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Girl your mouth bad oh, ha ha.

Why don't you post on his fb timeline instead of hacking his account.

quid: Don't worry. When the fulanis wipe out Gowons village and burn down everything else in plateau state, Gowon will become wiser after 50 years.

As for Tinubu, he will end up politically paralyzed like Awo his godfather.

Like ojukwu, Gowon could care less if they wiped out Plateau State. His family is intact the way ojukwu's family was intact after the stu.pid war where thousands of ibos died of hunger. ojukwu and his property fighting children were all over fat while million of biafrans were dying of hunger.

Any compare Tinubu to Awolowo. Tinubu like ojukwu only has his only interest not the interest of the people.

demelza: Mafikizolo - Khona

Thanks so much but I have another question and I will glad if you can help with the answer. There is song like the "Kona" song but for most part of the song its just instrumental with drums. Thank you.

@ litelov

I appreciate your responses to my posts.

Yes Lagos is the major city in Nigeria and it's in Yoruba land. There are Yoruba people in ibo land but in the migratory nature of the ibos you find more ibos in Yoruba land than yorubas in ibo land although I have no statistics to back this up. Like the example I gave in my previous post of where the Abia State Government laid off Imo State indigines in their workforce. Yorubas know the folly of looking for jobs in ibo land because it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a Yoruba man to get a job in ibo land. Yorubas would rather go to the Northern region than go to ibo land because he knows the Northerners are more open and straight forward than ibo people.

The Northerners have the lowest literacy index in Nigeria. They mostly stay back and look for work in their home states or go to Abuja to look for jobs in to Federal parastatals which they have a better chance of getting than ibos and Yorubas because of the quota system. That makes it possible for Northerners who scores 15% to gain admission or jobs than an ibo who scores 80% or a Yoruba who scores 70% which are some of the only areas where I agree with chinua achebe in his book. Yes it breeds mediocrity.

I agree with you on Sir Ahmadu Bello's interview but I don't see how that will check the progress of other regions. Also I totally agree with him than the ibos want to monopolise everything. When Prof. Kenneth Dike was the Vice Chancellor of University of Ibadan (Yoruba land), there were about 120 ibo staff and less than 15 Yoruba staff. Kindly read Akintola's speech again carefully. When the expatriate GOC (Major Gen. Everald) of the Nigerian Army was leaving he recommended Brig. Babafemi Ogundipe (Yoruba) but the Government of the day went for seniority and chose Major Gen. Aguiyi Ironsi instead contrast that to the VC of the University of Ibadan, when they chose Prof. Kenneth Dike (ibo) and not Prof. Olubamiro (Yoruba) who was the most senior Nigerian Professor then. Why did use two different criteria which favoured the ibos?

On the Coup. You are Police Officer. Do you argue with a man who hands are on the trigger? Hassan Katsina never supported the coup in any way. Nzeogwu would have shot and killed Hassan Katina if he had said he not with them. The Northerner Officers' grouse with Katsina Hassan was that he had agreed to serve in Aguiyi Ironsi who they erroneously thought sanctioned the coup that had killed their leaders and senior Military Officers. Actually Hassan Katsina and Muhammadu Shuwa even had to run away from their troops for trying to stop the killing of ibos in July 1966. Fredrick Forsyth is a good friend of ojukwu so be discerning when you read his book on biafra. There were some officers who foiled the January 15, 1966 coup yet were been hounded during the July 29, 1966 coup. There was no political alliance in the January 15, 1966 coup. If there was any alliance it would be an ibo, ibo and ibo alliance. The coup plotters perfectly knew what they were doing. The same way the July 29, 1966 coup plotters knew only one thing; REVENGE. Actually the July 29, 1966 was more of a mutiny than a coup. Muritala Mohammed had actually told the other coup plotters to back down not knowing the Northerners NCOs in Abeokuta had set the ball rolling. On the killing of women and children is totally condemn-able. Like i mentioned earlier, Katsina Hassan and Muhammadu Shuwa who tried to stop the killing of ibos by their solidiers had to eventually run away to avoid been killed by them. The July 29, 1966 coup plotters could not get to ojukwu because of the responsible act of the Commander in Enugu, Lt. Colonel David Ogunewe who was able to convince the Ibo and Northerner Officers live together but ojukwu like obasanjo had said about the civil war, he was the only who put down the coup. ojukwu who himself had abandoned Enugu for Onitsha while he told Brig. Ogundipe to hang in there.

When the Niger Deltans wanted to pull out of the Eastern Region what did ojukwu and Aguiyi Ironsi? I sincerely need an answer from you.

