Sladem05: ‘Oh my God, were you born in Nigeria?, because the fact that you can't see the similarities between everything youcre currently talking about India, and what was said about Nigeria is really funny... And no, i don't use emotions, i use variables, with stats. being part of those variables. You talk about the future, when the present speaks different on how the issues of the country is going; yea, there are Economic growths and future projections, Nigeria was once touted with one too. That is why stats. will always be askewed without adding other variables’ No thankfully not. The thing is you do use emotions. You just keep saying India is bad, India is bad where else they are projected to be among the fastest growing economies in the G20. What a joke. Nothing you’re saying has any meaning. What variables are you talking about? Do you really think Nigeria could ever reached its projections?😂 Sure these are just projections that are assume that all variables remain the same and they seldom never do but regardless there is actually no reason to think that India won’t end up in a similar situation as the US and China. Nigeria has never had India’s potential. I get it’s hard pill to swallow but it’s the truth.
‘Will India be a future high societal Nation the likes of UK, who knows, but humans are too complex to be grouped by only analytical projections... Projections have failed countless times especially when talking about countries, you should know, your country is one; Venezuela was once one of the richest Latino Nations, then Chavez came, and the issues with the Two political parties started, even though projections had originally touted Venezuela to be relatively stable under Chavez... Humans are more complex than projections, especially given Countries like India were deep rooted systemic issues are still rife, and that's not even including the corruption’ Projections can and do fail. I Will agree with that but even if they aren’t precisely true with india. That doesn’t change the fact that this country will end up being a big player in the future. India will end up like Philippines, Vietnam, China and Mexico in a couple decades. There is no alternative universe or reality where Nigeria or any black dominated succeed ever succeeds at anything but destruction. Never. It’s impossible.
Dude said Philippines, a country were their Vice President just tried to wack their President... And dude said Vietnam.
"There is no alternative universe or reality where Nigeria or any black dominated succeed ever succeeds at anything but destruction. Never. It’s impossible."
Again, stupidity, lets even leave the Carribean Nations because i'm tired of your biases, lets come to Africa... A good example, Rwanda; 7.6 economic growth in 2023, 7.2 growth in 2024, 6.6 currently, actually currently higher than India... But i guess all Black Nations are doomed to fail, that statement is so untrue, because Nations right now are the embodiment of the being untrue... Which is why i said you have serious biases, even maybe an "Uncle Tom" persuasion; because i've been noticing your rhetorics since, other groups, "systemic issues and it will be better" rhetoric, Black groups "Completely damned".
Sladem05: Statistics reveal to us as to how developed a country is. You can’t formulate an argument as to how developed. Country merely based on opinion. Development is objective you fool. You have to use statistics to find out how developed a country is.
Alright, here’s a more humanized and concise response to debunk the claims:
1. Favouritism in US Immigration • Claim: Post-1965 US policies favored Asians, so it’s not “oversimplification” to call it favouritism. • Debunk: Those policies were skills-based, not racially designed. Asians benefited because many came with the education and qualifications the system valued. • It wasn’t “favoring Asians” so much as “favoring skills.” Other groups didn’t lose out because of race—it was about meeting criteria. • Asians still faced racism and systemic barriers, so calling it outright favouritism ignores the struggles they dealt with after arriving.
2. India vs. Nigeria vs. the UK • Claim: India is more like Nigeria than the UK due to secessionist issues, cultural divides, and GDP per capita. • Debunk: On the surface, sure, India and Nigeria share some challenges. But the differences are huge: • Economic Growth: India’s economy is booming and diverse (tech, manufacturing, pharma), while Nigeria is still heavily reliant on oil. • Infrastructure: India’s railways, ports, and cities are far ahead of Nigeria. It’s messy, but it works. • Global Role: India is a global power with growing influence, while Nigeria will never come close.
India has problems, but it’s on a completely different trajectory from Nigeria. Comparing it to the UK makes sense when you look at its economic potential and global influence. That’s why I compared the UK to India as both countries do have the same economic potential and India’s global influence is starting to rival the UK now. Obviously, it will take time for India to reach UK’s development levels but it will get there.
3. Migration Doesn’t Equal Dysfunction • Claim: People don’t flee good countries. India’s migration shows dysfunction, not globalization. • Debunk: Migration isn’t always about escaping bad situations. Indians often move for opportunity, like higher pay or education, not because they’re fleeing hardship. • Legal Migration: India has the world’s largest diaspora, and most of it is legal. Skilled workers, students, and professionals dominate migration patterns. • Illegal Migration: Yes, some migrate illegally, but it’s a small fraction. Nigerians, on the other hand, often migrate out of necessity, not opportunity.
The key difference: Indians migrate because they can, not because they must.
4. “The World is More Complex than Numbers” • Claim: Stats oversimplify things; they don’t capture the full picture. • Debunk: Sure, numbers don’t tell the whole story, but they’re reliable indicators. India’s rapid economic growth, thriving diaspora, and global influence aren’t just anecdotes—they’re backed by stats.
Ignoring data in favor of “perspective” often leads to cherry-picking. Both numbers and context matter.
India and Nigeria might share some struggles, but India’s growth, infrastructure, and global influence make it a completely different story. Migration from India is about opportunity, not dysfunction, and its trajectory puts it closer to countries like the UK than Nigeria. Stats may not tell the full story, but they don’t lie either.
"Illegal Migration: Yes, some migrate illegally, but it’s a small fraction. Nigerians, on the other hand, often migrate out of necessity, not opportunity."
5000 a month from just one border point is a small fraction?, Wow, Bro, stop being delusional... More Indians cross through the Mexican border than the Canadian border, Indians illegally migrate en masse to other countries too, and yet, you think all these combined is a small fraction, we've not even talked about the Study fraud... All migrants migrate for better opportunity, the path of migration speaks on the desperation on how a migrant needs that opportunity, and the mass illegal migration is not doing any favours to your argument dude.
By the way, lets talk about these projections you were talking about India... Analyst who made the projections had to quickly reduce their reduced their analytical expectations after the Indian Economic growth dropped to 5%, which means the older projections at 7% automatically became wrong... Simple, what i've been trying to explain since, humans are way more complex than analytical projections.
Sladem05: The problem is that your arguments are centred on feelings and emotions. They have no meaning. It’s anecdotal garbage. Personal experiences are a terrible way of judging economic development. With your Estonia and India example? Estonia is more developed and objectively better to live in right now for most people. It has a high standard of living, excellent digital infrastructure, universal healthcare, and low corruption. Life is stable, and services like education and public safety are top-tier.
India, on the other hand, has more potential due to its massive population, fast-growing economy, and booming tech sector. However, it’s still grappling with issues like poverty, inequality, and strained infrastructure, which makes daily life challenging for many.
In short: Estonia wins on quality of life today, but India holds the edge in future potential if its growth is managed well. It depends on what you prioritize—comfort and stability, or dynamic opportunities with challenges.
The same with the UK and India. I never actually said India was a better place to live but that its economic potential shouldn’t be ignored.
Oh my God, were you born in Nigeria?, because the fact that you can't see the similarities between everything youcre currently talking about India, and what was said about Nigeria is really funny... And no, i don't use emotions, i use variables, with stats. being part of those variables. You talk about the future, when the present speaks different on how the issues of the country is going; yea, there are Economic growths and future projections, Nigeria was once touted with one too. That is why stats. will always be askewed without adding other variables.
Will India be a future high societal Nation the likes of UK, who knows, but humans are too complex to be grouped by only analytical projections... Projections have failed countless times especially when talking about countries, you should know, your country is one; Venezuela was once one of the richest Latino Nations, then Chavez came, and the issues with the Two political parties started, even though projections had originally touted Venezuela to be relatively stable under Chavez... Humans are more complex than projections, especially given Countries like India were deep rooted systemic issues are still rife, and that's not even including the corruption.
Sladem05: Yeah I already debunked your point on the Indian sides I told you that India’s potential is far greater than Nigeria.
Read again. I said the most violent countries in the world are either black or have significant black populations.
El Salvador: Predominantly Mestizo; Black population is minimal. 2. Jamaica: Approximately 92% of the population is of African descent. 3. Honduras: Predominantly Mestizo; Black (Garifuna) population is about 2%. 4. Venezuela: Predominantly Mestizo; Black population is estimated at 3-4%. 5. Belize: About 21% of the population is of African (Creole) descent. 6. South Africa: Approximately 80% of the population is Black African. 7. Lesotho: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Basotho). 8. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: Predominantly of African descent. 9. Saint Kitts and Nevis: Predominantly of African descent. 10. Nigeria: Over 99% of the population is Black African. 11. Trinidad and Tobago: Approximately 35% of the population is of African descent. 12. Colombia: Approximately 10.6% identify as Black, with an additional 3.4% identifying as Afro-Colombian. 13. Brazil: Approximately 7.6% identify as Black, with 43% identifying as mixed race (Pardo), which includes Afro-Brazilian heritage. 14. Guatemala: Predominantly Mestizo and Indigenous; Black population is minimal. 15. Mexico: Predominantly Mestizo; Black (Afro-Mexican) population is approximately 2%. 16. Dominican Republic: Predominantly mixed race; Black population is significant but not precisely quantified. 17. Haiti: Approximately 95% of the population is of African descent. 18. Bahamas: Approximately 90% of the population is of African descent. 19. Saint Lucia: Predominantly of African descent. 20. Barbados: Approximately 92% of the population is of African descent. 21. Grenada: Predominantly of African descent. 22. Guyana: Approximately 30% of the population is of African descent. 23. Suriname: Approximately 37% of the population is of African descent. 24. Angola: Over 98% of the population is Black African. 25. Democratic Republic of the Congo: Over 99% of the population is Black African. 26. Central African Republic: Over 90% of the population is Black African. 27. Papua New Guinea: Predominantly Melanesian; Black population is minimal. 28. Afghanistan: Predominantly Pashtun, Tajik, and Hazara; Black population is negligible. 29. Sudan: Approximately 70% of the population is Black African. 30. Somalia: Over 85% of the population is of Somali ethnicity, generally classified as Black African.
I list the top 30 and yet you still cherrypick? You’re a fool😂 Latin America and the carribean are grouped together. The more black parts of Latin America like the carribean, Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina tend to be more dangerous than the less black parts like Chile, Urguay etc. accept it that blacks are more violent.
Did you just say Argentina is among the most Black parts?, Jesus Christ... And it's not cherrypicking, stop deviating; you brought out a list, your list clearly shows that in the Top 10 Nations you called, only 2 are majorly made up of Black people, some there doesn't even pass 2-3%; so which means violent people in those countries are majorly not Black, for example El Salvador which i know have a very miniscule Black population 😂😂😂.
Argentina too barely has any, so many of the Top 10 countries you called have a miniscule to a minority Black population, and yet, "All African Nations are the violent"; you already contradicted yourself with that statement; are you stupid or outwardly close your eyes to Ghana, Bissau, Benin, do you know how many countries there are in Africa?.
"Yeah I already debunked your point on the Indian sides I told you that India’s potential is far greater than Nigeria"
And once again, i never compared both, you constantly act like this is what i'm doing... Both countries have a lot of systemic similarties, i even gave you a video on this, but biases will always take precedence with you... India is a shithole, i've debunked your India is amazing rhetoric countless times. This India topic came due to your comparison with them and the UK, which is just outright funny, please don't do that again; one region is a high societal region, and the other is a region whose Citizens will illegally desperately do anything to go to the first region.
Sladem05: you’re the one deviating. This is about black Americans. You now want try and cook up the myth of black success😂😂. African countries are the most corrupt on earth. Look at the CPI index. You think I’m going to trust their bogus, heavily underreported crime stats. The countries with the highest crime tend to have blacks or a high population of them.
Countries with the highest homicide rates and look at the black correlation
1. El Salvador: Predominantly Mestizo (mixed Indigenous and European descent); Black population is minimal. 2. Honduras: Predominantly Mestizo; Black (Garifuna) population is approximately 2%. 3. Venezuela: Predominantly Mestizo; Black population is estimated at 3-4%. 4. Jamaica: Approximately 92% of the population is of African descent. 5. South Africa: About 80% of the population is Black African. 6. Brazil: Approximately 7.6% identify as Black, with 43% identifying as mixed race (Pardo), which includes Afro-Brazilian heritage. 7. Trinidad and Tobago: Approximately 35% of the population is of African descent. 8. Belize: About 21% of the population is of African (Creole) descent. 9. Guatemala: Predominantly Mestizo and Indigenous; Black population is minimal. 10. Mexico: Predominantly Mestizo; Black (Afro-Mexican) population is approximately 2%. 11. Colombia: Approximately 10.6% identify as Black, with an additional 3.4% identifying as Afro-Colombian. 12. Nigeria: Over 99% of the population is Black African. 13. Democratic Republic of the Congo: Over 99% of the population is Black African. 14. Central African Republic: Over 90% of the population is Black African. 15. Papua New Guinea: Predominantly Melanesian; Black population is minimal. 16. Afghanistan: Predominantly Pashtun, Tajik, and Hazara; Black population is negligible. 17. Haiti: Approximately 95% of the population is of African descent. 18. Sudan: Approximately 70% of the population is Black African. 19. Somalia: Over 85% of the population is of Somali ethnicity, which is generally classified as Black African. 20. Lesotho: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Sotho). 21. Botswana: Over 90% of the population is Black African (primarily Tswana). 22. Zimbabwe: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Shona and Ndebele). 23. Mali: Over 90% of the population is Black African (primarily Mande groups). 24. Ivory Coast (Côte d’Ivoire): Approximately 90% of the population is Black African (primarily Akan and other groups). 25. Chad: Approximately 85% of the population is Black African (primarily Sara and other groups). 26. Uganda: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Baganda and other groups). 27. Kenya: Approximately 97% of the population is Black African (primarily Kikuyu and other groups). 28. Tanzania: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Sukuma and other groups). 29. Mozambique: Approximately 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Makhuwa and other groups). 30. Zambia: Over 99% of the population is Black African (primarily Bemba and other groups)
Oh shut the f*ck up, you've been deviating... I totally schooled you on the Indian rhetorics you've been talking about since, you are actively trying to not even mention them anymore, my comments on that is still holding... You couldn't even read a stat. right you idiot, the person you sent it to had to be the one that fixed it for you... Anyway, those comments are still holding.
So the Top Eleven countries outside of Jamaica are not even majorly Black Countries, you had to extend it all the way to 30 to make a point😂😂😂😂... In the Top 10 most violent countries, only 2 is majorly a Black Nation, well, i guess the other groups may be quite violent too😂😂😂. Bro, Latin America is damn violent, Goddamn, but to you "African Nations are the most violent"😂😂😂... Nobody is deflecting you fool, i just can't stop laughing at you not even being able to stand by your biased well.
Claim: Caribbean nations like Barbados are doing better economically than South Asian countries (excluding Singapore). Debunk: This claim does not hold when considering GDP size. • Barbados GDP (2024, Nominal): Approximately $5 billion. • South Asian Countries GDP (2024, Nominal): • India: $3.9 trillion • Bangladesh: $500 billion • Pakistan: $300 billion • Sri Lanka: $80 billion • Even smaller South Asian countries like Bhutan ($3 billion) or Maldives ($7 billion) have economies comparable to or larger than Barbados in nominal terms. India alone outstrips all Caribbean nations combined by a huge margin.
