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cckris:
Rumour?
So all Arab nations have been fighting to conquer RUMOUR for the past CENTURY! Still there are VERIFIABLE MIRACLES being done by Jesus till this moment.

miracles like?



arab fighting to conquer what? tell me two arab countries fighting..

cckris:
Genesis 1:1-3 Jesus of Nazareth is the Word of God that creates stuff.
Genesis 3:15 Jesus of Nazareth is the Seed of woman. Biology class tells that women carry egg, not seed or sperm.
John 1:14 The Word of God become Flesh.
Christ Jesus then FULFILLED over 300 prophecies of the Old Testament concerning Him as the Messiah.

who wrote the Genesis?

who wrote John?

let's talk about authenticity of the writer before dabbling into the verse

cckris:
Luke was a Greek, qualified Medical Doctor, who methodically questioned eyewitnesses, Luke 1:1-3.
Banning the Bible is futile, because, Christianity actually THRIVES under persecution. Russia & China have better Christians today than Europe.

each Bible writer got a job..

they suddenly decided to write history of Jesus right?

by asking eye witnesses huh?

eyewitness of over 600yrs event.. that's cool

Scholar8200:
Do the mathematics yourself. Besides, the clarification of how it was written and compiled as given by others previously should be of help.




Should you repeat this question, I would not answer.

laughing... like I always say.. your choice to choose what you want to believe..
all I have to do is show you the truth

cckris:
Read the Bible for yourself, research anyhow you like, in any language of your choice. Christianity started on the Day of Pentecost, declared in many languages, & since the Day, the Word of God is made available to cover the earth as the waters cover the sea, just as Old Testament prophets prophesied.
[/b]Sweet, Edifying, Liberating, Healing, & Saving unto eternity.
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laughing and rolling on the floor...


this is serious.. Una never tire of lies..


beside your John 3:16 was never said by Jesus..

because the whole Bible is like a rumor.. it has little truth..




read gospel of Barnabas and be saved..



your choice

Scholar8200:
Read this quote from a thread and note the dates:

Now the "Waldensian," or "Vaudois" Bibles stretch from about 157 to the 1400s AD. The fact is, according to John Calvin's successor Theodore Beza, that the Vaudois received the Scriptures from missionaries of Antioch of Syria in the 120s AD and finished translating it into their Latin language by 157 AD. This Bible was passed down from generation, until the Reformation of the 1500s, when the Protestants translated the Vaudois Bible into French, Italian, etc. This Bible carries heavy weight when finding out what God really said. John Wesley and Jonathan Edwards believed, as most of the Reformers, that the Vaudois were the descendants of the true Christians, and that they preserved the Christian faith for the Bible-believing Christians today.

how many years after Jesus death.. simple question

truthman2012:
Trash !!!

There is no truth in what you presented. That Jesus was not killed is a lie from the pit of hell.


I know you are not capable of answering the questions. But try and answer only this one:

Many prophets were killed, some of them disgracefully, why did allahh not allow Jesus to die like other prophets?

Don't dodge this question with abuse as usual.

this is serious .. how many times will i answer the question..


I will answer it again..




so you believe Jesus didn't die nor crucified?



well, the answer to your rhetorical question is Allah's plan..



Gospel of Barnabas already explained all those questions you have.


answer to your question, gospel of Barnabas explained, why, how and when and aftermath..


go read all my post on gospel of Barnabas

Scholar8200:
The highlighted is very wrong.

correct me then. we are here to learn

med Mukhthar YacoobJesus has never heard of the Bible, neither does Jesus know that you call him Jesus because the letter "J" is a modern invention dating back 500 years. Bible (NT) has been banned in China and Israel and 48 other countries! A conservative figure for the number of authors of the Bible today stands at least 300. Bible was written by unknown men 399 years after Jesus ascended, and you willrealise I used the word "ASCENDED" because the words"CRUCIFICTION" AND "TRINITY" has been removed by topChristians from all "NEW PRINT BIBLES" and the word"CRUCIFIXION" was replaced with the word "ASCENSION" (by karo93: 9:19pm On Feb 24, 2010). Catholic Church collected only 27 books and discarded over 273 books, canonized it and wrongly called it the "WORDS OF GOD".After I brought it to the world's attention that my studies revealed a total of 300 author's for the Bible, Christians scrambled and manged to list at least 50 authors only, some names belonging to Prophets of Allah who came long before Jesus arrived, although the Injeel was revealed to Jesus only (during his mundane lifetime), the closest to which would have been the Gospel of Jesus, which Christians claim cannot be found. My determinationof Bible Authors included the people who had made the slightest change in the Bible to date. 18% of Truth in 82% Corrupt Bible correlates with Quran and proves the lies of the Bible. It can be be claimed that Jesus allowedpeople to worship him, and it also can be claimed that Jesus ate human meat, BUT WHAT CANNOT BE CLAIMED IS THAT JESUS SAID "WORSHIP ME!" and whatcannot be denied is that Jesus said "OF MY OWN WILL ICAN DO NOTHING!"

