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Jenwitemi: Well haven't you just imagined that which you say is unimaginable? You just imagined the unimaginable as a HE, a masculine, male or a MAN.

God is unimaginable in the sense He is neither He or She. Just for our understanding purpose God is treated as He. God is unimaginble it means that GOD is not like any created item. We say table, tree etc which are created items and possesses spatial coordinates and can be defined. God is not a created item. He cannot be defined.

The unimaginable God is beyond the four-dimensional model of space and time. You can imagine the dissolution of matter converting into energy filling the space. Subsequently you can imagine the disappearance of energy in the space and the result is final vacuum. But, even if you try for your lifetime, you can never imagine the disappearance of vacuum.

God being the generator of space is beyond space and therefore, can never be imagined. If you have to imagine God, the pre-requisite is the imagination of disappearance of space or vacuum. Of course space is a form of very fine energy and in this context the word energy used by Me can be taken as crude form of energy. The only knowledge about God is that He is beyond the knowledge (Yasyaamatam… Veda).

But such unimaginable GOd comes to this world in human form that time we can see Him by seeing such God in human form (Son of God) of our time.

obadiah777: Dattaswami are you Indian ?

Yes, what is there in the nationality, i believe in universality of spiritual knowledge, the essence of spiritual knowledge is applicable any part of the world to any community and religion.

The best worship of God is not through flowers etc.

The best worship of God is not through flowers etc. You remember constantly God’s help in the past incidents of your life and feel grateful with tears in eyes. Try to express gratefulness to the past help and you will be helped in the present and future without asking for it.

If you cannot recognize the contemporary human incarnation and if you cannot sacrifice in any way in His mission, at least, remember the previous help and become grateful to the invisible God without asking anything at least in that time. God will be certainly pleased with you and you will be helped by Him in your life. Regarding the case of devotees, who serve the God in present human form without aspiring anything in return, they will receive the eternal love from God. The fruit of His eternal love is unimaginable!

People often say that Service to man is Service to God. This is a very dangerous statement if it is not properly understood. Service does not mean simply giving food, clothes, medicines etc., to suffering poor and needy people. That poor person is suffering due to the punishment given by God due to his bad deeds. You have not seen his past deeds but you are showing sympathy on him at present. Your help is only temporary. Make him a devotee by imparting knowledge. Then the Lord will help him and that help is permanent. So the word “service” should not be limited to donating food etc., In such case after receiving your help he may do sins which you have to share.

So convert him into a devotee by donating knowledge so that he becomes a devotee, to get personal help from the Lord and also helps others. Since this is the work of the God, such service of yours’ becomes God’s service. Donate knowledge and devotion, even for the wealthy people. Poor did not mean lack of money only. Poor means lack of knowledge and devotion also. Actually the original sense of this statement is different. When the Lord comes in the human form, he appears as a man. You have to detect him by his inherent quality that is blissful knowledge. When you serve such a man your service becomes God’s service because that man is God. When the God is born as a man called as Krishna, some people think that Krishna is a man and some others think that Krishna is a God. So, there is a controversy. God pervaded that man as the current pervades the metallic wire. So both God and man co-exist.

Sankaracharya discussed that particular context only and concluded that though two are present, both become one and the same only. Though wire and current are present, the wire is the current because the wire gives a shock wherever it is touched. Similarly, when God pervades the human body, that human body is the God. So, touching Krishna is touching God. But people extrapolated this concept to every man and said, “Every man is God”.


The disciples of Sankaracharya also thought like this. When Sankara swallowed the molten lead and asked his disciples to swallow the same disciples realized Sankara proved that he alone is God and not his disciples. If every man is already God what is the use of all this ‘Sadhana’? Who is to get salvation? If you are already God, do you mean that God gets salvation? If there is no salvation, why all this sadhana, (effort)? Why Prahlada did not accept his father as God? Narasimha killed Hiranya Kashipu. Both of them are Gods. Then God killed God, which means God committed suicide!

The ultimate God, Datta appears as the pious scholar with all good qualities. Sometimes, he appears as a person drinking the wine and at times with a prostitute. The reason for such different and opposite qualities is that He is indicating that any person with good or bad qualities can reach him. The three faces of ‘Brahma’ ‘Vishnu’ and ‘Shiva’ indicate ‘Satva’ ‘Rajas’ and ‘Tamas’ qualities. This means that God is associated with all the qualities, and he is called as ‘Saguna Brahma’. The word ‘Saguna’ means all the qualities. Since Rajas and Tamas represent bad qualities, two-thirds are only bad qualities. It means that people with bad qualities are more in number. The fans of Vishnu think that Vishnu is good because He is associated with Satvam, Rajas is worse and Tamas is the worst. So, they say that Vishnu is the best and highest. They think that Brahma is lower and Shiva is worst. These three forms are only the three dresses of the same ‘Lord Datta’. The God is the same and one, untouched by these three qualities. Gita says the same. Veda says that Vishnu is Brahma and also Shiva. These three qualities are the three coloured clothes of the same Lord. The colour of the cloth is not the colour of the person. A person is not touched by the colour of the cloth and the colour of the person is not affected. Satvam is white Rajas is red and Tamas is black. So the colour of Vishnu should be white and colour of Shiva must be black. But the colours are interchanged. Vishnu is black and Shiva is white. This means Vishnu and Shiva have exchanged their qualities. Shiva is sitting in meditation with a good quality. Vishnu is dancing with the Gopikas and it is a bad quality. Now tell me who is greater? So, Datta is the single God present in all these three divine forms. He is not touched by any quality. Therefore, He is called as ‘Nirguna Brahma’. The colourless person is looking red, white and black due to those colours of his clothes. This form of Datta indicates that Bhakthi is untouched by good or bad qualities. Pure water is present in three glass cups with three different colours. The water is not coloured but appears to have a colour. Similarly the Bhakthi i.e., love on God appears to have the colour of the quality. But it is always pure and colourless. So the person whether good or bad can reach the God through any path. When Bhakthi is present in the person and also present in the path, it is the driving force beyond good and bad qualities. Shiva with Tamas as a bad God invites the bad people in a bad path. Vishnu with Satva as good God invites all good people through good path. But remember one thing, Vishnu and Shiva are one and the same.

A good person and a bad person reach the same God because their Bhakti is one and the same. The three faces denote creation, administration and destruction of this universe by one and the same God. Veda says that these are the three activities done by one and the same God called ‘Parabrahman’. So Datta is Parabrahman as per the Vedas. We have three Gurus Sankara, Ramanuja and Madhva. They are the incarnations of Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma. That means Datta came down as these three Gurus. So Datta indicates that He is the single Parabrahman present in the three divine forms called Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Datta further indicates that He is the Sadguru present in all the three Gurus.

The voice of Datta is the single theory present in the commentaries of the three Gurus. Datta indicates that any living being is eligible to reach Him and get the salvation irrespective of his/its good and bad qualities. Datta also indicates that whether the path is good or bad, only the Bhakti is given value by Him. The Bhakthi should be real and pure without aspiring anything in return from Datta. A beggar comes to you and praises you a lot. You are asking him to move away. But a guest is given all the comforts with special love. What is the difference between these two? The intention of the beggar is to get food from you but the intention of the guest is to see and talk with you. Since the intention differs the treatment differs. So come to Datta as a guest and not as a beggar. If your intention is only to love Datta without aspiring anything in return, Datta will give everything to you, as you are His guest.

This world of humanity is based on full freedom and absence of any forcible destiny. Here, you are free to do any type of work and no destiny forces you to do any specific work as said in the Gita (Na kartrutvam...). The concept of destiny exists only in the link of the specific work and the specific fruit. You have full freedom to put your finger in fire or water. No destiny forces you to put your finger in fire or water. The destiny lies only in the link between a specific work and corresponding specific fruit. It is destined that the fire burns your finger and the water keeps your finger cool. The destiny is not in the selection of the work.

You have put your finger in the fire due to ignorance or ego. After burning the finger, you may say that you have put the finger in the fire due to the destiny. God has destined the specific system, which links every action with a specific fruit. After putting your finger, God is not ordering the fire to burn it. The subsequent fruit for a specific work is already destined. God or the destiny does not interfere with the choice of your selection of a specific work. Even the so called past destiny does not interfere with your works. The composition of your psychology is fixed based on your past deeds. Thus, work is responsible for the will and the will is the generator of the work. Since the composition of your psychology is already based on your past deeds and is fixed, you can treat that as destiny and in such case, destiny is guiding everything.

The psychology is a specific pattern of ideas generated by the past deeds and it is called as ‘Samskara’. An idea can be changed by knowledge. Samskara is a fixed concept and the right knowledge is a group of right concepts. You have the opportunity of hearing the right knowledge since God comes to this world quite often in human form. You have the freedom to hear such divine knowledge or not to hear. You have also freedom to practice the knowledge or leave it without practice. At every step, the basic freedom is given. This human world is also the right place for testing the devotees and here also, the full freedom is protected. You are totally free to sacrifice anything or not to sacrifice anything even if God desires for it. God does not force you or threaten you or wash your brain in your sacrifice since such sacrifice is not real. God is pleased only with the real sacrifice done by the soul in the atmosphere of total freedom.