I don't hate ibos. I only hate the " We are smart others are foolish" attitude of the ibos. Yoruba people are very educated, liberal and accommodating people. They do to us what they cannot do to the Northerners. That is why a prominent ibo son, Orji Uzor Kalu (former Governor of Abia State) said " Lagos is no man's land". Can he say Kano, Kaduna or Maiduguri is no man' land? I sincerely feel pity for the ibos for the suffering before, during and after the biafran war but anybody who calls ojukwu a hero would never get any pity from me.

@ Litelov,

Dont compare America in 2001 and Northerner Nigeria in 1966. In any case the issues are inversely similar. Do you want to compare a police officer's training in America to Nigerian police officer's training. About three (3) weeks ago on the streets of Lagos I saw a police officer pointing a pistol @ a driver over a traffic offense. Police Officers who kill innocent and harmless Nigerians everyday. Imagine the case of 22 year old boy who was killed in Bayelsa State. The Police said the boy tried to disarm 3 Police Officers with AK-47.

Which Mr. Bello are you referring to? Is the Ahmadu Bello who had been shot by Major Nzeogwu? Every time you put up an argument you sound like the ibos. The ibos don't employ the Northerners yet you expect Sir Ahmadu Bello to employ ibo people. OK you can't deal with the fact that Sir Ahmadu Bello was not stupid.The ibos are the most self-centered group of people created by God. I would rather deal with a man who tells me from the beginning I stand no chance rather than a man who leads me on and he knows that the positions have been reserved for his own people. I thought you justified that the reason that the reason why they missed Zik was circumstantial and why Aguiyi Ironsi was not at home when they went for him. Even a 10 year old with be discerning more enough. The ibos started the coups out of their we must dominate and the pattern of killing of the first coup. Violence begets violence. When the cunning cantankerous coward, ojukwu sent troops to Lagos? for a tea party after the atrocities biafran soldiers had committed in the neutral Mid-western. Biafran had been the first to throw bombs in lagos at Palm Grove and Cinema area. The last time I check Gowon never stayed in Palm Grove and Cinema but in Dodan Barracks. ibos always the first but when others do theirs it is genocide and ethnic cleansing. The useless ojukwu who refused land corridor to enable to them feed his people. Yet our highly respected chinua achebe would justify such actions in his book after all their children never went hungry during the stu.pid war.

Where was Aguiyi Ironsi's mother from? Have you heard the name Olushola Saraki? Olushola Saraki is a Yoruba name but that man before he died always claimed he was a Northerner. Why? Politics

tomakint: ....and where did you see me quoting 'debetmx' said this or that? Get well soon bro, the journey is still ahead and if I have the chance I may dig out ur old posts

Answer the questions I raised and stop been mischievous.

@ Litelov,

I totally understand you but you don't seem to understand many things. There is a Yoruba saying that "the ones you don't understand are more than the ones you understand" which clearly applies to your case. I want a situation where I can go to any state in Nigeria and become Governor or vie for elective post if I can articulate better ideas. Even only America just had its first black president in 2009. Go back again and listen to Sir Ahmadu Bello's interview and listen to every word he said. What he was saying in essence was that other regions don't employ their own people (Northerners) yet other regions want to take up positions in the North especially the ibos of course. Read again the first paragraph of Akintola's speech that ibos are shouting one Nigeria because they want to take up positions in the West yet the ibos WOULD NEVER employ our own people. Why should Sir Ahmadu Bello employ ibos who will not employ his own people? NO WHY? See if you don't live with this people you will never understand what we saying and not what you read on the internet. The average ibo man thinks of only himself and himself only especially does who grew up in the east like chinua achebe. I challenge ibos worldwide that how many Yorubas and Hausas have been elected in to elective positions in ibo land. There are about two ibo commissioners in the West (Yoruba land) but that will never happen in ibo land. Yet you want me to go on with one Nigeria. Is the interest of ibos more paramount to that of other ethnic groups? The Publicity Secretary of the ACN (the major Yoruba party) Joe Igbokwe is ibo. In APGA (the major ibo party) is any Yoruba man holding any position their? Please why should I give my property to somebody who will not give his?

If you read my previous post on the deportation of ibos you will notice i said the actions of the Governor was totally irresponsible. In a sane country the Governor would have been impeached. Nigeria is way backward like 500 years behind the western world. Governor Peter Obi (ibo) who wrote to the President to protest the deportation of those destitutes himself had done the same thing some months back. The Lagos State Government had deported Osun State citizens and no nobody heard anything about it, Anambra State (ibo) had deported people nobody heard anything about it but when they deport their own people they go to the roof tops to shout their usual line "they don't like ibos". This things happen everyday and its very wrong. I could still remember amongst the ibos, the Abia State Government (ibo) had laid off Imo state (ibo) indigines in their workforce. I'm sure you never heard about it but if for example Lagos State Government done the same thing it would be all over the internet. The ibos would use every opportunity to tell you they don't like them even if 4 years old children fight in school.

