erico2k2:

#If you noticed, I seized to quote you so why don't you be sensible for once I and some others had been accused of heavy handed criticism.U keep quoting rubbish on here anyway,I'm sure clever people know what to do.
NB, the manufacturers in the UK made a specific note about what type of vehicles this is used for and its for rear suspensions
this is waht it said :UPRATE THE REAR SUSPENSION OF CARS, ESTATES AND LIGHT VANS FOR TOWING CARAVANS, TRAILERS

Divinne:



Shock absorber cushion buffer is manufactured/ marketed in the US and UK and is widely used around the world for over a decade now. No complaints from users reviews on vehicle insurance or MOT in the US or UK or Nigeria. No negative result from material and products effectiveness test. Product has ISO certification and is approved by Automotive aftermarket industry association, Bridgestone tyres, etc. recommended by Ssangyong and Hyundai motors. Product is still on high demand all over, even from the authorities. My guy, what is your own really? Anyway Thanks for keeping the topic alive and bringing us more business. Happy Sunday.

erico2k2:

Good obs and well spoken words,however since you said they used them in the Uk and US, let me draw your attention to this fact
If you have one of these in your car and you had an accident ie swerve off rod and end up i n a dish or something,your insurance will never PAY OUT.and if you cause lose of property and death in the process you are in deep TROUBLE.
Im sure by now you would see the angle we are all coming from.Thier stand would be you have modified your vehicle in a way not in accordance with any manufacturer's standard,hope you understand.
I also believe you will lose your warranty if anything happens.

Divinne:
Shock Absorber Cushion/Coil Spring Buffer is an amazing new technology, specially designed to support car suspension to enhance driving comfort and safety. It is made from premium polymer material (100% POLYURETHANE not Rubber/SEBS) which retains its dimension and characteristics on treacherous roads. It has great heat resistance, cold resistance and oil resistance, perfect for all regions and climate conditions and can buffer up to 0.88 – 1.55 tons’ pressure. It is installed in the middle of the Coil spring of the shocks to absorb the vibration and impact caused by bumpy and uneven/ bad roads. It allows the driver an enhanced driving experience.

Divinne:
Save you car's suspension components!! All we need is the brand and model of your coil spring suspension vehicle and we will send you the perfect size as long as the coil spring has not been changed before. For more information pls call 07060408555, 08022228548.

Divinne:
Save you car's suspension components!! All we need is the brand and model of your coil spring suspension vehicle and we will send you the perfect size as long as the coil spring has not been changed before. For more information pls call 07060408555, 08022228548.

Divinne:
Save you car's suspension components!! All we need is the brand and model of your coil spring suspension vehicle and we will send you the perfect size as long as the coil spring has not been changed before. For more information pls call 07060408555, 08022228548.

Siena:


Don't act like you're thicker than you already come across.

In the beginning of this thread, I DID mention these assisters are used on the rear of vehicles for TOWING. At the rear, my man. I know all about springassistersuk. You are marketing these products as a permanent solution to reduce suspension travel ALL ROUND. Which is not the purpose they were designed for. They are NOT a solution for worn dampers, or sagging springs.

I have not seen these for years, mainly because there are real heavy duty springs with matched dampers. You can't alter the length of a spring, and expect the damper (which is longer) to work.

Another thing...check on VOSA's website. Vehicles WILL fail an MOT if they are presented for testing with ANY restrictors between the coil springs that were not on the car when it left the factory, simple. Quit acting like a morön.

Divinne:



4WD MODS
SHOCK ABSORBERS EXPLAINED
Their workings aren't well understood and they're not all the same - February 2016
Shock absorbers are probably the least understood components of a 4WD's suspension. These devices are more properly called dampers and their function is to control spring action.

If you want to understand the function of a shock absorber or damper try driving a vehicle with none fitted to it: it’s a terrifying experience. Springs that aren’t damped oscillate up and down and the vehicle can get out of control at very low speeds.


The first sprung vehicles were horse-drawn and were fitted with leaf springs. At the relatively low speeds possible with such vehicles the inherent self-damping action of tightly bound successive leaves was sufficient to control spring action, but the motor vehicle soon showed the need for better damping action. Early shock absorbers were simple friction types: ‘clutch’ plates clamped together.

The first hydraulic shock absorbers were lever types, linking suspension action to a piston in an oil-filled cylinder. As seal technology improved the telescopic shock absorber took over and is still with us today.

Essentially, shock absorbers are oil-filled tubes, with a piston and rod sliding inside. Valves in the piston and also in the base of twin-tube shockers restrict oil flow and that action slows down the natural action of the suspension, otherwise the bouncing action would go on and on.

Shockers usually have more resistance to extension than compression and that makes sense when you think about it. When your 4WD hits a bump, the springs compress, then they extend as it passes over the bump. Making the shockers too stiff in 'bump' action would prevent the springs compressing properly.

