coogar:

yes, they would have conceded more. ryan shawcross is better than boateng. you are too silly to realise in a team, there are active participants & the passive ones. with or without boateng, germany would still have won the world cup. he adds nothing in value to the team..

Add nothing of value yet was best player in the final.

Why should I doubt you

coogar:

dayo is a troll!
according to his idumota logic, if you replace cahill with boateng, england would have won the world cup.

i am starting to think 90% of dayo's football intelligence has been eroded ever since he moved to the US. america has a way of doing that to you when all you see on their sports channels are men with helmets grabbing each other's bütts!

If you replace Boateng with Cahill England won't concede the idiotic goals they conceded all tournament long.

Your fascination with men's butt. Is this a new thing or it's always been in you

ElGuapo:

Cahill is faster and way stronger than Boateng, that's the features you need to thrive in the Epl and the key reason Cahill has been on his grind in this league for the past 6yrs.

Boateng doesn't possess these features, it was easy for Citeh to spot that and have him jettisoned.

Boateng left city for a better club to start in his favorite position.

Let me tell you. No defender in this current city is near as good as Boateng. That includes Kompany Lescott Demichelis Nastasic or whoever they have in defence.

He was told he wouldn't play for Germany if he plays in city especially under an inept coach like Mancini

coogar:

cahill, jones, smalling, etc will walk into your first team.

Yes I believe.

Cahill Jones and Smalling would bench Lahm Boateng and Hummel.

The same players who can't even make the 3 rats would play for Germany.

Who am I to argue.

Even Henderson would bench Schweinsteiger

When Tevez was picked in 2010, how did Messi fare?
The same Tevez who didn't score in UEFA competition for over 4 yrs till his goal vs benfica is now the reason Messi under performed?

If higuain was dropped same people would be asking why higuain was dropped or aguero

coogar:

cahill wasn't just there to make numbers. he was there - making a nuisance to your entire attack line. are you kidding me? abeg, cahill is a top top defender. if cahill was born german, he gets an automatic shirt.

When there are 8 players in the box bunkering even Mikel luiz Bosingwa all looked like Maldini

No English player would make the German eleven. That's a fact proven over time.

While mertersacker would be dragging shirt with Cahill if he was English

coogar:

cahill wasn't räped, the team failed him. cahill is one of the most accomplished defenders of his generation.

dayo, where's your memory? this same cahill peed on all your strikers at allianz arena when chelsea pinched the champions league trophy on your soil.

Every defender looks top class when you have 10 men in the box blocking shots.

That's why Cahill looks decent. In England where no one covers his goofs he was shown to be no better than Joseph Yobo

coogar:

that's a lie!
the same boateng was flogged out of man city - he was considered not good enough for the premier league.

At the time a 22yr old Boateng was in man city, Cahill was jostling with Bolton and other relegation quality players

Cahill at 25 was relegation quality, Boateng at 25 was the best player in a world cup final

ElGuapo:

Dayo if the sluggish duo of Boateng and Dante can fair ok in a highline, then horse sense would tell you that an agile and strong Cahill would look like Baresi in it.

A highline strategy places a big onus on quick and strong defs - qualities that wholly defines Cahill.

It's not about the strategy man, it's about the individual.

Cahill shits on Boateng jare!

Cahill agile and strong? In which planet. It's not even 3 weeks that Cahill was brutally molested at the world cup and folks are comparing him to the best defender in the world cup final

Nihilist: Cahill is miles better than Alago.

Fact

Cahill was disgraced out of the world cup for being incompetent. Boateng was best player in a world cup final.

Until anyone in Cahill generation can beat that

coogar:

dayo, this is preposterous!
cahill is better than any german central defender bar mats hummels. england lets cahill down, he should have been born in spain, italy & germany. we have long concluded germany don't produce quality defenders in numbers. your strength has always been your attack, midfield & goalkeeper.

ghana undressed your defence!

Cahill is only better than mertersacker. If he wad German he would be on the bench

This was the same way some argued with their life about Chelseas quality vs Bayern mid season they started telling us Chelsea is no better than stoke city

ElGuapo:

Hehe.

Oya the WC apart, Cahill and Boateng who's a better def?

Na so one kid from Manure thread named Pietro come here dey yarn okpata wey full em head, dey talk say Jones, Smalling, Ferdinard, Vidic and the Evans of this world better pass Cahill, Terry et al. The kind iranu we're made to live with for this board eh

Cahill is an average defender who benefits from playing in a defensive system where there are lots of players to cover his arsse.

Put Cahill in a high line defence and watch him get taken apart

Luiz is even worse. He is the symbol of the joke Brazil has become.

Imagine someone who calls himself a defender yet heads the ball back inside his own box?

