development.htm

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 2:13pm On Sep 06, 2014
agaugust:

If only 5,000 armed and suicide ready Al Qaeda Islamic Jihadists exist and live as South African citizens disguising daily as ordinary civilians living and spread all over South Africa, your country will be like Somalia grin

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If the bombing had happened in Naai-geria, we'd be looking at the beginning of a three-year insurgency.

Look at how South Africa will simply get on with the business of life, seeing as the security agencies have this covered.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 2:11pm On Sep 06, 2014
Thiza: @AUGUSTUS NOW YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THE WORLD COMES TO SOUTH AFRICA

According to the figures, South Africa outstripped the average global growth rate of about 4% as estimated by the UN World Tourism Organisation with strong year-on-year growth (33.7%) coming from Asia. Excluding Africa, which produced a 7.5% growth in tourists to South Africa last year, overseas tourist numbers rose by 15.1%, which was one of the highest growth rates in the world.

Tourism Minister Marthinus van Schalkwyk told journalists that the infrastructure put in place for the 2010 World Cup had stood South Africa in good stead and it now had good facilities. South Africa’s participation in the grouping of Brazil, Russia, India and China (Brics) also had the huge potential to boost tourism. They accounted for 330,834 of the international tourist numbers last year.

The growing importance of tourism to the economy was highlighted by Statistics South Africa data which showed that in 2011 the direct contribution of tourism to GDP rose by 5% to R84.3bn — well above the 3.1% growth in the economy in 2011-12. Domestic tourism expenditure expanded to R101bn in 2011 from R69bn in 2010.


Hahaha, I saw an article that the naai-gerian Tafelkoppe have turned to bird watching as a means of getting tourists?!

Really, dudes and dudettes?!

You know what's funny? A bird watching expert said no serious bird watchers would come to Naai-geria.

When it rains, it pours.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 2:04pm On Sep 06, 2014
agaugust:

Dude, Nigerians have better things to do with their time than living on photography.

The pictures I posted are all from different cities including Calabar.

I still have and keep Kaduna, Jos, Uyo, and rural areas with fantastic photos, but this is a military thread, so I wont go too far.

Lagos population is almost half of the whole South African nation, if I post Lagos, I have shown you a city of 22 million people !

A lot of beautiful rural areas of Nigeria is not photographed by anyone on internet.

Uyo is almost as beautiful as Lagos now, but very scarce photos.

Eko Atlantic city is under construction and very scarce photos.

If you see rocks and resorts in Jos you will marvel, but photos are scarce.

Then I don't want to turn this military thread into a social thread. I won't derail it.

Thanks.

Better things like what?

It's not like you're winning wars?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 2:03pm On Sep 06, 2014
agaugust: .
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Bama Battle Update :

Nigerian army k.ills 1,200 Boko Haram Fighters In 5 days

It is the mother of all battles

NAF jets and helicopters attack ALL Boko Haram bases simultaneously

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/boko-haram-jonathan-declares-full-scale-war-deploys-warplanes/

Africa's most experienced army gets angry o !

[/size]

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See, that's exactly where the problem is. Your military is full of emotions. Never professional tactics.

That's why it gets trashed by boko haram, who are better tacticians here.

Happy getting angry.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 1:47pm On Sep 06, 2014
agaugust:

You have never google searched for any good news about Nigeria, Hello Piggy kiss
.

I have successfully bragged about SA, however. Because there's plenty to brag about.

Naai-geria on the other hand..? Bad news upon bad news.

Thiza has taken the firepower out of your brags. No Naai-gerian Tafelkop can match Thiza's posts today.
What how? Oh, I know! Piggy tactics.

Hello piggy the second.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 1:41pm On Sep 06, 2014
chris365: SANDU accuses SANDF of unlawful threat and deployment of troops against SAPS



Media statement: SANDU is utterly dismayed at the reports from several soldiers and policemen in Oudtshoorn to our Head Office, of a certain Army general who, whilst allegedly intoxicated, unlawfully mobilised armed soldiers and armoured infantry fighting vehicles in order to free a senior ranking SANDF officer and several other soldiers, arrested in a police raid on a notorious illegal shebeen, in Bongilethu on Saturday night, from police custody.