Jesus never read the Bible..... SO YOU MUST NOT BELIEVE IN IT..


if you insist in believing in Bible, THEN YOU MUST BELIEVE IN GOSPEL OF BARNABAS... at least both of them are history about Jesus..... read Bible and gospel of Barnabas and you will find the loop holes..



jesus no read Bible or approve it
Jesus no go church
he no pay tithes
he no claim to be god
he no claim to be begotten son of god
he no preach Trinity


All he preached is that, THERE'S ONLY ONE GOD.
AND HE SAID HE CAME TO FULFILL THE LAW OF MOSES..

truthman2012:
You are small boy and that is why your reasoning is puerile.

I expect you to know that the quran that gave you the idea that Jesus didn't die is satanic falsehood. In one verse it said Jesus died and in another it said he didn't.

Why did allaah have to save Jesus and allowed other prophets to die?

Why was Muhammad, allahh greatest prophet allowed to eat poison as a result of which he died? Why didn't he save him like he did for Jesus.

Why was Jesus so special to allahh that he had to deceive the people by substituting him with somebody to be killed?

Answer those questions one by one and see where you will land.

this is serious.. I have always say i will only answer to reasonable questions..


about the death of Prophet Muhammad (saw)... Why don't you ask Allah why you are not born by Otedola or Buhari?.... / if you have working brains.. you will know what we call fate.. simply means events we (humans) have no control over.. Only Allah has the control.


if your biblical Jesus is so great, why did he leave town when the jews wanna kill him? If he's so great why didn't he wait for them and preach love and peace to them



And what happened to Jesus isn't the first.. he's not the first prophet to be risen to Allah..

and you saying why did Allah let other prophet die.. that's HIS plan.. Jesus will be back, will destroy all crucifix or crosses, will destroy anti Christ (dajaal)... among many other work we will come to do.. that's Allah's choice for him..





mind you, Allah is not a deceiver... Allah substituting and your confusion on the crucifixion has been explained by gospel of Barnabas..


it's your choice to accept the truth or reject it.. all am to do is show you the truth.. which i have..

truthman2012:
Try harder, Jesus is Lord. You have no good knowledge of the Bible.

Jesus of the quran said:

And peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I am
raised to life." (Qura 19:33).

The very same phrase is used of John the Baptist (Yahya) just a
few verses earlier:

"So Peace is on him The
day he was born, The day
that he dies, And that day
he Will be raised To life" (Quran 19:15)

Meaning Jesus died as John died.

Islam is purely satanic confusion by saying Jesus didn't die.

chai.. this is serious



I posted Bible verse.. instead of you to prove me wrong with the same Bible..


you quoting Quran..

haa.. you are stack illiterate dude..

Aregbe wants to drain Osun dry.. always scheming plans that will get him more money..


he's governor, he's commissioner, he's chairman, he's councillor..


you sha will leave the post one day..

carry on

parisbookaddict:
The bible was not written in a day. It was not even compiled in a day.

I am sure u are not even aware its a collection of thousands of years of Jewish history as well as the withness accounts of Christ disciples written as early as 30 years(as evidence suggests) after the events of the new testament with mark being the earliest.

Even the bible was complied centuries before the birth of mohammed 600 years after Christ.

U can use google and educate urself.

laughing... wahala wa o..

parisbookaddict:
Wow.. An ignorant muslim here. Everyone knows the gOspel of barnabas is on the same level with crap in the quran. Its an anachronistic apocryphal book and well know forgery written in Europe of all places.

Please explain how the bible is 6OO years after Jesus. Let's see which level of al taqiyya u will use.

Hold on let me call some of ur friends. Empiree rilwanye .. this should be interesting.

let me assume am Wrong..


when was Bible written

malvisguy212:
600 years after the death of jesus ? And the quran was written during the time of jesus ? What a confuse muslim.600 years after the death of jesus ? And the quran was written during the time of jesus ? What a confuse muslim.

chai.. who's talking about Quran here? why are you always going off point.. can't you just sit, reason, think, write and correct before you post??




Gospel of Barnabas and Bible is in question here..


you said gospel of Barnabas is fake due to its year..400yrs after Jesus


Bible is 600 years after Jesus..


so... you choose which one to believe..


your choice

cckris:
Christ Jesus alone is the CORNERSTONE & FOUNDATION of Christianity.