Conclusion: On the basis of total GDP, South Asian nations are far ahead of Caribbean nations like Barbados.
2. Per Capita Income
Claim: Barbados outperforms South Asian countries in per capita income. Debunk: This is partially true but requires context. • Barbados GDP per capita (2024): ~$17,000 (PPP: ~$25,000). • South Asian GDP per capita (2024): • India: ~$2,850 (PPP: ~$10,000) • Bangladesh: ~$3,000 (PPP: ~$8,200) • Sri Lanka: ~$3,600 (PPP: ~$14,000) • Maldives: ~$14,000 (PPP: ~$26,000). • While Barbados has higher per capita income compared to most South Asian nations, exceptions like the Maldives (also tourism-driven) and Sri Lanka (PPP basis) show comparable or better economic outcomes in specific measures.
Conclusion: Barbados outperforms on per capita income compared to larger South Asian nations, but the Maldives is at a similar level and higher in PPP terms.
3. Economic Structure and Dependence on Tourism
Claim: Caribbean nations are doing better economically because of tourism, but it doesn’t negate their performance. Debunk: While tourism supports GDP in both regions, South Asia’s economies are more diversified and resilient. • Barbados Tourism Dependency: Contributes over 30% of GDP and employs ~40% of the workforce. • South Asian Tourism Dependency: • Maldives: ~60% of GDP (heavily tourism-dependent, comparable to Barbados). • India: ~7% of GDP, demonstrating much more diversified sectors including IT, manufacturing, and agriculture.
South Asia also sustains large domestic markets that buffer external shocks like global travel restrictions (e.g., during COVID-19). Caribbean nations, on the other hand, suffered severe economic contractions when tourism dried up.
Conclusion: Barbados’s economic reliance on tourism makes it less resilient compared to more diversified South Asian economies like India or Bangladesh.
4. Poverty and Income Inequality
Claim: Caribbean nations are “better off” economically than South Asian nations. Debunk: Metrics like poverty rates and inequality suggest a more nuanced view. • Barbados Poverty Rate: ~15% (2024 estimate). • South Asia Poverty Rates: • India: ~16% (steadily declining due to rapid economic growth). • Bangladesh: ~20% (also improving). • Maldives: <5% (better than Barbados).
Inequality (Gini coefficient) in Barbados is also significant (~0.35), showing disparities similar to India (0.35) or Bangladesh (0.32).
Conclusion: Caribbean nations like Barbados are not universally “better off,” especially when comparing poverty and inequality metrics.
5. Economic Growth and Development Potential
Claim: Caribbean nations are ahead of South Asia economically. Debunk: South Asian economies are growing much faster and have greater potential. • 2024 Growth Rates: • India: ~6.5% (one of the fastest-growing major economies globally). • Bangladesh: ~5.6%. • Barbados: ~2.5%. • Development Potential: South Asia’s young populations and industrialization efforts position the region for sustained growth, while Caribbean nations face challenges like small market size, limited diversification, and climate risks.
Conclusion: South Asian nations have far greater growth momentum and development potential than Caribbean nations.
6. International Influence and Strategic Importance
Claim: Caribbean nations are “doing better” overall. Debunk: South Asia’s geopolitical and economic influence far outweighs that of the Caribbean. • India: A global power with significant influence in technology, pharmaceuticals, and geopolitics. • Bangladesh: A rising manufacturing hub (garments, textiles). • Caribbean Nations: Primarily reliant on tourism, with limited global influence or diversified exports.
Conclusion: South Asian nations have more global impact and economic significance than Caribbean nations like Barbados
Now i see you're a true Nigerian, the last statement comfirmed it for me... Many Nigerians will pick world power anyday even if the economy is askewed by population. No wonder you've been delusionally praising India since the very get go, even having the guts to compare them to the UK.
Well, i'm not that guy, i don't care about global view, or Super powers; i care about the economic impact of the Citizens in the country i'm from, i care about the standard of living, the health care system, and others, because that is what actually matters in a country... Not who's outwardly the most powerful, now i see why you use absolute GDP all the time.
To you, India may very well be doing better than Estonia, to me, Estonia is doing way better than India... And to any logical person, they'd pick Estonia, but i understand the Nigerian power dynamic, so i understand your mentality now.
Sladem05: South Africa has declined majorly particularly economically. Look at what happens when you blacks take over things. We run it into the ground. I’m not portraying India as more than it is. I’m just offended that you’re comparing it to the monkey like black societies.
Latin America and Asia are seeing tremendous growth. The carribean and Africa not so much. There is actually no successful black nation out there. They are all poor and violent.
Another stupid take, Can you please stop with that violent rhetoric, just because you grew up in Nigeria doesn't mean that's the Rhetorics for many other Nations... Ghana's murder rate is 1.8, Bissau is 1.1, and there are so many others, but i guess you will inaccurate stats. again right?... Anyway, just because ours is at 21 doesn't mean all Black Nations are violent you numbskull.
By the way, i've been noticing how you are deviating of my other comments, huh🤔.
Sladem05: Bro what are you doing? I’ll debunk you even harder if you try and compare black societies globally. Asian, Latin and European countries are light years ahead of blacks 😂. We only good at building monkey civilisations. Get real. The likelihood of Nigeria breaking up in the future is moderate to high, depending on how its deep-rooted challenges are managed. In the short term (5-10 years), outright fragmentation is unlikely because the federal government has a strong military, centralized control over resources, and significant international support to maintain its territorial integrity. However, tensions will persist, particularly in the Southeast with the IPOB secessionist movement and in the Niger Delta over resource control.
In the long term (10-30 years), the risk increases if key issues—like ethnic and regional divisions, economic inequality, governance failures, and insecurity—are left unaddressed. Persistent dissatisfaction in marginalized regions, coupled with worsening insecurity (e.g., insurgencies, banditry), could lead to stronger separatist movements or a complete weakening of state authority. While Nigeria has weathered such challenges before, continued instability without reforms to decentralize power or address grievances significantly raises the odds of fragmentation in the future. No black led society can ever do well. Never in a trillion years.
"No black led society can ever do well. Never in a trillion years".
Is that also one of your stats.?
You mentioned South Asian countries, take away Singapore, no South Asian countries is doing better than Barbados economically; you could say their economy mainly comes from tourism, but it doesn't negate the fact that they're doing better than all South Asian Nations bar Singapore... In fact, many Carribean Nations are doing better economically than South Asian Nations; fine, like i said before, tourism, but this is about who's doing better right
Sladem05: Wow you now want to shift the goalpost. There are no black nations doing well. All black countries and societies are doomed to failure. The Carribean countries used the economic system left by the Brits. Blacks have proven incapable of constructing a successful civilisation. Most of the carribean is impoverished. The ones that aren’t are under European /Western control. Black Societies are about as functional as monkey civilisations. Monkey civilisations is an insult
You’re a complete fool if you think prosperity is only with the west and east Asia and the gulf. Latin America, South Asia and mroe parts of the world disagree. Mexico and Brazil on their own have a GDP larger than any Black Country on earth. There are no successful black societies out There.
Here he goes with absolute GDP and not Per Capita again... Does this guy even realise that the people makes a country and not the other way around😂😂😂.
By absolute GDP, Brazil is richer than Norway as a country, but which does their country have a higher standard of living, better health system, wage system?... But yet Brazil is richer than Norway as a country by absolute GDP🤷🤷🤷, it's really bad when you use stats. a lot but don't even understand them.
Sladem05: I wouldn’t even trust Nigeria’s numbers. Nigeria wouldn’t collect its data anywhere near as well as other countries even India. Nothing works there. But the point is you said Indians are fleeing even though more people from other countries are fleeing.
Net Migration: What It Actually Means • A negative net migration rate (e.g., India at -0.3) indicates more people are leaving the country than coming in. • A positive net migration rate (e.g., South Sudan at +19.1) means more people are entering the country than leaving.
So, yeah, India’s -0.3 and Nigeria’s -0.2 are clear signs of more outflow than inflow—and you’re spot on that this shows how many people want to leave, particularly in India’s case.
India vs. Nigeria: What these Stats Actually Show 1. India (-0.3 Net Migration): • This is a high emigration rate for a country its size. People leave in large numbers for better jobs, education, and opportunities abroad—it’s true, many Indians are eager to leave. • The massive Indian diaspora and news about illegal border crossings (e.g., Canada to the US) highlight this. People don’t flee en masse from a country they’re fully satisfied with, no question there. 2. Nigeria (-0.2 Net Migration): • Nigeria has less outflow proportionally, but it’s not because Nigerians are happier at home—it’s just that migration barriers are higher for many Nigerians. • Nigerians still try to migrate illegally (e.g., the Mediterranean route to Europe), but the lower net migration rate suggests that fewer Nigerians succeed in leaving compared to Indians.
Nigeria’s lower rate (-0.2) just means fewer Nigerians are leaving proportionally, but that doesn’t automatically mean Nigerians are more satisfied with staying—it’s more about access and opportunities to migrate.
Nigerians are less likely to leave because they are more likely to be banned from other countries than Indians. You reason like an FBA. Migration rate is a terrible metric for development. You brought that up. All I said is that India’s migration rate is not amongst the highest in the world. It being slightly higher than Nigeria which is down to Indians having an easier time going abroad is meaningless.Nigerians can’t really leave the country or at least anywhere as easily as an Indian can. The Indian passport is far more powerful than the Nigerian one.
Now the guy brings out systemic issues again to defend😂😂😂... It was never about the systemic issues for the Black community, but for others, of course YES.
"Migration rate is a terrible metric for development. You brought that up".
Then you are an actual fool... Migration rate, and the pattern of migration, is very telling on how people view their region, stop this useless deflecting, i'm actually done with this now.
Non of the videos i sent to you was talking about legal immigration, one was even talking about the systemic issues, and it's so amazing how similar the few he mentioned is to Nigeria's; this is an Indian saying just a few of the issues this time, not even a Nigerian, and you still want to deflect.
No citizen of any Stable working country finds way to leave by any means possible... When have you even seen anyone from Canada, Belgium, England etc, doing whatever it takes to flee to another country illegally?, the answer simply is No, hardly any of their citizens, because people in a stable working country are not that desperate; illegal mass migration is very telling to how Citizens view their country.... I was already done with you when you tried comparing India and UK, i am beyond done with your delusion now.
You wanted facts, i brought loads this time, but the deflection continues... I even gave you a video of someone explaining the systemic issues in India which is very uncanny to Nigeria's, but i guess since it's not a Black Nation, biases must the come into play.
"Nigerians are less likely to leave because they are more likely to be banned from other countries than Indians".
You really used this stupid take for a country were everyone wants to leave by any means possible, and their net migration still isn't as high... The guy even deflected with he doesn't trust the stats. coming from Nigeria; but the India with extreme corruption still rifed in their system can be trusted... The crazy thing is i'm not even surprised at the biases anymore at this point.
India is a shithole, stop deflecting, like i will always say, that doesn't mean it's not doing way better than Nigeria, i have never denied this nor have i ever hyped Nigeria; but doing better than Nigeria doesn't mean a place isn't still a SHITHOLE.
Sladem05: Indians are more welcomed overseas than Nigerians and they will obviously have more people in raw numbers leaving than Nigeria. Per capita they would be slightly higher means nothing. I just had to debunk your argument that Indians are fleeing where else per capita wise they are actually not fleeing as much as you’re making it out to be. I argue with empirical information, you argue with anecdotal BS.
And immigrating to another country is not inherently bad. I told you think like an FBA. You think everyone is a tether 😂
"I just had to debunk your argument that Indians are fleeing where else per capita wise they are actually not fleeing as much as you’re making it out to be".
Bro, you are an actual fool who can't accept when he's wrong... You brought in statistics that you didn't even know the meaning of... I know you actually thought that net migration of 19.5 means people are leaving the country a lot when it's the actual opposite😂😂😂.
India has a higher immigration rate to other countries at -0.3 compared to Nigeria. You don't even know the stats. you brought out😂😂😂.
Nigeria has a lower net migration rate than India at -0.2, that is really telling bro, and hardly anyone migrates to Nigeria... That means even Nigerians are not that desperate to leave Nigeria as much as Indians are to leave India😂😂😂, and even Nigerians are fleeing en masse😂😂😂, but still not up to the almighty Indians😂😂😂.
I swear to God, this dude brought out a stats. that he can't read, you literally brought out a stat. that you can't read, this is really shocking, the stats. dude can't read his own stats😂😂😂... And sh*t the f*ck up talking about empirical evidence, you've been saying bullshit ever since, this was just the icing on the cake. Ignorant idiot😂😂😂.
Sladem05: Here is a list of the top 30 countries with the highest net migration rates (migrants per 1,000 population): 1. Ukraine: 36.5 2. South Sudan: 19.1 3. Venezuela: 13.2 4. British Virgin Islands: 12.9 5. Equatorial Guinea: 12.3 6. Cayman Islands: 11.4 7. Luxembourg: 10.9 8. Monaco: 10.5 9. Anguilla: 10.5 10. Turks and Caicos Islands: 8.4 11. Aruba: 8.1 12. Ireland: 6.8 13. Burundi: 6.8 14. Cyprus: 6.7 15. Australia: 6.4 16. Saudi Arabia: 6.1 17. Switzerland: 6.0 18. San Marino: 5.9 19. Sint Maarten: 5.8 20. Canada: 5.4 21. Malta: 5.0 22. New Zealand: 4.8 23. Liechtenstein: 4.8 24. Isle of Man: 4.5 25. Djibouti: 4.4 26. Spain: 4.2 27. Singapore: 4.2 28. Belgium: 4.2 29. Netherlands: 4.1 30. Norway: 3.8 You just want to exaggerate how bad India is. It doesn’t even have anywhere near the highest net migration rate.
Well, you just shut yourself on the foot, this is the meaning of net migration👇... Now i've comfirmed that you're just a "follow the raw figures" guys, or follow the crowd as they say, and you don't even know what you talk about.
Now why a Nation like South Sudan will have a ratio of 19.1 this year, i don't f*cking know; but then again, it's kinda understandable, a lot of South Sudanese don't leave South Sudan, and there are a lot of Sudanese taking refuge due to the issue in Sudan, so that could be it... The way i just thought about that right now is something you will never think in your life, because to you, Raw figures are the supreme ultimate.
India has a Net migration of -0.3, Nigeria is at a -0.2... India has statistically (let me go with your statistics), a higher net rating of People leaving the country compared to people migrating into the country, there are more people ler ratio trying to migrate to Nigeria than there are trying to migrate to India.
Like i told you before, nobody is desperate enough to flee emasse from a Stable working Nation through any means possible, especially Illegally, to the point of even Millions of people saying they're ready to relinquish their Citizenship just to migrate to a Developed country.
