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chris365: my brother the thing tire me sef. see how i whyne this pikin to mumuness?

You are free to go change it.

Your arguments will be duly considered.

chris365: slam dunk

see how i finally made you confess that Nigeria was in command of it's troops and african forces. and you want to claim you are smarter. you just proved your ignorance and slow thinking tendencies boy.

see why i said you should spend less time insulting people?

like i said earlier. i will never exclude French role just to convince en empty head. you just confirmed Nigeria was in command.. in my profession we call it a "slam dunk"

thank you. now who commands SANDF in DRC?

where's that my foot in your mouth again? i love that picture

Where did I confess it? Where did I deny it? Quote it. This is your own argument. Not mine.

I've always said "your words".

In your words, you commanded.

In your words, France led. [ Your words: " although France played the lead role, i posted a link where a senior Malian officer said Nigeria was involved...".]

In your words, you are stooges.

Your own argument. Dead.

You monkeyed up. "Naai-geria commands. France leads". Your words. Not mine.

chris365: i can understand that your troops are new to the whole enforcement business. that's why your blood is rushing.

Nigerian snipers have seen action looooooonnng before your troops can dream of. so nothing new

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2012/04/nigerian-army-sniper1.jpg[/img]
notice the sniper being celebrated by those he has saved in Liberia?

and the one below ready for action in siera leone.

like i said.. nothing new

main issue is you are not in command of your men. you are being commanded by a lesser military power.. no capability to lead

Yes, a sniper being celebrated by African children. Children also celebrate the Telly Tubbies.

You have admitted that France took the leadership role even though you were in command, haven't you? Your commanders are stooges then.

Which also kills your whole argument because you've confirmed that it is possible to take the leadership role even though you aren't in command. In which case it is immaterial who the commander is. Not so?

You made noise about nothing and tied yourself up in knots.

Long rope to monkey. Monkey hangs himself.

Bozo

chris365:

see desperation o. france played a lead role in Mali conflict now means france commanded Nigeria and african contingent?

i love your exposure so ignorant and dull

keep putting my foot in your mouth.. i love the picture

More foot-in-mouth.

As per your latest argument, "notwithstanding Naai-gerian command, France still took the leadership role."

Your words. Not mine.

Therefore, in your words, the Naai-gerian command is useless. You've practically admitted that Naai-gerian commanders are stooges. They command, but someone else leads.

Thank you for this second insult of Naai-geria.

No need to say anything further. You'll never be smarter than a South African. Accept it. Be happy.

chris365: and you didn't get the fact? how is my response derailing? tell me how it's an insult when you just confirmed it.

Yes, we got the facts, alright.

And we thanked you for the facts, which you volunteered.

chris365:

yeah, you ran away from a 20000 seleka rebel group to join forces to fight a 1000-1500 M23 rebel group. how is that tough?

You ran away from Mali, so you cannot talk. You ran away to join a home mission where you are bliksemmed by Boko Haram.

And Naai-gerian snipers aren't in record books, are they?

Who talks about them?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PuxJIdPbfY

chris365: i'll like you to quote where i said France led Nigeria in Mali. quote and not blab please.

Oh, you'd like that, won't you?


Your words:

" although France played the lead role, i posted a link where a senior Malian officer said Nigeria was involved...".

You've also confirmed that your "talk has always been about leadership"


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Lead role? Leading? Hellooooooo

You started an argument and you killed the argument.

Foot-in-mouth disease.

Wiki updated.

Naai-gerians are free to go in and change the entry. The wiki community will take their arguments into account.

chris365: o it's still very much alive. France never commanded Nigeria and AFISMA

Yes, but they led in Mali. They led Naai-geria, as per your admission.

And you are arguing that we are: "led by Tanzania".

Therefore, if you allege that we are led by Tanzania; and you admit that France led in Mali, you have no argument.

It is dead.

You can claim no victories in Mali, based on your own argument.

No amount of banana throwing will save you.

Swanky, did you see that wiki has been updated to include our long-range sniper kill?