In the examination hall, you are totally free to answer the question paper to any extent or even to return the white paper without writing even a word. God preaches the total concept and in the stage of implementation of it, God does not influence your mind in any way. After teaching all the right knowledge through the Gita, Krishna said that the decision to fight or not is totally left to Arjuna (yathechchasi…). The basic reason is that God is not in need of anything from anybody. The sacrifice is not to satisfy God but only to uplift you. The sacrifice proves your real attachment to God and such real attachment is not in the benefit of God but it is only in your benefit. Krishna asked for the special gem from Satrajit, the father of Satyabhama. Krishna is not in need of that gem. He is the creator of that gem. Even without the help of that gem, He can create wealth. He can even stop the power of the gem to create the wealth. Krishna asked the gem from Satrajit because Satrajit cannot maintain it and will fall in trouble.

Only for the welfare of Satrajit, He asked him for that gem. But, Satrajit thought that Krishna asked that gem for His personal benefit and thereby, for His personal satisfaction. Such misunderstanding made Satrajit to refuse the gem.

truthislight: your father/mother gave birth to you in the cage and padlocked it.

The padlock keys were with satan the devil.

Worship and service to Lord should be without any expectation

When you worship the Lord you should not aspire for any fruit in return. Some people sacrifice work and money but they aspire for some fruit in return. Such a service is again a waste. If you do Nishkama Karma Yoga, which is the service to the Lord without expecting anything from the Lord, then alone will the Lord come in human form and suffer for your sins. Then alone can you get rid of your sins. Other than this one path there is no alternative. Either you have to pay or your father (the Lord in human form) has to pay the fine for your sins. If you pester the Lord through the present rituals and methods of worship, the Lord will only make rearrangements to your file of Karma.

He will bring the good results, which you were supposed to enjoy in your next birth, to the present. However this rearrangement will lead to a loss in value as in case of a premature encashment of deposits. You do not know this secret and you think that you have flattered the Lord and got rid of your sins. What you do not know is that your present sins are thrown to next birth with increased interest. Your future life cycle will be full of miseries from birth to death due to such interference. Therefore the Lord is cleverer than you when you adopt the ways of business with Him.

Rizstar: can you explain why you pray b4 eating anyting

You can thank God for providing the food. However you should not ask anything from Him.

Do not ask any thing from God which is either related to present or future. When you ask some thing in present or some thing in the future, it clearly means that you are reminding Him about the corresponding reaction that is to be immediately implemented in the need. This indirectly means that God is not alert as you are. This is insulting God. Due to such sin the requirement is not answered. If you are asking to protect yourself or somebody else, it indirectly means that He is not aware of the things to be done due to the irresponsibility and this also indicates that He is not as kind as yourself.

It means that God has potency to help but not kind enough to render the help. On contrary, it also means that you lack unfortunately the potency. It means if you fortunately have the potency you could have immediately responded and helped. Therefore, when ever you ask for anything it clearly means indirectly that God has some type of defect, which does not exist in your case. When you ask Him to fulfill the desire it looks as if that your desire is constitutionally justified. But God is not positively reacting due to either lack of positive response immediately or due to lack of knowledge of the constitution or due to lack of kindness to help the needy. All these points are very very subtle. But God is the most subtle and therefore, the knowledge of this analysis will certainly restrict you from asking any fulfillment of your desire.

Never bring present and future before God. Confine to the past always before God. Look back at your past life. Hundreds of incidents are there where you were helped by God. Even if you dispose some incidents through the incidental probability of success or through the efficiency of your efforts, certainly there are plenty of instances in which the help from God is clearly evident. At least remember those few incidents and express your gratefulness along praise to God for His kind help that was already done. The word Krutajnata means remembering the past help. Kruta means the past help done. Jna means identifying it by analysis. If you confine to praying the Lord and thanking Him always about the past helps from Him, the Lord will be immensely pleased. Then the present and future are spontaneously taken care of by the God. But do not adopt this technique with a mind that you will be helped by God in the present and in the future by following this procedure!

You should really follow this path and you should really forget the present and the future. When large number of people came to hear the message from Jesus, they were hungry by the noon. This point was brought to the notice of Jesus. He never asked God to provide food for those hungry people who came to hear God’s word. Had He asked for that, He would have insulted God. God knows His responsibility very well towards the devotees who came there to hear about Him. God has the power to fulfill His responsibility even in the last fraction of second. Had Jesus told God to bless the devotees with food, it clearly means that God is not as kind as Jesus. Jesus never asked for any thing. He came to know that there were four breads. He took them and showed to sky. He thanked God for providing those four pieces of bread.

Immediately the present was responded and the four breads became four thousand breads. This application of analysis is limited to Nivrutti only. You should not extend this to Pravrutti. When you are hungry you have to beg the other souls because they are not omniscient to know that you are hungry. Pravrutti and Nivrutti should never be mixed.

Atheists: The christian doctrine of vicarious redemption is evil rubbish.

Meaning of second coming of Jesus

The names like Rama, Krishna, Jesus etc., belong to the external human body, which has taken birth. Such names are generated only after the birth of these human bodies. Therefore, such names are certainly the names of the external human bodies only, which are like the shirts. When the human bodies perish, these names also must perish. But these names exist as eternal names even after the disappearance of these human bodies due to death. The reason is that these names were directed towards the inner Lord even during the time of existence these human bodies.

A person is carrying vegetables for selling. You call him by the name “ Vegetables”. The person is not vegetable and the vegetables are not the person also. But the possessor of the vegetables is called by the name of the possessed material. Similarly, when the name “ Krishna or Jesus” was called, this name was directed towards the internal Lord also. Therefore, even if the human body perished, since the Lord is eternal, Krishna or Jesus is also eternal. When Krishna said that He will come again and again, whenever necessary ( Yada Yada hi….Gita), it means the eternal Lord present in the human body will come again and again through different human forms. Similarly, when it is told that Jesus will come again, it means the Lord present in that human body will come again. Here the names Krishna and Jesus indicate the Lord and not the human body.

When some body says that He will come again after 20 years, it does not mean that he will come in the same shirt. Even in the case of the ordinary human beings the name indicates the inner eternal soul also. When people say that Subba Rao died, it means that the name indicates the external human body. People say that Subba Rao’s last journey is today. It means that the name indicates only the external body, which is going to be cremated in the burial ground on that day. In these sayings the name indicates the external human body. But after one-year people say that today is the yearly ceremony of Subba Rao. When you have stated that Subba Rao finished his last journey one year back, how can you bring Subba Rao again after one year? Here the name indicates the inner soul. Therefore, even in the worldly terminology the name indicates both the external body and inner soul according to the context.

Therefore, when you say that Jesus was crucified and killed, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Jesus will come again on final day of destruction of this world, the name indicates the inner Lord. Thus, the same name indicates the external or internal item according to the context. When you say that Krishna danced in Brundavanam, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Krishna will come again and again whenever necessary, the name indicates the inner Lord. If you realise this discrimination, you have no quarrel with any religion. When you say that Jesus or Krishna will come again, it means that the inner Lord is going to come in different human bodies again. When you are drawing the picture of Jesus or Krishna, the picture represents the external human body only and not the inner Lord. You can never draw the picture of the inner Lord because He is beyond the realm of imagination. You cannot say about the existence of two unimaginable Lords. When the Lord is unimaginable, He can be only one. If you say that there are two entities, it means that both the entities are imaginable. Therefore, you have to accept that there is only one unimaginable Lord or God. The external human bodies are different and cannot be one. When I say that Krishna is Jesus, it means that the Lord in the body of Krishna and in the body of Jesus is one and the same. It does not mean that the two different bodies are one and the same.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony
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Universal Spirituality for World Peace

Atheists: Which sins did he die for me 2000 years ago before l was born ?

How it is possible?

If you say that My sins were already suffered by Jesus, then a question arises. I was born in 1947. In 1947, My gross body was created. According to the theory of Christianity, this is My single human birth. Before 1947, I was not in any other gross body, on this earth. Therefore, before My birth in 1947, I neither did good deeds nor bad deeds ,because for doing any deed, a gross body is required. Since My soul did not have any fruit of good deeds, it could not have been with God. Since, My soul did not have any fruit of bad deeds, it could not have been in hell. So before My birth, My soul was not on earth, not with God and not in hell. Can you tell Me the address of My soul before 1947? Therefore, you must agree that My soul was not created before 1947.

This means that My soul and My gross body were simultaneously created by God in 1947. In such a case, neither My soul nor My gross body existed before 1947. Jesus was crucified about 2000 years ago. At the time of the crucifixion of Jesus neither My soul nor My gross body existed. When the soul and gross body do not exist, there is no existence of any action of the soul through the gross body. When there is no action there is no result of the action, which may be good fruit or sin. Thus, when there is no soul, no gross body, no action and no sin, how come Jesus suffered for My sins before 1947?