Sladem05: All you’ve done is 1. Hype up Nigeria and underrate india. I never said India was a utopia but it has far better prospects. I can’t wait for Nigeria to break up in a couple years time and India is still flourishing. Deep down, you know that Nigeria is nowhere near the level of India. A country that doesn’t even have basic amenities like good roads, stable power, rule of law etc is what you’re comparing to India? You’re a fool. You’re the one that is clueless about this world.
2. Not acknowledge the failure of black Americans especially relative to others.
3. Behaved like a typical FBA clown. Here’s a more concise and humanized response:
1. “No you didn’t, you idiot… You never once proved that Black wealth was diminishing. If anything, like I said before, it’s grown since 2017.”
It’s true that Black wealth has grown in absolute terms, but the wealth gap between Black and White households has widened. Wealth inequality isn’t just about growth; it’s about how opportunities and resources are distributed. Ignoring that bigger picture oversimplifies the issue.
2. “Nobody said ‘don’t acknowledge the other forms of discrimination,’ nobody said that. Struggles are not meant to be diminished, but at the same time, all struggles are not equal…”
Struggles are different, not necessarily “unequal.” Black Americans faced a unique legacy of slavery and systemic exclusion, but other communities, like Asians and Latinos, also faced severe barriers. Their experiences differ, but comparing doesn’t mean diminishing.
3. “You’ve been using the systemic issues Asians and Latinos faced as a comparative quantification to vilify the Black American community from the onset…”
No one is vilifying the Black community. Bringing up other groups’ struggles is about understanding how racism and systemic barriers affect everyone differently, not about undermining Black history or achievements.
4. “You want to compare their wealth difference but don’t want to compare the differences of their systemic issues…”
Fair point—wealth disparities can’t be separated from systemic issues. For example, redlining hurt Black Americans’ ability to build wealth, just as immigration bans limited opportunities for Asian families. Both systems shaped today’s inequalities in different ways.
5. “The same groups you’re comparing to the Black community since the very onset were actively favored more than the Black community for a long time after the Civil Rights Movement.”
This oversimplifies things. Some groups benefited from post-1965 policies, like skilled visas for Asians, but they still faced racism and exclusion. Saying they were “favored” ignores the nuanced ways systemic barriers hit all minorities differently.
6. “Please don’t put the Anti-Asian Immigration Act when talking about U.S racial history in the same sentence as the discrimination of the Black community…”
These issues are different, but they’re part of the same system of racial injustice. Black Americans were citizens facing systemic exclusion, while Asians were barred from even entering. Both are vital pieces of U.S. racial history.
7. “Since we’ve been talking: You’ve disrespected Black American history…”
That’s not the intention. Discussing other groups’ struggles doesn’t mean disrespecting Black history—it means showing how deep and pervasive racism is across all communities. Everyone’s story matters.
This isn’t about ranking struggles; it’s about recognizing the different ways systemic racism impacts people and understanding those nuances to fight for real change.
"This oversimplifies things. Some groups benefited from post-1965 policies, like skilled visas for Asians, but they still faced racism and exclusion. Saying they were “favored” ignores the nuanced ways systemic barriers hit all minorities differently"
Bro, it doesn't oversimplifies things, stop using that word, it's just a word you keep using to dilute disparities... They were literally favoured, i literally sent an article talking about this favouritism, even screenshoted it, but yet, you try skimming it... Someone is being favoured more than you in your own neighborhood is not oversimplification, it's just facts.
Did the meaning of favouritism change in the dictionary?.
1)😂😂😂, i never even once hyped up Nigeria, in fact, i may actually hate this country more than you... I just know when to be mutually objectively about things, and bring in perspectives; i never once said Nigeria was better than India, in fact, i have constantly even with my talk about India keep on saying that "they're still doing way better than us though".... My perspective is that India is more similar to Nigeria than it is to the UK you tried comparing it to; they have secessionist issues just like Nigeria, it may not be as serious, but they're definitely there, i've watched Punjabis still talking about the issues to this day; they have deep cultural and ethnic issues that's a serious detriment to them, just like Nigeria... I never said Nigeria was better than India, i said India is systemically more similar to Nigeria than it is to the UK you tried comparing it to... Even their GDP per capita is way closer to us than it is to the UK.
The way you've been hyping up India even comparing it to The UK originally, India is not that country dude, a lot of people fleeing from a country be it legally or illegally is nothing to be proud about, or twist to say "It's globalisation that is favouring them"... Nobody flees en masse from a good working country, who the f*ck does that; look at the newsline the other day of thousands of Indians illegally trying to migrate from Canada into the U.S through the border; they're ready to flee and restart their lives in the U.S, but aren't ready to do that in India, and you want me to start only looking at raw numbers like you?.... Bro, the world is way more complex than statistics.
This is the India you want to talk about, 5000 illegals in just a month, and that's just from the Canadian side👇... Like i continue asking you, who flees en masse from a stable working country?; and not even legally, illegally for crying out loud... Do you know how desperate thousands of people have to be to do that in the space of a month?. Yes, people migrate from stable working countries, but hardly anybody is that desperate to migrate from stable working countries.
These are Indians doing a Nigerian, and illegally entering the UK, the same UK you tried comparing them with🤦🤦... No UK citizen will do this rubbish to migrate to India, but you want to compare them.
The similarities are so uncanny that you have to be really biased to not see it👇... Still, i'm not comparing India to Nigeria, i'm saying that they're more similar to us than they are to the UK you tried comparing them to; these are just a few issues, and the similarities are already so uncanny.
This is the India you want to hype up for me, someone who has done a deep dive on that country, someone who has friends from their neighbours, and get bombarded with news constantly about India this, or India that... When i said India is a shithole, i never said it wasn't doing better than Nigeria, i've always butress that they're doing way better than Nigeria, but doing better than Nigeria doesn't mean that it still isn't a SHITHOLE... Like i said, you're speaking to the wrong crowd on the India topic.
This is the reason why i said i'm tired of the conversation with you, you don't understand how to bring perspective into things, systemic issues are basically a non-issue to you, it's raw numbers this, raw numbers that, if only humans and human societies were that simple, we would all be living amazingly... You don't even realise that humans are more complex based off the systemic issues than the various statistics you keep bringing up.
Sladem05: No, black societies ALWAYS FAIL. They are violent, poor, barbaric. They don’t function. Look at what happened to South Africa when blacks took over. What a failed race.
So i was not going to bother because i was getting bored, and then i saw this... Now it's starting to making sense, are you self-hating?, because there are telltale signs of that here; Example, your use of the term "They", it denotes dissociation of yourself as a Black man, which tells me you're either a Nigerian diaspora that has been away from Nigeria for a very long time, or a staunch secessionist Nigerian... But in any case, it tells a story of being blinded by delusioned Black rhetorics partly from your biases, maybe due to the movement you so wish to happen not happening how you want, which brings me back to the secessionism; so i will take it that you're most likely Igbo.
If the tribe is correct, it may also tell me how you were fast to defend Nigerians when i talked about countries where Nigerians are not really seen in a good light.
"Look at what happened to South Africa when Blacks Took Over"... Huh, well, South Africa under Apartheid was what?, Good?... The way you talk sometimes, or maybe it's the way you fix your comment; it just feels like you're a Black apologist or something, i don't want to use the "Uncle Tom" rhetoric, because i don't think you've gone that far yet, but you're getting there... Because look at the way you mentioned South Africa right, one who doesn't know about the White rule will think that it was this peaceful Nation with amazing equality for all, no disproportionate violent and barbaric discrimination, and were everyone lived happily with a big smile on their face.
I also noticed it when you talked about the KKK, the way you talked about them like this "Oh, they did this sh*t, but it's alright", and then, the way you talked about Black Nations now, it just went straight up damning... Also the way you've been portraying India way more than it actually is, while constantly putting the systemic issues by the wayside, but won't think twice to call that of Nigeria's, was also a sign.
And by the way, outside of Western Nations, which includes Western European countries, and the whole of Europe to some extent, the U.S, Australia, and New Zealand; some Asian Nations like Japan, South Korea, China, and some Middle Eastern Nations; i might be forgeting a few, but that's the general core group... Outside of those Nations anyway, no majority Non-Black Nation is doing particularly well. There are a lot of stable Nations, which you also have a lot in Africa by the way, but no one is doing particularly well, maybe except the few that like i said, i might be forgeting, oh, add Singapore to the list, i did forget that, though Singaporeans are always complaining about everything being too expensive, but that can be alluded to their heavy dependency of Importation.
And there are Black Nations doing very well, stop that self-hating cap, they are not many, but there are; The Bahamas is doing very well, quite a decent amount of Carribean Nations are doing decently actually, a few very well, some just alright.
Sladem05: And for the last time concerning black wealth, I will debunk you again. Based on the data and trends, Black wealth in the United States is getting worse relative to other racial groups, even if there have been some recent nominal gains.
Why It’s Getting Worse: 1. Wealth Gap Widening: • Despite some increases in median Black household wealth (e.g., recent gains from $24,000 in 2019 to $45,000 in 2022), the wealth gap between Black and white households has grown in absolute terms. White household median wealth is now $242,000 higher than Black household wealth. 2. Structural Inequities: • Historical systemic barriers, such as redlining, discriminatory lending, and labor market disparities, continue to hinder wealth accumulation for Black families. • Black millennials and Gen Z are less likely to inherit wealth compared to their white counterparts. 3. Zero Wealth Projection: • A 2017 report projected that if trends persist, the median Black household could reach $0 wealth by 2053. Even with recent gains, this alarming trajectory has not been fully reversed. 4. Fragility of Gains: • Recent increases in Black wealth are primarily tied to short-term factors like homeownership during a favorable housing market, which remains fragile and volatile. 5. Intergenerational Barriers: • White families are benefiting more significantly from intergenerational wealth transfers, perpetuating and even widening the wealth gap.
While there have been some recent gains in Black wealth, these are insufficient to counteract long-term systemic disparities. Without targeted interventions and structural reforms, the outlook suggests continued relative decline. In relative terms, Black wealth is getting worse, not better.
On the other hand
Latino Americans:
1. Income & Wealth Growth: • Median Household Income: Latino median household income in the U.S. has been steadily rising. As of the most recent data, it’s around $65,000 which is about 70% of the national average of $78,000. This is a significant increase from previous decades, largely driven by the growing number of Latino professionals and entrepreneurs. • Wealth Growth: Latino Americans’ wealth is on the rise, especially in communities with higher levels of education and homeownership. As of 2022, the Latino purchasing power was estimated at $2.6 trillion, and it’s expected to reach $2.9 trillion by 2025. This growth is mainly from increased labor force participation and entrepreneurship. • Homeownership: While still behind white Americans, Latino homeownership has been growing, which is a major driver of wealth. In fact, Latino-owned households are buying homes at an increasing rate, contributing to long-term wealth growth.
2. Contribution to the U.S. Economy: • Labor Force: Latinos represent nearly 20% of the U.S. workforce and are especially concentrated in industries like agriculture, construction, and hospitality. Without their labor, certain sectors would collapse, highlighting their crucial role in the U.S. economy. • Entrepreneurship: Latino entrepreneurship is booming. Over 4.7 million Latino-owned businesses exist today, and they’re growing faster than businesses owned by other racial or ethnic groups. These businesses are vital in driving local economies, creating jobs, and promoting innovation.
3. Future Outlook: • The future looks promising for Latino wealth. With a younger population (a large proportion of Latinos are under 35), there’s potential for further wealth accumulation, particularly as educational attainment rises and intergenerational wealth transfers start to play a bigger role.
Asian Americans:
1. Income & Wealth Growth: • Median Household Income: Asian Americans as a group have the highest median household income among racial groups in the U.S., at around $94,000, which is higher than the national average. However, there are disparities within the Asian American community—Indian Americans, for example, have much higher incomes, while certain Southeast Asian groups (e.g., Cambodian, Hmong) lag behind. • Wealth Accumulation: Asian Americans have historically had higher levels of wealth compared to Black and Latino Americans, thanks in part to higher rates of homeownership and more established business ownership. In fact, Asian Americans have one of the highest rates of homeownership, particularly among Indian, Chinese, and Korean Americans. • Education & Job Opportunities: Asian Americans generally have higher educational attainment, which translates into better-paying jobs. Many are concentrated in high-tech industries, engineering, healthcare, and finance, all of which have higher average salaries.
2. Contribution to the U.S. Economy: • Innovation and Entrepreneurship: Asian Americans, especially Indian Americans, have made a major impact in sectors like technology and healthcare. For example, nearly 1 in 4 STEM (science, technology, engineering, math) professionals in the U.S. is Asian. Many Silicon Valley tech companies have been founded or led by Asian Americans, contributing immensely to the country’s economic growth. • Labor Force: Like Latinos, Asian Americans represent a significant portion of the workforce. Beyond tech, Asian Americans are also highly visible in fields like healthcare, where they are crucial in roles such as doctors, nurses, and medical researchers.
3. Future Outlook: • The Asian American population is expected to continue growing, especially among immigrant communities. This means their economic influence will likely increase as well, with expanding educational attainment and a rise in entrepreneurial activity.
Compared to Black Americans:
1. Wealth Disparities: • Black Wealth: Black median wealth remains significantly lower than that of Latino and Asian Americans. As of 2022, Black median wealth was around $24,000, compared to $45,000 for Latino families and $187,000 for Asian families. The wealth gap between Black and white Americans is widening, and Black Americans still face systemic barriers that make it harder to accumulate wealth.
2. Historical Barriers to Wealth: • Black Americans continue to face historical injustices like slavery, segregation, and discriminatory practices (e.g., redlining, unequal access to loans). These structural barriers have prevented Black communities from accumulating wealth at the same pace as Latinos or Asians. • Additionally, Black Americans often face lower rates of homeownership and wage disparities, which severely limit wealth-building opportunities. The wealth gap is compounded by lower levels of intergenerational wealth transfers, which means Black families are starting at a disadvantage compared to Latino and Asian Americans.
3. Employment & Education: • While Black Americans are making strides in educational attainment and career advancement, they are still disproportionately affected by unemployment and underemployment. Black professionals earn less than their white counterparts for the same work, and Black students face barriers in accessing higher education. • The rise of the Black entrepreneurial sector is a positive sign, but the overall percentage of Black businesses remains much lower than that of Latinos and Asians. Black Americans are also less likely to have access to generational wealth, making it harder to invest in education, real estate, or businesses.
Conclusion: bright, with steady increases in income, wealth, and economic contributions. Rising homeownership rates, educational attainment, and entrepreneurial activity are driving this growth. Their critical role in the U.S. labor force and growing purchasing power solidify their position as a cornerstone of the economy. If these trends continue, Latinos will likely see significant wealth gains over the next few decades. • Asian Americans: Asian Americans are the highest earners among all racial groups in the U.S., with substantial wealth accumulation fueled by high educational attainment, tech industry dominance, and successful entrepreneurship. While disparities exist within Asian communities, overall, their financial trajectory is upward, and they are set to continue leading in wealth accumulation and innovation. • Black Americans: Despite some progress, Black Americans are at a disadvantage compared to Latinos and Asians. The racial wealth gap persists, and projections of median Black household wealth potentially reaching zero by 2053 highlight the urgency of systemic reform. Historical barriers, lower homeownership rates, and employment disparities continue to impede wealth growth. Without significant policy interventions or structural changes, Black Americans may struggle to achieve financial parity
I see you've copied from an article again... Please, i will tell you again, read carefully what you just wrote, and read about the systemic issues you just wrote, and that you're clearly trying to put as a bypass option; becauss it seems you always contradict yourself without ever realising it.