Look at the video of Greeff discussing it here:

http://www.enca.com/south-africa/give-un-rooivalk-helicopters-greeff

chris365: 20 what? dude, wake up and be real. although i don't wish for the mission to fail(which it will for political reasons), it will still remain in history that SANDF was led to victory by a Tanzanian general and his troops.

Yes, and seeing as you admitted that France led in Mali, you have been led to "abandonment" by France.

Not victory, even.



Your argument is dead.

swanky@vodamail:
why don't we be patient wait and see but earlier today I heard the M23 has called a unilateral seize fire just five days into the offensive after all is not easy to fight a well trained opponent and to rub pepper to injury to loose six of your commanders in a space of 20 mins

Yup, and the schadenfreude nation of Naai-ralanders has deal with some disappointment at the elusive M23 victory.

SANDF. You beauties!

chris365: there's no need to bark. well, it's your usual way of showing frustration.

my talk has alway been about leadership and it will never change. i believe you know you commands your troops but are too ashamed to say it.

who commands your troops? who led them to battle? simple question

Yes, and you killed your own jungle talk.

Your words:

" although France played the lead role, i posted a link where a senior Malian officer said Nigeria was involved...".


So, it is irrelevant who commands our troops. You brought it up and you smacked it down

We aren't interested in an argument that you started and then went on to kill.

Until you admit that the red is proof of what's in the picture below, we are not even bothered.

swanky@vodamail:
So Nigeria cannot claim the Mali mission thank you for insulting your fellow country man trueth has final come out

There you go, Swanky.

The short-brain ape fumbled.

chris365: just answer the damn question boy.. who is in command of SANDF in FIB?

I'm not interested in answering the question. The "leadership" argument is yours. Not mine. You killed it and monkeyed up.

My argument is straightforward; and it's right here, below. In the link.

Don't punish me for the shortness of your brain.

You decided to talk about leadership and command; and then you went on to voluntarily admit that France played the leadership role in Mali . Why should other people be bothered, seeing as you decided to hurt yourself?

You are a bozo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PuxJIdPbfY

chris365: your ignorance, not mine. history already has it and has proved you ignorant.

The first commander of AFISMA is Nigerian Major General Abdulkadir Shehu.[5]
Meanwhile, the heads of state and government of ECOWAS have endorsed Major General Shehu of Nigeria as Force Commander and Brigadier General Yaye Garba of Niger as Deputy Force Commander
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-led_International_Support_Mission_to_Mali

you are free to think as you wish

now answer who is leading and commanding SANDF in DRC?

Your words:

" although France played the lead role, i posted a link where a senior Malian officer said Nigeria was involved...".

Post a million links. It's all futile.

You monkeyed up.

No need to even worry further. You killed your own argument.

chris365: i can see your ignorance is so spanned to limitless level.. although it's not bad to educate you a little.. it's the little i can do

their were two separate forces in Mali before UN stepped in. Nigerian-led ECOWAS force(AFISMA) and French forces
all had different AOR. do your research so as not to further deprive your brain of proper information.

Nigeria will lead the West African force, with Chad, Benin, Ghana, Niger, Senegal, Burkina Faso and Togo also sending soldiers.

this is the main point of the argument.

what is south africa leading in DRC? nada.. no capability to lead a mission... SANDF exist's only to support

Your words will haunt you until you admit that you are a monkey.

"although France played the lead role, i posted a link where a senior Malian officer said Nigeria was involved...".

These are your words. Not mine.

No need to even worry about your chihuahua barks. You stated what the true position is, voluntarily.

Foot-in-mouth. You've made my life in the office easy. Smartness and you - North and South.

chris365: dude get your head straightened out. am not in the mood for name calling(main reason i stopped responding to your posts). too much of it kills your cognitive reasoning skills... like you just showed. try do research on it.

you just proved to be less smarter and more ignorant by saying Jean Bosco led AFISMA. when did UN take over the mission? was it during or after the fighting took place?

AFISMA was never a UN mission and it was led by Nigeria. it's a fact that's already in history.

the intervention brigade is not a south african mission and will never be in history as a South african led mission.