However, some ‘bump’ damping is necessary, to prevent the springs from ‘bottoming out’ prematurely.

‘Rebound’ damping slows the natural extension of the spring after bump action, limiting the tendency to ‘hobby-horse’.
However, too much rebound damping stops the spring from extending properly. If the vehicle encounters a series of bumps, excessive rebound damping progressively ‘buttons down’ the suspension and ride quality suffers.

‘Bump’ and ‘rebound’ damping are necessary and dialling in the right amount of each is a science that surprisingly few suspension specialists understand.

It's obvious that shockers need to be matched to the springs. Firstly, the length of travel of the shocker piston must exceed the suspension travel and, secondly, the internal valving must ensure that the shock absorbers aren't fighting what the springs are doing.

It should be obvious from the foregoing that shock absorbers cannot increase the ride height of a vehicle. The only effect that shockers can have on suspension travel is a ‘damping’ or slowing action. Those with powerful bump damping can reduce body sway by resisting initial weight transfer as the vehicle enters a corner.

Siena:
Divinne, I have no idea why you've posted the screenshots above. Clearly you're doing some research, however the issues here are you're NOT responding to the points I raised, or looking in the right places for the answers.

I have nothing against you as a person, I've never met, or spoken to you. You may be as nice as pie, you may be a right tool, who knows?

Back to the topic at hand.

When one sells, or promotes a product or service, they must be prepared to respond to queries from all angles and perspectives. You can NOT see any queries as daft, they are ALL valid. This is why I asked you this:

What is the effect of restricted spring travel on a matched-length telescopic damper?

This is a simple question, and one which the more astute motorist and potential buyer is likely to ask amongst others. How you respond may make the difference in turning a lead into a sale. If you don't know, either do some more research, or ask! You don't get crucified for lack of knowledge regarding a product or service you're promoting. But you'll certainly get slated if you act like a douche, and refuse to accept scientific facts.

Siena:


Don't act like you're thicker than you already come across.

In the beginning of this thread, I DID mention these assisters are used on the rear of vehicles for TOWING. At the rear, my man. I know all about springassistersuk. You are marketing these products as a permanent solution to reduce suspension travel ALL ROUND. Which is not the purpose they were designed for. They are NOT a solution for worn dampers, or sagging springs.

I have not seen these for years, mainly because there are real heavy duty springs with matched dampers. You can't alter the length of a spring, and expect the damper (which is longer) to work.

Another thing...check on VOSA's website. Vehicles WILL fail an MOT if they are presented for testing with ANY restrictors between the coil springs that were not on the car when it left the factory, simple. Quit acting like a morön.

Divinne:



It is a shame that a wanna be UK auto celebrity does not have a clue on coil spring assisters/cushion buffers and the benefits. Shamefully contact your UK based manufacturer of coil spring assisters for education. www.springassisters.com they have been manufacturing and distributing this product all over the UK for over 10 years. Ewu Kabia!!

EgunMogaji:


Nope, he hasn't failed.

You continue to provide comical relief as you defend this hack of an unsafe device.

LeJeun3:



Oga, all ur references are in 2010. Why are you selling it to us in 2016 na??

If this ur product was still relevant and honest, why isn't there any current reference.


P.S. I checked for recent references.

erico2k2:

Oga once again stop spreading this rubber news, restrict it to Nigerians who do not have the benefit of choice No thanks to the likes of you.
I and Siena live in the UK. U can never ever use that crap in the UK or you fail MOT straight away EgunMogaji lives in America and he has said same.so tjat leaves Asia and Africa. The step 4 ward in suspension technology are Air suspensions like you got on the range rover and the now new and more advanced electronic stability system. .These are what the FI cars have.

EgunMogaji:


You should be downright ashamed of yourself for taking advantage of inept Nigerian motorists.

You are selling a POS.

There's no race car that uses this and even if they do so what? Nigerian cars are not race cars.

I'm not a competitor, I don't sell parts, so your thinly veiled attempt to deflect is dead on arrival.

EgunMogaji:


Nigerians, Nairalanders don't bother wasting your time and money

From one of the forums listed above

"Thumbs down TTC Buffers are Junk.
I purchased these TTC urethane cushion buffers from Korea and they fell apart after 8 months and then fell out. They are expensive and TTC did not honor the 3 year warrantee when contacted. The general manager, Jonathan Lee, gave me some lame excuse why TTC will not replace them. TTC has no customer service, no support, and will not honor their own warrantee. I feel ripped off. Save your money. I certainly would NOT buy this product from this company ever again. "
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These are simply junk products.

Divinne:
http://www.kia-forums.com/2011-2013-xm-sorento-forum/79771-newly-installed-cushions-my-springs-helps.html

http://www.hyundai-forums.com/cm-2007-2012-santa-fe/156725-coil-spring-buffer.html