And nowhere in the article you just copied did it same Black wealth was diminishing, it just says it's not increasing as much as the Latino nor Asian community🤦🤦🤦.
Sladem05: You didn’t. I debunked all your claims about black wealth. I proved to you that their wealth is diminishing.
Alright, let’s go through your text piece by piece and address each claim or argument step by step. I’ll clarify misunderstandings, correct inaccuracies, and point out logical inconsistencies.
1. “Huh, you never proved that Black wealth isn’t improving… I debunked that your nonsense 2017 article 0 wealth a long time ago…” • Response: • The claim about Black wealth stagnation comes from credible research, like the report by the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), which projects Black median wealth hitting $0 by 2053 if current trends continue. This isn’t a “nonsense” article but a widely cited analysis of systemic wealth inequality. • If you believe this projection has been debunked, it’s your responsibility to provide evidence that Black wealth trends are improving significantly. Data from the Federal Reserve and Brookings Institution suggests otherwise. Blacks are getting poorer
2. “Wait, the Exclusion Act? Are you talking about the Chinese Exclusion Act of the 1800s, or the Anti-Asian immigration laws of the 1800s–early 1900s?” Response: • Yes, the Chinese Exclusion Act (1882) and related policies barred Asian immigrants based on race. It was one of the earliest examples of explicitly racist federal immigration laws. • While this primarily targeted immigrants rather than citizens, it reflects the same institutional racism that dehumanized people based on ethnicity. My argument was not that these laws are the same as what Black Americans faced, but that they’re part of a broader history of racial oppression in the U.S.
3. “So wait, let me get this straight, to you, that is discrimination, or a comparable discrimination to what Black Americans faced?” Response: • No, I did not claim they were “comparable” in severity or scope. Slavery and Jim Crow laws were uniquely devastating to Black Americans and involved atrocities like segregation, lynching, and generational disenfranchisement. • My point is that systemic discrimination takes many forms. The Chinese Exclusion Act, though different, shows how a government can codify racism into law, impacting targeted groups for generations.
4. “That is like saying when Donald Trump banned the citizens of some Muslim countries from coming to the U.S., and because of that, you then go, ‘Yes, this is comparable to slavery.’” • Response: • This analogy oversimplifies my point. The Trump-era Muslim ban wasn’t comparable to slavery but was still discriminatory. Both the Muslim ban and the Chinese Exclusion Act reflect xenophobic policies that reinforced racial hierarchies. It’s not only blacks that receive/received racial hates • Acknowledging one doesn’t minimize the other—it’s about understanding how governments enforce exclusion in different contexts.
5. “Bro, sht the fck up, you’re actually delusional. Jesus Christ, are you this dumb on perspective?” • Response: • Insults don’t strengthen your argument. Let’s keep the focus on facts rather than emotional attacks. If you believe my perspective is flawed, show why with reasoned arguments and evidence.
6. “So a government telling people from another country to stay in their country, to you, is the same or should even be put in the same sentence as people literally being lawfully segregated, lynched, used as test subjects for syphilis, and having communities burnt down?” • Response: • Again, no one equated these experiences. The Chinese Exclusion Act targeted immigrants, while Jim Crow targeted citizens. They are different in nature, but both are examples of institutional racism. • My point is to illustrate how systems of exclusion have been used against various groups throughout U.S. history, not to say they’re equally severe or interchangeable.
7. “I will tell you what you told me some time ago: stop smoking that weed you’re smoking.” • Response: • Personal attacks don’t add value to this discussion. Let’s stick to the evidence and avoid unnecessary hostility.
8. “I hate to say this, but you are actually an ignorant fool. Though I’m not even surprised because this is quite common among Nigerians…” • Response: • This comment is offensive and uncalled for. Resorting to ethnic stereotyping undermines your credibility and derails the conversation. If your goal is to debunk arguments, focus on logic and evidence, not ad hominem attacks.
9. “The fact you brought in the Anti-Asian immigration acts as proportionate discrimination with Black Americans…” • Response: • I never argued the Chinese Exclusion Act was “proportionate” to slavery or Jim Crow laws. I brought it up to show how systemic racism has affected different groups in different ways. It’s not a competition oppression takes many forms.
10. “Cry me a river… KKK members are some of the most racist people you’d ever hear speak, but I’m not even going to be shocked if a few see what you just said as the talk of a mad person.” • Response: • The KKK’s actions were vile, but acknowledging other forms of racism doesn’t diminish that. This isn’t about one group’s suffering being “worse” but understanding the larger systems of oppression.
You’re a typical FBA fool.
😂😂😂... No you didn't you idiot... You never onced proved that Black Wealth was deminishing, if anything, like i said before, it's grown since that 2017.
Nobody said "don't acknowledge the other forms of discrimination", nobody said that, struggles are not meant to be diminished, but at the same time, all struggles are not equal... You've been using the systemic issues Asians and Latinos faced as a comparative quantification to vilify the Black American community from the onset, this is something you've constantly done in your comments, and now you want track back.
Bro, perspectives exists for a reason, you're an actual fool if you don't realise that, you want to compare their wealth difference, but don't want to compare the differences of their systemic issues, do you see were your biases lie, one can't work without the other... The same groups you're comparing to the Black community since the very onset were actively favoured more than the Black community for a long time after the Civil Rights Movement in their communities, and you still have the guts to talk about differences in Systemic discrimination... When a minority that is facing some discrimination, is still being favoured over you in your own community, you're literally at the bottom of the barrel, there is no other explanation for that; you are literally f*cked beyond explanation; so your take since the very onset of this conversation is still extremely bad, and very bias driven.
Please don't put the Anti-Asian immigration act when talking about the U.S racial history in the same sentence as the discrimination of the Black community... The Anti-Asian immigration act didn't give Asian communities no hope whatsoever because they still had their individual countries to rely on, they weren't even in the U.S, the act was a immigration policy to stop immigration of Asians, with the Asians already in their country; Black communities were being completely discriminated in their own country, their only option was to take it, and fight until it gets better, they are not even in the same league of discrimination.
Since we've been talking: * You've disrespected the Black American history. * Askewed the U.S racial history. * Tried to claim that other minority groups did just as much as the Black community in the Civil Rights Movement, that was so degrading and disrespectful, i won't even bother with that. * Use other minorities to vilify the Black American community, while setting the systemic issues by the wayside, you want to talk about wealth but don't want those factors to be talked about😂😂😂. * What others; and Oh, try to make India more than what it is... Yea, that's why their population are the majorly finding ways to leave the country, be it legally or illegally.
All i can say is kudos, you really are delusional about the World we live in.
Sladem05: You said that black financial status is improving. I debunked that as a lie and that the difference between black and Latin wealth is marginal when Latinos earn 16% more than they did and their GDP is 2x that of black America.
1. “Where did I claim it wasn’t higher? I brought up the stats’ The gap difference is clearly more than marginal is what im saying
2. “You write about systemic issues, then say ‘they’re not important.’” • Misinterpretation. Systemic issues like redlining and loan discrimination against Black Americans were never dismissed. Acknowledging that other groups faced different challenges doesn’t erase Black-specific injustices. 3. “You talked about loans given to Asian migrants in Black neighborhoods but still say others faced the same injustices.” • The favoritism shown toward Asian migrants in Black neighborhoods was an injustice against Black Americans. At the same time, Asian migrants faced broader systemic racism, like exclusion laws. These are distinct but not mutually exclusive realities. 4. “A group overlooked in favor of another group means they didn’t face the same injustices.” • True, they didn’t face identical injustices. But systemic racism affected multiple groups in different ways. Black Americans faced redlining, while Asians dealt with exclusion acts and internment—both forms of systemic oppression. Cry me a river 🤣 5. “You confirmed others were favored over Black people but still say they faced the same challenges.” • This isn’t contradictory. Black Americans faced unique injustices, like being overlooked in their neighborhoods, while other groups faced different systemic barriers. Recognizing this complexity doesn’t diminish anyone’s struggles
Huh, you never proved that Black weath isn't improving... I debunked that your nonsense 2017 article 0 wealth a long time ago... What the f*ck are you saying.
Wait, the Exclusion act?, are you talking about the Chinese Exclusion act of the 1800s, or the Anti-Asian immigration laws of the 1800s-Early 1900s?.
If that's what you're talking about; so wait, let me get this straight, to you, that is discrimination, or a comparable discrimination to what Black Americans faced?, so an older time migration policy is what you're comparing to what Black Americans faced in their own country?😂😂😂, that is like saying when Donald Trump banned the Citizens of some Muslim countries from coming to the U.S; and because of that, you then go "Yes, this is comparable to Slavery"😂😂😂... Bro, sh*t the f*ck up, you're actually delusional; Jesus Christ, are you this dumb on perspective. So a government telling people from another country to stay in their country, to you is the same or should even be put in the same sentence as people literally being lawfully Segregated, lynched, used as unknowning test subjects for syphilis, have communities they've grown burnt down, and so many other terrible occurrences in their own country; they are both proportionate discrimination to you?🙆🏾♂️🙆🏾♂️🙆🏾♂️WOW, just WOW.... I will tell you what you told me sometime ago, stop smoking that weed you're smoking.
I am done with this conversation, i hate to say this, but you are actually an ignorant fool, though i'm not even surprised because this is quite common among Nigerians... The fact you brought in the Anti-Asian Immigration acts as a proprotionate discrimination with Black Americans, and then go on and say "Cry me a River", not realising how ignorantly delusional your take just sounded, that is a very terrible take... I swear to God, KKK members are some of the most racist people you'd ever hear speak, but i'm not even going to be shocked if a few sees what you just said as the talk of a Mad person.
Sladem05: 1. “It totally matters who had it tougher, you saying it doesn’t matter is like saying someone who had a decent accident and someone who faced a literal war will have the same level of psychological trauma.” • This analogy oversimplifies the argument. No one is claiming all struggles are equal or interchangeable. The point is that systemic issues should be analyzed based on their unique contexts and impacts without trying to create a hierarchy of suffering. Comparing who “had it tougher” can lead to dismissing the progress or challenges of other groups, which isn’t constructive. 2. “You can’t deny the systemic issues Black people face in the U.S. in favor of the same other groups you’re mentioning.” • No one is denying the systemic racism and historical oppression faced by Black Americans. Highlighting the experiences of other groups doesn’t diminish the significance of these issues—it simply adds perspective to the broader conversation about systemic inequality and how it manifests differently for various groups. 3. “F*cking Asian migrants were favored above the Black community for a long time after the Civil Rights Movement in their own neighborhoods.” • While Asian migrants were sometimes positioned as a “model minority” to contrast with Black Americans, this was part of a racial hierarchy designed to divide marginalized groups. It didn’t erase systemic racism against Asian migrants, such as exclusion laws, internment, and workplace discrimination. The favoring of one group over another didn’t mean systemic issues disappeared for either group. 4. “Forget about the better wealth accumulation those Asian migrants accumulated in that time space, in the time space of loan favoritism, in the time space of redlining.” • Asian Americans did accumulate wealth in some cases, but this was not universal. Many still faced poverty and systemic barriers, especially among Southeast Asian refugees. The impact of redlining and loan discrimination on Black Americans is undeniable and remains a significant driver of wealth inequality. However, focusing only on the advantages of one group overlooks the systemic barriers they also faced
"However, focusing only on the advantages of one group overlooks the systemic barriers they also faced"
Given how this you comment has been carefully worded, one would think that you haven't completely overlooked the systemic issues Black American faced, because you have for the majority of our comments... I highlighted this section of your comment because i actively never focused solely on the the
Nobody is trying to create a hierarchy of suffering, but at the same time, it was hierarchical, and it was especially hierarchical in the United States; in a former comment, i stated that "I didn't want to compare, but your comments are forcing me to compare"; especially when you started talking about Latinos facing Systemic Segregation too before the Civil Rights Movement, and i gave you examples like the Mendez case... The fact is you throughout your comments overlooking and trying to merge the discrimination faced by Latino, and later Asians, and Blacks as the same thing was outright delusional, there are perspectives to discrimination, trying to clump all of them into the same boat is delusional, which is something you've been trying to do, especially when there been an outright bias of one group being favoured over the other in the country you speak about.
And i really do love the fact you brought in the Asians, because the Asians are a clear example of this perspective of discrimination, and discrimination in the United States... Trying to merge the discrimination faced by the Asians and Black Community since the Civil Rights Movement is the talk of a mad person, especially since one of those groups were literally purposefully being favoured for a long time over another group in the other group's neighbourhood... These are the 2 groups who's discrimination you're trying to clump together👇:... Also a link to the article if you want it: https://www.easternstandardtimes.com/article/asian-businesses-black-neighborhoods
How can you be so open to raw figures, but yet, so extremely narrowminded to how the world used to work and still works to a certain extent; do you think the world has always seen each other as equal?, do you think Humans have always seen each other as equals?... The modern world pushing for a mentality of Equality is actually a very valid push that nobody should joke with if there is to be a better future.
I once saw a Nigerian say that after the Civil Rights Movement, Black Americans automatically had equal rights, that is a very ignorant rubbish to spit out; Yes on paper, they did, but they also didn't for a very long time... That doesn't negate what other minorities faced, but trying to clump all of them together, when some have even outrightly been favoured to the detriment of the Black community is outright stupidity.
Where i gave up on this conversation and knew you were bias was when i brought out how Nigerians are not viewed in a very good light in some other countries outside of the United States, giving reasons and examples to why... You jumped to the defence of Nigerians in those countries like a Lion chasing its prey; if i'm not mistaken, that was the first time you used Systemic issues faced to actually defend a group in our conversation, and my question to you immediately after in no exact words was "You can easily defend Nigerians in these regions, bringing systemic issues into the mix, but you somehow don't have the mental fortitude to bring systemic issues into the mix when talking about Black Americans"... I've stopped trying to convince you since then, my comments since then has been just to let you know that your comments has been delusionally f*cked.
Sladem05: ‘You know what, i'm not even going to bother too much with this rantfilled nonsense you just wrote... I will only say one thing here, you said India was doing well, let me use you your own empirical information for you:
Fact: India is classified as a relatively Low Income country.
Fact: India has a per-capita GDP of $2600+.
Fact: India is still very multidimensionally poor’
India is not doing well but it’s not doing terribly. It is doing infinitely better than Nigeria. What’s crazy is that you don’t realise as to how insane. How can you compare Zoogeria to any country on earth?