Therefore, the interpretation of some conservative Christians that God suffered for your sins already is not correct. In the first page of Holy Bible itself, it is said that Jesus came to save His people. The words “His people” mean deserving devotees present in His time. If this interpretation, which is directly present in the text itself, is accepted, it synchronizes with the exactly similar concept of the scriptures of other religions. For example in Hinduism, Lord Datta came in several human incarnations like Sai Baba who suffered for the sins of His devotees present in His time. I put a simple question to you. Is it better to accept the interpretation of the Bible as given by some conservative human beings or is it better to accept the interpretation of the Bible in synchrony with other divine scriptures? Do you not feel that other divine scriptures are far better than these human beings?

obadiah777: he is I and I am he. reincarnates with the same soul but different sceen name

Holy Jesus suffered for the sins of the real believers of God only

Holy Jesus suffered for the sins of the real believers of God only. One of the basic ideas of the human incarnation is to suffer for the sins of deserving devotees. The human body is selected for incarnation for this very purpose. The human body of the incarnation suffers like any other human body. Then alone is the real transfer of sins fully justified. The incarnation can avoid the pain during suffering devotees’ sins by using the super power of God. But God never deceives justice. Therefore Jesus really suffered all the punishments of deserving devotees as any other human body suffers and fulfilled the justice in the transfer of sins. This is the real reason why God selects a human body and gets identified with it. If it is an inert statue, such transfer of suffering cannot take place.

Although the Son is suffering on the Holy Cross, actually it is the Father who pervaded all over the Son that suffered. This is the essence of saying that Father and Son are one and the same.

The Father does not suffer the sins of wicked people who will not change at all. Those who are the real devotees and those who have served the Lord without aspiring for anything in return are only liberated from their sins. Such devotees never pray to the Lord for liberation from their sins because they never desire that the Lord should suffer for their sins. Therefore, they never agree to the liberation from their sins. If they come to know, they will object to such a transfer of sins because they are the real devotees of God. Hence the Lord suffers for their sins without revealing it to them. If you do not turn to the Lord, you have to carry all your sins with you and go to hell. If you turn towards the Lord, He will liberate you from all your sins provided you change and continue the rest of your life in His divine service.

His work is to bring peace in this world and see that every human being gets salvation. He wants hell to be permanently closed. But you should turn towards God without aspiring for liberation from your sins. You must participate in His service and yet you should be ready to undergo the punishments of your sins as per the rule. You should not ask Him or even desire for such liberation from your sins. Once you desire for such liberation, you are indirectly asking the Lord to suffer for your sins. In such a case, you are not His real devotee. He takes your sins and liberates you only when you serve Him without any aspiration for such liberation.

[quote author=OLAADEGBU][/quote]STATEMENT: - MATHEW 10: 40

Lord Jesus was the human incarnation of the Holy Spirit. The human body of Holy Jesus is like the metallic wire, which was all over, pervaded by the Holy Spirit. Veda says ‘Antarbahischa’ which means that the Holy Spirit pervades all over the body of Human Incarnation. Wherever you touch the wire the electric shock is given. Similarly the entire human body of Holy Jesus is holy. The holiness is the nature of Holy Spirit just like the shock is the property of electricity.

As the electricity cannot be separated from the wire, the Holy Spirit cannot be separated from the Holy Jesus. So here the Holy Spirit is the Holy Jesus. Holy Jesus refers this Holy Spirit as His Father. He tells that He was sent by His father as a messenger. Though He and His father are one and the same, He speaks like this for which there is a practical reason i.e., every human being repels with another human being. A man cannot accept another man as God due to Jealousy and Egoism. Bhagavatgita says, “A man will insult Me when I come here in human form (Avajananti mam….)”. For this purpose Holy Jesus wants Himself to be called only as the messenger of the Holy Spirit by the disciples whenever He is introduced to the public. If He tells the truth the egoistic public will not hear even what He preaches and will reject Him. Therefore He is telling His disciples to introduce Him as a messenger only. Ofcourse, the disciples are really the messengers of Holy Jesus.

Holy Spirit has taken over the human body of Holy Jesus and pervaded all over the body to preach the divine knowledge to this world. The same Holy Spirit is sending the disciples for the propagation of the Divine knowledge. Both the body of Holy Jesus and the disciples are instruments of the Holy Spirit chosen for different purposes. The Holy Spirit is preaching through the body of Holy Jesus and is propagating the divine knowledge through disciples. Therefore if you respect the disciple you are respecting the Holy Spirit indirectly. Though both the instruments exist like this, the Holy Spirit is present in Jesus and is not present in the disciples.

Due to this difference the disciple is an indirect instrument and the direct instrument is Holy Jesus. The disciple propagates the divine knowledge after hearing from the Holy Jesus. Therefore when such disciple is respected, Holy Jesus is respected first and then the Holy Spirit. But among the disciples there may be some person who cannot repeat what Holy Jesus exactly preached. In such a case the Holy Spirit will take over the body of that disciple and preaches (Mathew 10: 20). Such a disciple differs from Holy Jesus because the Holy Spirit resides in that disciple for some time only where as the Holy Spirit resides in Jesus all the time.

Holy Jesus is telling that He is the messenger of the Holy Spirit and He is also telling that the disciple is His messenger. He is giving the same status to Himself and the disciple by telling like this. The reason is that some disciple may become jealous in future if He says that He Himself is the Holy Spirit where as the disciple is His messenger only. The difference in the status may bring jealousy. Therefore He is maintaining the equal status so that no devotee becomes jealous of Jesus in the future. Due to jealousy the disciple may slip from Holy Jesus.

When He says that He is only the messenger, this shows the humble and submissiveness of Holy Jesus. He wants His disciples to be humble and submissive to the Holy Spirit through out their lives. For this purpose He sets Himself as an ideal. The Holy Spirit present in the human body of Holy Jesus is the essence of true and infinite knowledge as Veda says “Satyam Jnanam Anantam Brahma….” Humbleness and submissiveness are the fruits of the Divine Knowledge. Therefore the humbleness and submissiveness are the qualities of the Holy Spirit itself. This means whatever Holy Jesus speaks is the statement of the Holy Spirit only.
At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Universal Spirituality for World Peace

Oneness of God of different religions

Every religion says that its God created the entire earth and entire humanity. But, unfortunately there is only one earth containing this humanity. Due to one earth, there must be one God only and hence all the religions are calling the same God by different names. Since the God is unimaginable and nobody can even imagine Him, all the names are indicating that unseen and unimaginable God only. This unimaginable God is mediated by energy. Such mediated God is also one and the same because energy is also one and the same for all religions. This mediated God is called as Brahman by Hinduism, Jehovah by Christianity and Allah by Islam. The absolute unimaginable God as well as the medium [Energy] are one and the same and hence there is no difference between these three names.

Of course, when the absolute God gets mediated by human bodies, there may be minute difference in the form, culture and language of the external human form as in the case of Krishna of Hinduism, Jesus of Christianity and Mohammad of Islam. Even here the material of the human body is one and the same except slight variation in the external form. From the point of absolute God, here also there is no trace of difference and hence all these three human forms are also one and the same.

This world of humanity is based on full freedom and absence of any forcible destiny. Here, you are free to do any type of work and no destiny forces you to do any specific work as said in the Gita (Na kartrutvam...). The concept of destiny exists only in the link of the specific work and the specific fruit. You have full freedom to put your finger in fire or water. No destiny forces you to put your finger in fire or water. The destiny lies only in the link between a specific work and corresponding specific fruit. It is destined that the fire burns your finger and the water keeps your finger cool. The destiny is not in the selection of the work.

You have put your finger in the fire due to ignorance or ego. After burning the finger, you may say that you have put the finger in the fire due to the destiny. God has destined the specific system, which links every action with a specific fruit. After putting your finger, God is not ordering the fire to burn it. The subsequent fruit for a specific work is already destined. God or the destiny does not interfere with the choice of your selection of a specific work. Even the so called past destiny does not interfere with your works. The composition of your psychology is fixed based on your past deeds. Thus, work is responsible for the will and the will is the generator of the work. Since the composition of your psychology is already based on your past deeds and is fixed, you can treat that as destiny and in such case, destiny is guiding everything.

The psychology is a specific pattern of ideas generated by the past deeds and it is called as ‘Samskara’. An idea can be changed by knowledge. Samskara is a fixed concept and the right knowledge is a group of right concepts. You have the opportunity of hearing the right knowledge since God comes to this world quite often in human form. You have the freedom to hear such divine knowledge or not to hear. You have also freedom to practice the knowledge or leave it without practice. At every step, the basic freedom is given. This human world is also the right place for testing the devotees and here also, the full freedom is protected. You are totally free to sacrifice anything or not to sacrifice anything even if God desires for it. God does not force you or threaten you or wash your brain in your sacrifice since such sacrifice is not real. God is pleased only with the real sacrifice done by the soul in the atmosphere of total freedom.

In the examination hall, you are totally free to answer the question paper to any extent or even to return the white paper without writing even a word. God preaches the total concept and in the stage of implementation of it, God does not influence your mind in any way. After teaching all the right knowledge through the Gita, Krishna said that the decision to fight or not is totally left to Arjuna (yathechchasi…). The basic reason is that God is not in need of anything from anybody. The sacrifice is not to satisfy God but only to uplift you. The sacrifice proves your real attachment to God and such real attachment is not in the benefit of God but it is only in your benefit. Krishna asked for the special gem from Satrajit, the father of Satyabhama. Krishna is not in need of that gem. He is the creator of that gem. Even without the help of that gem, He can create wealth. He can even stop the power of the gem to create the wealth. Krishna asked the gem from Satrajit because Satrajit cannot maintain it and will fall in trouble.