You can't even do that at principals cup level

ddippset: I find it quite interesting you decide to agree with maradona today. is he no longer that senile old junkie who talks alot of crap? lol.

Maradona has been known to heap massive praises on Messi from time.

But this one is korokoro

Tval:

We av got no Luiz at Chelsea.

You dey deny sideshow Bob?

chic2pimp:
Cynthia uwak dey find you. She wants the D



Think he was more concerned with Pep's high defensive line than anything else. I remember having that argument with him and Baba 40

I've always maintained luiz can't defend. No wonder Mourinho a defensive coach chased him to midfield

ElGuapo:

Cahill ke? The only mafian in England's backline?

This na the kind reasoning wey I no dey like.

A team's success sometimes tend to overshadow a player's poor outing, just like a team's shortcoming sometimes tend to overshadow a player's decent performance.

If you wan make comparison, comot Boateng and Cahill keep one side and ask yourself who is better.

Mafia ko Eiye ni.

Go and watch Ballotelli goal and see how Cahill was disgraced. Caught ball watching and later van persing

Nihilist: Luiz is not a Chelsea player....he was a 50 million pound open cheque

Anyway he scored that fantastic freekick...so his worldcup wasn't too bad.

The same Boateng that DK is hyping now, is the one he was lamenting about before the Real Madrid game because quote 'their attackers could hurt them'.

One website hack later, and Boateng is now the love child of Maldini and Gentile.

A40 is even calling him boa-tank.

Boatank?

More like Boa-Stank.

Or GP Tank?

Ayipee Ayipee...

Luiz scored a free-kick? Is that part of a defenders job?
At luiz main job which is defence, he sucks.

We should crown Rogerio Ceni the best keeper because he scores free-kick

Luiz and Cahill were disasters this world cup. While Boateng was the best player in a world cup final

Tval:

Which of the Luiz?

Luiz was one of the worst defenders at this world cup. He became the object of ridicule by every one.

If you want I can do a list of the amount of goals luiz cost Brazil.

They would have fared better if they played Danny Shittu in defence

Kempes na idiiiot, Maradona na idiiot

Just because they told the truth.

Every one knows this Messi award is undeserved.

Boateng was better than any Chelsea defender at the world cup.

In a world cup final stopping the best player in the world while Chelsea defenders luiz and Cahill were the joke of the tournament

mukina2:
nor blame am . .sometimes he only has himself to talk to

You know say succeful ppl and always the minority

e.g 732 players came to the world cup only 20 + 3 Arsenal passengers were champions

BOATENG be like "They see me rollin, they hatinnnnn

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Arsenal players can be useful too

naijababe:

Just own up already, you love it here Dayo

Love it where? When my team captain is leading a team to the world cup, my team player scoring the winning goal, My team keeper winning the best keeper and

My team dominating the team of the tournament

Johnpaul88: Who the hell cares about a goddamn golden ball? All Messi ever wanted is the trophy!

But that doesn't stop Dayokanu & his right hand man from coming here to break their head in utter agony!

Agony you say? Yes agony of a world cup winner.

Muller has the appropriate response for you

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Nihilist:
Slow your roll Mr Oga

Mikel Obi has 1 EPL, 4 FA Cups, 1 Carling, 1 UCL, 1 Europa, and 1 CAN to his name

Fernando Torres has 2 FA Cups, 2 Euros, 1 CL, 1 Europa, and the World Cup

It is possible to find passengers and stowaways(in Boateng's case) on the ride to success...

In which of these finals did any of these players was the best player?

Towards winning these trophies how many games didthese players start?

Boateng started all games to winning a World cup and a CL. In the WC final he was statistically the best player. beat that

^^ Probably because they have better things to do like celebrating a club full of world cup winners

Bayern Munich players scored 18 goals at the world cup

Can you tell us about your miserable Arsenal?

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Someone is comparing this sham to Zidane in 2006 and Forlan in 2010

Forlan 2010 = 1 goal in quarter final, 1 goal in semi final, 1 goal in 3rd place match

Zidane 2006 = 1 goal in second round, 1 assist for the winning goal in quarter final, 1 winning goal in the semi finals, 1 goal in the finals

This is what you are comparing to Messi 2014?

ddippset: in order to play well messi must score a hattrick and dribble 5 defenders. anything less, he is a flop.

Won't it be easier to just tell how many goals or assist he had at the business end of the tournament.

Messi without doubt is the best player in the world and in his generation but in this world cup he did not deserve the golden ball award.

Why is that difficult for you to understand.

Maradona was the best player of his generation but that doesn't mean he should be given golden ball in 1990 or 1994

Gotze diiiickck would be getting it's reward