Let me give you my reasons
Reasons India is Performing Well: 1. Economic Growth: India has been one of the fastest-growing major economies, with growth rates averaging 6–7% annually over the last decade. 2. Technological Advancements: India is a global leader in IT services, software development, and space technology (e.g., Chandrayaan-3 moon mission). 3. Infrastructure Development: Rapid urbanization and investment in transportation, energy, and digital connectivity are transforming many regions. 4. Global Influence: India’s role in international politics and trade, such as through the G20 presidency, is expanding
Overall, India is performing neither entirely “well” nor “terribly.” It shows remarkable progress in some areas while struggling with systemic issues like poverty, inequality, and underdeveloped infrastructure. Its trajectory indicates potential for improvement, but persistent challenges keep it from fully realizing its potential. But Nigeria is performing TERRIBLY.
‘This dude just gave all my points in one paragraph😂😂😂. Firstly: you are definitely copying off an article, are you that dumb?; one of your last sentences says "With a Population projected to surpass China"... Dude that already happened like 3-4 years ago. Which article did you get that from?, a 2015 one?😂😂😂’
I forgot to cite the projection but it doesn’t change the fact India is still on track to reach an economy that large.
‘Fact: Same nonsense you're ranting about India having an Economic growth, which is obviously mainly pushed by Population growth, this same projections were made about Nigeria in the last decade; by the way, that is what i've been trying to tell your little brain, nobody is trying to compare. Secondly: You just literally confirmed what i've been saying since, that the Indian economy is majorly driven by population growth, not developmental nor Industrial growth... That is the same way Nigeria's economy majorly grows, it's a complete false sense of growth, but you're too dumb to even understand that’
Why lie? 1. Services Sector: IT, financial services, and telecommunications are the largest contributors to GDP. 2. Industrial Growth: Expanding manufacturing and industrial sectors. 3. Exports: Software services, pharmaceuticals, and engineering goods are key export drivers. 4. Foreign Direct Investment (FDI): Significant investments in technology, infrastructure, and retail sectors India’s Gross Value Added (GVA) for the fiscal year 2023-24 is distributed across three primary sectors: • Services: 54.7% • Industry: 27.6% • Agriculture and Allied Activities: 17.7%

Within the Industry sector, the contributions are as follows: • Manufacturing: 14.27% • Construction: 8.91% • Electricity, Gas, Water Supply & Other Utility Services: 2.48% • Mining & Quarrying: 1.97%
The problems India is having is not really any different from what China had before they became what they are today.
‘Thirdly: You went on all those rant for a country who has more regions wanting to secede than the ones in Nigeria, have you done any digging into that country at all... Have you read about the Khalistan movement?, the North-Eastern Movement, the Kamtapur movement?, there are so many movements that i can't even list them all... You said Nigeria will most likely not be one by 2050; buddy, India is on the very same boat😂😂😂. Do some actual fucking reading for once instead of going on rants, or watching your propaganda channels.
Fourthly: As a kinda secessionist myself, i won't even be angry at a Nigeria separation😂😂😂, you just gave me the points i wanted😂😂😂’
Get off the weed, Comparing the stability of India to Nigeria. You’re crazy man. You can never go wrong with Nigeria. That country will never disappoint you. If you asked someone which country is more likely to balkanise India or Nigeria. Nigeria will always be picked. India and general most asian nations don't have anywhere the kind of instability, insecurity that's found in Nigeria. Nigeria was never meant to work. Trying to have Nigeria as one country is like trying to have England and china as one country or Saudi Arabia or the Vatican City. No country where 50% of the population is one religion (Christanity) and the other 50% is another (Islam) will never work. It’s a recipe for disaster. You have no clue as to what you’re talking about. India has much better rule of law, governance etc compared to Nigeria. India will be like a brown China in the future and Nigeria will become the next Sudan.
"India has much better rule of law, governance etc compared to Nigeria".
In no way did i ever deny this, why do you somehow think i'm comparing India to Nigeria... I said that India is more similar to Nigeria than it is to the UK, due to your comparison of the UK and India, which is outright delusion... In fact, my exact statement if i'm not mistaken was "India is more similar to Nigeria than it is to the UK, though they are doing way better than us, because we are a complete shithole"... So this comparison that you've always tought that i'm comparing Nigeria and India really baffles me, because my statement on Nigeria and India came from your delusional take on India and The UK, and that's when i told you that don't let absolute numbers fool you, especially for a country of 1.4+ Billion people.
"If you asked someone which country is more likely to balkanise India or Nigeria"
I don't need to ask anybody because India has already beaten Nigeria off the mark on that already, and with room for a lot more down the line... You think the Punjabis don't want their own country because they feel marginalized, you think the North-Easterners don't want their own country... India has a country literally has more seperatist movements than Nigeria as a country, that is a fact, are they more United even in their bid for secession, maybe; but it doesn't change the fact that like i said in my other comment, India is on the same both as Nigeria in terms of secession.
So you originally trying to make India out to be this rising utopia like you originally wanted to do, you're speaking to the wrong crowd dude, maybe speak to the people who has actually no done a deep research on the systemic issues of the country, maybe those will blindly believe you.
"India is performing neither entirely “well” nor “terribly.” It shows remarkable progress in some areas while struggling with systemic issues like poverty, inequality, and underdeveloped infrastructure. Its trajectory indicates potential for improvement, but persistent challenges keep it from fully realizing its potential".
Finally, you've said what i wanted to hear, this is literally the India that anyone who has done a deep dive on that country knows, not the rising utopia you've been trying to allude to since... And as for your last statement, so Nigeria of the 2000s and 2010s😂😂, because that is literally what was said about Nigeria in the 2000s/2010s, even the "persistent challenges keeps it from fully realising its potential" was said exactly the same😂😂😂; and that is why projections and trajectories without looking into the systemic issues will always make those projections delusional... If India starts tackling their Systemic issues, people may slowly start believing in them, but until they start doing that; all most will see is a country going up at face value, about to be shown the realitics of why systemic issues matters; and all i will see is a Nigeria projections of the 2000s/2010s that never referenced any of the systemic issues in Nigeria.
And having read about the Cultural and Ethnic systemic issues of India, you think it's not close to as bad as Nigeria's; maybe the Dalits and other issues will have to tell you to keep deceiving yourself... India's systemic issues doesn't just arise from Economical or everyday community issues, it's from the very mentality itself dating back cultural, ethnic, and religious norms. that are still normalized to a lot of degree; they need to start from the mentality itself... A similar issue is what's also affecting Nigeria systematically.
Sladem05: No, population growth is not the biggest factor behind India’s economy. While a large population provides India a vast labor force and consumer base, the primary drivers are its services sector (IT, finance, and telecommunications), which contributes over 50% to GDP, followed by manufacturing and exports like pharmaceuticals and software. Population growth also brings challenges, such as unemployment and resource strain, which can hinder their economic progress. Thus, India’s economic growth stems more from sectoral advancements and globalization than merely population size. By that logic, Nigeria should have a large GDP. Nigeria is not even the largest economy in Africa anymore. South Africa is now the Giant of Africa and that’s largely because their currency is nowhere as devalued. A pound and dollar is well over 1,500 NGN. But pound and dollar is much closer in value to rupee and rand.
Huh, Nigeria did have the highest GDP in Africa for a very long time, and yes, it was mainly based on population growth, our GDP did fall by $150 Billion in the last year... In the 1st half of the 2010s, we were literally almost always in the Top 5 highest growing economies.
Sladem05: ‘God, you're dumb... I lied about the Latino and Black household median difference😂😂😂... Bro, i didn't lie, i literally stated their different household media difference, how the f*ck is that lying, or are you too stupid to comprehend?’ You did lie by claiming that the difference is MARGINAL. just admit that you were wrong. I proved that the wealth gap be it on average or in totality is not marginal. Latin incomes are 15% higher and their GDP is like 2x the black one.
‘Read that statement again, you are so stupid that you've been writing about the Systemic discrimination faced by Black Americans, but at the same time, choose to ignore it, this is not the 1st time you've done it either, that's why i said in an earlier comment when i first noticed it that "It seems like you're just copying and pasting articles", because you're contradicting your own comments about the systemic discrimination faced by Black Americans with other things that you've been texting... This is the same systemic issues i've been talking about how Black Americans have had it the toughest of all groups outside of the Natives, but you wholeheartedly continue denying it in so many of your comments, saying "Other groups had it just as tough"... I didn't watch your video because i didn't need to after that 2017 rubbish you sent a few weeks back, which yes, i did debunk you slowpoke; and i didn't say they were propagandas, stop putting words in people's mouth, i specifically said "I don't know the propaganda shows you've been watching, but reduce them for your own sanity".
I then showed you a blatantly double standards in the Reparations history mainly in North America, you also choose to ignore that one... It seems like you're actually dumb’
I know blacks faced systemic discrimination. I’m not denying that. I’m just saying they can’t use that entirely as an excuse as to why they are such a trainwreck. They brought this upon themselves. Other groups did have it jsut as tough. I’ve shown that. And in fairness, it doesn’t actually matter as to who has had it tougher. At the end of the day, other ethnic groups are flourishing like Latins and Asians whilst blacks are failing.
"It doesn't matter as to who had it tougher", what the hell are you saying, did you study psychology?... It totally matters who had it tougher, you saying it doesn't matter is like saying someone who had a decent accident and someone who faced a literal war will have the same level of psychological trauma... Even you can't deny the systemic issues Black people face in the U.S in favour of the same other groups you're mentioning, and yet, you want a situation were those systemic issues won't be brought out, but lets rely solely on raw figures.
F*cking Asian migrants were favoured aboved the Black community for a long time after the Civil Rights Movement in their own neighborhoods; but oh, just forget about that... OK, fine, i guess we can also forget about the better Wealth accumulation those Asian migrants accumulated in that time space, in the time space of Loan favouritism, in the time space of Redlining, do you want to also forget about that and its effects on the raw figures?.
Sladem05: Just admit you were wrong about the wealth gap between Latinos and blacks. Asians are 20 million people in the US and their GDP is $1.5 trillion.!26/5 is your point?😂 You keep on going on about systemic reasoning where else Latinos and Asians also endured injustice. Blacks aren’t the only ones to have had or still have a sought time in America.
I gave you the raw numbers. Latino household incomes are 16% higher than blacks. Latino millennial wealth in average is 2x higher than blacks.
"Just admit you were wrong"... Are you a dumbass or something, where in any of my comments did i ever claim that it wasn't higher😂😂😂, i was even the first one that brought out their stats. on median income, or are you really that much of a dumbass.
Secondly: You literally write about the systemic issues, which obviously i think you copied from some article without actually reading them, but then revert back on the systemic issues you write about saying "They're not important"... You yourself talked about Redlining Black neighbourhoods faced, you yourself comfirmed how Asian migrants were given loans to open businesses in Black neighbourhoods for a long time, while the Black people in those same neighbourhoods will be heavily overlooked; but yet, you claim "Latinos and Asians also faced the same injustices"🤦🤦🤦.
Dude, a group are literally purposely overlooked in their own neighborhood in favour of a migrant group; but yet, to you, they faced the same injustices, do you understand what perspective is?... You confirmed in your former comments of how other groups will be favoured over the Black community after the Civil Rights Movement, and yet, you talk about them facing the same challenges; did you actually copy those things from an article without reading them, because your comments contradict themselves😂😂😂.
Sladem05: ‘You use Empirical information to back up your point?😂😂😂... Bro, comparing a country with a per capita of $2600 and one with a per capita of $56000 is mot empirical information, it's outright delusion... The fact that India has a per capita of $2600 is actual realistic Empirical information... I never use anecdotal nonsense; i compare my Empirical information with the systemic activities of the country’ When did I ever compare US and India? All I said is that India is not a shithole.
‘Fact: India has one the highest population in the world at 1.4+ billion, so a nominal GDP of 3.3+ Trillion is not exceptional, nor is them having the largest National biometric ID system, or an economic growth of 5.2 if i remember you correctly, or others... A 5.2 economic growth is very good from a face value perspective, but given a stacked population like that heavily driving the economy, it's not shocking’ Population is not the only factor behind a large GDP. Why is US economy larger than India and China combined when they don’t even have up to 1/6th of their population. I’m not saying India is doing well but it’s certainly doing better than most countries on earth.
‘The fact is you go by empirical information alone, not introducing systemic reasons that can contribute to that empirical information; and that's delusional... So saying the Indian GDP is set to surpass that of Japan while technically correct, doesn't mean India will be set to be doing better than Japan when their GDP surpasses them, or is even close to be doing better than Japan. There has to be systemic reasoning to any empirical information, or that information becomes delusional’
Empiricism is the best way to compare which country is objectively doing better. India is joining the club late but it will eventually reach US and China levels. If countries like India and China raised their GDP per capitas to numbers like 1/4 of a western country. Their economies would outweigh the others.
‘You've been giving projections on were India is set to be, i've been giving you the systemic reasons why that projections are like that, it doesn't change India from being a Shithole... We face similar projections in Nigeria in relation to Africa all the time, and even in the last decade, was up there in respect to the rest of the world, but only a delusional man will think those projections actually meant great progress; have you seen our population growth?’
I can’t take you seriously comparing Africans to Asians is like comparing monkeys to humans or jungles to civilisations. What part of no successful black society exists doesn’t your mind comprehend? Africa is a lost cause. Any black society is destined to fail. It’s Hilarious you even think that African countries wouldn’t have fragmented by then. Nigeria is the next Sudan. There is absolutely no way in hell Nigeria or any African country is achieving any meaningful prosperity. Never in a trillion years. You sound so stupid how can you compare African to Asian potential? Japan on its own with way less people has a larger GDP than all of Africa combined😂 whilst there is a shift in global power. That power shift is not going to Africa. Look at geopolitics experts like Zeihan. There is no way in hell Africa is pulling off what the Asian giants are expected to do.
‘In 2050, Nigeria is projected to become the 15th largest economy, surpassing a decent amount of European Nations... I'm going to ask you a question?, will Nigeria actually be economically better than those Nations?; Now, my answer is of course not, i want to hear yours... And that's why just spitting out statistical information without adding the systemic side of the region is outright delusion’
Again stop comparing black potential to Asian potential. There is -1000% probability that any African/black community on this planet will achieve any meaningful prosperity. You think there will be a Nigeria by 2050? Where else with India and other Asian giants, there is far more reason to believe that India will achieve its target of not just raising its GDP per capita but the country as a whole. India has the potential to match the economic and geopolitical power of the U.S. and China in both the short and long term due to its vast demographic dividend, rapid technological adoption, and strategic position in global trade and politics. With a population projected to surpass China and a growing middle class, India has the consumer base and workforce to drive sustained economic growth. Its emphasis on digital infrastructure, startups, and renewable energy further positions it as a future global powerhouse. Where your argument failed is you compared countries and continents of completely different calibres. I mentioned that India had surpass the UK to show their growing economic might. They are a top 5 world economy and you still come them a shithole?
And what systemic side are you on about? You’re trying to prove me that India is a shithole. You keep on failing at every direction. African and black countries are shitholes not Asian ones. And how we define shitholes is relative. India may seem bad for Asian standards. But it’s far more developed than most African countries. India’s HDI of 0.644 is higher than most African countries. The poorest and least developed Asian and Latin countries are better off in many cases than even the richest African ones.
