Katsumoto:

Again football is a team sport. Rio has done it for club and country as well but Germany is a much better footballing nation than England and as such, Boateng will win more national trophies than Rio. Forget about trophies for now; Rio and Boateng are not mates. You are a Bayern supporter and probably biased. Apart from Bayern fans, Boateng is not heralded as one of the best defenders in the world; Rio was during his prime.

Maybe because Bayern fans have a better view of the game than most epl fans who don't see anything else aside their mediocre English league.

On this forum insane comparison have been made by epl fans and even last world cup Andy Gray an English journalist was telling us only 2 German players would make the English team, these are people who form the opinions of most epl fans.

Here we've seen ppl tell us Rooney is better than Muller, Joe Cole is better than schweinsteiger, comparing Ashley Cole and evra to Phillip Lahm. Less than a week ago someone quoted a post that Joe Hart is better than Neuer and cleverly is better than Reus abd Gotze.

When I tell you Ferdinand is garbage and at his best was never as good as Boateng you can take it to the bank

Katsumoto:

Dayokanu

Clearly you have something against Rio

In the last decade, the closest defender to Rio is Nesta. Vidic is similar to Terry and Campbell; although very good but he was raped regualrly by Torres when Torres was at Liverpool. Rio, in my opinion, was the complete defender. The issue many have with Rio is that he defends with ease. The best defenders eliminate goal scoring threats well before relying on last ditch tackles. I will never forget how Rio caught up with Aghahowa and eased him off the ball before turning and passing the ball. gra gra defenders would have just cleared Aghohowa beyond the line.

Ferdinand to Nesta? That's the kind of hype and comparison that makes England remain trophy less for like half a century.

In comparison to Italian defenders Ferdinand would rank with Mark Iuliano and Birindelli. A 17yr old Nesta sodomized Paul Gascoigne so bad in training that he fled Italy.

No defender in the history of English football can hold a candle to Nesta. As good as I think Boateng is, I won't compare him to Nesta.

In the last twenty years Maldini Nesta Sammer Kohler Canavaro are my top ranked defenders.

Ferdinand at best would be in tier 4

barackohandso: Good! As relative as the word might mean in a given context, what criterion are you using as your basis for this comparison, trophies? Cos ferdinand has got a whole lot of them. At his age and current form, Boateng will do better, but not until. If Boateng retires today, do you A40 consider him a bayern legend? Same goes for Rio. Haba! Give honor na

Performance in big games is what distinguish average players from great ones. Rio when the stakes get high becomes pure trash.

Before Boateng became a pro I've always said Ferdinand is rubbish just a product of the British hype machine. Scholes one of the real talented players from England is actually the one not insanely hyped

Ask the average epl fan they would be talking about Lampard and Gerrard when Scholes is the real don. Which shows many don't know football

barackohandso: Honestly I can't believe someone who claims to have been a footie follower since the early 90s will utter a statement as the emboldened. If Rio is a useless how'd he win all the trophies he has? The WC is the biggest trophy in soccer, so you might be right about Boateng having done more than Rio, but it's still relative as the WC isn't a annually played tournament and I'm sure you count a shit-load of great players who didn't win it. If this argument was between Lahm and Gary neville, then I'd understand, but Boateng to Ferdinand? For starters, Boateng wasn't even the best defender at the WC

I watched Rio at Leeds with Ian Harte, Radebe etc and he has always been average and overhyped. Wes Brown also won trophies and John oshea. Ferdinand rode on the brilliance of vidic. Vidic is one of the best defenders of the last decade and I would acknowledge this even though he plays for man utd but Ferdinand is pure garbage

barackohandso: You should as well know that "that a player won the WC shouldn't bring comparison with every other legendary player" like you guys are doing since Germany won the mundial. Obviously boateng is better ATM but Rio in his prime was the best in the business. Some comparisons shouldn't be made!

When was this Rio prime? Because for the past 15yr Ferdinand has been a useless defender.

I know quality when I see one unlike most epl fans. That's why I would always respect vidic Scholes Giggs even though they play for United I would take them at Bayern in a heartbeat.

It's not about present form, Ferdinand has always been a useless overhyped defender. Boateng at present has done more than Rio ever did in his career

pkasso: So because Boateng plays well in finals we should overlook his flaws and weaknesses? You keep going on about how well Boateng plays in finals but you seem(or chose) to forget it was his fatal error that allowed Drogba to head home in the UCL final of 2011.Drogba should have never beaten him to that ball.

Blaming Boateng for Drogba goal when we have a 6ft 6 van buyten who was lost in the play.

Isn't it ironic that the person hammering on Boateng faults yet in the same breathe halls David luiz as a top defender. A player whose middle name is error.

If with these flaws he can make great strikers like aguero higuain Lewandoski Reus Lavezzi and even Messi look like grade d footballers in a major final then I think it's a good flaw unlike your favorite defender who disgraced himself his family, his nation and everyone who had anything to do with him.

leggo: 4 bulis =a place in the community shield match...no Jokes only Fact.