SANDU is equally dismayed at the fact that the SANDF has up to now failed to take any measures to deal with the army General involved in what can only be described as military backed armed insurrection against the SAPS. In fact, even if steps are taken now, it would only be because this incident has been exposed in the media. We challenge the Chief of the SANDF to illustrate that management members are not treated differently from the ordinary rank and file, who often get suspended for alleged minor infringements. The force and speed with which the military management targeted the officers in the Guptagate affair, as opposed to the current lack of action, shows bias in favour of political expediency and party political interests.

SANDU is informed that soldiers in Oudtshoorn were warned by military authorities to remain silent about this incident or face disciplinary measures. We demand that the SANDF immediately suspends the general involved and investigate charges of intimidation and sedition against him. Clearly his conduct displays utter abuse of rank and the belief that he is above the law. In addition, his conduct illustrates that he cannot be trusted in a position of military authority and that he is irresponsible and dangerous, being in command of military personnel and equipment.

Should the SANDF fail to take steps against the general involved, SANDU will lay charges of sedition against him in the public interest and pursue the matter to its full finality.

Adv JG (Pikkie) GREEFF
NATIONAL SECRETARY: SANDU
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/content.php/8447-SANDU-accuses-SANDF-of-unlawful-threat-and-deployment-of-troops-against-SAPS

Hehehehehehehe.... Smouth afruka carefully hid this one from international eyes.. But not from me grin

Hello Piggy.

Looks like the South Africans are beating you on the "let's brag about our countries" front.

You have no retort.

You have nothing worth bragging about...
Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 4:51pm On Sep 05, 2014
chris365: Na small small extremists dey start. Well one to south Africa my dear bomberscheesy.


Cape Town - It appears that Woolworths was

not the target of a bombing near one of its

branches in Cape Town, the

retail group said on Friday.

It said that CCTV footage showed a man

walking past the Woolworths food store in

Kromboom Road, Athlone, and

placing a device outside a neighbouring store.

Several stores were damaged. There were no

injuries.

Western Cape police are investigating but

would not elaborate on Woolworths latest

statement, said spokesperson

Captain FC van Wyk.

No arrests have been made, Van Wyk said.

A second pipe bomb exploded near a car

dealership in nearby Belgravia Road also on

Friday morning.

The City of Cape Town's fire and rescue

services told Eyewitness News they were called

to Belgravia Road after an

apparent explosion. They found a car was on

fire, and bystanders said it had exploded.

eNCA reporter Lester Kiewit said that there

were similar pipe-bombings at two auto

dealerships in Athlone in August last year



I love how Chris has been reduced to searching the net for bad news on South Africa, Hello Piggy! kiss
Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 4:50pm On Sep 05, 2014
agaugust:
Warning bells for Shout Afrika republic
.

All that's gonna happen is that you will be shown how civilised nations deal with this type of thing. Whatever it is , it will be a nice lesson for your loser nation.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Where Would South Africa Be Without White People? by CraigB: 12:23pm On Sep 05, 2014
EroZA: His own country man posted on another thread that they want to sacrifice him to the gods so that Boko harams stop their insurgency....according to that genuine Nigerian all4kak comments invite troubles to the Nigerian nation...




grin grin grin grin


Hahaha, the devil reincarnate likes his own posts...
Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:06am On Sep 05, 2014
Henry120:

gringringringrin

China's external territory outside asia, and it's main outpost in Africa. The chinese government use Zuma and his government like a mop.

Yes, that's what Naai-gerians worldwide are crying for BRICS.

Say "not so" so we can post the threads.

Say "not so", so we can show you China's "roads-for-your-soul" operations in Naai-geria.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 6:58pm On Sep 04, 2014
chris365: THIS PROBABLY SUMS IT UP sad sad sad sad

[size=14pt]The South African National Defense Force - A Military in Freefall[/size]
Despite an eagerness to use the South African National Defense Force (SANDF) as a means of projecting the nation's influence abroad, there is evidence that South Africa's government has so neglected or mismanaged its military assets that it may soon be unable to defend itself, much less engage in international adventures.

Last year, Roelf Meyer, the chairman of South Africa's defense review committee, identified a number of strategic goals for the SANDF, including:

· Maintaining the security of South Africa's borders;

· Promoting peace and security in Africa;

· Assisting civil authorities in policing or anti-poaching efforts;

· Establishing South Africa as a responsible leading member of the African Union;

· Responding to new regional threats such as piracy (Business Day [Johannesburg], April 13, 2012).