If you can. prove your point right.. am really ready to listen to you

Can all these pillars of Christianity can be found in Bible and interpreted without doubt that it really meant what the pillars stand for?


The question now is when was Bible written?
Who wrote the Bible?




Is there any other written scripture or history about Jesus?










If there's, have you ever read it or study it and compare with Bible?

Jesus started preaching at the age of 12 .. And he died /ascended to Creator around 35.


35-12 = 23


that means he preached the word of Creator for good 23 years..

First is to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior


Second is to believe Jesus is son of God / God / Holy Spirit (there's diversity in this belief)

Third is to believe in Bible

Fourth is to be attending Church

Fifth is to be paying Tithe regularly..

malvisguy212:
this little boy, you are one of the confuse muslim I've ever seen on nairaland. You say the crucifixion is a forgery because all of jesus disciples were not present, they flee. But you believe in the gospel of barannabas, which is written 400 years before christ was crucified. Did barnnabas witness the event ? The quran mention the crucifixion story, did muhammed witness the event also ? If you believe muhammed receive it through revelation. Is it not how the disciples receive their revelation also ?

laughing hysterically... You are a definition of foolishness.



Let me ask you a simple question..


Gospel of Barnabas = 400 years after Jesus death right?

Bible = 600 years after the death of Jesus.



which one has the more believable probability??

cckris:
Extraordinarily brilliant Apostle Paul wrote by himself. Luke, the Medical Doctor, wrote like a scientist that he was. You want try?

WATS this one saying

Source :



This Research Topic was carried out by Aliu Saheed Adeshina with Matric Number 13/MCH/1232, Osun State Polytechnic Iree.

This research give the following recommendations:

As the fourth pillar of democracy, the media should hold the government accountable for ensuring religious freedom and for protecting the rights of religious communities, including their right to build places of worship and to practice their faith.

Media outlets can at least help reduce prevailing ignorance between religious communities, by reporting more about the lives and the beliefs of the different communities they serve. Ignorance, the chief source of mutual suspicion and intolerance, allows extremist elements in all religions to exploit the fear.


Media outlets need to build their own tradition of reporting better about the faiths and the religious communities in their respective societies, avoid malicious stereotyping and perpetuating prejudices that one group has about the other.

The media needs to give more space to the voices of moderation that speak of peace and less to the fear-mongering radical and extremist groups.

In societies where people build their lives around observation of religious rituals, as in Nigeria, the media must do a better job in reflecting this reality and not only report about religion when there are tensions or conflicts.

The media would do a much better job in covering society if newsroom staff reflected as much as possible the ethnical, racial and religious diversity.

Finally, by practicing good journalism, the media would help to build better understanding between religious communities. It can encourage religious communities to collaborate and work together in addressing common challenges.

cc: OAM4J

Peace journalism was developed by Johan Galtung.





A Norwegian scholar in 1970. Also known as Galtung`s Peace Journalism initiatives it was propounded to tackle the traditional journalism penchant for promoting conflict and war.






He argued that by taking an advocacy, interpretative approach, the peace journalist concentrates on stories that highlights peace initiatives; tone down ethnic and religious differences, prevent further conflict, focus on the structure of society; and promote conflict resolution, reconstruction and reconciliation, Ozohu-Suleiman (2013).Peace journalism is a kind of journalism that focuses on restoration of peace rather than promoting violence.




It is a brand of journalism that gives recognition to people who condemn violence. Howard (2003), states thata peace journalist applies conflict analysis and searches for new voices and ideas about the conflict. A peace journalist takes no side but is engaged in the search for solutions as well as chooses his/her words carefully.



Peace journalism also abhors only reporting what divides the sides in conflict as well as words like terrorist, extremist or fanatic. These languages portray journalists as taking sides and making the other side seem impossible to negotiate with, which directly or indirectly prolongs the conflict. In this regard, a journalist that is conflict sensitive will identify and label people what they call themselves either before the emergence of the conflict or during the conflict.



2.14 RELEVANCE OF GANDHI TO THE SOCIETY


Gandhi's concepts which advocate for change of attitudes and behaviors‟ in the coverage and framing of conflicts/war and truth and rationalty should be adopted in this study to serve as reference point for media houses in the World.



According to Gandhi, "As soon as we lose the moral basis,we cease to be religious. There is no such thing as religion overriding morality.


Man, for instance, cannot be untruthful, cruel or incontent and claim to have God on his side".





Media should advocate moral decadence as human fault not religious fault. A good example is terrorism organization acclaimed to be of Islam, and also the KKK terrorism organization acclaimed to Christianity, media should have counter the claims of those terrorism organizations instead of fueling the conflicts within religious issues.