The July 29, 1966 coup was done to revenge the January 15, 1966 coup and pull the Northerners of Nigeria but when power came back to the Northerners through Gowon they backed down. The same reason which made ojukwu who selfishly supported Aguiyi Ironsi's unitary system of government which would have consolidated the ibos' domination of Nigeria now demanded confederacy because power had shifted back to the Northerners. When Ironsi was the Head of State, ojukwu openly supported unified system of government but when Gowon ascended the throne he changed the tone of his music. ojukwu in his lifetime only supported what will benefit him and not the general well being of humanity. His own interest is more important the interests of Nigerians or his ill advised and ego and ambition driven biafra. The Northerners had started killing ibos in May 1966 but ojuwku advised his people to go back to the North because his brother (Aguiyi Ironsi) was still in power.

You stated that the West are only interested in their own gain. What was ojukwu interested in? What are our selfish leaders interested in? Do you think if Gowon had abdicated the throne to ojukwu on May 30 1967 he would have declared secession? Listen to Bob Marley's song "War".

On your assertion that "the British never liked the ibos", you must have been reading and believing too much of chinua achebe's biafran, "ibolistic" and self serving book "There was a country, the personal history of biafra". Go read the book that the colonial administrators wrote about Nigeria and what they said about each the three major ethnic groups and hear from the horse's mouth and not what a man who is promoting his own ethnic group is saying and the propaganda inherent.

The problem is ourselves. Is the Western world the problem in Zimbabwe? Am sure Bob Marley must have turned in his grave now.

tomakint: @litelov, you are indeed an intellectual with a class! I have fought against my brothers (the Yorubas) here on this hotly debated topic but all to no avail I was branded a 'bastard' for no just cause! It still beats my imagination that some so-called 'intellectuals' here still call that Jan. 15 Coup, 'Igbo Coup', here was a coup (especially the one led by Kaduna Nzeogwu) that had northern officers as partakers, one name that came to mind was one Col. Kpera who eventually became military Gov.

What the bleep are you saying? i never said the January 15, 1966 was an "ibo coup". Even Major. Nzeogwu himself said "Ethnic Consideration" was the reason the coup failed in Lagos

What was Kpera's rank as at January 15, 1966? When was he informed about the coup? Was he among the planners of the coup?

@ litelov,

Thank you for replying to my posts.

I must tell you my best friend is ibo. I don't hate ibo people. I hate self-centeredness of the average ibo. I am a christian and a Yoruba from Osun State. I'm equally against oppression, terrorism, ethnic cleansing, genocide and violence of any kind. I must say you are naive. Very very naive. You think Africa is like America. Africa is way backward. Like cKaiser explained to you in a previous post, In Nigeria your ethnic group classification isnt as a result of your place of birth but ibos been the "only smart ones" after Nzeogwu had killed Sir Ahmadu Bello is now a Northerner, so a Northerner killed a Northerner. You will never understand these things if you dont stay in Nigeria.

1) I never recalled stating that the January 15, 1966 was an ibo coup. Actually they had killed an ibo officer (Lt Colonel Arthur Unegbe who was the Quartermaster General of the NA) too. Who was going to pay for the information you made allusions to?

2) Of course, there were always rumuors of coups. Gowon was told to investigate the January 15, 1966 coup not an impending coup. Aguiyi Ironsi wanted a united Country yet he went about promoting only ibo officers and promulgated the unitary system of Government to consolidate the ibos's domination of Nigeria.

Nigerians are clueless?

Please what is the name of that South African song and the Artiste "Kona" and also there is another song for most part was just instrumental?

he said that many of our Yoruba people compare our country to USA and UK claiming since it was done in those countries it should be done same way in Nigeria. and the Ibo Alakuko have been using their Newspapers to promote their agenda and Yorubas trying to act sophisticated dont trust their parents again rather they believe Nigeria should be like US and UK, Nigeria is not like US and UK

He said one of the Ibo leaders claimed he believed Ibos are special breed of people who are designed to Lord over other Nigerians.

Count how many Yorubas are in Eastern parts heading parastatals? Now compare that to Ibos heading such stuffs in North and the West. Why do they want to Lord it over all.

He said in Ibadan, Arabs and Lebanese were sent away from trading yet the NCNC made sure it was Ibos that took over the whole markets in Ibadan, that our wives in Ibadan cant even get stalls to trade.

All Nigerians ambasadors to London, Paris, Moscow, New York are all Ibos through their alliance with the Hausas.