However, with a reduced force size and inadequate resources, the SANDF will soon have difficulty meeting most of these goals.

[b]Life in the South African military is not seen as desirable by many potential recruits. Pay can be erratic, HIV rates are as high as 25% (making these troops unavailable for external deployment) and an estimated 35% of South Africa's military barracks have been classed as unfit for human occupation since 2007 (Mail & Guardian [Johannesburg], April 21, 2012). Without money to operate sophisticated equipment, skilled staff continue to flee at the end of their enlistment and there is little opportunity for new recruits to train in skills useful in the civilian world. Parliament's Joint Standing Committee on Defense has described abuse of women in the SANDF as "common," adding that many female recruits have been impregnated by their instructors (BUAnews, November 26, 2011). Racial abuse of black subordinates by white senior officers also remains a problem 19 years into the integration process. South African troops are unionized and have at times clashed with police during pay disputes[/b].

With the 2012 defense budget of $3.8 billion still far below the 2 percent of GDP required to maintain the armed forces, the South African defense department began looking at other ways of generating income, including contracting out soldiers to municipalities to do various labor and infrastructure repair projects. The department also created the Defense Estate Management agency to lease or sell-off defense department lands. Much of the land owned by the SANDF came by way of British government endowments of military facilities made on the condition that they could only be used for defense purposes

Politicization of the military is still a problem in South Africa. There has been speculation that the current chief of the SANDF, Angolan-trained Lieutenant General Solly Zacharia Shoke, received his appointment as a result of his history as a commander in Umkhonto we Sizwe, the ANC's military wing (SAPA, May 11, 2011). Umkhonto we Sizwe forces were integrated into the newly formed SANDF between 1994 and 2004. An investigative commission recently declared that the SANDF was too politicized, a situation typified by former Defense Minister Lindiwe Sisulu's preference for wearing SANDF uniforms at public occasions

A sometimes unaccountable procurement process remains a problem for the South African military; last year the political opposition revealed over $7.75 billion had passed through a defense department slush fund that had failed to reveal to parliament how the money had been spent (Johannesburg Times, April 18, 2012). The army has been overlooked in recent acquisition programs and is close to finding itself equipped with obsolete equipment in terms of armored personnel carriers, logistics vehicles and main battle tanks

South Africa's once-effective air force has new aircraft but cannot afford the fuel and maintenance needed to keep them in the air. Despite this, one element of the air force that did see extensive time in the air was Squadron 21, charged with flying South African VIPs and government ministers. Former defense minister Lindiwe Sisilu booked 203 flights over three years in chartered luxury Gulfstream jets at an estimated cost of $4.5 million. Some 63 of the flights were empty, as they were intended solely to pick the minister up somewhere and take her to another destination in what one opposition critic described as "a staggering waste of money"

While government ministers travel in luxury, the South African Air Force (SAAF) still transports troops in 70-year-old Dakota aircraft. One of these, a Dakota C47TP (an upgraded DC-3 with turbine engines) crashed, claiming 11 lives when it was unable to fly above inclement weather. The crash came shortly after the military decided it could no longer afford a maintenance contract for its military aircraft (SAPA, December 6, 2012; Sunday Times [Johannesburg], December 10, 2012). World War II-era Dakotas also continue to be used for surveillance of South Africa's 3,900 kilometer coastline in the absence of modern surveillance aircraft. Meanwhile, 26 new Swedish-built Gripen fighter-jets, purchased at a cost of R10 billion (approximately $1 billion), average only two hours in the air each week; not enough to keep the machines in operable condition and far from the 10 hours of flight-time each week considered necessary to keep pilots well-trained

Former SAAF chief Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano retired in 2012 after trying to resign in late 2011 during his hospitalization for stress as he continued to try unsuccessfully to find enough money for the fuel and maintenance to keep the SAAF in the air. His successor, Lieutenant General Fabian Zimpande Msimang (the first black chief of the SAAF) will have trouble keeping all but executive travel jets in the air if current funding problems continue

The once formidable South African navy now spends little time at sea. Replacement parts and maintenance budgets barely exist, leaving only one of the navy's four new frigates operational and only one its four new submarines able to put out to sea (Sunday Times [Johannesburg], December 10, 2012). South African Navy ships and SAAF aircraft carry out anti-piracy operations in the Mozambique Channel, though this mission is also threatened by underfunding.