And other stake holders to adopting a paradigm shift of creating the atmosphere for peace instead of focusing on war and conflict.



Researchers and experienced journalists have spent time suggesting how the media might shift from war to peace correspondence in covering conflicts.



While the suggestion is right step in the right direction, the assumption of this study is that media can create the needed atmosphere for peace and tolerance through having programmes on peace without waiting for conflict to erupt before engaging in peace building.

media be like

Let's stop accepting trash and lies from media.. If media refuses to change, let's change ourselves...




whenever you see or hear media or anybody blaming any religion on people devilish act.. STAND FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS AND CORRECT THEM FROM SUCH WRONG IMPRESSION MEDIA HAS BEEN FEEDING THEM

My point is, DO NOT BLAME RELIGION FOR MAN DEVILISH OR EVIL ACT.. BLAME MAN FOR MAN'S MISTAKES..

I believe that no religion on earth supports terrorism or unjust killings...



According to Mahatma Gandhi




"GANDHI’S THEORY


Gandhism is a body of ideas and principles that describes the inspiration, vision and the life work of Mohandas Gandhi.



It is particularly associated with his contributions to the idea of nonviolent resistance, sometimes also called civil resistance. The two pillars of "Gandhism" were truth and non-violence.



However, Gandhi did not approve of 'Gandhism', as he explained:


"After long study and experience, I have come to the conclusion that all religions are true all religions have some error in them; all religions are almost as dear to me as my own Hinduism, in as much as all human beings should be as dear to one as one's own close relatives. My own veneration for other faiths is the same as that for my own faith; therefore no thought of conversion is possible.



Gandhi believed that at the core of every religion was truth "satya", non-violence "ahimsa" and the Golden Rule”.
"Thus if I could not accept Christianity either as a perfect, or the greatest religion, neither was I then convinced of Hinduism being such.



Hindu defects were pressingly visible to me. If untouchability could be a part of Hinduism, it could but be a rotten part or an excrescence. I could not understand the raison d'etre of a multitude of sects and castes. What was the meaning of saying that the Vedas were the inspired Word of God? If they were inspired, why not also the Bible and the Koran?



As Christian friends were endeavouring to convert me, so were Muslim friends. Abdullah Sheth had kept on inducing me to study Islam, and of course he had always something to say regarding its beauty"



.
He then went on to say:



"As soon as we lose the moral basis, we cease to be religious. There is no such thing as religion over riding morality.












Man, for instance, cannot be untruthful, cruel or incontinent and claim to have God on his side".







Gandhi was critical of the hypocrisy in organised religion, rather than the principles on which they were based.
Later in his life when he was asked whether he was a Hindu, he replied:





"Yes I am. I am also a Christian, a Muslim, a Buddhist and a Jew".

TruthHurts1:
First of all, Let me say that I have read the so-called fiction of Barnabas, which was written 400 years after the crucifixion took place.

Any one with even a modicum of basic intelligence would know at once that a document which was written about an event which happened 400 years before such document came into existence cannot be relied upon as an accurate REAL-TIME account of that event.

Sadly, only you Abeeds with your low IQs would fall for such stu.pidity.

Speaking of which, an American company recently organised a training event for some Saudi Arabian pilots. Part of the training involved mandatory IQ tests and these poor muslims failed woefully. Maybe the real reason why the Saudi pilots in the 9/11 terror attacks crashed their planes is not because they were terrorists but because they were idi.ots. Sigh. Read the following article and learn:

Muslims suffer insanity, low IQ, recessive disorders from 1400 years inbreeding
Biological fallout from 50 generations of first cousin marriages

from a Lockheed employee in Saudi Arabia.

During the pilot transition program with the KV-107 and C-130 with Lockheed, we found that most Saudi pilot trainees had very limited night vision, even on the brightest of moonlit nights.

Their training retention rate was minimal including maintenance personnel. Some had dim memories and had to be constantly reminded of things that were told to them the day before. An American, British or any other western instructor is burned out pretty quick. It actually took Muslim C-130 pilots years before they could fly in the dark safely and then would be reluctant to leave the lights of a city.

Ask any Marine, Air Force or Army guy who’s been trying to train Iraqis, and especially Afghans. Islam is not only a religion; it’s a way of life all the way around. Yet another set of revealing facts about Muslim beliefs and traditions and ways of life. 1400 years of inbreeding.

Nikolai Sennels is a Danish psychologist who has done extensive research into a little-known problem in the Muslim world: the disastrous results of Muslim inbreeding brought about by the marriage of first cousins. This practice, which has been prohibited in the Judeo-Christian tradition since the days of Moses, was sanctioned by Muhammad and has been going on now for 50 generations (1,400 years) in the Muslim world.