Only for the welfare of Satrajit, He asked him for that gem. But, Satrajit thought that Krishna asked that gem for His personal benefit and thereby, for His personal satisfaction. Such misunderstanding made Satrajit to refuse the gem.

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Awareness did not exist before creation

You can say ‘the awareness of God’ but you cannot say that God is awareness. The reason for this is that the awareness observed in living beings is a form of inert energy working in nervous system. Before the creation, space cannot exist, since space is the first item of creation, which is the first subtle form of inert energy. Therefore, before creation neither materialized nervous system nor inert energy can exist. In such case, the generation of awareness is unimaginable. Even if you assume that the awareness was generated from some unimaginable source, the awareness, which is a work form of inert energy, cannot exist before creation. Since space is the first form of inert energy, in the absence of space, there cannot be existence of inert energy. If the inert energy was absent before creation, how can you say that awareness, which is a form of inert energy existed before the creation? In such case, you have to conclude that both the source of awareness and awareness itself are unimaginable. Instead of two unimaginable items, it is always better to say that one unimaginable item existed. Then, the conclusion is that the unimaginable source (God) existed and His will, which is awareness, must be the first form of inert energy that was created even before the space. But, without space, inert energy can never exist. Since space is needed for the waves to propagate or for the fundamental particles of inert energy, which alone is transformed into awareness or will.

To avoid the two unimaginable items, even if you say that the unimaginable God Himself is the unimaginable will or awareness, then also, your purpose is not served, since the unimaginable awareness cannot be the imaginable awareness that is seen in the living beings. Moreover, when you say that something is unimaginable, how can you say that it is awareness or inert? Hence, there is no other way than to say that one unimaginable item, which cannot be qualified by terms like awareness or inert created the space directly. Therefore, Veda says that the unimaginable God created the space directly (Atmana Aakashah…).

But Veda says that God wished to create the world. Such statement can be taken in view of the general procedure seen in the world, which is adopted for the sake of convenience of understanding by human beings. Veda also says that the unimaginable item (God) created the space or energy directly (Tat tejo asrujata…). Once the space is created, which is the first form of inert energy, the procedure of the creation is a routine process as described by Veda regarding the creation of air etc. after space. In this procedure, the last item that was created was awareness from the food (Annat purushah). You cannot bring this awareness even before food and not to speak of bringing the awareness even before the generation of space.

Now there are two items. One is the unimaginable God and the other is imaginable world which includes awareness as the final product. The generation of the world from God is also unimaginable, since there is no similar example of unimaginable generating imaginable in the world. From space onwards, we have only the imaginable generating another imaginable and any link between two imaginable items is imaginable. Therefore, Veda says that the link between space (Mahat) and God (Purusha) is unimaginable (Avyaktam) as seen in the statement “Mahatah paramavyaktam, avyaktaat purushah paraha”.

teminoni: Find time to read this. And if you'r too busy, you can skip to the last 2 paragraphs bolded. But you'll understand better if you read all of it. Its not much.

People wonder why God is so silent nowadays. People wonder if there is even a God at all. This is what I think:
The Lord created the earth, created it in perfection. The earth was made for man to live in and enjoy. So man was made, and the animals too, and they existed in harmony. Man was given the gift of choice: to make his decisions and choose his path, ...........nstantly tormented in hell, that's why they begged Jesus not to send them back. [/b]

This universe is infinite. I am unable to show the existence of these super worlds to you. I accept my incapability. But you are also incapable to prove directly the non-existence of these super worlds. Have you taken all over the universe and said, " Here ends the universe. Beyond this point there is no universe. This is the compound wall of the space. Your super world does not exist anywhere’’. Therefore, there is equal chance for the existence and non-existence of the super worlds according to the theory of probability.

Now let us analyse of our cases. Both of us are eating to live. The basic needs are satisfied in the cases of both of us. You have spent extra time also in earning more money, which may give you some problems of health like sugar, B.P etc., due to over enjoying. I have not earned more money and I am healthy due to normal food. None of us will carry the money with us after death. The money given to the children may also be lost in several ways. Therefore, I do not find much difference between us, once the basic needs are satisfied. I am poor because I have spent my extra time in the service of God.

Suppose after my death, you are correct and there are no super worlds. In such case what I have lost? There is no loss for me. But after your death, suppose I am correct and there are super worlds. You have lost every thing and God will not save you. Thus, even on accepting your argument, based on the equal probability, it is better to serve the Lord by sacrificing the extra time and energy for the Lord after earning the basic needs. You must read the theory of probability, which is perfectly a scientific theory.

IYA NGBALI: If today the devil decides to change,come to God and ask for forgiveness,would he be forgiven by God and would the World be a better place thereafter?make una no finish me for here,I am just wondering.

Some people ask from where Satan came and from what source he got his power? The answer is that the same producer and director of the movie, who appointed one actor as hero has appointed another as the villain. The villain is also remunerated like the hero.

Sometimes the producer-cum-director can enter the movie in the role of a hero and such a role is called as the human incarnation of the Lord. The villain opposes the hero in the cinema. The hero wins over the villain, giving a good message to the spectators. But remember that the hero, who is the producer, has remunerated the villain and also directed every action of the villain as the director of the whole picture.

diluminati: we cant deny there have been some events we may have termed miracles because they happen out of the ordinary, events we dont understand. Apart from miracles there are also some voodoo and juju events like the infamous odeshi - bulletproof. i'm asking all these miracles, there must be some science behind it, maybe we havent understood it yet or found it out. do you agree?

Miracles prove the unimaginable nature and there by establish the existence of unimaginable God. This is the only basic purpose of miracles. Even demons performed miracles through the power of God. God allowed the power to perform miracles through them also because miracle is the basis to prove the very existence of unimaginable God.

If every thing is explicable and if there is no existence of unimaginable item, it straightly means that the human being alone is God and there is no God other than the human being. This will spoil even Pravrutti, which is based on justice. If God is absent, hell is absent and everybody tries to do injustice secretly and if the law of court is managed through a strong advocate, there is no fear to do any sin. Even the Governments will fail if such atheism comes up. If Nivrutti is destroyed, the slow consequence is destruction of Pravrutti leading to disturbance of justice in society.

Callotti: If you had the faith of a 'mustard' seed, you would have stopped asking these kinds of questions. You have been given a 'blessed assurance' that 'jesus is yours'!


Please, head to the 'have you praised him today section'. . .for 'BELIEVERS' only. . .and stop being a 'DOUBTING THOMAS'!

Thank you!


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I don't understand why Christians keep asking questions ONLY UNBELIEVERS should be asking!

If you are confused. . .YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN.

God has no beginning and no end because God is unimaginable. The beginning and the end must be also unimaginable for an unimaginable item. The beginning and the end of the cosmic energy or space or the creation are also unimaginable. Therefore, the beginning and the end are unimaginable for the unimaginable item like God and also for the imaginable item like space. Therefore, the two points, which are the beginning-less and end-less characteristics cannot help you in understanding the real nature of God. If you start recognizing the God by simply these two points (beginning-less and end-less), you may think that God is an imaginable item like the space or energy or the creation. In fact based on these two characteristics people have imagined God as an imaginable item like space or energy or creation. This concept has misled people to such a low level that people think that God is the very infinite space or infinite energy or infinite creation. Therefore, one should filter the concept of God at this juncture itself. One should think that God has no beginning and no end because the beginning and the end of an unimaginable item are also unimaginable.

Such God desired to create this Universe for entertainment. The very desire itself is the Creation. In view of God this present materialized universe in only an idea or imagination or the very desire itself. Therefore, the desire to create the world is itself the desire and also the created world itself is a desire. Thus the creation, maintenance and dissolution of the imaginary world are also imaginations or desires. A part of this infinite creation is the individual soul. The soul is like a drop of the infinite ocean of imagination or desire of God. Thus, quantitatively the entire ocean of imagination of God is very huge compared to the tiny soul. Remember that both the Universe and the tiny soul are made of the same substance called as imagination or desire. Thus the force of the Universe is far greater than the force of the soul. Due to such huge quantitative difference of the same phase, the Universe, which is far stronger than the soul appears as a materialized entity for the soul. But this infinite ocean of desire, which is the infinite Universe is a tiny drop compared to the infinite force of God. Therefore, again due to the same quantitative difference of force the entire universe is just the very weak imagination from the view of God. Thus imagination and materialization exist simultaneously true from the point of God and soul.