Despite economic troubles and a collapsing military, South Africa still desires to be a major player in Africa, which encourages it to commit to missions that stretch the military's capacity to its breaking point. Unless current trends are reversed, the steady transformation of the SANDF into an assembly of riot police and border guards will be completed in just a few years. Geography and reputation have left South Africa with few external enemies, but it is also extremely wealthy in various resources. South Africa was only cobbled together from various constituent parts a little more than a century ago, and it would not be surprising if a general collapse of South Africa's security infrastructure invited the emergence of secessionist movements drawing on both domestic and external inspiration. South Africa's eventual inability to project force beyond its borders will also have important implications for regional security in sub-Saharan Africa.

This report was compiled by JAMESTOWN FOUNDATION and cited from "Terrorism Monitor Volume: 11 Issue: 2"

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... oh my sides grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin the dakota part cracked my ribs grin grin

Poor "desperado" Chris. Resorted to "piggy" tactics, have we? Nice to see you've been complaining about what you are.

If South Africa is in free fall, where does that leave Naai-geria? In absolute obsoluteness?

Remember? Standards? When we say "poor", we mean what's "first world" in Naai-geria.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Where Would South Africa Be Without White People? by CraigB: 5:15pm On Sep 04, 2014
EroZA: Am not comparing your giant with Lesotho but telling you that Lesotho is ahead of Nigeria when it comes to global competiveness ...


If the Tafelkoppe aren't competitive, what are they?

Oh, I know! Exploitable, that's what.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 5:11pm On Sep 04, 2014
chris365: Now I see why seleka feasted on sandf and made them run back to Soweto like scared dogs grin. And why they needed Tanzanian protection in drc grin


Weak Leadership And Silence On Loss Of SAndf Skills


RAFEEK SHAH, MP
DA SPOKESPERSON FOR DEFENCE

An average of 187 skilled and experienced technicians and 24 pilots of the South African Air Force (SAAF) resign annually. According to a parliamentary reply (1), we are experiencing a steady loss of skills and experience, which has serious implications for force readiness, the maintenance of equipment and weaponry, and the supervision of subordinate members.

The Democratic Alliance (DA) wrote a letter to the previous Minister of Defence asking for details on what is being done to address the ongoing loss of critical skills in the military, as well as for details of a contingency plan which will guarantee that our defence capability is not compromised. To date, the DA has not received any reply.

In September 2008, we called upon the new Minister, Charles Nqakula, to tell the public what he intended to do about the loss of military skills. To date, we have heard nothing. Repeatedly, we see clear evidence of weak and ineffective leadership in critical issues. Is the Minister going to wait until there is no one left before he acts?

Since 2004:

? There have been 94 resignations by pilots, and all of these were of the rank Second Lieutenant and higher;
? There have been 746 resignations by SAAF technical personnel and of these, 51 resignations were of the rank Second Lieutenant and higher;
? There have been 114 resignations from Command and Control (2), and of these 40 were of the rank Second Lieutenant and higher.

We can clearly see that there is a steady loss of skills and experience from the SAAF every year. While the military is bringing in new members through the Military Skills Development System (MSDS), this system merely replaces bodies but not skills and experience. The loss of senior experienced personnel also affects the ability of the military to develop young military leadership by example and skills transfer.

We want to see clear, decisive action being taken by the Minister to assure us that something is being done to address this issue. We repeat our calls for the Minister to address the public on this matter and for a full audit to be done to determine why people are resigning.

(1) Parliamentary Reply No. 1476/2008
(2) Command and Control provides operationally ready command and control elements in support of air battle space operations

Please tell the forum what a "DA spokesperson for the defence" is.

Show us you aren't super olodo. I dare you.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 5:06pm On Sep 04, 2014
chris365:

Are you trying to tell us that all those while you were posting pictures of dead civilians means you were desperate as well? Your usual piggy stink stink I guess grin

You're the king of posting pictures of dead civilians.

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