I just decided to whyne him up a lil tonight - i stopped taking him seriously long ago.
He's always tying himself up in tortuous knots of logic and keeps contradicting himself.
I gave up on Dayo the day he posted a newspaper rating to support the Boateng rubbish he's been on about for a while now.
When the same rating ranked yaya toure (the "epitome of mediocrity in the useless EPL" ) over all other midfielders in the bundesliga, the rating instantly became a "popularity contest".
I actually think he is obsessed with anything British.
raumdeuter: I am sure any footballer would take the OFFICIAL world cup trophy over any of those official frivolities
By virtue of these assertions, I reminded you about Valdes' 3 UCL medals, only for you to change to "top-performance"..
I then reminded you of Gerrard beasting a major final and winning the official MOTM award but ofcourse you flip-flopped again...
raumdeuter: [s]What was his contribution to the 3 CL wins? wasnt he just a mascot like Rio Ferdinand was? Thats still better than what Terry contributes in the finals because that one and finals na word and opposite[/s]
There you go again - back to the issue of "contribution"...
Steven Gerrard - Official MOTM winner in a major final.
Show us a German Midfielder in the last 20 years wey don "contribute" that kind contribution in a major final...
raumdeuter: Was valdes one of the top 3 performers for his team in any of those finals
No be you dey do "Operation-show-me-your-trophy"??
Gerard was a top performer at the UCL final, so what exactly is your point??
raumdeuter: The purpose of football is to win a trophy for your team not individual achievement. Schweinsteiger achieved that at the biggest stage of the Sport. gerrard nko? voicemail
Valdes won the UCL 3 times..
By your Logic, he should be celebrated at the next UEFA awards.
raumdeuter: Your people brought the ranking argument, i didnt thats why I told you to focus.
Why should I focus on an argument that suggests Valdes is arguably the greatest Goalkeeper in the History of the UCL (by virtue of his 3 medals in that competition? )
raumdeuter: Stay focused and pay attention. My first post on DDG vs Neuer was this
I did not bring in ranking and award until you guys brought it up. FOCUS
..and you supported your arguments with the rankings, didnt you??
raumdeuter: Schweinsteiger has done the same at the BIGGEST STAGE of world football. Beat that!!!
Dadehmola: Gerard was a creative and versatile box-to-box Midfielder who seamlessly fitted into some other positions when circumstances demanded. He was the official MOTM in a UCL final - stop boring us with irrelevant Epistles oga.He has "beasted" at the biggest stage of European club football.
Pay attention to the emboldened, would you??
raumdeuter: [s]In the past 20yrs German midfielders have won the world cup, won the Euro cup Won the CL. I am sure English midfielders wish they can say the same[/s]
Dadehmola: He was the official MOTM in a UCL final - stop boring us with irrelevant Epistles oga.He has "beasted" at the biggest stage of European club football. If any German midfielder has done that in the last 20 years, kindly educate us.
Oya Mention Goetze na...
raumdeuter: [s]Do you want me to quote what people have said about Schweinsteiger? People can say anything. What doesnt lie is the trophies you win and your performance on the field Show us Gerrards world cup[/s]
show us a German Midfielder (in the last 20years) beasting a major final the way Gerrard did in 2005.
if Coogar and Ibime's posts constitute the verses in your soccer bible, too bad!!
dont lemme have to do this again...
Ancellotti: Steven Gerrard is undoubtedly one of the best midfield players in the world," said Ancelotti. "Of course any top club would want him in their side.
Mourihno: He (Gerrard) is a historical player for Liverpool, a historical player for the Premier League and an opponent I have always admired and respected.We did everything to try (to sign him) and it was almost there. I was dreaming of (Claude) Makelele, Gerrard and (Frank) Lampard in midfield.
Pele: To me he is one of the super best midfielders in the world. He is an excellent player.
Maldini: “I think Steven has been and is an absolutely complete player, because he had personality, technique, he could set the play and also defend, and he could score goals – penalty-kicks, free-kicks. So really a modern, complete player.”
Zidane (2009): Is he the best in the world? He might not get the attention of Messi and Ronaldo but yes, I think he just might be.“There was a point when Gerrard was the best midfield player in the world. It is unusual to get complete midfield players who can do everything, but that is what he was.”
Pirlo: “While at Milan he (Ancelotti) came to me and said “I want to sign Steven Gerrard to play next to you in midfield – what do you think?” Without any hesitation I told him “do it – go and sign him”. At this stage he was probably the most complete midfield player in Europe, of course I wanted to partner him.
raumdeuter: Thats why people need to watch the game, Hint they dont show football on wiki. Whats the purpose of watching football, Just go to wiki and copy whatever is written there
These popularity awards dont tell how mediocre gerrard is. I am sure I have written extensively about Gerrard and his average football IQ on this forum
The same awards you used to rate Neuer Over DDG a few hours ago?? And you want to be taken seriously on this forum??
Since your writtens contradict the basic metrics by which worldclass players are rated, you can shove them up your....
raumdeuter: 1. What is Gerrards best football position?
