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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Many Take Jesus As The Supreme God???? by daviddove(op): 12:55am On Dec 08, 2019 |
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"For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." - Isaiah 9:6 El Gibboa translated mighty God in Isaiah was applied to humans too "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.[/color]." - John 1:1 And humans are not called Gods too ? "Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, [a]the Beginning and the End,” says the [b]Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." - Revelation 1:7-8 Jesus is not who is , who was and who is to come, Go back to Rev 1:4-6 , Jesus is different from that person. Besides, can the Almighty have a God ? Assignment for you |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Many Take Jesus As The Supreme God???? by daviddove(op): 12:52am On Dec 08, 2019 |
paxonel: humans are called small God's, not the supreme God. Humans lifespan were limited and never lived from the beginning. But Jesus is the supreme God himself who has lived from the beginning according to John 1:1. So, don't tell me i shouldn't bring John 1:1 In your dreams , You think Greek language differentiate God from god in original writings ? You see why John 1:1 is not related to this case your question shows your opinion that Christ is the supreme God himself as the supreme God cannot possibly have a God because he is all supreme. Christ have a God - Rev 3:12 . Clearly he is not supreme |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Many Take Jesus As The Supreme God???? by daviddove(op): 1:37pm On Dec 07, 2019 |
paxonel: do you believe God has the power to do anything? If you believe that, what then stops you from believing also that God has the power to transform himself from spirit to a physical human as recorded in John 1:1...AND THE WORD WAS GOD You dont have any understanding, Even humans are called Gods , so dont bring John 1:1 , can the supreme God Have a God ? Did Jesus have a God? |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Many Take Jesus As The Supreme God???? by daviddove(op): 8:17am On Oct 12, 2019 |
OpenYourEyes1: You do not understand the mystery of GOD. So whats the msytery bro? Jesus is the supreme God? |
Christianity Etc › Why Do Many Take Jesus As The Supreme God???? by daviddove(op): 7:42am On Oct 12, 2019 |
I wonder why some take Jesus as the supreme God,mayb they dnt evn read there bible well |
Christianity Etc › And What Was The Initial Meaning Of The Word Hell? by daviddove(op): 1:52pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
[color=#990000][/color].....and what was the initial meaning if hell? and why cant u find the word 'hellfire' in the first set of translation if bible buh just 'hell'
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Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by daviddove: 12:12pm On May 22, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Born of water does not mean water baptism same way born of spirit does not mean physical birth. How you managed to separate both is what I find dubious.
Jesus even further explained that the process of being born again which involves being born of water and spirit is something g eyes can't see just as we can't see the wind where it comes from and where it's going.
John 3:8 (KJV) The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Your mistake is that you think when one becomes Born again, it means he will live as a spirit forever. You even went ahead to say that those JW who are born again will live as spirit forever in heaven. Doesn't this contradict your doctrine of soul-sleep? You mean born again spirits will now seized time exist until resurrection or they will continue to live as spirit while you remaining jw remain dead?
What you fail to know is that when we become born again, God gives us his spirit. During resurrection, we get to wear our perfect bodies and not live as spirits but humans.
You cleverly deleted other verses and points that prove my stance and picked the one you could twist.
God who sanctified the Church by washing it has been in the business of doing so right from the old testament. Washing wasn't strictly for the church alone but for all believers. God who did it today did it yesterday.
Ezekiel 36:25-26 – Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. I will place My Spirit within you and cause you to follow My statutes and carefully observe My ordinances.
Bath or wash, what's the difference? Nothing.
Yes, Jesus said to be Born of WATER. But that doesn't mean one will become water. Or are you trying to tell me that your JW 144,000 will not only live as spirits but as water as well? 
The water Jesus emphasized on there is spiritual washing away of sins and anything that can make man stand guilty before God.
As seen, born of water and spirit aren't physical effects but spiritual and unseen. The spirit is when God gives us his spirit for believing in his son, while the washing is when God washes away all our guilt.
1 Corinthians 6:11 (KJV) And such were some of you: but ye are washed , but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God .
So you see, you came up with a lame response. please define water baptisim? explaim whats happning in luke 3:21 'Now when all the people were baptized, Jesus also was baptized and, as he was praying, the heaven was opened up' jesus also was baptised.....does that means he has sin nope buh a new way of life to lay a path fr us cause ur own washing nd washing keep on laying on washing of sin and i want to knw please tell me....does why do they took water baptism so important in the bible and why do they baptised anyone that believs in the word? cause u are talking as if water batism is a waste of time...nd i cnt still laugh alone and lastly |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by daviddove: 12:06pm On May 22, 2019 |
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Smh it is sown a physical body and raised a spiritual body He is talking about ressurection
What is born of spirit is Spirit ? Is it not Jesus that talk am ?
U lied , Blood of goat and ran can't wash away their sins. Offpoint
Bath is continuous, born occur once
You are the silly one, Jesus himself never said what is born of water will be water Because he knows the meaning and instruct his disciples to baptize as well help me ask me what jesus mean when he said they should baptise them in the name of father and the son nd the holy spirit |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by daviddove: 12:01pm On May 22, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: I have every right to call your understanding of the Bible junk because it goes contrary to the Bible. I've used countless verses to explain how wrong you are, which you haven't disputed especially concerning salvation. So, the next thing to do is reprove you because your understanding is inspired by 8 men who call themselves GB, not by the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 5:11-12 (KJV) And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. mathew 24:45 forget about jw now as of u answer me who really is the discreet slave appointed over the domenstic propties? who are they now in the world? who are the discreet slaves Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? (mathew 24:45) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by daviddove: 11:55am On May 22, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: I have every right to call your understanding of the Bible junk because it goes contrary to the Bible. I've used countless verses to explain how wrong you are, which you haven't disputed especially concerning salvation. So, the next thing to do is reprove you because your understanding is inspired by /b 8 men who call themselves GB, not by the Holy Spirit. b/
Ephesians 5:11-12 (KJV) And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. they did more than this to moses.....evn his own sister did same to him....they taught all he keep on telling them cant b inspired of God Jehovah u just said 8 men smiles then in the isrealites days befre the kings nd other sets in....it was a man..lol...moses nd people like you look down on im.... wait how many men were the whole bible given to...smiles not evn up to 50 ...aint that funny... think abt it again....how many men did jesus took as disciples while he was on earth nd give his words to write.....wow just 12...was it that men are scarce...nope its simply because God is not after qunatities buh qualities think of it....during the days of lot....how many soul were saved.....indeed a rightoeus man was evn asking God what if its just a righteous man that his good in deed will such b saved....and God said yeap....imagine...just one....God is not after quantities imagine again....keep imagining..lol Jesus the representative nd son of God said somtin while on earth......he said narrow is the way that leads to salvation ...few people path through it...imagine few....not abt quantities owkay in times of noah nko... just imagine...8 souls were saved the governing body is indeed provinding the best food to be eaten...and stop fioling around with rotten foods.. besides....bible is the reference of all they are doing they have searched the Bible thoroughly.... they have made reseraches neccessary to the extent of visiting important places nd going back to the root of matters....to the extent of being commended evn by tjose that are not witness buh that can say the truth they see nd not hiding the truth |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by daviddove: 11:19am On May 22, 2019 |
What have u prooved? |