‘You called India a Superpower, it's not considered a Superpower, it's considered an "Emerging Superpower", and that consideration has mainly been fueled by its high population... I will ask you this question, from an Economical perspective as an Individual, would you rather live in India or in England?; another question still from the same perspective, would you rather live in Nigeria or in Portugal?’
India is an emerging power that’s set to rival the U.S. and China at some point. India will eventually reach Mexico, Phillipines and China kind of numbers. Your comparisons are again useless
India vs England is meaningless because what does that prove? Offcourse India is not going to be as good as a western country to live. With Nigeria vs Portugal, that’s a ridiculous comparison comparing a jungle to a civilisation. I never said India is better off than England or any western country particularly at this moment in time but eventually it will be especially in the long term future. India is going to be along with the US, China, Brazil etc as a more advanced economy. Africa on the other hand is doomed to failure. Every black society is.
You know what, i'm not even going to bother too much with this rantfilled nonsense you just wrote... I will only say one thing here, you said India was doing well, let me use you your own empirical information for you:
Fact: India is classified as a relatively Low Income country.
Fact: India has a per-capita GDP of $2600+.
Fact: India is still very multidimensionally poor.
Fact: Same nonsense you're ranting about India having an Economic growth, which is obviously mainly pushed by Population growth, this same projections were made about Nigeria in the last decade; by the way, that is what i've been trying to tell your little brain, nobody is trying to compare.
"There is -1000% probability that any African/black community on this planet will achieve any meaningful prosperity. You think there will be a Nigeria by 2050? Where else with India and other Asian giants, there is far more reason to believe that India will achieve its target of not just raising its GDP per capita but the country as a whole. India has the potential to match the economic and geopolitical power of the U.S. and China in both the short and long term due to its vast demographic dividend, rapid technological adoption, and strategic position in global trade and politics. With a population projected to surpass China and a growing middle class, India has the consumer base and workforce to drive sustained economic growth."
This dude just gave all my points in one paragraph😂😂😂. Firstly: you are definitely copying off an article, are you that dumb?; one of your last sentences says "With a Population projected to surpass China"... Dude that already happened like 3-4 years ago. Which article did you get that from?, a 2015 one?😂😂😂.
Secondly: You just literally confirmed what i've been saying since, that the Indian economy is majorly driven by population growth, not developmental nor Industrial growth... That is the same way Nigeria's economy majorly grows, it's a complete false sense of growth, but you're too dumb to even understand that.
Thirdly: You went on all those rant for a country who has more regions wanting to secede than the ones in Nigeria, have you done any digging into that country at all... Have you read about the Khalistan movement?, the North-Eastern Movement, the Kamtapur movement?, there are so many movements that i can't even list them all... You said Nigeria will most likely not be one by 2050; buddy, India is on the very same boat😂😂😂. Do some actual fucking reading for once instead of going on rants, or watching your propaganda channels.
Fourthly: As a kinda secessionist myself, i won't even be angry at a Nigeria separation😂😂😂, you just gave me the points i wanted😂😂😂.
So all these ranting that you're ranting about India not being a Shithole, it is by all ramifications one... Now shut the Bleep up and go eat something.
Sladem05: ‘You gave an article from 2017, an article that was easily debunked by me... Then again, you said "Blacks are not seeing their financial status improving", something that doesn't take one google search away to debunk; are you this dense to understand that what you're saying is factually false?🤦🤦🤦... A projection told you that the U.S latinos will have a projected Economic impact of $114 Trillion by 2050, and you don't see the propaganda in that, don't you think?... And the funny one is you then said Blacks will be zero wealth by 2050, when it's not even hard to debunk that since 2017 that the article came out, the financial status and contribution of Black Americans has not even declined ones, but haa been improving’
You debunked nada and you didn’t even watch the video I sent about how and why the Latino GDP will reach over 110 trillion. You couldn’t distinguish GDP and wealth. You say it’s all propaganda but you’re talking out of your ass. What the guy said in the video is clear that the reason Latinos are projected to achieve said wealth is because 1. Rapid Population Growth: The Latino population in the U.S. has quadrupled since 1980, now exceeding 65 million people. This demographic expansion contributes to increased economic activity and wealth accumulation.  2. Entrepreneurial Activity: Latino-owned businesses have experienced substantial growth, with a 40% increase in ownership, marking the fastest rate in 30 years. This entrepreneurial surge enhances income generation and wealth creation within the community.  3. Rising Homeownership: Homeownership among Latinos has been on the rise, with real estate assets growing by 90% between 2019 and 2023. Owning property significantly contributes to wealth accumulation over time.  4. Educational Attainment: Increases in educational levels among Latinos have led to better employment opportunities and higher incomes, facilitating greater wealth accumulation. 5. Youthful Demographics: With a median age of 30.7 years, the Latino population is younger than other demographic groups, positioning them to enter their prime earning years, which supports long-term wealth growth.  6. Policy Support and Economic Inclusion: Government initiatives have aimed to reduce economic disparities, resulting in a 47% increase in Latino net worth between 2019 and 2022, narrowing the Latino-white wealth gap to its smallest in nearly three decades.
Meanwhile with blacks Black wealth in the U.S. is projected to hit zero by 2053 due to systemic factors like persistent income inequality, a lack of generational wealth transfer, discrimination in housing and lending, lower homeownership rates, and economic disparities that limit access to wealth-building opportunities. Without significant policy changes or community interventions, these trends could continue to erode Black wealth over time.
You also lied about the Latino vs black wealth comparison. You said it was ‘marginal’
In 2023, the median household income for Hispanic (Latino) households in the United States was $65,540, while for Black households, it was $56,490. This indicates that Latino households earned approximately $9,050 more than Black households, translating to a 16% higher median income.
How is 16% marginal?
Latino GDP is close to $4 trillion where else blacks are like half of that. 50%+ is not marginal.
The financial and economic status of black Americans is nowhere Latinos is another thing I will make you admit out of this conversation. Latino households in the U.S. generally fare better than Black households in terms of debt and bankruptcies due to differences in wealth, access to credit, and financial outcomes: • Median Debt (2021): Black households: $10,000; Latino households: $12,000. • Bankruptcy Rates: Black Americans file more bankruptcies and are more likely to use Chapter 13, which is costlier and less successful (39% success rate in Black-majority areas vs. 58% in White-majority areas). • Key Reasons: • Higher Latino homeownership rates lead to better wealth accumulation. • Black households face more discriminatory lending practices and limited access to credit. • Wealth gaps: Black households have lower median wealth than Latino households, limiting financial resilience
You’ve lost your mind on top of the fact that Latino youth are far richer, more productive, hungrier for success. In 2019, the median wealth for older millennial families (born in the 1980s) showed significant racial disparities: • White families: Approximately $88,000 • Hispanic (Latino) families: Around $22,000 • Black families: About $5,000
Blacks are nowhere the Latins. The Latin demographic has far more prosperity. It’s not even close. Black Americans aren’t that young and are quite. Latino community is full of young and vibrant people whom are hungry for success. As stereotypical as it sounds, much of those Latinos are border hoppers coming from harsher, violent, unstable and undeveloped societies than the US. ‘I mean, i've never even seen a Latino that was delusional enough to compare their plight in the United States to that of the Black Americans, but here comes a Nigerian like myself who comes from a shithole country, and he thinks he can compare... People have always said that Nigerians can be very ignorant, your situation is making me to start to believe that.
The only group in the United States that you could say faced it as bad, maybe even worse than Black Americans did, are the Natives... And look at the state of the Natives in the country; i mean one could boil it down to they're not just that into the financial aspect of life, but it's not that hard to see that the Natives are Economically not doing so well’
Like other demographics, Latinos care far less about historical injustices than black Americans. They just want success hence why they make like 20% of the country’s national GDP. I don’t even care to discuss who had it worse but the point is everyone had a bad time.
"Latino GDPs are like $3 Trillion, whereas Blacks are like half of that", and then you go on to say 50% is not marginal... This is why i continue saying you're stupid.
Half of $3 Trillion is $1.5 Trillion, there are approx. about 65 Million Latin Americans, and 47 Million Black Americans... This is another good example of you using statistical information without the systemic reasoning; i want you to divide that again, this time using the population differences, Latinos will definitely still have a higher per ratio, but i actually think that maths is a problem to you, that's why you always go with absolute numbers all the time.
Sladem05: ‘You gave an article from 2017, an article that was easily debunked by me... Then again, you said "Blacks are not seeing their financial status improving", something that doesn't take one google search away to debunk; are you this dense to understand that what you're saying is factually false?🤦🤦🤦... A projection told you that the U.S latinos will have a projected Economic impact of $114 Trillion by 2050, and you don't see the propaganda in that, don't you think?... And the funny one is you then said Blacks will be zero wealth by 2050, when it's not even hard to debunk that since 2017 that the article came out, the financial status and contribution of Black Americans has not even declined ones, but haa been improving’
You debunked nada and you didn’t even watch the video I sent about how and why the Latino GDP will reach over 110 trillion. You couldn’t distinguish GDP and wealth. You say it’s all propaganda but you’re talking out of your ass. What the guy said in the video is clear that the reason Latinos are projected to achieve said wealth is because 1. Rapid Population Growth: The Latino population in the U.S. has quadrupled since 1980, now exceeding 65 million people. This demographic expansion contributes to increased economic activity and wealth accumulation.  2. Entrepreneurial Activity: Latino-owned businesses have experienced substantial growth, with a 40% increase in ownership, marking the fastest rate in 30 years. This entrepreneurial surge enhances income generation and wealth creation within the community.  3. Rising Homeownership: Homeownership among Latinos has been on the rise, with real estate assets growing by 90% between 2019 and 2023. Owning property significantly contributes to wealth accumulation over time.  4. Educational Attainment: Increases in educational levels among Latinos have led to better employment opportunities and higher incomes, facilitating greater wealth accumulation. 5. Youthful Demographics: With a median age of 30.7 years, the Latino population is younger than other demographic groups, positioning them to enter their prime earning years, which supports long-term wealth growth.  6. Policy Support and Economic Inclusion: Government initiatives have aimed to reduce economic disparities, resulting in a 47% increase in Latino net worth between 2019 and 2022, narrowing the Latino-white wealth gap to its smallest in nearly three decades.
Meanwhile with blacks Black wealth in the U.S. is projected to hit zero by 2053 due to systemic factors like persistent income inequality, a lack of generational wealth transfer, discrimination in housing and lending, lower homeownership rates, and economic disparities that limit access to wealth-building opportunities. Without significant policy changes or community interventions, these trends could continue to erode Black wealth over time.
You also lied about the Latino vs black wealth comparison. You said it was ‘marginal’
In 2023, the median household income for Hispanic (Latino) households in the United States was $65,540, while for Black households, it was $56,490. This indicates that Latino households earned approximately $9,050 more than Black households, translating to a 16% higher median income.
How is 16% marginal?
Latino GDP is close to $4 trillion where else blacks are like half of that. 50%+ is not marginal.
The financial and economic status of black Americans is nowhere Latinos is another thing I will make you admit out of this conversation. Latino households in the U.S. generally fare better than Black households in terms of debt and bankruptcies due to differences in wealth, access to credit, and financial outcomes: • Median Debt (2021): Black households: $10,000; Latino households: $12,000. • Bankruptcy Rates: Black Americans file more bankruptcies and are more likely to use Chapter 13, which is costlier and less successful (39% success rate in Black-majority areas vs. 58% in White-majority areas). • Key Reasons: • Higher Latino homeownership rates lead to better wealth accumulation. • Black households face more discriminatory lending practices and limited access to credit. • Wealth gaps: Black households have lower median wealth than Latino households, limiting financial resilience
You’ve lost your mind on top of the fact that Latino youth are far richer, more productive, hungrier for success. In 2019, the median wealth for older millennial families (born in the 1980s) showed significant racial disparities: • White families: Approximately $88,000 • Hispanic (Latino) families: Around $22,000 • Black families: About $5,000
Blacks are nowhere the Latins. The Latin demographic has far more prosperity. It’s not even close. Black Americans aren’t that young and are quite. Latino community is full of young and vibrant people whom are hungry for success. As stereotypical as it sounds, much of those Latinos are border hoppers coming from harsher, violent, unstable and undeveloped societies than the US. ‘I mean, i've never even seen a Latino that was delusional enough to compare their plight in the United States to that of the Black Americans, but here comes a Nigerian like myself who comes from a shithole country, and he thinks he can compare... People have always said that Nigerians can be very ignorant, your situation is making me to start to believe that.
The only group in the United States that you could say faced it as bad, maybe even worse than Black Americans did, are the Natives... And look at the state of the Natives in the country; i mean one could boil it down to they're not just that into the financial aspect of life, but it's not that hard to see that the Natives are Economically not doing so well’
Like other demographics, Latinos care far less about historical injustices than black Americans. They just want success hence why they make like 20% of the country’s national GDP. I don’t even care to discuss who had it worse but the point is everyone had a bad time.
God, you're dumb... I lied about the Latino and Black household median difference?😂😂😂... Bro, i didn't lie, i literally stated their different household median income, how the f*ck is that lying, or are you too stupid to comprehend?.
This is why i have concluded that you're dumb, i will give you an example... This is your own statement:
"Latino households in the U.S. generally fare better than Black households in terms of debt and bankruptcies due to differences in wealth, access to credit, and financial outcomes: • Median Debt (2021): Black households: $10,000; Latino households: $12,000. • Bankruptcy Rates: Black Americans file more bankruptcies and are more likely to use Chapter 13, which is costlier and less successful (39% success rate in Black-majority areas vs. 58% in White-majority areas). • Key Reasons: • Higher Latino homeownership rates lead to better wealth accumulation. • Black households face more discriminatory lending practices and limited access to credit. • Wealth gaps: Black households have lower median wealth than Latino households, limiting financial resilience".
Read that statement again, you are so stupid that you've been writing about the Systemic discrimination faced by Black Americans, but at the same time, choose to ignore it, this is not the 1st time you've done it either, that's why i said in an earlier comment when i first noticed it that "It seems like you're just copying and pasting articles", because you're contradicting your own comments about the systemic discrimination faced by Black Americans with other things that you've been texting... This is the same systemic issues i've been talking about how Black Americans have had it the toughest of all groups outside of the Natives, but you wholeheartedly continue denying it in so many of your comments, saying "Other groups had it just as tough"... I didn't watch your video because i didn't need to after that 2017 rubbish you sent a few weeks back, which yes, i did debunk you slowpoke; and i didn't say they were propagandas, stop putting words in people's mouth, i specifically said "I don't know the propaganda shows you've been watching, but reduce them for your own sanity".
I then showed you a blatantly double standards in the Reparations history mainly in North America, you also choose to ignore that one... It seems like you're actually dumb.
Sladem05: ‘Lets start with your 1st paragraph, because those are the ones i'm usually most interested in... "Every country has challenges"; yea, Nigeria also has its challenges, it doesn't stop Nigeria from being crap; and i never said India was doomed, i said it was a SHITHOLE, and that's literally facts.