No wonder Bayern beat every EPL representative just last season from Chelsea to Citeh to Arsenal to Manure

All of them were sodomised without condoms

patrickmuf: He jumps from thread to thread looking for just about anybody to start up an argument... Me thinks he's obsessed with EPL or probably thinks every body doubts the quality of Bayern players hence the reason he's always comparing players to prove his points...

No sane person would doubt that Bayern is superior to every single club in the EPL, Why should there be an argument about that.

patrickmuf: Are we talking about the same Messi who destroyed Bayern some years back?

That was when useless defenders were in Bayern Messi destriyed Lell, Demichelis, Breno and Oddo. Since Boateng has been facing him he hasnt scored a single goal
unlike Ferdinand who was embarassed

afrodoc: I wonder why you guys keep replying these Bayern trolls?
You guys should have noticed they go from Chelsea to Arsenal to United thread trolling.
And we know why.......nobody to chat with on their boring thread!

We measure success based on number of trophies to celebrate not the number of barely literate fans who shout Up Man U, Up Shesee or up Assna.

elampiro: If no be Higuain and that yeye guy wey get one long hair for he augo like shaolin tempo pupil, wey dem squander chances in the world cup final, this comparison for no come.

So na Higuain make Ferdinand useless or na Higuain Rio dey play when dem dey embarrass am, or na Higuain make ordinary players like yakubu dey abuse am on the regular

or na only higuain Boateng sodomize at the finals? Messi, Higuain, Aguero, Palacios all were molestedd by Boateng something no one in the Ferdinand lineage can dream of

[img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs05p9mIEAA_Kqt.jpg:large[/img]

^^ 2003 ni jare my broda

So coded.

Out of 200 nations in the world Can you mention 2 countries that have been more consistent than Germany either at World cup, Euro cup or whatever basis you choose

4llerbuntu: I hope we won't hear "the squad is unbalanced" bs talk this year sha.......

at least the squad is now 'Jose's team'

Wait now.

By August me go ask them Is this Jose's team, Are you still in transition? Who are the teams stronger than Chelsea

Because by February now you go begin hear say Sunderland had a better squad than Chelsea. When people can open mouth say Liverpool had a better squad than Chelsea last season. The same Liverpool whose 2nd best player was chased out for being below Chelseas standards

pkasso: At least i'm not the only one who thinks this way.Have a read. .

http://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2014/6/11/5798432/jerome-boateng-bayern-munich-2013-2014-season-review.

Which kain tank be Boateng? Na armour tank abi na septic tank? No prizes for getting the answer.

Man lie, woman lie stats dont lie.

Its a writers opinion and its like an asshole everyone has one. The figures are what one cant dispute. If you like say 9ice is richer than Dangote, Numbers dont lie

Boateng stats in major finals attached

You have stats from the CL finals and the world cup finals in front of you.

In case you missed it this is it again

Boateng one of the best players on the field on those nights silencing feared attackers like Aguero, Lewandoski, Reus Higuain and even Messi

This is no small game, Its a freaking final

WHen you google clutch players Boateng would be the picture

Badstuber played in a friendly. He still lacks sharpness which might take him a long time to regain

Could it be because he wasnt allowed to play in CM?

This Lahm matter tire me o. Retired in a position we have the least depth

Ferdinand is no better than Efe Sodje. I have always said it that he is an average defender who always gets people to cover up his mess

Dadehmola:
Which yeye comparison? I have told you- a rio Ferdinand on his death bed (may he live long) is far better than a fully fit boateng!
By the way, your boateng was only outstanding in the final. If you want to base your evaluation on such isolated performances, he must also be better than Thiago silva.
If Being turned inside out by the best player on the planet is dubbed as a "disgrace" by you, I see no reason why we should be having this type of convo.
Everyone knows that boateng's case is akin to pique's- both are lucky to play for clubs and countries whose tactics would always mask the defensive frailties of such shyty players. Despite the cover ups, we still get to see the actual abilities of these players from time to time (boateng alago igbala )
In a nutshell, boateng <= Carl jenkinson!

When Rio Ferdinand or anyone in his generation posts that type of performance in a world cup final get back to me.

In the past 16months Boateng has played in 2 major finals CL and World cup and posted stellar performances which Rio can never do in his lifetime multiplied by 7

Even Ferdinand himself wont dare compare himself to Boateng

Boateng stats in major finals

While Ferdinand was molested and outjumped by a midget in a world cup final for the final goal
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pkasso: Haven't we seen this before? At the start of last season Dante was a bit out of shape and that allowed Boateng to step up.I was impressed and was beginning to have second thoughts about him.Alas it was a false dawn,approaching winter break Mr Alago returned to his former self.5tupid fouls, silly sending-offs,losing concentration.A leopard never changes its spots.Boateng might put in a good show every now and then(heck even Senderos has his good days) but deep down he is still that wack CB.

Havent we seen what before? Well I have seen Boateng boss major finals for Germany and Bayern in the last 16months

I would rather have a defender who beasts in a world cup final over one who embarrased his own country in the world cup semi and was crying like a bitcch in front of TV

Low the German coach saw it that Biateng and Hummels are the best pairing for Germany

According to whoscored.com

In the CL finals, Boateng was our best player after Robben, stats attached below.