For the sake of entertainment, God desired to create the Universe. This statement is in Veda (Sa dviteeya Maicchat). In this statement there is a very subtle intermediate stage, which is the essence of the desire to create the Universe. The desire to create the world is like the golden ornament but the essence of such desire is like the raw gold in which the ornament is not yet expressed. Such raw essence of the desire is pure awareness. The pure awareness is a special subtle form of energy, which is not qualified by any form. Such pure awareness is called as the spirit, which is not qualified and does not have any attribute. This is called as “Nirguna Brahman”, which means the pure awareness, which has no reference to the creation of the universe. It is a very critical and subtle point to recognize the pure awareness. Veda says that only very very sharp intelligence can grasp that critical state (Drushyate Tvagraya bhuddhya). Sankara, the topmost genius among the spiritual preachers could grasp that state and proposed the concept of Nirguna Brahman or non-qualified pure awareness. Such pure awareness is the first creation of God (Parabrahman). This first creation is almost as critical and unimaginable as the very Parabrahman itself. The only difference is that Parabrahman is absolutely unimaginable for any sharp intelligence, but this pure awareness is imaginable only for a very sharp intelligence. This pure awareness is called as Mula Prakriti or Suddha Sattvam or Mula Avidya or Mula Maya or the Spirit in general. The Parabrahman maintains such spirit and it is only an associated item and is the first created item. The word Mula means the first. This spirit is in the form of knowledge. It is aware of itself, which means that it is knowledge. Knowledge requires both subjective and objective characteristics. It is subject as well as the object. Therefore, it is called as knowledge or Sattvam. This knowledge is the first form of energy.

Energy is always active. Action is the characteristic of Rajas. Such Spirit is unaware of its own creator who is the God. Therefore, it is having ignorance or Tamas. Thus, the Knowledge itself is action and ignorance. According to Gita Knowledge is Sattvam (Sattvaat Sanjayate Jnanam), action is Rajas (Rajah Karmani) and Ignorance is Tamas (Tamastva Jnanajam). Thus these three qualities are always inseparable. The pure knowledge (Suddha Sattvam) itself is pure action (Suddha Rajas), which is the pure ignorance (Suddha Tamas). Thus in the very first instant itself the three qualities are created simultaneously in the purest state. Since all these three co-exist, it is called as equilibrium of the three qualities. When the equilibrium is disturbed various items of awareness result in which the three qualities exist in various proportions. Such disturbance of the equilibrium resulting in various distorted items of the three qualities is the very creation. The various mixtures of these three qualities constitute this diversified universe, which is meant for the play of the God and for His entertainment. When the entertainment is over all the three qualities go into the equilibrium state. Thus the Universe is converted into Mula Prakruti.

Differentiate Satguru & Guru

In the word Satguru (Lord in human form), the prefix ‘Sat’ means truth. A Satguru always preaches the truth. Truth is always harsh and is not liked by several people. Therefore a Satguru will have only very few disciples. A Satguru says that the path with thorns will lead to the Lord. People will not like this. He also says that the path with flowers leads to hell. People will not be happy with this preaching. A Guru preaches which several people like. The Guru says that the nature of the goal will be the nature of the path. Since the Lord is full of bliss the path also must be with flowers giving happiness. Since the hell is giving you lot of pain the path with thorns which also gives lot of pain must lead to the hell. This argument is very attractive.

Several people will like this and will become the followers of Guru. Several people will praise him and give lot of Guru Dakshina because his argument is pleasant. But a Satguru says that the path with thorns alone will lead to the Lord because in this path you have to cut the bonds with your family and with your hard-earned money. Sacrifice gives lot of pain and sacrifice alone will lead to the Lord. The path with flowers strengthens your bonds with your family and money which gives you lot of happiness. Such path leads to the hell.

Several people do not like such argument and so only one or two persons who can realize the truth will become His disciples. A Satguru will never worry about the number of the disciples and about the quantity of Guru Dakshina. Even if a single disciple is available He is happy. Majority always goes to hell. Only one in millions like Sankara, Vivekananda, Meera can reach the Lord. Diamonds are always in minority. Gravel stones are in majority. Therefore a Satguru will be only one in thousands of Gurus and a true disciple will be only one in millions of disciples.

When you are doing prayers you are praising the Lord as a poet praises a king. The foolish king may give some gift to the poet. But the omniscient Lord can never be fooled by such praise. When you sing songs are chant the name of the Lord or express the feelings of devotion by shedding tears or by meditation you are getting the happiness and peace immediately. You have achieved the fruit. The Lord will not give another fruit for these things. When you are pained and loose peace by cutting the family bonds and by sacrificing your work and wealth to the Lord, then only the Lord will give the real gift to you. When you are working in the field for the owner, doing the work pains you. The owner will pay money for your work. Without doing the work, if you are simply chanting the name of the owner or sing songs on the owner, a wise owner will never give any gift.

You have already derived the bliss and peace by eating the sweet in your hand. Why should I pay you when you are eating the sweet? When you sacrifice the sweet to me I shall pay you. A Satguru teaches only the sacrifice which is the path with thorns leading to the Lord. Veda says that sacrifice alone can bring the grace of the Lord (Dhanene Tyagenaike). If you ask the payment by prayers and devotion the Lord will pay you from your pocket only. He will bring the results of good deeds from your future life cycles and present them to you. But when you are sacrificing the sweet to the Lord in spite of your hunger and your heart pain, the Lord rewards you from His pocket. Therefore the true path leading to the Lord can be identified by loss of peace, mental worry, pain etc., The path to the hell is identified by peace, happiness, benefit etc., Satguru leads you to the Lord and Guru leads you to the hell.
At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Jenwitemi: Well since you think God is a HE, you must have seen HIM with your own eyes as being a MALE being to think HIM as a
HE. No?

God is unimaginable, GOd is neitgher He or She. You cannot define Him. He is beyond creation. Any created item in this world can be defined using spatical coordinates. But GOd is not like that God has no spatial coordinates, and no body can define Him but He exists. He comes to this world in Human form by entering a devoted soul called Son of God. By seeing such alive Son of God of your time you have seen the invisible unimaginable GOd in Him. This is the only way to see God. Once you meet the present Son of GOd you have met the very invisible God.

numo86: Hmmmmm$$.......

God cannot be seen with physical eyes....get that....

He is a SPIRIT.....

God is unimaginable and beyond our logic or senses. God cannot be seen. However when He comes in human form you can see Him here in this world. You can touch Him, you can co-live with Him. God comes to this world in human form to preach divine knowledge to uplift the human souls here. He is known as Human incarnation.

There is no possibility of seeing unimaginable absolute God since God created this entire universe, and if you want to see GOd in His original state then the creation has to vanish, in such case along with creation you will also vanish! Therefore you will not be there to see the absolute God. Therefore the people of this world to facilitate the seeing of God and to preach the souls, GOd adopted a methodology in which HE enters into a devoted soul called 'Son of GOd' and comes to this world. It is like current entering a wire. By seeing the charged wire you have seen the invisible current. God is impartial and He comes down in human form in every human generation. You can identify Him from His excellent divine knowledge He preaches. God is here on this earth only, when you identify present human form of GOd you have identified the very Absolute invisible God. This is the only way for human beings to see and please God by serving the present human form of God....

The fruits of your work are in the hands of God

You should work hard and do your duties to the best of your sincerity. You should only detach from the fruits realizing that the fruits are in the hands of God and not in the law of mechanical system of work and fruits. When you are detached from the fruits through this faith, you are getting two advantages. The first advantage is that you are always energetic since your energy is conserved due to absence of excitement and depression. The second advantage is that you will develop devotion to God, which is not linked to any fruit. The life of devotion is this single point only, which is nothing but that you should not link the devotion to any type of fruit. The fruit should be neither of this world nor of the upper world. You should not love God for getting any fruit in this world or in the upper world. The fruit in the upper world is generally the protection from the hell. This fruit of the upper world is generally focused in the old age.

When the aspiration for fruit disappears, the devotion disappears in every human being and you will not find any devotee. As long as the aspiration for fruit exists, the devotion is a dead body only. When the aspiration for fruit disappears and the devotion still exists, such devotion is alive. For such alive devotion only God is captured. This is the only clue for capturing God. This stage should appear at least in the old age, when all the desires of this world almost get fulfilled. But, unfortunately, the desire for protection from the hell appears in the mind in the old age. Therefore, the devotion is always dead till the last breath of the human being. Shankara says that you should be detached from the fruits related to this world and the upper world also (Ihamutraphalaviragah).
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Gita says that God is unimaginable & comes in human form

Veda says that God is the first preacher and He is called as Kashyapa because He is the pashyaka. Since, the meaning of pashyaka is that He who sees the subtle meaning of the scripture (Kashyapah pashyako bhavati). This first preacher preached the spiritual knowledge regarding the information about absolute God called as Brahmajnana to Sun in the beginning as said in Gita (Imam vivasvate). The Sun preached this to his first son, Shanaishchara, who is called as Jnanakaraka or the initiator of knowledge. This knowledge was passed on to his brother called Yama. From Yama the knowledge was achieved by Nachaketa, who brought it to the earth and was propagated to the human beings.