This practice of inbreeding will never go away in the Muslim world, since Muhammad is the ultimate example and authority on all matters, including marriage.

The massive inbreeding in Muslim culture may well have done virtually irreversible damage to the Muslim gene pool, including extensive damage to its intelligence, sanity, and health. According to Sennels, close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred. In Pakistan, the numbers approach 70%. Even in England, more than half of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins, and in Denmark the number of inbred Pakistani immigrants is around 40%.

The numbers are equally devastating in other important Muslim countries: 67% in Saudi Arabia, 64% in Jordan, and Kuwait, 63% in Sudan, 60% in Iraq, and 54% in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

According to the BBC, this Pakistani, Muslim-inspired inbreeding is thought to explain the probability that a British Pakistani family is more than 13 times as likely to have children with recessive genetic disorders. While Pakistanis are responsible for three percent of the births in the UK, they account for 33% of children with genetic birth defects.

The risks of what are called autosomal recessive disorders such as cystic fibrosis, spinal muscular atrophy is 18 times higher, and the risk of death due to malformations is 10 times higher. Other negative consequences of inbreeding include a 100 percent increase in the risk of stillbirths and a 50% increase in the possibility that a child will die during labor.

Lowered intellectual capacity is another devastating consequence of Muslim marriage patterns. According to Sennels, research shows that children of consanguineous marriages lose 10-16 points off their IQ and that social abilities develop much slower in inbred babies. The risk of having an IQ lower than 70, the official demarcation for being classified as "retarded," increases by an astonishing 400 percent among children of cousin marriages. (Similar effects were seen in the Pharaonic dynasties in ancient Egypt and in the British royal family, where inbreeding was the norm for a significant period of time.)

In Denmark, non-Western immigrants are more than 300 percent more likely to fail the intelligence test required for entrance into the Danish army. Sennels says, "The ability to enjoy and produce knowledge and abstract thinking is simply lower in the Islamic world." He points out that the Arab world translates just 330 books every year, about 20% of what Greece alone does.

In the last 1,200 years of Islam, just 100,000 books have been translated into Arabic, about what Spain does in a single year. Seven out of 10 Turks have never even read a book. Sennels points out the difficulties this creates for Muslims seeking to succeed in the West. "A lower IQ, together with a religion that denounces critical thinking, surely makes it harder for many Muslims to have success in our high-tech knowledge societies."

Only nine Muslims have ever won the Nobel Prize, and five of those were for the "Peace Prize." According to Nature magazine, Muslim countries produce just 10 percent of the world average when it comes to scientific research measured by articles per million inhabitants.

In Denmark, Sennels’ native country, Muslim children are grossly over represented among children with special needs. One-third of the budget for Danish schools is consumed by special education, and anywhere from 51% to 70% of retarded children with physical handicaps in Copenhagen have an immigrant background. Learning ability is severely affected as well. Studies indicated that 64% of schoolchildren with Arabic parents are still illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system. The immigrant dropout rate in Danish high schools is twice that of the native-born.

Mental illness is also a product. The closer the blood relative, the higher the risk of schizophrenic illness. The increased risk of insanity may explain why more than 40% of patients in Denmark’s biggest ward for clinically insane criminals have an immigrant background. The U.S. is not immune. According to Sennels, "One study based on 300,000 Americans shows that the majority of Muslims in the USA have a lower income, are less educated, and have worse jobs than the population as a whole."

Sennels concludes: There is no doubt that the wide spread tradition of first cousin marriages among Muslims has harmed the gene pool among Muslims. Because Muslims’ religious beliefs prohibit marrying non-Muslims and thus prevents them from adding fresh genetic material to their population, the genetic damage done to their gene pool since their prophet allowed first cousin marriages 1,400 years ago are most likely massive. This has produced overwhelming direct and indirect human and societal consequences.

Bottom line: Islam is not simply a benign and morally equivalent alternative to the Judeo-Christian tradition. As Sennels points out, the first and biggest victims of Islam are Muslims.

Simple Judeo-Christian compassion for Muslims and a common-sense desire to protect Western civilization from the ravages of Islam dictate a vigorous opposition to the spread of this dark and dangerous ideology.


http://cairnsnews.org/2015/09/30/muslims-suffer-insanity-low-iq-recessive-disorders-from-1400-years-inbreeding/

gospel of was written 400 years after crucifixion abi



when was Bible written Abeg #laughing#

omololu2020:
Men allah go wicked gan o

is justice an act of wickedness?