Saying India is Rich is like saying Nigeria is Rich; using absolute GDP instead of Per Capita GDP to quatify a Nation is one of the most delusional things i've ever seen someone do... What shocked me the most with your comment some weeks back is that you really compared a Nation with a per capita GDP of $2600, one of the worst in Asia, to a Nation with a per capita of about $52000. I guess that means we can start comparing Nigeria as being way better than Estonia, or even Portugal since Nigeria has a better absolute GDP😂😂😂.’
Comparing Nigeria to India is crazy. India is a world power. It has far better prospects than Nigeria. Comparing India to Nigeria is like comparing a zoo to a civilisation. Calling African nations zoos is even an insult to zoos themselves. I can’t believe you’re still comparing black and Asians 😂.
And your comparison with Nigeria having a larger GDP than Estonia is terrible. All Nigeria has is population. The people there don’t have a brain. Are we seriously going to compare the educational and intellectual capabilities of blacks to Asians? Nigeria just has a larger GDP that’s dwindling because of population. India is actually a productive country. It’s the 12th largest exporter on earth.
All I’m saying is that India is not a shithole. India has experienced robust economic growth in recent years, often surpassing that of major economies like the United States and China. In 2022, India’s GDP grew by 7.2%, outpacing China’s 3.0% and the United States’ 1.9%. 
Comparative GDP Growth Rates (2022): • India: 7.2% • China: 3.0% • United States: 1.9%
However, in the second quarter of the fiscal year 2024-25, India’s GDP growth slowed to 5.4%, marking a seven-quarter low. 
Recent Quarterly GDP Growth: • India (Q2 FY 2024-25): 5.4%
Future Projections:
Analysts anticipate that India will continue to be a significant contributor to global economic growth. The World Economic Forum noted that in 2023, India contributed 16% to global growth, with a growth rate of 7.2% in fiscal 2022-2023, the second-highest among G20 countries. 
Long-term forecasts suggest that India could become one of the world’s largest economies. PricewaterhouseCoopers projects that by 2050, India could rank second globally in GDP at purchasing power parity (PPP), behind China but ahead of the United States. 
Projected Global GDP Rankings by 2050 (PPP): 1. China 2. India 3. United States
Similarly, Goldman Sachs Research forecasts that by 2075, India will have the world’s second-largest economy, attributing this growth to its expanding population and labor force participation.
‘🤦🤦🤦, i'm just going to say something here, why won't you fucking expect them to have one of the largest working-age population with a population of literally 1.4+ Billion people’ A young and youthful population that’s running out in countries in the west gives them an advantage. Western countries are increasingly dependent upon Asian labor and ingenuity.
‘This your statement makes me laugh especially in the case of India; so let me give an example, the U.S is the 3rd most populated country in the world if i'm not mistaken, by your logic, the U.S should be one of the biggest migrators in the world, with U.S citizens doing anything, even to live as hiding illegals, to make sure that they never go back to the U.S again right?... Bro, stop using flimsy excuses to defend mediocrity’
As of December 2024, the global population stands at approximately 8.2 billion people. The distribution of this population is highly uneven, with certain countries accounting for significant proportions.
Top 15 Countries with the Largest Diaspora Populations: 1. India: 17.9 million 2. Mexico: 11.8 million 3. Russia: 10.5 million 4. China: 10.7 million 5. Syria: 8.2 million 6. Bangladesh: 7.8 million 7. Pakistan: 6.3 million 8. Ukraine: 5.9 million 9. Philippines: 5.4 million 10. Afghanistan: 5.1 million 11. United Kingdom: 4.9 million 12. Germany: 4.5 million 13. Turkey: 4.3 million 14. Egypt: 3.7 million 15. Italy: 3.5 million
All your arguments are centred around feelings and emotions not really empirical evidence. Stop giving me anecdotal garbage. The most populous countries in the world tend to have the largest diasporas but not always.
USA is a very insular country is why US citizens don’t leave. But using your logic, China is a shithole.
‘So i should be amazed by the most populated country in the world having the largest National biometric ID system?, or the largest Digital payments?; i don't understand how i should be ecstatic by that, but i guess to you, i should be right?🤦🤦🤦... Dude, don't make me laugh.
I swear, you're easily blinded by figures and stats., instead of looking at the systemic issues those region faces... And the worst part is you don't even look at the right stats., you just gobble up the stats.; for example, lets say the HIV epidemic in South Africa, i won't be surprised if you said South Africa has the worst case of HIV in the world, and by absolute numbers, you'd be very correct; but do you know you have a higher chance of contanting HIV in Botswana, Zimbabwe, Eswatini, and Lesotho, than in South Africa?. Why?, because they all have a higher prevalence rate’
The difference is I use empirical information to back up my point. You use anecdotal nonsense. The fact that you know people in India that are saying the country is finished doesn’t mean it actually is. India is growing in a way that most other countries aren’t. Sure India is bad but it’s better and doing better than most other countries out there. Particularly now that Trump is back. Much of China’s manufacturing dominance will go to India, Philippines, Vietnam and so on. More of what we consume will be made in india.
India is growing in ways that set it apart from most countries:
Politically: • India is the world’s largest democracy, holding regular elections and managing a diverse population. Its geopolitical strategy balances relationships with major powers while asserting itself as a regional leader.
Technologically: • India is a global IT hub, with cities like Bengaluru driving innovation in tech and software. • A booming startup scene, supported by initiatives like “Startup India,” and programs like “Make in India” are attracting global manufacturing giants like Apple and Samsung.
Socially: • With a young population, India has a massive workforce and growing urban centers reshaping lifestyles and fueling consumer-driven growth.
Culturally: • Bollywood, Indian music, and cuisine dominate globally. Festivals and cultural exports keep India’s rich heritage in the global spotlight.
Economically: • Unlike many countries that rely heavily on manufacturing, India’s economy is led by its service sector, particularly IT and outsourcing. • A growing middle class and domestic consumption further drive its growth.
The Bigger Picture:
India’s combination of youthful energy, cultural richness, political stability, and tech-savviness is unique. It’s growing not just economically but also in influence, culturally and geopolitically, making it a standout among nations today.
You use Empirical information to back up your point?😂😂😂... Bro, comparing a country with a per capita of $2600 and one with a per capita of $56000 is mot empirical information, it's outright delusion... The fact that India has a per capita of $2600 is actual realistic Empirical information... I never use anecdotal nonsense; i compare my Empirical information with the systemic activities of the country.
Fact: India has one the highest population in the world at 1.4+ billion, so a nominal GDP of $3.8+ Trillion is not exceptional, nor is them having the largest National biometric ID system, or an economic growth of 5.2 if i remember you correctly, or others... A 5.2 economic growth is very good from a face value perspective, but given a stacked population like that heavily driving the economy, it's not shocking
The fact is you go by empirical information alone, not introducing systemic reasons that can contribute to that empirical information; and that's delusional... So saying the Indian GDP is set to surpass that of Japan while technically correct, doesn't mean India will be set to be doing better than Japan when their GDP surpasses them, or is even close to be doing better than Japan. There has to be systemic reasoning to any empirical information, or that information becomes delusional.
You've been giving projections on were India is set to be, i've been giving you the systemic reasons why that projections are like that, it doesn't change India from being a Shithole... We face similar projections in Nigeria in relation to Africa all the time, and even in the last decade, was up there in respect to the rest of the world, but only a delusional man will think those projections actually meant great progress; have you seen our population growth?.
In 2050, Nigeria is projected to become the 15th largest economy, surpassing a decent amount of European Nations... I'm going to ask you a question?, will Nigeria actually be economically better than those Nations?; Now, my answer is of course not, i want to hear yours... And that's why just spitting out statistical information without adding the systemic side of the region is outright delusion.
By the way, i never compared India with Nigeria, even in an older comment of mine when you compared India to England, i said you can't make that comparison because India has a shit economy per the population like Nigeria does, but theirs are actually way better than ours, and currently stable... And stop using absolute numbers; a country is its people, any Statistical information has to also go with the systemic reasoning affecting that information.
You called India a Superpower, it's not considered a Superpower, it's considered an "Emerging Superpower", and that consideration has mainly been fueled by its high population... I will ask you this question, from an Economical perspective as an Individual, would you rather live in India or in England?; another question still from the same perspective, would you rather live in Nigeria or in Portugal?.
Sladem05: I can’t be bothered to give a lengthy response because all these chat forums censor the hell out of everything but most of what you’re saying is wrong. You can’t even distinguish GDP and wealth. Blacks will have zero wealth by 2050. Latino GDP because their economic impact in the US is growing. That’s not propaganda. They’re collective because Latinos will reach $110 trillion dollars by 2053 based on current projections. The reason is because Latinos contribute far more to the economy than blacks ever did and ever will. Latino GDP is only smaller than like 4 other nations. US wealth is different to US GDP. Blacks are not seeing their financial status improving. Are you out of your mind? I posted a link that showed that millennial black wealth is nowhere that of other races. Blacks are more likely to default on their debt. Younger blacks are poorer than ever.
Your mistake was comapring blacks to Latinos. You’re out of your mind. Blacks are nowhere on the level of Latinos whether that’s Latin Americans vs Africans or Latinos in the western hemisphere vs blacks. It’s a no brainer. The Latino community is far richer, more prosperous, civilised etc. Latinos have surpassed blacks in everything population, education, economy, health it’s not close.
Here’s a list highlighting the factors driving Latinos’ economic prosperity in the U.S.:
1. High Rate of Entrepreneurship • Business Growth: Latino-owned businesses increased by 57% from 2007 to 2021, compared to just 5% growth for White-owned businesses. • New Entrepreneurs: Nearly 25% of new entrepreneurs in the U.S. in 2021 were Latino, showcasing their role in driving business creation.
2. Strong Labor Force Participation • Workforce Representation: Latinos currently comprise nearly 20% of the U.S. labor force and are projected to make up 30% by 2050. • Essential Industries: They are highly represented in critical sectors like construction, agriculture, hospitality, healthcare, and general labor.
3. Economic Contributions (GDP Growth) • Latino GDP: In 2022, the U.S. Latino GDP reached $3.6 trillion, making it the fifth-largest economy globally, surpassing countries like India and the U.K. • Growth Rate: From 2017 to 2022, Latinos contributed 28.3% of total GDP growth in the U.S., despite making up only 19.5% of the population.
4. Youthful Demographics • Latinos have a median age of 30, much younger than the U.S. average, positioning them as a dynamic and growing workforce. • This youthful demographic ensures sustained labor force growth and consumer demand.
5. Increasing Education and Skills • Latino college enrollment has been rising steadily, which will translate to higher-skilled workers in the future. • Many Latinos are pursuing careers in growing fields like technology and healthcare.
6. Rising Consumer Power • Latinos are a major consumer base, with a collective purchasing power exceeding $3 trillion and growing rapidly. • Their spending is fueling industries like retail, housing, and automotive.
7. Cultural and Economic Resilience • Latinos often demonstrate intergenerational financial support (e.g., pooling resources to buy homes or start businesses), which strengthens household stability and economic mobility. • Their communities emphasize hard work and perseverance, making them a reliable driver of U.S. economic growth.
8. Geographic Impact • High Latino populations in economically dynamic regions (e.g., California, Texas, Florida) amplify their economic influence in areas vital to the national economy.
9. Urban and Suburban Growth • Latinos are driving population growth in both cities and suburbs, supporting housing markets and local economies across the U.S.
10. Political and Economic Recognition • Policymakers and businesses increasingly recognize the importance of Latinos in sustaining economic growth, leading to more targeted investments and opportunities.
Conclusion:
Latinos are uniquely positioned to drive U.S. economic prosperity through their entrepreneurship, labor force participation, consumer power, and youthful demographics. Their contributions are critical to the country’s present and future growth.
Latinos play a pivotal role in the U.S. economy, particularly in sectors like construction and agriculture. Here’s an overview of their contributions:
1. Construction Industry • Workforce Representation: Latinos constitute approximately 30% of the construction workforce, with higher concentrations in specific roles: • 47% of construction laborers • 53% of painters and paperhangers  • Geographical Concentration: Over half of Latino construction workers are in Texas, California, and Florida. In Texas, they make up 61% of the construction labor force. 
2. Agriculture Sector • Demographic Presence: Latinos represent a significant portion of agricultural workers, with many being foreign-born.  • Unauthorized Workforce: Unauthorized immigrants, many of whom are Latino, account for 17% of the agriculture industry’s workforce. 
3. Broader Economic Contributions • Labor Force Growth: From 2003 to 2023, the number of Latinos in the labor force increased by 69%, a growth rate more than ten times that of non-Latino workers.  • Entrepreneurship: As of 2019, there were over 2.5 million Latino entrepreneurs in the U.S., significantly contributing to economic dynamism. 
Conclusion
Latinos are integral to the U.S. economy, especially in construction and agriculture. Their substantial representation in these sectors underscores their importance in sustaining and advancing economic growth.
"I can’t be bothered to give a lengthy response because all these chat forums censor the hell out of everything but most of what you’re saying is wrong. You can’t even distinguish GDP and wealth. Blacks will have zero wealth by 2050. Latino GDP because their economic impact in the US is growing. That’s not propaganda. They’re collective because Latinos will reach $110 trillion dollars by 2053 based on current projections. The reason is because Latinos contribute far more to the economy than blacks ever did and ever will. Latino GDP is only smaller than like 4 other nations. US wealth is different to US GDP. Blacks are not seeing their financial status improving. Are you out of your mind? I posted a link that showed that millennial black wealth is nowhere that of other races. Blacks are more likely to default on their debt. Younger blacks are poorer than ever"
You gave an article from 2017, an article that was easily debunked by me... Then again, you said "Blacks are not seeing their financial status improving", something that doesn't take one google search away to debunk; are you this dense to understand that what you're saying is factually false?🤦🤦🤦... A projection told you that the U.S latinos will have a projected Economic impact of $114 Trillion by 2050, and you don't see the propaganda in that, don't you think?... And the funny one is you then said Blacks will be zero wealth by 2050, when it's not even hard to debunk that since 2017 that the article came out, the financial status and contribution of Black Americans has not even declined ones, but haa been improving.
"Your mistake was comapring blacks to Latinos. You’re out of your mind"... The funny thing is you're are the one that has been comparing them since, i never even compared, all i talked about was their median financial wealth being relatively close, but i guess in your dense mind, that's comparison. You then went on to compare their historical plight, which i never denied that the Latinos haven't had it hard in the U.S, but comparing a group that didn't faced slavery in the U.S post Independence, didn't face the level of Lawful Segregation that Blacks faced in the U.S; so many more i could go into, you comparing both plights is really deluded.
I mean, i've never even seen a Latino that was delusional enough to compare their plight in the United States to that of the Black Americans, but here comes a Nigerian like myself who comes from a shithole country, and he thinks he can compare... People have always said that Nigerians can be very ignorant, your situation is making me to start to believe that.
The only group in the United States that you could say faced it as bad, maybe even worse than Black Americans did, are the Natives... And look at the state of the Natives in the country; i mean one could boil it down to they're not just that into the financial aspect of life, but it's not that hard to see that the Natives are Economically not doing so well.