This election is for the future of your children, This is not about Akintola or Awolowo this is about the future of your children.

Recently Michael Okpara came out to list the achievement of Federal Govt in the Eastern region. He listed the Cement company in Nkalagu, the Coal in Enugu where thousands of their children are getting jobs while our own qualified children cant get jobs

The 2 VC of the University in Lagos and UI are both Ibos. Are they saying of all the educated people in Abeokuta for more than 100yrs none is educated enough to head?

You might ask why is the top position important its because due to their nature, the first in command is Ibo, he would ensure second in command, third in command till fifteenth in command is his tribesman till all the commands are finished

(c) dayokanu

@ Litelov, Let me produce the translated speech of Akintola in English

"NCNC would come here and shout One Nigeria, One country, One destiny whereas its Okechukwu Ikejiani that would be getting all the benefits.

They said you want to sell out to the Hausas How many hausas have you seen coming to Ibadan, Lagos or AKure to take all the jobs and opportunities

Those of you listening to me from Ibadan from Lagos from Okitipupa that you are speaking English. We want a country where everyone has equal benefits.

If you say some Yorubas have stakes like Akinfosile, DM Johnson and TOS Benson. Ask yourself how many of them are in influential portfolios

Go to Akinfosiles town in Okitipupa and check what he has done there? Nothing!! Ibos would never put you where you can benefit your people.

DM Johnson they put him in charge of Labour where he would always be at logger heads with the workers that he had to resign.

See the issue of TOS Benson despite Sobowale spending his fortune on the party after a while they put Moronu there to rival him as an assistant

This is not between Awolowo and Akintola, dont set your house on fire because of the houserat. .because Awolowo know the Ibos more than anyone of you.

Even if you hate Akintola, would you hate your children and your generations future? They are chasing your children from Universities, from govt work, from market stalls and all you keep saying is its Akintola vs Awolowo.

They said we want to sell you to Hausas but when they have been with Hausas for the past 10 years getting all the juicy positions in this country and even in your ancestral homelands Hausas were not bad then. If you get here Ugochukwu, go there, Nwachukwu, go there Mbadiwe and youre still going on aout Akintola vs Awolowo.

If you want to know about Ibos go and ask NCNC chieftains in your town. If youre from Ilesha go ask Olowokere about NCNC, If youre in Ife go ask Fani Kayode, If you are from Oyo go ask Pa Afolabi, Would you know Sango more than Sango priests

(c) dayokanu

Continuation;

After God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit the next person after Mandela than I respect is Fela and not our god of men owning private jet owners like adeboye, oyedepo, okonkwo and many others. Are they going to tell us there is nothing wrong with Nigeria? Of course they see nothing wrong with Nigeria. Their gullible church members walk to church and pay tithe which they spend for God. The British PM flies BA. The Pope does not own a private jet. Suffering and smiling. achebe, lost my respect for him after his continuation of the biafran war 42 years after it had ended. Especially continuing with the war time propaganda and not setting the records straight. Ironsi has my respect but should never had taken over power and should have punished the January 15, 1966 coupist. Soyinka has been called all sorts of names by the ibos just because he said achebe is not the father of african literature. This is a man who spent 23 months in prison for the biafrans. A prime example how the ibos will only remember when they are in distress and discard you thereafter. Would achebe had done the same for Yoruba is the tables were turned. HELL NO. Fajuyi was the first Nigerian Soldier to win the Military Cross for an act of exemplary braveness. I that says a lot about him and before that useless old biafran soldier (dede1) slays me, it was not the Western Region who awarded him the medal.

ojukwu and Obasanjo are the greatest fraud in the history of Nigeria. They are two cowards who have tried to position themselves as heroes. ojukwu has succeeded in that regard with the actions of Northerners and in my opinion, gullibility of his people. Obasanjo has failed totally in that regard. Obasanjo who went to hide in his the house of a civilian when a junior Officer (Danjuma) foiled the coup and he became Head of State.

I totally agree ibos are not our problem but the ibos themselves are their own problems. SELF-CENTEREDNESS. If ojukwu (ibo) had reported Ifeajuna & Co (ibo) to the Military Headquarters their would never have been the biafran war. If Zik (ibo) had told the leaders of the other Regions to run too their would have been no violence to his people. If NCNC ministers (ibo) had not selfishly nominated Mbadiwe (ibo) as thierir choice of acting PM when they knew the NPC had more seats than them. If Nwafor Orizu (ibo) had not refused to hand over to Zanna Bukar Dipcharima but to Aguiyi Ironsi (ibo). If Aguiyi Ironsi (ibo) had not greedily taken over power which not the normal procedure. If Aguiyi Ironsi (ibo) hand not only promoted his own people while leaving out the other ethnic groups. If Aguiyi Ironsi (ibo) had punished the January 15, 1966 coup plotters (mostly ibos).

