frosbel: There is nothing holy about the Trinity, it is an unholy Pagan concept.

I believe u are an atheist,and seriously,Yours is worst!!
A hopeless being without belief,thats the pure definition of Death!!

FOLYKAZE:

what is your point, what is that thing am displaying ignorantly? Provide them or shut up and deal with my terms

Prov23:12 "Apply your mind to instruction and your ear to the words of Knowledge"..
Prov24:10 "If you faint in the day of adversity,your strenght is small"..
Prov25:2 "it is the Glory of God to conceal Things........."
Prov27:22 "crush a fool in a Mortar with Pestle along with a crushed grain,yet his folly will not depart from him"..
Bro,read Proverbs 2,it will aid u a lot...Here is an intro:
Proverbs2:
v1:My son,if you recieve my words and treasure up my commandments with you,
v2:making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding;
v3:Yes,if u cry out for insight and raise your voice for understanding,
v4:if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures;
v5:then you will understand the fear of the Lord and Find the Knowledge of God"................Read on!
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Coming to a forum to keep shouting out about childish follies of conditions that must be met b4 u reconvert is a Mere kiddies show!!
Prov3:1-2 "My son,do not forget my teaching,but let your heart keep my commandments; 2} for lenght of days and years of life and abundant welfare will they give you"....
You seem to be the type that believe in God when the going is gud,but when the going becums tough,You start looking 4 who to give the blame....
Ecclesiastes11:5 "As You do not know how the spirit comes to the bones in the womb of a woman with child,so you do not know the work of God who makes everything."

FOLYKAZE:

Accepting Jesus as personal lord and saviour, praying, baptism, evangelism and faithful.

I asked for his knowledge and seek through his manifestation. Oops I was failed.

Can you now seal my conditions?

I seriously doubt Who were worshipping...
What do You mean by "I Asked for His knowledge and seek Through Manifestation?"

FOLYKAZE:

I did it as every devouted born-again christian do it

How do you know someone is born again?
How did u seek God 4 18 good years?

FOLYKAZE:

I read that more than 100 times. What is your point?

Reading it 100times doesnt mean u understood them at 100times!!
If at all u have read those and understood them,there are certain things you wont be publicly showing ignorance of..

rationalmind:

Didn't you read his previous posts? He said he has gone through the only way to him for 18 solid years.

Ask him How he did that?

Tgirl4real:

I am not foolish. That aint gonna happen in this life or in the after life.

An atheist talking of After-life? Smh!!

rationalmind:

Lol, these people use basically the same tactics. Look at what mohammed said in the quran.

And they that know not say, 'Why does God not
speak to us? Why does a sign ( ayatun) not come to
us?' So spoke those before them as these men
say; their hearts are much alike. Yet We have
made clear the signs (bayyanna al-ayati) unto a
people who are sure. S. 2:118

So you see, when pressed for a sign or miracle, they resort to mental gymnastics and refuse to show the sign. Its a common tactic of all religious leaders, cult leaders and conmen.

The ugly girls are getting married every Saturday,while the beautiful girls are busy beautifying the pictures!! A word is enuf 4 the wise.

FOLYKAZE:

I didn't ask for Jesus bros. Am having my business with God.

He promised to give us sign so that we can believe.....and know him
Ezekiel 38:23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.'

No sign, no believe....even God know this that sign and sight bring believe and knowledge about him to the world. Better tell us your own God doesn't have potential to reveal his might

You dont undastand the Bible u read and quote,thats why..
Your business is with God,and u dont want to go through the Only Way to Him?
Dont be a Thomas who doubted his other friends{disciples} about the resurection of Jesus....You can imagine someone who has been with Jesus Christ still doubts Him...What more of u,who came 2000yrs later!!
Keep looking for signs!!

FOLYKAZE:

The Lord did it and can do it again. Let him show his face. It part of my conditions

I believe u are in self-inflicted deciet here!!
Read The Books of Proverb and Ecclesiastes in the Bible...

FOLYKAZE:

You think you can quote bible for me huh? I read it from genesis to revelation more than thrice before trashing it so your cherry picking game wont work for me.

Deutronomy 34:10 " And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,"

Exodus 33:11 The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent. How does a man speaks with his friend? Will you back your friend? Moses saw god in the bible, face to face. Ojukoroju hmmm

That Means You have not been understanding the Bible you have been Reading....Was Moses the only Prophet spoke to ? The answer is No! Was Moses the only one God spoke to in your aforementioned face to face? No
1}Jeremiah1:4-5
"The Lord said to me."I chose u before i gave you life,and before u were born,i selected you to be a prophet to the nations"......Was God backing Jeremiah when He was talking to him? Do the answering
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2}Ezekiel2
v1:When i saw this,i fell face downwards on the ground,then i heard a voice saying,"Mortal man,stand up.I want to talk to you."
v2:While the voice was speaking,Gods spirit entered me and raised me to my feet,and i heard the Voice continue..."
was God backing him when He was talking to him,Do the answering...
Moses just beheld the Glory of God,just like the disciples in the Transfiguration....And you also believe God Handed him the Ten Commandments personally too,right?!!