Sladem05: Every country has challenges, but claiming that India’s future is doomed because of emigration is shortsighted. Large populations naturally lead to large diasporas—it’s a sign of globalization, not a failing nation. By your logic, China, with thousands of migrants at the southern U.S. border, would also be a “failed state.” Yet, China is on track to challenge U.S. dominance globally. Is it a “shithole” too? Clearly, migration doesn’t define a country’s development.
India is far from “finished”—here’s why: 1. Economic Growth: India is already the fifth-largest economy and is projected to surpass Japan and Germany to become the third-largest by 2030. Its GDP growth rate remains among the highest globally. 2. Industrialization: India’s industrial sector contributes 28% to GDP and is expanding rapidly. While China’s manufacturing currently dominates at 40%, India is catching up as it reforms and attracts foreign investment. 3. Demographics: With a median age of 28, India boasts one of the youngest populations globally. By 2030, it will have the largest working-age population—a demographic advantage as East Asia and the West face aging populations. 4. Innovation: India leads in digital transformation, with programs like Aadhaar (world’s largest biometric ID system), UPI (revolutionizing digital payments), and Digital India, improving services and driving rural development.
India isn’t “going nowhere.” It’s industrializing, innovating, and leveraging its demographic strengths. Migration doesn’t diminish its potential—it’s already shaping up to rival future global powers like China and Mexico.
Lets start with your 1st paragraph, because those are the ones i'm usually most interested in... "Every country has challenges"; yea, Nigeria also has its challenges, it doesn't stop Nigeria from being crap; and i never said India was doomed, i said it was a SHITHOLE, and that's literally facts.
Saying India is Rich is like saying Nigeria is Rich; using absolute GDP instead of Per Capita GDP to quatify a Nation is one of the most delusional things i've ever seen someone do... What shocked me the most with your comment some weeks back is that you really compared a Nation with a per capita GDP of $2600, one of the worst in Asia, to a Nation with a per capita of about $52000. I guess that means we can start comparing Nigeria as being way better than Estonia, or even Portugal since Nigeria has a better absolute GDP😂😂😂.
"Large populations naturally lead to large diasporas—it’s a sign of globalization, not a failing nation"... 🤦🤦🤦, This your statement makes me laugh especially in the case of India; so let me give an example, the U.S is the 3rd most populated country in the world if i'm not mistaken, by your logic, the U.S should be one of the biggest migrators in the world, with U.S citizens doing anything, even to live as hiding illegals, to make sure that they never go back to the U.S again right?... Bro, stop using flimsy excuses to defend mediocrity.
"3. Demographics: With a median age of 28, India boasts one of the youngest populations globally. By 2030, it will have the largest working-age population—a demographic advantage as East Asia and the West face aging populations"... 🤦🤦🤦, i'm just going to say something here, why won't you fucking expect them to have one of the largest working-age population with a population of literally 1.4+ Billion people.
"1. Economic Growth: India is already the fifth-largest economy and is projected to surpass Japan and Germany to become the third-largest by 2030. Its GDP growth rate remains among the highest globally."... It's like you still don't understand why this is; it remains one of the highest because it has the largest population in the world, it's a majorly population driven economy, not a majorly developmental and Innovation driven economy, it's that simple... It's the same thing Nigeria faced last decade when we were considered one of the fastest growing Economies, the Economy was majorly stagnantly stable before Buhari, and the high population rate just majorly pushed it with stuffs like more tax and consumerism from a larger population pool... Then came the later half of the Buhari administration, and things started declining to the point that we couldn't even have that askewed delusion on our economy.
"4. Innovation: India leads in digital transformation, with programs like Aadhaar (world’s largest biometric ID system), UPI (revolutionizing digital payments), and Digital India, improving services and driving rural development"... So i should be amazed by the most populated country in the world having the largest National biometric ID system?, or the largest Digital payments?; i don't understand how i should be ecstatic by that, but i guess to you, i should be right?🤦🤦🤦... Dude, don't make me laugh.
I swear, you're easily blinded by figures and stats., instead of looking at the systemic issues those region faces... And the worst part is you don't even look at the right stats., you just gobble up the stats.; for example, lets say the HIV epidemic in South Africa, i won't be surprised if you said South Africa has the worst case of HIV in the world, and by absolute numbers, you'd be very correct; but do you know you have a higher chance of contanting HIV in Botswana, Zimbabwe, Eswatini, and Lesotho, than in South Africa?. Why?, because they all have a higher prevalence rate.
Sladem05: Nigerian-Americans often represent a more determined and resourceful subset of Nigerians due to the difficulties of immigrating to the U.S. However, this logic doesn’t dismiss their achievements. The same “cream of the crop” argument applies to immigrants from other countries who excel in the U.S. The broader Nigerian diaspora includes diverse experiences, but blaming crime rates in certain countries solely on access to “non-elite” Nigerians oversimplifies societal and systemic factors in those nations. Crime and fraud aren’t unique to Nigerians—it’s a global issue often tied to poverty and opportunity. They haven’t allowed the victim mentality to stop them from success.Africans, Carribeans, Latinos and Asians emphasize education, family support, and small business ownership, even in the face of discrimination. These strategies have helped them build wealth and influence despite hardships faced. Why can’t blacks do the same?
1. Other Groups Also Faced Systemic Oppression • Native Americans: Endured genocide, forced removal, and loss of nearly all ancestral lands. Policies like the Indian Removal Act, forced assimilation through boarding schools, and broken treaties systematically destroyed their way of life. Today, many Native communities live in poverty with limited access to resources. • Jewish Americans: The Holocaust eradicated entire families, and survivors who immigrated to the U.S. often faced anti-Semitism. In America, Jewish people were excluded from universities, neighborhoods, and industries, with anti-Semitic violence persisting even today. • Asian Americans: Subjected to the Chinese Exclusion Act (1882), Japanese internment during World War II, and systemic racism that persists through stereotypes and xenophobia. Post-9/11 Islamophobia targeted South Asians, and the COVID-19 pandemic led to a surge in anti-Asian hate crimes.
2. African Americans Are Not Alone in Experiencing Economic Marginalization • Many groups have faced economic hardships due to systemic barriers: • Latinos: Often relegated to low-paying, physically demanding jobs with limited upward mobility. Historically, Mexican Americans lost land and citizenship after the U.S.-Mexico War, and migrant workers continue to face exploitation. • Native Americans: Poverty rates on reservations are among the highest in the country, compounded by underfunded schools and limited job opportunities. • Asian Americans: While often perceived as a “model minority,” Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders experience high poverty rates and barriers to education 3. Cultural Erasure and Discrimination Are Not Unique • Native Americans: Had their languages, traditions, and religions forcibly erased through policies like boarding schools and bans on cultural practices. • Jewish People: Widespread anti-Semitism in Europe and the U.S. sought to exclude them from society. The Holocaust attempted to erase their identity altogether. • Latinos: Faced English-only laws and pressures to assimilate, often losing their native languages and cultural traditions.
4. Other Groups Also Suffered Generational Trauma
Generational trauma isn’t exclusive to African Americans: • Native Americans: Trauma from forced relocations, broken treaties, and systemic poverty has been passed down for generations. • Jewish Americans: The Holocaust and centuries of persecution have left deep psychological scars. • Asian Americans: Japanese internment, wars in Southeast Asia, and anti-Asian hate crimes have created a legacy of trauma in these communitie
Your entire first paragraph is flawed... You used Nigerian-American diaspora as an example for Black American lack of success; i gave you examples of how Nigerians are viewed in some other countriws. And It's so shocking you used the term "Systemic factors" to try and defend Nigerians in these countries were Nigerians are not commonly seen in a good light, but can't use that same perspective for Black Americans... This is what i mean when i told you that are you just the "I'm OK with it as long as it's not my group" type of person.
And it's very hypocritical to mention what Africans, Carribbeans, and Asian diasporas are doing in the U.S, while the country most of them come from are a Mess... It's super hypocritical, because like i told you in one of my other comments, use those principles to elevate the countries they're fleeing from... You can't be fleeing from a mess of a country and think you have the moral high-ground to say shit; Nigeria is an insecure complete crap, India is crap (Yes it is, but i will go to that in a later comment), almost all the countries of Latin America are crap; Jamaican and Haiti, two Carribbeans Nations whose Citizens migrate to the U.S a lot is an Insecure mess... I could go on and on.
Like i said, i don't want to derve too much on this topic anymore, that's why i'm just giving as short of a comment as possible.
Sladem05: $56k is barely enough for a family in the US to survive. Celebrating that Black Americans earn this amount is delusional . Rising Black incomes mean little when debt is increasing. Black millennials are poorer than ever, largely due to student loans and high-interest debt. The $11k income gap between Black and Latino Americans is significant, not marginal, especially when Latino GDP is twice that of Black Americans. In 2023, the U.S. median household income was $80,610. Asian households had the highest median income at $112,800, followed by non-Hispanic White households at $89,050. Hispanic households had a median income of $65,540, while Black households had the lowest at $56,490. Economic Disparities by Race in the U.S.: Key Insights
Black Americans face significant economic challenges, exacerbated by systemic inequalities: 1. Debt vs. Assets: Black families often owe more than they own, leaving them in a precarious financial position. 2. Student Loans: Black borrowers carry the highest student loan debt and struggle to repay due to lower incomes and higher unemployment. 3. High-Interest Debt: Reliance on credit cards and payday loans makes escaping debt more difficult. 4. Lower Incomes: Median income for Black households is $56,490, compared to $65,540 for Hispanics and $112,800 for Asians. 5. Historical Discrimination: Practices like redlining and exclusion from wealth-building opportunities hinder wealth accumulation.
Black millennials are particularly affected, with average wealth at just $5,700, far below $26,100 for White millennials and $14,690 for Hispanic millennials. Income disparities, high debt burdens, and limited access to wealth-building opportunities have left Black millennials poorer than prior generations.
Meanwhile, Latino Americans are emerging as a major economic force: 1. GDP Contributions: In 2022, Latino GDP reached $3.6 trillion—5th largest globally—surpassing India and France. 2. Entrepreneurship: Latino-owned businesses grew 57% between 2007 and 2021, far outpacing other groups. 3. Labor Force: Latinos make up a significant portion of industries like construction and agriculture and will comprise 30% of the U.S. labor force by 2050.
While both groups face systemic challenges, Latinos are driving U.S. economic growth through entrepreneurship, labor force participation, and GDP contributions. Addressing disparities for Black Americans requires systemic reforms to reduce debt burdens and create wealth-building opportunities. How you reach the conclusion that black financial status is improving when their debt is at all time high etc. you’re delusional.
GDP and wealth aren’t the same thing. GDP is jsut output. Blacks lose on both compared to Latinos particularly GDP. The Latin economy in the US is surging ahead of pretty much almost any country on earth. US Latino GDP growth rivals that of even India and China. You realise as to how crazy that is right? Latino GDP is bigger than the UK for crying out loud. Get real man. Whether we compare Latin America vs Africa or Black Americans vs Hispanics. Black societies are nowhere as sophisticated or wealthy. You can’t be this crazy.
I thought this conversation was long dead... But i will just pick certain things that for some reason you stated, but are also too stubborn to see.
2nd Paragraph: It's so funny you've been talking crap about Black Americans since, while literally stating the issues they face... I swear to God, it feels like you're just copying and pasting articles without actually reading them. You literally called out the systemic issues that Black Americans has faced since the Civil Rights Movement, and are somehow still throwing shades are then😂😂😂... I don't want to compare the systemic historical plights that groups faced, but you literally listing out actual issues Black Americans faced like Redlining, how Asians were favoured more than them in their own neighborhoods, and not still figuring out what i've been trying to tell you is telling me you're just set in your ways.
Firstly, i never even said if $56k was enough, but you somehow think $56k+ is not enough, but $66k is🤦🤦🤦.
pryme: Either way, whether it was 500 years ago or 100 years ago, society heals on move on, but not the black man. You should remain a slave, like I said earlier, for you slavery has not ended, so make sure you remain oppressed. Am not the one In a hole, you are the one living in one. Enjoy your mental Victimhood Olympics because you lack the ballz to face adversity like every great men and women before you. Enjoy your life in a hole.
So i'm going to assume you're a White person given the context of your comment, so you saying "Lack the balls to face adversity" really makes me laugh, especially if it's coming from a White individual, no offense... You said "Am not the one In a hole, you are the one living in one", you may be wrong, you may be right, who knows🤷🤷; but as an African myself, you're clearly confusing mental victimhood, and removing mental indoctrination; oh, there is a lot of mental indoctrination that needs to be removed.
So no, it is not Victimhood, that will be blaming the Modern day White man; it is calling it as it is... It is calling out Ghana and Ivory Coast only getting 6% of the world's yearly Cocoa production revenue despite yearly producing 80% of all Cocoas on Earth, and Ghanaian being blindsided or even willing participants to that rubbish... It is calling out Nigeria having the 5th largest Oil reserve in the World, and yet, most of the Oil are under European companies; i could go on and on.
So no Mr or Mrs, or Miss, it's not Victimhood, it's letting people understand when its time to wake up, instead of behaving like an Uncle Tom; and if that means saying history as it is (because it is damn well not taught in African schools), then you bet your ass i'm going to say it, because to push away from the rhetorics of the present also has to do with understanding how history has shaped the present.
A lot of modern day Western White people, amazing people; there are definitely assholes, but then again, all ethnicities or racial constructs have that. But just because it's so on the level of the everyday individual, doesn't mean that's how it works at the top, and as an African, i see it all the time... There is literally a struggle for African resources as we speak between the so called "World Powers", inviting stupid African leaders to summits on how they can indirectly sell their lands; and as an African, that f*cking pisses me off, but the thing is a lot of Africans don't even care or know what's happening, and that's what needs to change; and even if it means saying history as it is to understand how it has shaped the present, i will f*cking say it, even for Black Americans, or as you called them "Kinsmen".
So Young Individual, or Old individual, like i said before, you can crawl into the hole you're in, you should be right next to it already.
pryme: After the Europeans started slavery, slaves were also sent to the Americas in the 1600s, and in English language, that is more than 400 years ago, or you don't know when your American White Supremacists started causing Black Americans trauma? Or did slavery start in the 1900s because for you there is no need to tell you slavery ended in the late 1800s, it never did, that's why Black people in the US are still oppressed. So let's look at when the trauma started, are you saying it never started in the 1600s or you are trolling?
😂😂😂, This is funny, after sounding vague, you finally said a bit of history... Your exact comment was "You don't know what century your poor kinsmen were sold into slavery?", now if you truly understand English, you'd know that you just denoted that the 17th century was the period the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade and slavery in the U.S, from both the selling, kidnapping, and Subjugation occured from start to finish; this is per the context of some of the conversation in this forum... It was way longer than that, but i guess you should know already.
And that's why the first statement of my reply comment was "And i guess that's were the story ended right, in that century", because that's what you were denoting... Be less vague, or actually understand English more, or just crawl back into your hole, you should be next to it right now.
Romance › Re: I Can't Stand Black Americans by Derekmiles: 5:53am On Dec 14, 2024