These five preachers are called as the five fires (Panchaagni). The preacher or Guru is compared to the fire since the knowledge itself is the fire that burns the ignorance to ash as said in Gita (Jnanagnih…). The first preacher is Krishna and He is also called as Datta. Datta means, the unimaginable God given to the world in the imaginable medium, which is the human form as said in Gita. Gita says that God is unimaginable (Mamtuvedana…) and that God comes in human form (Manusheemtanu…). Krishna is the human form charged by the unimaginable God. All the human incarnations(Krishna, Jesus, Mohammad, Bhudha, Shri Dattaswam etc) are the human forms charged by unimaginable God.
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Enjoyment does not exist with One Item Only
O Learned and Devoted Servants of God,

The Veda says that one alone cannot enjoy (Ekaki na ramate…). This statement is quite logical also. Enjoyment is a verbal noun, which indicates the verb or work done. Unless there is an interaction between two different items, work can never be done. Enjoyment is work. Therefore, the work or enjoyment cannot exist with the existence of only one item. The eating work cannot take place without the existence of the eater and eatable food. Therefore, the Veda says that in the absence of second item, there cannot be the existence of work (enjoyment) with one item only. Before the creation, God alone existed. He could not enjoy because He was one only. Hence, the second item, the creation, was manifested by Him, so that the enjoyment (work) can take place in the interaction of God and creation.
People say that you can enjoy provided you are established in yourself.

This is absurd because you are always one and the process of enjoyment cannot be generated with one only. If you say that you are in the state of enjoyment by withdrawing yourself from the entire world and confining yourself to yourself only, it is meaningless because it contradicts not only the logic but also the above said Veda. Are you greater than God since you are in the state of enjoyment by establishing yourself in yourself and the mighty God could not do so? The immediate doubt that arises is that the Gita told that the great person is always confined to the self (Ya atmaratirevasyat…). The Gita says that you are enjoying by confining to the self. Therefore, the Gita contradicts the Veda. This contradiction can be resolved by taking the alternative meaning for the word self (Atman). The word self here means the human incarnation in which the unimaginable God exists to uplift the humanity. The word Atman means human body according to Sanskrit dictionary (Amarakosha). Now, this verse in the Gita means that a great person always confines to the human incarnation and gets enjoyment by serving the human incarnation of God. The word Atman or self means human form as well as yourself.

There are two meanings for this word Atman. People confused by not taking the proper meaning of the word Atman in the proper context. Here, the enjoyment becomes meaningful work because there are two items. One item is yourself, the enjoyer (Bhokta) and the other item is the human form of God, the enjoyable (Bhogya). Ramanuja says that God is the enjoyable item for the devotee, the enjoyer. If you take the meaning of Atman as yourself in this context, the process of enjoyment is impossible as per logic and as per the Veda. You have taken the improper meaning in this context and make wrong conclusion contradicting the Veda and logic. If you take the improper meaning in this context and confine yourself to yourself, the enjoyment cannot be generated. It contradicts the practical experience. When the Veda, logic and practical experience contradict, your concept is a forced super imposition of impossible meaning.


Actually, the word Atman is the basic inert energy, which is qualitatively the same as the infinite cosmic energy. The basic inert energy in the form of limited body is called as Atman and the infinite inert cosmic energy is called as Bramhan. The qualitative similarity between Atman and Bramhan is the monism of Shankara. The awareness, which is the work form of inert energy generated from the functioning nervous system, is the Jeeva. In the deep sleep, the Jeeva disappears and Atman alone remains (Sushuptyekasiddhah…). If you confine yourself to Atman only, which is the inert energy, where is the process of enjoyment, which is the characteristic of awareness? The Gita clearly says that Atman is inert energy (Sthanurachaloyam…). In the deep sleep, the awareness disappears, but it remains in the basic form of inert energy. Hence, Atman is permanent in all the three states of awakening, dream and deep sleep. The Gita says that Jeeva or awareness daily borns and daily disappears (Atha chainam…). The awareness disappears as the deep sleep starts and appears as the deep sleep ends. In this way also, you cannot enjoy if you are confined to the basic inert energy or Atman.

The neutrality towards happiness and misery in this world can be the natural consequence of your state of enjoyment in God. Here, you are neutral to the world but it does not mean that you are totally neutral. You are neutral to the world since you are in the state of Divine joy in God. Therefore, the neutrality to the world does not indicate the total neutrality of the self. It is only consequential and partial neutrality to the world due to the state of total enjoyment in God. Here, the neutrality to the world is one side of the coin only. Such neutrality to the world is mentioned as Shanti or Shama by the Gita and such neutrality is the result of the state of Yogarudha, which is the state of reaching the total association with God in human form (Yogarudhasya tasyaiva…).

Without seeing the other side of coin, foolish people confine to one side of coin only and become totally neutral to the world. If you analyze carefully, the total enjoyment in God is also based on the total enjoyment of His creation. You cannot please a poet by becoming neutral to his poem. If you enjoy his poem and remember him by appreciation, the poet is pleased with you to the greatest extent. Similarly, if you enjoy the creation of God, appreciating the creator, God is totally pleased with you. During the enjoyment of the poem, you should enjoy the total poem and should not be neutral or reluctant to a part of the poem. Similarly, you should enjoy the total creation including happiness and misery. If you are neutral or reluctant to the misery, you are partially hurting God. Hence, there is no meaning of neutrality or reluctance to the creation. Atheists also enjoy the creation but do not remember God. Such enjoyment is the worst type of sin and hence, the neutrality or reluctance towards such enjoyment is appreciated.

Q) God is said to be happy continuously without any break (Akhanda ananda swaroopa). But, we are not having the continuous happiness. Why this difference?

Ans) People say that God is bliss or extreme happiness (ananda). This means that God is not the extensive happiness and it means only that God is possessing the extensive happiness. It is the custom to call the possessor of some item by the name of that very item itself. You call the possessor of apples by the apples. You call “Oh Apples! Come here”. Similarly, Veda says that God is the true and infinite knowledge (Satyam Jnanam Anantam Brahma). Here, God is the possessor of the knowledge. It is wrong sense if you take the knowledge itself as God. Alternatively, you can call the God as knowledge in the sense of its personification. It means that the knowledge itself is personified as God. This again is a figure of speech and not the actual sense. It means that the knowledge is not the actual personification, but it is taken as the personification. In this way, you can call God as bliss in the sense of its possessor or its assumed personification. In anyway, you should not treat the bliss itself as God directly.

Now coming to actual subject, God is having the bliss continuously without any break. It means that God is enjoying this world continuously. You are unable to enjoy the same very world in continuous manner. You should not think that God is deriving enjoyment from something continuously, which is beyond this world. There is nothing beyond this creation except God, the creator Himself. God is beyond this imaginable world because God is unimaginable. The real reason for the infinite continuity of this world is that God exists beyond the boundary of this world. Since God is unimaginable, you can never touch God even by imagination. Therefore, the world must continue infinitely as you travel so that you can never touch the unimaginable God. This is the actual concept in the infiniteness of the universe. Scientists could not give the reason for the infiniteness of this universe since they are unable to accept the existence of the unimaginable God beyond this world or space. Hence, for scientists this universe is infinite without any reason. Philosophy, accepting the existence of unimaginable God, who is beyond the space (due to absence of spatial dimensions), is able to give the logical reason for the infinite continuity of the universe in this way.


Now coming to the point, God is enjoying this same very world, which is enjoyed by you. Since God is beyond the world, God can enjoy the world as an external spectator enjoying the cinema. But the human being is involved in this world and cannot be the external spectator. You may say that this difference is reason for the difference in the enjoyment. God is certainly beyond the world, but Veda says the God enters this world. Even in the world, God can maintain His status of being beyond the world. If a drop of oil enters the water in a vessel, the drop maintains its individuality without mixing with water. But, if a particle of sugar enters the water, it dissolves in water. The human being is a part and parcel of the creation. The soul of the human being is part and parcel of the cosmic energy. The external human body is part and parcel of the cosmic matter. But, God is beyond energy and matter. Therefore, God maintains His individuality and the human being is unable to maintain its individuality and dissolves in the world. Therefore, you may say that this is the reason for the difference in the enjoyment. If you analyze carefully, even this point is not valid. The simile here is not correct. The soul in the human being is not dissolving in the cosmic energy and the human body is not merging with the cosmic matter during the lifetime of the human being. This may happen after the death of the human being. The human being is separately maintained in this world and hence, the human being is also like the drop of oil only. Hence, this cannot be attributed to be the reason for the difference in the enjoyment of God and human being. Moreover, God enters this world through a closely devoted human being only, which acts as the medium. God exists in the human being and derives the experience through that human being only and such a specified human being is called as human incarnation of God. The wrong interpretation of this concept is that God exists in all the human beings and every human being is the human incarnation. In such case, what is the necessity of the appearance of Veda, the spiritual knowledge, when all the human beings are God. In such case, there is no necessity of preaching the human being. In such case, the king, one human incarnation, should not punish a sinner, the other human incarnation.

Here, the main point is that God has the same involvement and the same way of enjoyment through the human being possessed by Him in this world as in the case of a human being. This means that the human being possessed by God and the ordinary human being exist in the same world and experience the different scenes in the same way. The human being possessed by God is identified with God and hence, the status of such human being is the status of God. Finally, this means that God and ordinary human being exist and enjoy the same common world in equal way. Both Krishna and Arjuna lived in the same world of scenes of happiness and unhappiness and their process of enjoyment was also the same. Yet, God is continuously enjoying whereas the enjoyment of a human being is frequently disrupted by unhappiness. Everything being the same, how is this difference cropped up?
This creation is made of a lot of different items and feelings. The feelings in different occasions are different due to variation in the proportions of happiness and unhappiness. The two extreme feelings are happiness and unhappiness based on profit and loss, winter and summer, day and night etc. The two extreme items mix in different proportions giving rise to a number of different feelings. What is the necessity of this multi-phased creation? The reason is that if there is only sweet in this world, continuous enjoyment of the sweet bores the human being generating unhappiness. Therefore, if you want to rectify this, the source of enjoyment should be altered.