Is that a cake or some toy?

FOLYKAZE: Since I disclosed my disbelief in God stance, many ranging from neighbours, to friends and lastly family have been kicking against me. I had to speak up my mind because I cant live as person who am not and cant hide forever. On the long run, many have preached and shared the gospel with me. Some were informing me how God love me. Well dont wanna push hard so here are conditions that can make me belief in the existence of God and/or make me convert back to christianity.


1. I want to know God

As a man, I need to contact with the reality of the world through my consciousness. I am aware of the world through sense experience. I make use of the concepts abstracted from my experience of others, I draw conclusions about the world around me. So the only way I can belief in God is if he can be spotted and know with my five sense (seeing, hearing, touching, smelling, and tasting).


2. Miracle

Being thinking of hijacking a sunday service with a loaded pistol. I can just ask the whole church to pray to God for saving their pastor when I point my pistol at his forehead......dont want to go through the thick cuz I might end in jail. Lol.

Anyway since christians believe in bible and it said that through faith mountain can shift it position, we can experiment how prayer miraculously move a little stone. If truely there is God who listen and answer prayer with supreme power, then he should answer prayer warriors request and move the stone at least a metre length. OR since God can make donkey talk, I will want to see and hear my chicken saying 'folyk, why are you tempting God, pls belief'. With this I will belief in God if he display miraculous fit like those mentioned.


3. Fill with Holy Spirit

Yeah. It is said that if we dont want to eat palm oil, we might do because of yam. Holy spirit can manifest in me which will point to the existence of God. I can remember when I was still a christian.......for good 18years, I didn't fall under anointing or holy ghost touch period while my friends roll on ground like person with epilepsy. I didn't speak in tongue, God didn't whisper to my ears, I didn't see vision of hell and no spirit talking to me. My friends can fast for 21 days but I ended up in hospital when I fasted for 2 days.
Why always me? Why cant I be like others who receive sms from demon, fall under anointing, speak in tongue or hear from God. If I should believe in God, Holy spirit should manifest in me so that I can experience divinity presence like my friends.


4. One Universal Church

Different denominations and doctrines in the house of God purged me out of christianity. Obadiah was right when he called me Ashewo.....I read the bible back then and always wish to follow it but always find church doctrines contradicting both other churches pattern and bible. So when I find any contradiction, I divorce the denomination for another. The worst is the multiplying division against self in christiandom........if you want to see the bad part of your church, you need to view it from other churches. Jehovah Witness bashing catholic, catholic mocking protestant, deeper life hating c/s, celestial exposing christ embassy hypocrisy and Redeem forming holier than thou. I worshipped in almost every church is my locality.....but seem they are lying and deceiving self when watched from a separate church.
God call for one body..... When there is this one body, it can prove that yes there is someone who speak and host human race as one body in christ. With this, I can belief in christ which draw God in too.


5. Accessible Gateway

It only in nairaland I know that there is updated spiritual-tech when pastor Jo informed us demon now send text message. Back in sunday school class, we were told that God telephone number is J.E.S.U.S. I grew up to find out that you cant press J when dialing call. The doubt about God existence came through this and other deceptive gospel. When we are million mile apart, I can chat through internet provided there is network. I can ring your line, post you letter and speak physically with you by travelling down. This goes with high profile people yet we are all the creation of God.
If there is a God, I will believe in him if there is an accessible gateway through wish I can communicate with him. Telephone, email account, bbm pin, or heaven transport route leading to him can definately make me believe totally in his existence.


The above are my conditions which will make me belief in the existence of God and convert back to christian.....

- christians....can you make this happen now to quicken my convert?

- heathens....what are your conditions for reconverting? Share pls

Mathew12:38-39
[b]Then some teachers of the Law and some Pharisees spoke up."Teacher",they said,"we want to see you Perform a miracle."
39: "How Evil and Godless are the people of this day!" Jesus exclaimed...................."

FOLYKAZE:

the bold is false. Moses saw God face to face. Some folks claimed God visited them in person.....

Moreover, spirit to me is energy but energy dont talk....definately God talk as accounted.... Lets see all these, i will truely believe in him

You are in Delusion...No mortal living Soul can see God...
2ndly,not everyone Will see God...
"blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God"..

Alfa Seltzer: Jesus’ mission on earth was to modify Judaism for the Jews, as their Messiah. In Matthew 15, Jesus said: “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” And, in Matthew 10, Jesus told his disciples: “Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Now, given that very few Jews converted to Christianity, so few that Paul later put the focus almost entirely on Gentiles (non-Jews), it becomes apparent that Jesus failed in his primary mission. But, not only did he fail to convert many Jews, he also failed to foresee that failure. Remember that in Christian dogma, Jesus is a god and can foresee the future: “Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he (John 13:19).”

Now, recall that the Jews were fully primed to expect a Messiah; they were told in the Old Testament that the Messiah would be one of them, a Jew, and would lead them to renewed greatness in the world. They should have been eager to accept a reasonably convincing candidate.