The first commander of AFISMA is Nigerian Major General Abdulkadir Shehu.
Meanwhile, the heads of state and government of ECOWAS have endorsed Major General Shehu of Nigeria as Force Commander and Brigadier General Yaye Garba of Niger as Deputy Force Commander
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-led_International_Support_Mission_to_Mali

The United Kingdom (UK) has pledged to support the Nigerian-led ECOWAS war efforts in Northern Mali through the provision of intelligence, trainings and logistic support to the Nigeria troops.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/mali-british-defence-chief-visits-nigeria-pledges-support/138287

[b]Will Nigeria-Led ECOWAS be a Footnote to the French in Mali?[/b]
http://allafrica.com/stories/201305071215.html

now, show me where it say's the DRC intervention is south african led? oh, i forgot.. you are only contributing to a UN led mission and commanded by a Tanzanian. since SANDF lacks the capabilities to lead.

Your words:

"although France played the lead role, i posted a link where a senior Malian officer said Nigeria was involved..."

No need for any more jungle noises from you. No need to even read your rubbish.

Short brain has admitted the truth. No need to even worry further about the subject.

You'll never be smart enough. Accept that and be happy. You've wiped out the whole Naai-gerian argument in less than a page.

chris365: good to see you've toned the insults (i was tired of doing such)

1) Mali mission was not a UN mission but a west african mission Led by Nigeria. (AFISMA)

2) although France played the lead role, i posted a link where a senior Malian officer said Nigeria was involved in the offensive from day one(not UN supported)

3) we claim victory in Mali cos Nigeria without UN support fought and lead west africa(a whole region) in Mali. politically and militarily(AFISMA)

SANDF is only playing support role in DRC. cos every independent source calls it a UN mission Led mission. Not south african.

Monkey sounds.

I didn't know that Major-General Jean Bosco Kazura of Rwanda was Naai-gerian?



Once again: There's no brain as short as the Naai-gerian brain.

Self-defeatist arguments. You'll never be smarter than a South African.

And I'm glad you admit that:

"although France played the lead role, i posted a link where a senior Malian officer said Nigeria was involved..."


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Thank you. No need to say anything further. We agree that the Mali mission was not Naai-gerian led. Your words. Not mine, apeman. Your firing salvos on South Africa has backfired. Short brain.

saengine: https://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/vor033/SANDF/9314134462_f362df317f_b_zpscebab97a.jpg

https://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/vor033/SANDF/9311350097_c26a80b96e_b_zps14b45dba.jpg

https://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/vor033/SANDF/9314136394_fecd12c7e5_b_zps021ca3d0.jpg

Lovely pictures, sangine. Post some more. Was looking at them on the phone earlier. They are stunning on the computer screen.

There's no brain as short as the Naai-gerian brain. Look at the delf-defeatist arguments.

chris365: you south africans can squeal all you want, fact still remains that this is not a south african led mission.

if this mission is successful (not that it will), who'll claim the victory? UN, Tanzania or south africa?

i need answers not insults please.

Is this your way of admitting that Naai-geria has no successes in Mali, because that mission was not a Naai-gerian led mission?

Ok, then. Loud and clear.

We are pleased to hear that Naai-geria finally admits that it has no victories in Mali.

Thank you for insulting Naai-geria. No need to say anything further.

swanky@vodamail:
Thanks Crag you hit uder the belt its a knock out

Thanks mate.

saengine: Biggest load of bull ever. Show us one sources which talks about U.N Intervention Brigade fighting in DRC that mentions Tanzania and nothing about SA. What a joke.

It's jealousy and envy. Of course he'll post nothing.

Even his own Naai-gerian sources run the story.

http://nigerianbulletin.com/threads/south-african-snipers-kill-6-m23-rebels.2499/#.UiCc-aa9LCQ

"African News South African Snipers Kill 6 M23 Rebels"

Look at what this Naai-gerian says:

"Jees. Those guys must be tough as nails"

Henry120: You're an id*iot. I did not say the photos aren't nice you fool. I asked him to post the photos in an alternative thread, which isn't prone to derailment like this one. Can't you think with your pig brian?