@ Litelov,

Your posts have shown you are either ibo posing as a foreigner or a foreigner with ibo blood in your veins.

During the January 15, 1966 the Ibo coupists went to the house of the most senior Hausa Officer they met him @ home, the ibo coupists went to the house of the most Yoruba Officer they met him @ home but when the ibo coupists went to the house of the most ibo officer they did not meet him @ home later that same man later became Head of State. ibo people think they are the only ones God gave an iota of brain and smarter than others. That is why you will tell me 47 years after that coup that the reason they missed Zik was circumstantial. The issue is that you ibos are just self-centered. Only yourselves and yourselves only. Yet you look @ issues from a non-tribal perspective. I am a christian like most ibo people and i would not support the killing of anyone whether you are ibo, Yoruba, English, German or any tribe for that matter.

You only made reference to Sir Ahmadu Bello. Have you listened to what Ladoke Akintola (The Premier of the Western Region who was killed by ibo officers during the January 15, 1966 coup) said about the ibos. It's all over youtube although the speech is in Yoruba. Although he made the speech in 1964/65, he could have made the same speech in May 1967 before the war and it would have been stupid of any Yoruba to support the ibos and if I may ask what happened to Yorubas who supported or fought on the part of the biafrans (Soyinka, Banjo, Adeleke and Ademoyega). The average ibo is an ungrateful person. You only matter to him when he is in distress or has problems. The moment his problem is solved you mean nothing to him again. Ibos, like I wrote in my previous post would never employ a Northerner unless as a gateman while the same ibo would expect you to employ his people as managers and directors. Never mention ojukwu again in the mold of Zik, Fela and Soyinka. ojukwu is nothing but a selfish power drunk coward whose only claim of legitimacy was the senseless killing of ibos by the Northerners nothing or more.

Awolowo said many years before independence that "Nigeria is not a nation but a mere geographical expression". Even if we part today, is that the end our problem. Remember among Aguleri & Umuleri, Ife & Modakeke and many more. Every tribe in Nigeria complains discrimination, in every State we hear discrimination, in every local government we hear discrimination.The Niger Deltans had demanded independence from the Eastern Region in February 1966. ojukwu and Aguiyi Ironsi quickly suppressed them and called their leader Adaka Boro a thug. Obviously the interests of the ibos is more paramount to that of any other ethnic group. When Gowon carried on from the precedence that ojukwu and Aguiyi Ironsi had laid they called it genocide, islamic jihad (as if Gowon, Danjuma, Joseph Garba, Akinrimade, Awolowo, Adekunle, Obasanjo & many more officers are not christians) and ethnic cleansing. The reason Zik had said before independence "that it was the ibos that was ordained by God to lead Nigeria to the promise land" Of course you will have no problem with that. Like the January 15, 1966 coupist, he is your fellow ibo. When southern Cameroon wanted to leave Nigeria, they conducted a plebiscite. Why did biafra not chart a similar path?

Tolexander: Let ojukwu rest in peace now!

emeka ojukwu, the cantankerous coward will, shall, would, can never rest in peace.

litelov: @debetmx

Thanks for your explanations. I must first say that I'm not supporting any tribe, be it Ibo or Hausa. I'm just seeing things from a fair point of view. The points you raised are interesting, but I have questions for you. Please educate me.

1) I read about the first coup in Nigeria, the five majors coup. Why is this coup called an Ibo coup when the leader of the coup was Mr kadunna, a man who was born and raised in the north? There is definitely something about the way you guys decide who is Ibo, Hausa and youroba that we non Nigerians don't understand. What's the criteria for deciding ones tribe? From what I gathered from Obasanjo's book on Mr kadunna, he was not what you people call core Ibo. Also, he took a handful of soldiers to Mr sokotos house. Were all these soldiers who aided him to kill sokoto all ibos? Weren't they all armed? From what I gathered they were predominantly northern Hausa. Actually I read a book from a northern Nigerian who in his account of the coup stated that it was a northern junior officer that killed Mr sokoto while he struggled with Mr kaduna.

2) if the ibos officers plan a coup and kill major northern officers, why didn't the north in their retaliation only limit their killings to Ibo officers? Why kill children, women, and Ibo civilians all over north. Even if you prove that the first coup was tribalistic, you must agree that the northern retaliatory coup was far worst. It was an ethnic cleansing!!!