Further, Jesus was born into, and spent virtually his entire ministry in Jewish lands. He also took special care to act in ways which would fulfill Old Testament prophesies concerning the Messiah. In entering Jerusalem, for example, to accord with scripture: “And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written (John 12:14).”

Interestingly, the Gospels disagree on just what Jesus rode, but all were trying to make the passage fit what they thought the Old Testament called for. John says Jesus rode on an ass, Mark and Luke say he rode on a colt, while Matthew says he rode on both an ass and a colt . . . somehow.

The Gospels also claim that Jesus was regularly followed by great crowds of mostly Jews. For example, Luke 12 reads: “In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all . . . “

Tens of thousands of Jews must have been eyewitnesses to his sermons and miracles. Yet, they were largely unconvinced. Many would have seen him turn water into wine, heal the sick, cast out demons, and resurrect the dead. Why didn’t the word travel like wildfire throughout the Jewish world of this miracle worker, a hero of their own, given all those eye witnesses?

According to Judaism, Jesus was seen as a false Messiah by the Jews in part because he was not an ordinary human being, as was prophesied, but claimed to be a “son of god.” Perhaps those early stories about Jesus and his miracles “oversold” him?

Whatever the reasons, so few Jews bought into the Jesus-as-Messiah story that Paul decided to concentrate on spreading the “Good News” to the Gentiles instead. Of course, the Jews’ rejection of Jesus doesn’t prove he wasn’t the son of god, but it should raise a very large red flag. Something very strange is going on here. Think about it: The son of god was sent to god’s chosen people and they largely rejected him, so god didn’t get what he wanted? How can such a story make sense to anyone?

According to the words of the Bible, it seems pretty clear that Jesus not only failed to convert the Jews, largely, but he also failed to foresee that he would fail. Does this sound like the work of a god to you?

I believe u need a Relapse...

ravgach:

Sound counsel!

Bless u

philfearon:
God bless you bro...

you are welcome

macof: Jesus is dead and gone....deal with it. Jesus is even less a thing than the Yoruba orishas

How can you say that Jesus is Dead and gone? Didnt the same Bible that told you He died,tell you that He arose and ascended into heaven? Why are you this biased?
We know you dont believe in Jesus,but saying things that are not true about Him is wrong! If you read in the bible that he died,then,you should have seen that He arose too....
John20:9 "They still did not understand the scripture which said that He must rise from Death"....
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Do not be like Thomas who said "...Unless i see in His hands the print of nails,and put my finger into the print of the nails,and put my hand into His side,i will not believe"{JOHN20:25}....
Jesus said "Blessed are those who have not seen,and yet have believed"{John20:29} for a reason...
If you dont want to Believe in Jesus Christ,good,but making a caricature of Him? I advice you to stop that please!

quivah:
you are welcomed

Thanks Sweetie

Bossforeva: Nep! She should give u a welcome hug and relieve you of your travel bag. Bro! U have wandered so much. Deha the Wanderer!

you are very funny!! Thats kul by me anyway,thanks!

macof: you seem to understand the devil really well, even better than God. you believe in the devil, I don't. No one is capable of rebelling against God, dat is just so stupid to believe in a devil dat is against God.

And u shouldn't provoke me by affiliating my religion to ur devil, and stop insulting my gods, I dont want to start insulting Jesus. And are u by any chance saying my ancestors are devils?
eranko bi ti e, omo osi, olori buruku bi ti e, ma sa da nu bi mi, o ma da ko l'ogbon die.

do u need ur ifa to tell u that your ancestors are devils?
You are a lost soul,and devil has no reason to make u believe he exists becuz it wil open ur eyez to leave his claws on u!!
But,here is the goodnews,God stil loves you..He wants u back...Stop worshippin tins that cant save u from itself....your gods are tins!

Austeenx:

Exactly!

I see...
I better keep my Thanksgiving to myself and do it in my house!

macof: I like this guy. demons cant try me, I have God, and my Ori is very active

Your Ori abi? Demons cant try u abi?
Devil wont be wasting his demons time on a person already bound to him!!Thats why he is nt bothered about u,you are already his..Just like someone pointed out,Christ loves u and wants u to be saved b4 its too late...No repentance in the Grave..Go and ask ur forefathers if u can!
Let Devils hold on u off....

Austeenx:


Church of the flying vaseline.

Okay okay! The church that says masturbation is a sweet free ride to heaven?

I heard this news one Month ago!!

Austeenx: My turn:

Okay, don't forget to share this as a testimony in church. Also, don't forget doing thanksgiving.

yeah,i will..Whats the name of that ur church again?

quivah: more like an achievement??!

More like you should welcome me in smiling!!

Crazy set of People!

Guy,dis ur WaterH20 Theory makes sense die...I mean,come to think of it,whichever form water is,it is still water...it doesnt change one bit,not even an atom of its real essence is lost...
Its a shame many people choose to believe Humans over God...Goodluck to them,but they all should have a rethink...

Finally joined Nairaland,a world in a World!!