If there is a hot dish also and if the sweet and hot dishes alter regularly, the process of enjoyment can continue without generating unhappiness. If the item is single, the process of enjoyment cannot be continuous. Mixing the sweet and hot can give rise to various items and in such case, the altering is with many more dishes. Even if the process of enjoyment is one and the same, you will not be bored based on that point. You are bored only when the source of the enjoyment (dish) is one only. God does not mind to provide you sweet dishes only continuously. But in such case, you will develop such unhappiness that you become allergic to sweet and will never enjoy the sweet again. Suppose you are given the sweet dishes only for 24 hours and the life of your happiness is forever 24 hours only and at the end of this, happiness from sweet can never be regenerated. Is this desirable? Will the divine Father wish such situation? Instead of such worst option, it is better to give sweet dishes for half day (12 hours) and give hot dishes for other half day. By this way, every day you are happy for 12 hours and after ten days, the life of your happiness is 120 hours, though not continuous.

In the first way, the life of your happiness is 24 continuous hours only, but the life of unhappiness due to sweet-allergy is 9 days. Which is better between these two ways? The divine Father always prefers the way of maximum benefit to His children. Therefore, God created both sweet and hot dishes in view of the maximum benefits for His issues. But, if you can develop the talent of enjoying the hot dishes also and derive happiness from such hot dishes also, you can be happy continuously in all the 10 days. In such case, the life of your continuous happiness by enjoyment is 240 hours! Therefore, the divine Father did not create only the sweets by which the issues get one day happiness and nine days unhappiness. God created both the sweet dishes and hot dishes in altering way so that atleast, the issues get discontinuous happiness for 120 hours and discontinuous unhappiness for 120 hours. This second way is certainly better than the first way. The third way is the expected divine way of the divine Father, which is continuous enjoyment for all the 10 days by deriving continuous happiness from the process of enjoying the sweet and hot dishes alternatively. This process of deriving continuous happiness through continuous enjoyment will not bore you because the source of happiness is not the single item. The happiness derived from the continuous enjoyment of single item only bores you leading to unhappiness. In the third divine way, the same process of continuous enjoyment of different sources or dishes will not bore you and will not generate unhappiness at all. Now, how to derive happiness from the enjoyment of hot dish also? The answer is very simple. If you are not a child and if you are grownup adult, you will derive the happiness from the enjoyment of hot dishes only. If you are a child, you cannot enjoy the hot dish. Similarly, if your spiritual knowledge attains maturity, you will enjoy the world of different situations continuously and be happy always. If your spiritual knowledge is primitive like the ignorant child, you will be in the second way deriving 120-hour happiness. Even this is better than the 24 hour happiness and hence God did not create only situations of happiness in this world. The second middle way is better than the first way and the third way is your goal to be achieved.


If you are enjoying the world of different items and situations and be happy continuously, you become equal to God atleast in the process of enjoyment. You can neither create the world nor put the end to world. You cannot also control the world in between these two states. You are neither Brahma, the creator, nor Vishnu, the controller and nor Rudra, the destroyer. All these three are the names of the three potentialities of God. In view of these potentialities, you are totally different from God (Dvaita). Atleast, enjoy this world like God enjoying all the situations of life. If you can attain this state, you are equal to God and this is the Advaita preached by Shankara. All the spectators of the cinema are equal as far as the state of continuous enjoyment of the cinema is concerned. The producer cum director may be one of the spectators in the hall. The enjoyment of such producer cum director is one and the same as the enjoyment of a poor beggar. The personal positions and capabilities are immaterial as far as the process of enjoyment is concerned. Your friend earned the food materials and cooked to prepare both sweet and hot dishes. You neither earned nor cooked the food. Atleast, become equal to your friend by enjoying the food like him.


The equality in the process of enjoyment of different situations is yoga (Samatvam yoga… Gita). Some foolish people try to develop the detachment and inertness in enjoying the different situations of this world. This equality in inertness is interpreted as yoga by such ignorant people. Non-enjoyment and inertness is not the aim of God in creating this creation. If God wants to be inert and peaceful by non-enjoyment, He could have kept silent without creating this universe. You go to the cinema hall, close your eyes and ears and finally come out saying that you remained in equal balanced state! In such case, you can stay in your house and there is no need to go to cinema hall. Such philosophers will be born as inert stones since they tried for such state only.

You should go to the cinema hall and enjoy the cinema with different scenes and your process of enjoyment should be continuous and should be in equally balanced state of deriving continuous happiness from both happy and unhappy scenes. The continuous equality (Samatvam) should be in the process of enjoyment of both sweet and hot scenes. The continuous equality should not be in the inert non-enjoyment by closing the eyes and ears. On one side, you say that awareness is God and on other side, you develop the state of inertness, which is the non-awareness! This becomes self-contradiction!! You can never be God in the case of the potentialities (Eshwara), but atleast be God, the possessor of awareness (Brahman), to enjoy this world constituted by multi-phased scenes and derive continuous happiness. This is the essence of the monism (Advaita) of Shankara. This is the highest concept in the spiritual knowledge and this is the only way to become God perfectly and completely atleast in the present state of enjoying the world continuously.

Veda as reference

There are several religions and there are several scriptures corresponding to these religions. We must fix a scripture as the primary standard so that other scriptures can be standardized with reference to that. The other scripture also becomes standard with reference to which some other scripture can be also standardized. This is called as the process of standardization in Science.

Such a primary standard can be the Veda. I know immediately the colours of your faces will change. Immediately you will blame Me that I am not the preacher of Universal Religion. You will misunderstand Me as the preacher of Hinduism in guise. This situation will arise even if I take the scripture of some other religion also as the primary standard. The misunderstanding is inevitable and unavoidable.

I have to take one scripture of some religion and I have to be subjected to the criticism. Therefore, I ignore the criticism. I know what I am in My inner consciousness. My inner self is the real witness as long as I am the preacher of Universal Religion to My inner self, I need not fear for any external criticism from any angle.

The reason for selecting Veda as the primary standard is that even today the Veda is being preserved by oral recitation with the help of thousands of families. If you go to older and older times millions of families were reciting Veda just to preserve it from any type of intrusions or deletions. In Indian spiritual field there are several branches of philosophy who fight with each other orally.

For all these branches, Veda is the standard text. Such situation never existed in any religion in this world and does not exist even today. Even today different schools of philosophy in Hinduism fight with each other and all of them quote the same Veda. Such competition was and is unique in Hinduism. In such competitive atmosphere pollution of Veda is impossible.

If any word is added or deleted, immediately the other schools will shout because they fear that in such case Veda may support a particular branch of philosophy due to the possibility of a new interpretation for a new sentence. Leave the past. Tell Me frankly whether such situation exists in any religion in this world even today. This is the main reason why I have selected Veda as the primary standard. The diversity in Hinduism has done lot of good in this direction.

The sanctity of the scripture is well protected. In the olden days the books were in the form of written scripts of palm leaves. Printing was not there. Therefore, a very few scripts were only present. In such case it was very easy to introduce a new palm leaf or to remove an older palm leaf because hardly one or two scripts were present in a very large region.

Except this one reason there is no any other reason for Me to favour Veda but you need not worry that the scriptures of other religions have to be judged with reference to Veda only. Fortunately, all the scriptures of all the religions agree with Veda. The primary standard is useful in very few places where there is disagreement. Even that disagreement arises only from the misinterpretation of the statement. If the correct interpretation is given all the statements are perfectly coinciding with Veda.

Moreover, one can decide the final version of any concept based on the logical analysis. If the logical analysis fails, then mere Veda need not be taken as authority. If the logic disagrees you can reject any scripture including Veda. Therefore, Veda along with the logical analysis only stands as a primary standard. When you are convinced logically about a concept and when such concept is found in Veda, then only the concept is authorised.

Therefore, I am not rubbing Veda on any head without the logical analysis. Therefore, one need not doubt about the fanatic. The primary standard means the original word of God heard directly. But when other scriptures are perfectly in agreement with such word where is the question of fanatic? Every scripture becomes the word of God.

This point supports the Universal Religion, which says that the single God delivered the scriptures of all the religions. When the author is one and the same how can there be difference between the scriptures? If there is any difference it is only by your misinterpretation. Therefore, primary standard is only for convenience but not for fanatic.

God uses fruit of your bad deed to create devotion in you

God grants certain desires also – to uplift the soul gradually.
God is preacher in this world – He uses the fruits of your deeds
To develop you spiritually, - this world is called as Karma loka,
Where you develop yourself – guided by God acting as preacher.
This world is not to consume – fruits of your good and bad deeds,
For that the upper worlds exist, - they are called as Bhoga Lokas.
God uses fruit of your bad deed – from the list of your punishments
To create devotion in you, - souls are like ignorant children only.

