Oduduwaboy: @ Deha ....why do you keep going round in circles ? Your arguments are the same boring ones fearful believers have being recycling since the middle ages . They are nowhere as brilliant as those of St. Thomas Aquinas though.

Okay. Why not answer the OP in Straight-forward and honest way as the 'holy book' at least enjoins us?

rationalmind:

There would have been no reason whatsoever to believe in that god.

rationalmind:

Did you read what you typed before you sent it? How was I supposed to know it was the spambots error? Have I ever told you I had supernatural powers?

And I never concluded. I said "looks like" That is, "it appears that". Not that its exactly like that.

rationalmind:

In what little way has God shown himself to you

rationalmind:

To stick by what we've been saying. Here is my light which I still continually doubt hoping to arrive at better "lights". There is no reason whatsoever to believe there is a God, hence, I'm inclined to say, there is no God.

rationalmind:

What exactly are u saying? Why are u combining posts addressed to different posters together and saying there is no similarity. This is outright dishonesty and its not what I expect from a christian.

Looks like folykaze was right all along, ure not a real christian

FOLYKAZE:

End of discussion.....christians are blind and ignorant about God.....that is why they contradict each other. More like using idea to explain what they are ignorant about. Halelluyah.

rationalmind:

Asking what I what I believe in is quite a broad question and I really don't know how to answer. Let me see if I can try.

I believe in the words of budha. "Doubt everything, find your own light"

FOLYKAZE:

I came forward with 5 task and he failed on 3. The guy is not serious at all

FOLYKAZE:

Then everything is not possible for your God. Your case closed....you cant help

FOLYKAZE:

Deny it with prove that am wrong. This is baseless

rationalmind:

Lol, what ure trying to do is all what we've been saying. I'm right, they are wrong. The bible supports me, it doesn't support them. If they were to be here, I hope you know they'll also tell you what ure saying. They are right, the bible supports them and ure wrong.

That was what d guy was trying to say. Each with different hopelessly contradicting doctrines with backing from the same bible

rationalmind:

Numbers 22:28
28 Then the LORD opened the mouth of the
donkey, and she said to Balaam, “What have I done
to you, that you have struck me these three times?”

Lol, I know balaam didn't ask God to let the donkey talk. But you of course know the donkey talked because of balaams rebellion. That's what folykaze his saying. God should make his chicken talk cos of his rebellion.

God has done it before, he can do it again.

rationalmind:

Lol, what ure trying to do is all what we've been saying. I'm right, they are wrong. The bible supports me, it doesn't support them. If they were to be here, I hope you know they'll also tell you what ure saying. They are right, the bible supports them and ure wrong.

That was what d guy was trying to say. Each with different hopelessly contradicting doctrines with backing from the same bible

rationalmind:

Lol, what ure trying to do is all what we've been saying. I'm right, they are wrong. The bible supports me, it doesn't support them. If they were to be here, I hope you know they'll also tell you what ure saying. They are right, the bible supports them and ure wrong.

That was what d guy was trying to say. Each with different hopelessly contradicting doctrines with backing from the same bible

rationalmind:

Lol, what ure trying to do is all what we've been saying. I'm right, they are wrong. The bible supports me, it doesn't support them. If they were to be here, I hope you know they'll also tell you what ure saying. They are right, the bible supports them and ure wrong.

That was what d guy was trying to say. Each with different hopelessly contradicting doctrines with backing from the same bible

FOLYKAZE:

I want to deal with the christian that can manifest the power of God with faith and belief.

FOLYKAZE:

So Ballam donkey is lie huh?


Matthew 17:20

He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."


John 14:12

Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

so what exactly is wrong tasking you to make a stone move or a chicken talk?

FOLYKAZE:

You want to deny different doctrines in churches?

- catholic worship mary while protestant do not.

- celestial walk around with bare-foot while other churches dont.

- protestant belief in eternall punishment while jehovah witness do not.

Deny any of the three

FOLYKAZE:


Evidently you are either not a christian or you one of the deluded ones.

1. You got no faith

Matthew 17:20

He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

2. You dont even believe in the power of Jesus

John 14:12

Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

so what exactly is wrong tasking you to make a stone move or a chicken talk?

FOLYKAZE:


Evidently you are either not a christian or you one of the deluded ones.

1. You got no faith

Matthew 17:20

He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

2. You dont even believe in the power of Jesus

John 14:12

Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

so what exactly is wrong tasking you to make a stone move or a chicken talk?

rationalmind:

Hehehehehehe, laff wan kill me bros.

Jokes apart sha. Did you laugh when you read the same in the bible? Now that folykaze is asking for the same, you suddenly saw the folly in animals talking and started laughing.

Can you now see why I said you read the bible with red rosy coloured glasses.

rationalmind:

You didn't understand what the guy said about different doctrines cos your example clearly shows you don't. Let me give you some examples.

DOCTRINE A. DOCTRINE B

1. Tithe is biblical. No, its a fraud.

2. Ladies can wear trousers. No, its a sin

3. Ladies must cover their
hair while praying. No, its not necessary.

FOLYKAZE:

butthurt.

The option in that miracle condition were based on bible. If you have faith like a mustard seed, you will move mountain....lets see you move stone.

Donkey talk in bible, pray to your God so that my chicken talk.

If you cant make this happen after serious appeal to your God....then you should be disappointed he failed you.

rationalmind:

The problem with his argument is that, he see s something he does not understand and conclude its God.

Imagine an eclipse occurring in the 2nd century, what do you think those primitive folks would have said, GOD!!!

FOLYKAZE:

I am between two option here......not taking you serious because either you ignorant about the content in the OP or you only want to display christianity fallacy.

Here is what I wrote on Miracle....




I bodied each condition with specific options and nothing like sun there. Pls quit lying here. Show us evidence of God existence within the conditions or he doesn't exist

FOLYKAZE:

So Sun is the God am asking for? You got nothing to offer.

FOLYKAZE:

what is am searching for? I did but cant get anything related to the thread there

FOLYKAZE:

Stop telling I do not understand a verse because it doesn't fall into your juicy feeble mind. Tell me what about the verse I dont understand and your views about it.

As per the bold, pls go and read the OP again. My conditions

rationalmind:

As for the bold, check the OP.

Your post is replete with logical fallacies. The most circulated book of all time in saudi arabia is the quran. Does that make the quran true? The fact that the most circulated book in the world is the bible doesn't make it true.

What is there in the scripture that he doesn't understand. If you can understand it despite the damage religion has done to you, why can't he?

FOLYKAZE:

I would have ignore you but you might take it as pride. How does the above rant answer this? Ezekiel 38:23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.'

I am not here for bible debate bro. If it to argue on bible by quoting it, am good there but this thread isn't for that. The above verse explained everything in my OP. The conditions I put there were promised by God in Ezekiel. Why are we not seeing this today? Secondly I didn't say am interested in knowing everything about your God. I want to see him and his manifestations. Just tell me your God doesn't have potential for this.

Maybe or not the Ezekiel verse I quote is false or God was lying......by then I can accept you guys are completely brainless and deluded. Deal with that verse buddy and lets roll