2) where were the northern soldiers when kadunna was parading himself and granting interviews in the north after is coup? Where was babangida and danjuma? Why couldn't the fight kadunna if they were not part of the coup? Mr ironsi aressted kadunna after the coup. Was ironsi not Ibo? From what I gathered, it was the ibos, namely Mr ironsi, that foiled that coup. The fact that the the president was away during that coup was a circumstantail evidence, not enough to accuse him of being involved.

Before u answer my questions, let me tell you that all the coups ever done in Nigeria were backed by the same people who use Africans to kill Africans.

1) The planning of the coup was done by Nine (9) Majors namely Ifeajuna, Okafor, Ademoyega, Chukwuka, Chude Sokei, Obienu, Anuforo, Nzeogwu and Onwutuaegwu. Only Seven (7) actually took part in the execution. Chude Sokei was sent abroad for training so was unavailable and Obienu developed cold feet and failed to show upon on the morning of the coup. Major Emmanuel Arinze Ifeajuna was the leader of the coup not Major Chukwuma Nzeogwu. The biafran revisionist and propagandist have tried to ascribed the leadership of the coup to Nzeogwu because of the Kaduna in his name. If you don't believe me kindly read emeka ojukwu's book "Because I Am Involved". Nzeogwu was brought because they needed some to execute the coup in Kaduna, the Northern Region Capital the same they brought in Captain Nwobosi to do same in Ibadan, the Western Region Capital. Nzeogwu had always displayed anti-government inclinations so it was very easy to co-opt him. I would want to believe the "Kaduna" in his name was only a nick-name and not part the name his parents gave to him. 95% of officers and other ranks who took part in the January 15 1966 coup were ibos and besides Nzeogwu actually shot and killed Sergeant Oyeleke when he stopped loading the mortar which was used to blow the lodge of the Premier of the Northern Region. The book you read about the Northern officer who stated that it was a junior northerner officer who killed the Sardauna could not true because Nzeogwu stated himself that he killed Sir Ahmadu Bello and the video is on youtube.

2) I don't support and will never support the killing of innocent people who knew nothing about the coup of January 15, 1966 but true be told the actions of the ibo civilians were nothing to write home about. They openly celebrated the killing of the Northerners and used every opportunity to add salt to the injury of the Northerners and rub it on them. The average ibo man does not care about the feeling of others as long as everything is going fine for him and only remembers we should be our brother's keeper when he is at the receiving end. How many Israelites have the Arabs killed compared to the number of Arabs the Israelites have killed? Has it ever been commensurate?

3) Danjuma (a Christian) and Babangida were not serving in the North then, so I guess your question should have been directed to the cantankerous coward who was the commander of the 5th Battalion in Kano then. If ojukwu, who was Lt. Colonel could not raise troops to dislodge Major. Nzeogwu was it Captain Danjuma or Lt. Babangida who were going to do so? Before Lt. Colonel Conrad Nwawo (Nigerian Defence Attache in London) negotiated his surrender. Aguiyi Ironsi foiled the coup for his own personal gain which itself was a coup in another coup. Your point that the president been away during the coup was only circumstantial obviously shows where your allegiance lies. The president travelled in October 1965 to the Caribbeans, that his personal physician had to abandon him there and returned to Nigeria. The Commonwealth Head of States conference which was held outside the UK for the first time was not enough motivation for him to come back home. The waited the arrival of Sir Ahmadu Bello from Mecca but could not wait for the arrival of Nnamdi Azikwe. Of course he is ibo. The question is could they have missed Sir Ahmadu Bello or Sir Tafawa Balewa or Ladoke Akintola if any was on a medical trip or they would have postponed the operations for a more appropriate date that would guarantee and ensure an all inclusive kill?

4) Four (4) of the Northern military officers who took in part July 29, 1966 counter coup later became Nigeria's Head of State (Muritala, Buhari, Babangida and Abacha)

noblezone: Yet, you need us so much in Nigeria that the mere mention of Biafra brings out the venom in you!
You detest us, then you force us to stay in Nigeria and then slaughter us because you so detest us?

I have no problem with any ethnic group whether you are ibo or from my Yoruba ethnic group. I treat everybody on their own personal merit. I treat everybody the way I want the other person to treat me.

My only problem about biafra is that ojukwu had only used his people in his personal war of egos with Gowon and like I earlier stated I stand to be corrected and killing of the ibos by the northerners had only given ojukwu legitimacy amongst the ibos

madam_oringo: If you truly believe that, then I've got a mansion to sell you in the middle of the Atlantic! You ibos are blind and unable to see, someone cursed you and he must be a powerful witchdoctor. So if ibos were to be exterminated, was Ojukwu in a position to do anything about it? After biafra lost the war catastrophically, what stopped Nigeria from killing all the remaining ibos? How did Effiong and his commanders come in to Lagos and were allowed to live? Would a Hitler have allowed any of them to leave alive? Why not deceive them and shoot them all to death and finish off the few ibos left in the east if it was the aim of Nigeria to kill off all ibos? Well, I don't expect you to reason anyway, you people have your minds made up on lies!