They will never become devotees – by the real devotion here.
They study for five minutes – on giving a small stroke with cane.
They become again mischievous – forgetting the effect of cane.
Similarly, a trouble is a cane, - you will become devoted to God.
You derive happiness, again – you forget devotion, become yourself.
The fruit of your good deed – acts as a gap between two troubles.

The happiness gives a gap – making you fresh for re-devotion
That comes again in the next – trouble, another stoke of cane.
Like this God uses your deeds – in any sequence He likes as per
The requirement of your spiritual – development in this world.


When you are not changed – you will face final enquiry after
This rare human birth and – you will be thrown to hell forever.
If you are good for society – without any devotion to God,
You will be sent to heaven – till the duration of fruit exists,
You will come down to earth, - God acts as a judge only after
Your exit from this human birth, – not as a preacher at all.
Therefore, there is no re-birth, - certainly no human re-birth,
Only for few exceptional cases, - in which there is hope of
Future spiritual development, - God grants human rebirth.
The liberated souls by His – devotion are always with God
Taking human re-births – to assist God in human form here.

God exists at the boundary of universe
Unimaginable boundary of the universe is the proof of God

Today, the logical analysis is not only sharp but also steady due to experimental verification of every concept. The receiving nature of the people is quite stable due to the scientific analysis. People are not fast in applying the theoretical tautology to arrive at hasty conclusions. In view of the stability of the phase of intelligence, the projection of the real unimaginable nature of God will not face the danger of non-existence. The scientist may not believe any miracle and may say that nothing is unimaginable. But the scientist must accept the unimaginable boundary of the universe.

The scientist may argue like this:- “When the universe is imaginable made of imaginable cosmic energy as the fundamental cause, how can you say that the boundary of the universe is unimaginable? Just like the ocean is water, the boundary of the ocean must be also be the same water. Hence, the boundary of the imaginable universe must be also imaginable”. This type of argument is not acceptable if you analyze the subtle point of the boundary. When you reach the edge of the ocean and stand on it, you must find water on one side and the land, which is not water on the other side. The knowledge of both water and land is necessary to fix the boundary of the ocean. Land is not water. If land is also water, then the boundary of the ocean is not achieved. Similarly, when you reach the boundary of the imaginable universe, you must perceive the imaginable nature of the universe on one side and the unimaginable nature on the other side. If the unimaginable nature is also imaginable, then the boundary of imaginable nature is not achieved.

When the unimaginable nature cannot be imagined by your intelligence, it means you have never reached the boundary of the imaginable universe. Unless you perceive both imaginable and unimaginable natures, the boundary of the imaginable nature is not achieved. Hence the boundary of the universe is always unimaginable from the other side. Some scientists say that the diameter of the universe is 200 billion light years.

Another scientist laughed at this by asking that if he travels all this diameter and reach the compound wall of universe, what is present beyond such compound wall? One scientist says that the universe is constantly expanding! This is again a laughable concept since it finally means that you can never achieve the boundary of the universe. Hence, by all means the scientist has to accept the existence of the unimaginable entity, which is the other side of the boundary of the universe. It is not the boundary if the other side is not achieved. The scientist has stable and steady intelligence to realize the truth in this argument unlike a theoretical ancient tautologist. The unimaginable item, which is beyond the boundary of this imaginable universe is called as God.


When this universe is projected from God, you will touch God on reaching the edge of the universe. You can never touch God since He is unimaginable. It means that you can never reach the boundary of this universe. Today this fundamental concept is revealed due to confidence on the stable and steady analytical faculty of real scientists. Ofcourse, foolish conservative scientists also exist even today in small number and this is inevitable at any time. Moreover, today there is lot of demand for the revelation of this basic concept in view of the violent terrorism that arose from the differences between the religions.

Uyi Iredia: I totally agree. This is why I define myself as a Christian pantheist. I believe in the same God apprehended in various ways over the centuries.

One religion says that the God is awareness. Another religion says that God is all pervading cosmic energy. Another religion says that God is light and another religion says that God is fire etc. Like this, different created items of this universe were taken as the basic real God. Hence quarrels started, which were intensified by debates. People sitting before a dining table are quarrelling with each other since one says that the vessel is gold, another says that the plate is gold, another says that the spoon is gold and another says that the tumbler is gold. This quarrel will never end because no item on the dining table is gold! Everyone is treating a particular item as gold. Treating an item as gold is totally different from the actual item to be gold.

Similarly, the reality is that God is unimaginable, who is beyond this imaginable universe. The simple reason for this is that the universe is fundamentally constituted of space or volume, which is the basic subtle energy and God is beyond the space since God has no dimensions. Now you can treat any meritorious item of the creation as God based on the merits liked by you neglecting the defects. The awareness is not God because it is not all pervading. The cosmic energy is not God because it is inert. The light and fire also cannot be God for the same reason that they are inert. But any of these items can be treated as God for the sake of meditation and worship.

Such worship is called as the worship of representative model (Pratika Upasana). The direct worship (Sakshat Upasana) is also possible when God enters a human being to give right direction through propagation of right spiritual knowledge. In such case also, every such human being is God and the unimaginable God exists in such every human being. The human being is only the medium of God, but such charged human being can be treated as real God like the electrified wire being treated as the electricity itself.

Hence Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad etc becomes God and there need not be any quarrel in this point also for the sake of world peace based on the harmony of religions. This fundamental concept is revealed since simultaneously it is fortunate that today there is confidence on the receiving power of the stable and steady scientific analysis of human beings.

Hell, Heaven and Kingdom Of Lord

This universe is infinite. I am unable to show the existence of these super worlds to you. I accept my incapability. But you are also incapable to prove directly the non-existence of these super worlds. Have you taken all over the universe and said, " Here ends the universe. Beyond this point there is no universe. This is the compound wall of the space. Your super world does not exist anywhere’’. Therefore, there is equal chance for the existence and non-existence of the super worlds according to the theory of probability.

Now let us analyse of our cases. Both of us are eating to live. The basic needs are satisfied in the cases of both of us. You have spent extra time also in earning more money, which may give you some problems of health like sugar, B.P etc., due to over enjoying. I have not earned more money and I am healthy due to normal food. None of us will carry the money with us after death. The money given to the children may also be lost in several ways. Therefore, I do not find much difference between us, once the basic needs are satisfied. I am poor because I have spent my extra time in the service of God.

Suppose after my death, you are correct and there are no super worlds. In such case what I have lost? There is no loss for me. But after your death, suppose I am correct and there are super worlds. You have lost every thing and God will not save you. Thus, even on accepting your argument, based on the equal probability, it is better to serve the Lord by sacrificing the extra time and energy for the Lord after earning the basic needs. You must read the theory of probability, which is perfectly a scientific theory.

Oneness of God of different religions

Every religion says that its God created the entire earth and entire humanity. But, unfortunately there is only one earth containing this humanity. Due to one earth, there must be one God only and hence all the religions are calling the same God by different names. Since the God is unimaginable and nobody can even imagine Him, all the names are indicating that unseen and unimaginable God only. This unimaginable God is mediated by energy. Such mediated God is also one and the same because energy is also one and the same for all religions. This mediated God is called as Brahman by Hinduism, Jehovah by Christianity and Allah by Islam. The absolute unimaginable God as well as the medium [Energy] are one and the same and hence there is no difference between these three names.

Of course, when the absolute God gets mediated by human bodies, there may be minute difference in the form, culture and language of the external human form as in the case of Krishna of Hinduism, Jesus of Christianity and Mohammad of Islam. Even here the material of the human body is one and the same except slight variation in the external form. From the point of absolute God, here also there is no trace of difference and hence all these three human forms are also one and the same.

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Castos: The word of God made it clear to us that it'll be easy for a carmel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter heaven.Does this include the good, bad and ugly? It does sounds like a curse, doesn't it? Now the problem is, can any rich man on earth possibly make heaven, whether by mistake or whatever way! Am afraid, what if I get so rich which I know would happen soon, but guys i want to make heaven. Please what can one do to escape this? any idea, clue, please share because it's really obvious to me!

Determination to sacrifice wealth for the sake of God

The extent of the determination to sacrifice wealth for the sake of God is one important angle. Another important angle is the recognition of human form of God, who enjoys your sacrifice. Devotees, who are matured in both these angles are very very rare. You may be well versed in the first angle, but you will fail in the second angle. The sages in the forest were in the climax of the first angle. Sharabhanga, a sage, sacrificed his life for the sake of God, but could not recognize Rama (then human incarnation) as the human incarnation of God. Instead of sacrificing his body in the fire alter, he should have sacrificed his life in participating the war between Rama and Ravana.

Similarly, people recognize the human form of God, but are unable to sacrifice anything for the sake of God. Dhrutarashtra recognized Krishna as God, but could not donate even five villages begged by the Lord for the sake of Pandavas. The failure in the second angle is mainly due to repulsion with the common co-human form. The ego and jealousy are the two layers that cover the two eyes of any devotee in recognizing the co-human form of the Lord. Unless you reach the climax of both these angles, you cannot succeed in your spiritual field (nivrutti).

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