Gerard was a creative and versatile box-to-box Midfielder who seamlessly fitted into some other positions when circumstances demanded.
raumdeuter: [s]Euro 2004. Gerrard passes to henry which led to a Penalty against his team Few months later Gerrard made the same type of pass to henry vs Arsenal and lost his team the game EPL 2010, Gerrard gave a pass to Drogba which lost the game and won Chelsea the league
I can name 5 key errors Gerrard made in top games [/s]
He was the official MOTM in a UCL final - stop boring us with irrelevant Epistles oga.
He has "beasted" at the biggest stage of European club football.
If any German midfielder has done that in the last 20 years, kindly educate us.
raumdeuter: If you watch football for those Roy of the Rover highlight moment then Gerrard is your man
I guess the managers,fellow players, journalists and UEFA/FIFA analysts who voted for him on numerous occassions watched highlights too.
raumdeuter: Gerrard is actually an average footballer. Whose career focuses on some highlight moment. he lacked positional discipline has poor control but he has a lot of energy and spirit
peak Schweinsteiger >>> Peak Gerrard. FACT
World cup Final Schweinsteiger >>> Anything any of Gerrard countryman has done in 50yrs FACT
This your septic-TANK argument is making you spew so much nonsense, Egbon....
Ballon d'Or Bronze Award: 2005 UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 2012 UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007 FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009 ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09 UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2005 (This was emboldened for you, mr "beast- final" )
How can an average player achieve the aforementioned honours??
Even if you go dey downgrade English players, dey reason am properly oga.
raumdeuter: Every English player has to be doubted since the press told us the set from2002 to 2010 were filled with stars yet we dont see them delivering anything for a whole decade.
If one didnt watch you would think Cole was better than Lahm, Gerrard was better than Schweinsteiger, Rooney was better than Muller Terry was better than Boateng and Rio was better than Efe Sodje.
Quit the sarcasm and tell us how Schweinsteiger was better than Gerrard.
Kagawa10: The thing is LVG never spent 300 mil to begin with. He wasn't the one that brought the likes of Herrera and Shaw into the team and I'm sure Mourinho wouldn't have even bothered with a player he didn't sign in the first place but Lvg chose to give all the player the chance before deciding if they are not good enough!
Van Gaal came all out to approve the purchase of Herrera and Shaw - he granted an interview to that effect. Stop making it seem as if those players were already signed before his arrival or he was under any obligation to accept them.
I am not saying they are bad signings but biko, your Dutch god approved those signings and should take full responsibility for the outcome.
N.B - last time I checked, it wasn't sir Bobby Charlton who approved Falcao's loan deal (at such a ridiculous wage bill)
sinizia: So you want Gaal to continue even though it'd cost us?
Haba!
Where did I suggest such??
Lemme even say something sef - If Moyes is the only option available as we speak, (God forbid), I wouldn't mind him replacing LVG!
My position on this issue is clear - our standards have fallen so badly, we actually wouldn't mind replacing our useless manager with someone who was recently kicked out at Chelsea for battling relegation.
sinizia: But no top club is experiencing crisis like Utd. PSG are okay. Bayern are okay. Barca are doing great. Juve too. Madrid reached out but he turned them down. So as it stands, only Utd is worthy team that Mourinho can go to. That's why it seems like Mourinho ain't getting offers from many clubs.
That's exactly my point...
We were doing well under Fergie when he decided to step down - there was no way we woulda replaced him with a recent relegation battler, no matter how impressive the later's CV is..
Mou's impressive CV and success records take precedence over Chelsea's horrible relegation form under him because of the urgent need for us to replace a Manager that is arguably worse than the clueless and pathetic Moyes! !
We are actually saying the same thing albeit in different ways..
sinizia: Ancelotti was sacked twice too but Bayern got him. His CV is not a match against Mourinho's. And you keep talking about Zidane. Didn't you read the news that Madrid reached out to Mourinho first but coz of the bad blood between them, he refused.
Dayo, the MAIN problem that Mourinho is facing is his ATTITUDE not coaching ability. Mourinho fights with everybody wherever he goes and clubs don't want that. This is just the main truth.
When he was one of the most sought after coaches in the world, he was still known to be a trouble maker.
sinizia: Yes, we would. C'mon, It's Moaninghoe we're talking about here not some couch potato of a coach. Let's not try to diminish his abilities and records coz of one terrible season with Shekpe. MaureenHoe's CV is as good as it gets. Only coach presently that's a match for him is Guardiola.
Then why was he sacked a few months ago?? Why didn't his good records and impressive CV save him??
High profile managers with impressive CVs get to manage at top clubs even when they "fail" at their immediate past clubs - reputation plays an important role no doubt but I dont think battling relegation at a top club for half a season exactly fits into the permissible level of "Failure" here...
Even if Mou was the most humble manager in the Universe, I doubt if any top club woulda chosen him to replace Fergie under the circumstances I painted earlier.
If fergie was still in charge and we were still winning trophies and all... only for him to announce his retirement, Do you think we woulld be looking to replace him with a coach who was recently sacked for battling relegation at a top club..all in the name of past records?
Under normal circumstances, little importance should be attached to friendly matches..
However, the crux of the matter is that, assuming England lost that match scandalously, Ramuzaki would have posted a lengthy epistle on how useless the English team is.