Guy I must consult that witchdoctor too. I still cant believe that the ibo biafran propaganda is more effective in 2013 than in 1970 because the non-ibo biafran were not fooled. This men fooled your grand-fathers, fooled your fathers, are still fooling you and would still fool your unborn children. Even the most educated ibo men are immune from this gibberish.

litelov: U are going tribalistic. I don't know about ur tribes so I can't go there. I don't care what his father in law said or what his tribesmen say. I'm calling a spade a spade.

Russia, Britain and USA pretty much owned the world after second world war. U can't compare that scenario with Nigeria beifran war. Russia had no stronger power to fear.

Ojuku said he went to negotiate for peace. Which is a smart thing to do. One securing international attention, he sought peace. The goal of war is not to win every battle. It is to secure a long lasting position for your people. Sometimes u lose a battle to win the war. Biafran war is battle in the war for freedom of the ibos. The war I think they will eventually win, since Nigeria is bound to break up.

When I found out I had Nigerian roots I engrossed myself in Nigerian historical happenings, in view that I will return home someday. But what I saw and what I'm reading here show that u guys a clueless about world politics. The whites use u guys to kill each other based on tribalism. I was shocked when I saw the video of sokoto telling an interviewer that they rather hire a white expatriate than a Nigerian Ibo!!! That's disgusting!!!!

I will never go to Nigeria. U guys a clueless.

Kindly read the book of NU Akpan, ojukwu's secretary during the biafran war, "The Struggle for Secession, 1966-1970: A Personal Account of the Nigerian Civil War"

litelov: U are going tribalistic. I don't know about ur tribes so I can't go there. I don't care what his father in law said or what his tribesmen say. I'm calling a spade a spade.

Russia, Britain and USA pretty much owned the world after second world war. U can't compare that scenario with Nigeria beifran war. Russia had no stronger power to fear.

Ojuku said he went to negotiate for peace. Which is a smart thing to do. One securing international attention, he sought peace. The goal of war is not to win every battle. It is to secure a long lasting position for your people. Sometimes u lose a battle to win the war. Biafran war is battle in the war for freedom of the ibos. The war I think they will eventually win, since Nigeria is bound to break up.

When I found out I had Nigerian roots I engrossed myself in Nigerian historical happenings, in view that I will return home someday. But what I saw and what I'm reading here show that u guys a clueless about world politics. The whites use u guys to kill each other based on tribalism. I was shocked when I saw the video of sokoto telling an interviewer that they rather hire a white expatriate than a Nigerian Ibo!!! That's disgusting!!!!

I will never go to Nigeria. U guys a clueless.

The peace that he never negotiated when his people was dying of hunger. The same man who told his people to go war front with cutlasses to face people with AK-47. When his life and that of his family was now under threat now thought of negotiating peace. If you live in Nigeria, you will do more than what Sir Ahmadum Bello said the ibos. Ibos will never employ a Northerner unless as a gateman while you expect Ahmadu Bello to employ them as Directors?

We are not clueless. The clueless people are the ones ojukwu sent to the war fronts with cutlasses to their deaths and the people he deprived of food while he was busy cavorting with hausa women.

litelov: I am not Nigerian and I have never been to Nigeria but I have personally studied west African history and culture because DNA links my family to Nigeria. So I'm not speaking from any tribal perspective.

I can tell you that what you wrote does not make sense at all.

1) its not a matter of believe! Its a matter of recorded history! Ojuku declared an independent Biafra, not war. It was Nigeria that started war by first carrying out military police action against biafra. The same Nigeria that fails to implement what they agreed with in Ghana.

2) It was the attention brought by the war that prevented the Nigerian jihads from killing off all Christian braifrans. The killing started before the war, the world did not know what was going on. But the war brought the attention of the world. There was riot all over the world. It was this attention that checked Nigerians. This attention was even mentioned in the gowon video.

The truth is that Nigerians hate ibis, and its very sad. I'm not Ibo but I will say the truth. But the rest of world is beginning to know what is happening in Nigeria, even Hollywood. Watch the movie called TEARS OF THE SON.

Let me address the issues you raised. Obviously you have only seen things from the point of view of the biafran revisionist and propagandist.