You are worse than an idïot. Who said you said the photos aren't nice?

I said we like the photos. They will stay on this thread. You should have complained on page 4. Or when photos of Seleka were posted. There is no derailment in pictures; or do you only enjoy pictures that paint a "bad picture"?

Leave the thread if you're perturbed. The door is wide open.

Henry120: Ok, give a non-south african source. I don't see how asking for a non-south african source is tantamount to jealousy. Or is that how jealousy is rated in south africa?

Answer the question:

What's not independent about the one posted? Explain.

And the explain to me why Naai-gerians have posted South African sources before.

Is it only bad news that qualifies to be posted from South African sources?

Defence web and news 24 have been quoted by many Naai-gerians.

Explain why, please. I could easily post another source, but I'm tired of the stûpidity of Naai-gerians. Maybe it's because your country ill treats it's journalists? Now you think that other countries tell journalists what to say?

South Africa has an independent anti-government media.

You'll easily eat your other source, but explain your stüpidity please.

Henry120: Give us an independent source, and not your south african news channel. All independent sources only make mention of Tanzanian troops, none for south africa.

Give an independent source.

What's not independent about the one posted? Explain.

And the explain to me why Naai-gerians have posted South African sources before.

Is it only bad news that qualifies to be posted from South African sources?

Defence web and news 24 have been quoted by many Naai-gerians.

Explain why, please. I could easily post another source, but I'm tired of the stûpidity of Naai-gerians. Maybe it's because your country ill treats it's journalists? Now you think that other countries tell journalists what to say?

South Africa has an independent anti-government media.

You'll easily get your other source. They are available and I have them. But explain your stüpidity please.

Henry120: @Saengine, no point posting the images on this thread. It defeats the purpose of posting the images in the first place( the purpose been, to educate people.) Very soon this thread would get derailed again, with insults from @craigb and co and counter insults from the nigerian side.

Post the images in this thread instead. It makes sense to paste in the link.
www.nairaland.com/1386870/african-militaries-security-services-strictly

Leave craigB's name out of your diseased lips if you have nothing to say. You should've screamed "the point is to educate people" when this thread became a focus-on-south Africa thread many many moons ago. And we like the pictures. It's not our fault that you have nothing but rust-bucket ships to post.

You've never stopped your Mr Seleka from posting pictures. Leave saengine alone or leave the thread.

saengine: Ah shame. Go cry me a river. "You do know....blah blah blah".

Congolese, South Africans, Tanzanians are all on the frontline fighting. It just hurts you to admit it.
Post an article or link showing that Tanzanians are "leading the assault". Just one link.
You think because the commander is Tanzanian it means all assaults must be lead by Tanzanians? Get out of hear with your jealous stupidity. There are independent South African bases around the hills of Goma, with soldiers from those units engaging in combat. U.N FIB is in this fight together, the only member that hasn't contributed at all is Malawi.

They think we're like them, who sulked in Mali because they were not given command.

Naai-gerians always want to be the big oga. That's why they can't work together even in Naai-geria. Everyone wants to be an oga and no one wants to work. The state of the country of Naai-geria says it all.

Too many chiefs and no Indians.

They've gone from big oga to big ogre.

chris365: i guess we have UN and the Tanzanians to thank for leading such offensive in time.

Yes - so much so, this story came out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PuxJIdPbfY

Msauza: S.tupid, I meant that even if NNS Thunder is fortified to carry more weight twice to that of helicopter, that does not mean that it was designed to carry Gunships because of its confined space. Unless if you are not well upstairs you can take that risk. Monkey!!

In any case, what it was designed for is irrelevant. The grandmother vessel needs to be "shipped" to the nearest museum. Mr Seleka should be ashamed for even having mentioned his decommissioned vessel here. He should've kept it to himself and spoke about other things.

Henry120: You do know the tanzanians and not the south african are leading the assault effort? South africa should ordinarily not be in congo as the tanzanians are doing all the work with the congolese.

Mohahahaha! The green monster has you by the balls.

This look like lots of South African work to me!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PuxJIdPbfY