In the world cup finals Boateng was our best player after Hummels IMO Boateng was even better than Hummels on the night

Stats have shown Boateng is one of Germany and Bayern best performers on the biggest stage while playing in central defence And no amount of bad belle can change that

Dadehmola:

Ferdinand on crutches>>>>>jerome "alago" boateng at his best!!

When Ferdinand gives the type of performance Jerome gave at a world cup final lets start the comparison

Ferdinand at his prime was disgraced in a CL final by Messi

It took Rio Ferdinand ex wife of Yakubu Aiyegbeni almost 30yrs to discover where his talent level is.

QPR to the rescue since Vidic no dey to dey bail am out again

debosky: Same bs by haters on this thread? I'll get back to working with Ivan 'Gazza' Gazidis on making more signings.

If you like make you go give Ivan Shakabula Mouth Gig, You no go see past the 4th position

The only improvement would be that you would win the 4th position trophy early and comfortably since your signings have given you better quality than your opposition

"4th positon trophy", "CL 2nd round exit" trophy" and top of league by mid August.

Treble for Arsenal

BTW Congrats sharpshooter , you suppose fit bench Giroud with your efficiency in front of goal

A40:
Boateng can do a job at RB because he is versatile but his strength is at CB! Playing him at the 2 short-changes us going forward because he is not so offensive but don't allow your bad belle cover your mouth from speaking the truth. Hummels and Boa-TANK is the #1 CB pairing

Sorg is rubbish! Plus he is more LB than RB, Isn't he on the same team with Ginter? If at his age he isn't even close to cracking the national team then he is not remotely good enough

Is there any doubt about the bold? Mertersacker has been shamed out of the NT defence He has been given the role of cheerleader. If he had any self worth he would have retired

Boateng-Hummels partnership conceded 0 goals at the world cup playing against top nations like France Argentina and Brazil.

All Boateng doubters and haters have been shut up. All the face saving excuses doesnt cut again. Especially the comparison with sideshow bob jester David Playstation Luiz who cost his team at least 5 goals in the world cup.

Unless there is an injury in defence, Jogi Low knows Boateng-Hummels partnership is the truth

Lahms absence in the NT would really affect our play.

From the first game I saw him Stuttgart vs Man Utd in 3003 I knew he was destined for greatness his calm intelligent play
we would miss his sliding tackles, overlapping runs, quiet leadership, numerous assists and versatility of the "little Giant"

See as he dey battle giant Jan Koller in this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sCDJQUWJN8

The way a fullback plays in an attacking team is different. Ashley Cole plays in a defensive team. In Chelsea you rarely see their fullback ivanovic and Cole overlapping but in the German system it's more attacking and nothing is better than a winger moving, the full back is already providing an outlet creating a 2 beat 1.

That's a major characteristic of full backs in the modern game.

Think Alves Carlos Marcelo Maicon alaba alba Zabaleta,

Nowadays a full back isn't measured by defensive qualities as much as the attacking qualities. E.g. Danni alves

Unless you're a team who prefers to sit back and park the bus like Stoke city

Lahm is hands down the best and most balanced fullback of his generation and would be sorely missed.

I don't like this retirement but I respect his wish

Keky: None of your Defenders in Germany are up to there level in this same country of the blind.

Lol are you basket mouth in disguise?

German defenders just won the world cup less than a week ago yet comparing them to these lepers.

The best arsenal defender mertersacker couldn't even make the German first eleven. He is a cheerleader for the team

Jung Jantsche are average. Boateng can only be a makeshift right back. His best position is in the center. He doesn't have Lahm attacking verve which is a key part of a fullback job

Lahm has an insane number of assists and his timed overlapping runs are one of the best in the world.

It's a shock we would miss him.

THE SILENCE OF THE LAHM.

Keky: Flawless Victory !!!!!!!!! Best CB in EPL. Kos the BOSS!!!!!.

In a country of the blind those players call themselves defender.

edoyad:

Wind don blow, fowl yansh don open. Na now everybody go know who be who for Europe. My prayer this morning Jehovah is for you to put us in the same group with Bayern. Yes, I accept for us to be second seed.

You be eran iya.

How many seasons in a row now since Bayern has been sodomizing you

Lahm retirement came as a shock

He still has a good 5 yrs in him and at the National team no good Right back is in the horizon

Well good news from a Bayern perspective

I hope Robbery can also follow suit with their international retirement

Dhelake: It will go down in history that he played for Madrid

Like Roysthon Drenthe Thomas Gravesen, Raul Bravo, Mejia and Pavol

edoyad: For the first time in almost a decade, we are going into a season with the confidence that we can compete.

Compete for 4th position? You no get shame.

Won't it be easier to point at the goals Boateng and luiz caused their respective teams?

Luiz was getting points for scoring goals which is not a defenders job.

Their main job is defending. I've shown with images at least 5 goals luiz caused his nation

Can you do the same for Boateng to prove your case?