1. In February 1966 when ojukwu's brother was the head of state, Adaka Boro declared independence from the Eastern Region. What did ojukwu and Aguiyi Ironsi do? Fast Forward to May 1967 Gowon did the same thing ojukwu and Aguiyi Ironsi did in February 1966 or is the aspirations of the ibos more important than that of the Niger Deltas.

2. The killing of ibos had noting to do about their religion. The killing of ibos was as a result of the first military coup in Nigeria on January 15, 1966 where a coup executed by predominantly ibo officers who had killed the four (4) most senior Northerner Officers (Maimalari, Kur Mohammed, Largema and Pam), the premier of the Northerner Region (Sir Ahmadu Bello) and the Northern Prime Minister (Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa). They also killed the most senior Yoruba Officer (Samuel Ademulegun), the third most senior Yoruba Officer (Ralph Shodeinde) and the premier of Western Region (Ladoke Akintola) while they left out the President who is ibo, they left out the most senior Nigerian and ibo Officer (Aguiyi Ironsi) and they also left out the ibo premier of Eastern Region and the man who was described by his father in law (CC Onoh, ibo) as a CANTANKEROUS COWARD, CHUKWUEMEKA ODUMEGWU OJUKWU (5th Battalion Kano). The acting president (ibo) ,(Nwafor Orizu) who should have handed over to the acting PM chosing by the Northern Party instead handed over power to GOC of the Nigeria Army who was also ibo. Some people say under duress. The ibos in the North, had openly celebrated the killing of the Northerners and also taunted the Northerners that power had changed hands. Also the ibos at every opportunity played a record "Ewu Ne Ba Akwa” meaning in ibo "goats are crying" in reference to the premier of the Northern Region who at that time was the powerful Nigerian.

3. The president of Nigeria (Gowon) during the biafran war is a Christian and he was a better Christian than the biafran leader (ojukwu). The minister of Finance (Awolowo) and second to Gowon was also a Christian. The GOC of 3rd Divison (Benjamin Adekunle) who said " I want to avoid feeding a single Ibo as long as this whole people have not given up yet" is a Christian and also the officers who served under him. The Officer who received the instrument of surrender from the biafrans (Obasanjo) is a Christian. The super Permanent Secretaries under Gowon were Christians. The civil war in the simplest term was a clash of ego between Gowon and ojukwu and I stand to be corrected. Kindly read the book of one of the officers who took part in the first coup and fought on the biafran side (Adewale Ademoyega) "Why We Struck". ojukwu said "on Aburi we stand" while his heart and other leg was in Yamoussoukro.

4. There about 400 ethnic nationalities in Nigeria. Sample people's opinion from various ethnic nationalities and notice which tribe Nigerians detest most. The average ibo person lacks tact, lousy and has the attitude "we are smart others are foolish". That was why during the first coup in Nigeria, they killed the leaders and military officers of others and gave spurious reasons why their own were spared. The same reason 42 years after the first coup the respected chinua achebe in his book "There was a Country, A personal history of Biafra" described the first coup as a naively idealist coup. Of course, its an idealist coup since they spared the lives of the ibo leaders and officers. That's a classic example of an ibo man's definition of sense.

T8ksy: Did the ibo asked ojukwu to annex the mid-west region and the sw too?

I wonder how many of those "courageous" ibos would have insisted ojukwu declare for autonomy from nigeria, had they known that Ojukwu's

"best army in black africa" only have 200 dane guns in her armoury with minimal relevant foreign support.

My brother I still cant wrap my head around it. A man who sent people to the war front with cutlasses to confront people with AK-47 while that same man was hiding in bushes and armed his personal security with the best hands in Biafra. The same man who said Gowon was not the most senior military officer in Nigeria so he was not entitled to the throne while this same man (ojukwu) locked the most senior ibo officer (Brig. Hilary Njoku)in Biafra in prison . The same wicked ojukwu who rejected land corridor through which they could bring in food to feed his people who were dying in droves of hunger while ojukwu looked chubby and over weight. Did any of ojukwu's useless children who are fighting over Sir Louis Odumegwu Ojukwu's properties (The only Ojukwu I have a modicum of respect for) go a hour without food during the stu.pid war. An ojukwu who killed Banjo for abandoning Benin while he (ojukwu) abandoned Enugu in 1967 and ran to Onitsha. The same ojukwu in July 1966 who told Brig. Ogundipe to keep fighting while he (ojukwu) abandoned Enugu for Onitsha.

An ojukwu who said they were going to fight to the last man and that when they had killed the last man the grass will stand up and fight. A man whose only war strategy was to use people as cannon-fodder and show his starving people to the world so as gain pity. ojukwu is the greatest scam in the history of this country. Its so unfortunate that 43 years after the end of the civil war this man is regarded as a hero by a group of people, so unfortunate.