Thomanad:
Dey didn't text me.
Does it mean batch A aren't going to kaduna 2moro?

I just have to drop my suggestion on this. I believe that 'will be communicated in due course' is part of the usual heading of the list. You had already been advised even before the list was released and they would have mentioned it specifically if there is any adjustment in the time table. Please do well to report today if you have no any other info suggesting otherwise.

mimzy007:
Hmm Oga hope all is well. Tried sending the mail but it says the email address is invalid, do you have another?

ok, send it to joseph.agada@unn.edu.ng

Hi Nlanders, wish u all success if possible. Hi Mimzy007, its been a while, lost all contacts including my link with "Aspiring Resilient Lieutenants". Pls help me with ur contact on addjossy@yahoo.com.

pijay:

Defends Minister has nothing to do with the list but the list wont be out by any 1st week or 2nd week. It will be out anytime they want bt the fight against Boko-Haram is there primary aim for now. Expect names by December/January..

So there was no Boko Haram bf they sold d form right?

kudos84:
NNBTS TRAINEES WOULD BE PASSING OUT BY NOV 2015.

November what?

elemhusny:


the Airforce and the Navy only do DSSC for now.
bt in the the navy there is SD Special Duty. this commission is reserved for naval ratings with very good and NEEDED qualifications only. the duration for NN DSSC as at d last batch was 9 months but rumors has it dat it will be reduced to six months. while d Airforce DSSC is 5-6 Months.

I mean the promotion/appointment issues he rightly talked about as regards the Army. I want to know is the case is exactly the same for NN and NAF since they don't have SSC. what is the possibility of a Naval Education personnel attaining the rank of Rear Admiral for instance.

ehissi:
Pasted below is a comment I made in a different thread; I am pasting here to help some folks understand better when I use words like the standard or the general idea; or in the event that you hear words in a military environment like "That's just the general idea" or "That's the Standard" or "My friend, what the standard??"

"I have seen a lot of mis-information so far reviewing this thread - the bulk of it I deem un-intentional while the rest is just plain comedy - the errors/misinformation are largely based on what is called "The Standard" in a Nigerian military environ.

"The Standard" refers to the terms and conditions of services as well as the bulk of what is contained in the armed forces act of 1990.

There is also a social terminology in military environments called "The General Idea"!

The General Idea is just the actual realities that exists in the military that are a deviation from the standard condition of service but are still covered by the armed forces act in some way!!

An example;

According to the conditions of service, DSSC are deemed non-combatant officers (or professional officers) that are suited for administrative purposes and are not meant for actual warfare - this is The Standard !!

The General Idea is that DSSC Officers and Soldiers undergo the same training, in the first cycle of Recruitment called the BMTC -Basic Military Training Course - which runs for 6months, also the Armed forces act allows ample room for the Chief of any military arm to use personnel for any purpose in the event of a security situation.

Therefore, DSSC officers can be deemed prepared to face combat immediately after they are commissioned (since both they and soldiers do the BMTC and soldiers are deemed combat ready).

They are not only sent into combat, but are also drafted into the Infantry division/corps of the Army as well as the airforce (The airforce call their own infantry wing/corps regiment/air crew).

From experience, people who may fall into this category are usually very tall or buffy/muscular looking in appearance and have an appearance that seems to command attention physically!!!! I know many of such cases mathematician, accountants etc who were guilty of looking too gallant for the office and so they were drafted into infantry immediately - even though they came through DSSC.

Now DSSC training is 6/7 months, for those who are drafted into Infantry/regiment from DSSC, because DSSC does not cover in its entirety infantry/regiment related training they are sent for further training courses - 100% of the time overseas to countries like belarus, israel etc- to help them fit into the Infantry division/corps better!!

But for DSSC officers that are sent to combat, but are members of a corps/department outside the infantry, nothing for them; highest they will be briefed by their new CO's (or officers under the authority of their CO's) or much more experienced officers in there respective units on what is expected from them in the course of combat!!

Another Example;
All officers whether they came in through the RC of the NDA or the DSSC or SSC can attain the rank of a 2-Star general or VSO (Major-general, Air -vice Marshal, Rear Admiral for army, airforce and navy) - this is the standard!!

The General Idea is that DSSC are deemed (no matter the amount of training you want to give them or the corps you put them) not in a position to command troops at an "executive" level - this is by reason of the Armed forces law!!

This why no STF/JTF commander or service chiefs within the individual armed forces like The GOC's, FOC's or the AOC for army navy and airforce will be a DSSC officer - no matter how many training or war you make the DSSC officer fight.

Also the VSO, Very Senior Officer's Ranks (which is from Colonel upwards in army, Captain upwards in Navy, Group captain upwards in Airforce) have limited slot (which usually must be filled with equity and federal character in mind; though this is not always the case).

Also these are usually the recommended ranks approved by the Armed forces council and the respected councils of the individual armed forces for officers to hold who must command troops at certain executive levels as well as for certain strategic appointments!!

Because of the current size and capacity of our military, what usually happens is that you may have 400 people due for the rank of Colonel; 110 are RC, regular commission (either through NDA or SSC) while 290 are from DSSC and the appointment requiring executive command of troop throughout the army at the level of colonel are 60; the ones that don't require this are 20; so how do they promote!!

The DSSC will always get the short end of the stick and it gets tighter at higher ranks like brigadier general and Major general!!

Plus the bulk of the offices at the level
of Major General require executive command of troops; the ones that don't, will be filled by officers who enjoy sympathy of their colleagues and coursemates that went through the NDA - who hold executive appointments within the military - so because of this, the usual last bus-stop of DSSC officers is Brigadier General - and that is with Favour with both men and God!! Usually Lieutenant Colonel and Colonel is the where most DSSC officers are retired!!

The Standard says DSSC can achieve Major-General but the General Idea is that the last bus stop is Brigadier General!!!

This is where people make mistakes about the military; looking at recruitment related documents most times display the standard, the general idea can only be seen on ground! Either by living in an military environment and carefully observing things like military orders at Provost/MP's, asking question amongst friends/family who are personnel or even taking up a casual Job at a military installation or being a personnel yourself!!"

Very clear now. Pls what is the situation like in the Navy and Airforce since they don't have SSC.

ehissi:


I almost didn't answer this question but somehow I saw what looked like a reply that wasn't adequate hence I was moved to do do!!

The DSSC and SSC are actually called short service commissions for a reason - because they were meant to be short - you are never meant to be there for long .According to terms of service, the tenure for the DSSC is 10years after which you are meant to leave, the tenure for the SSC is 6years after which you are expected to leave!!

When you intend to stay beyond the tenure of each commission - say for example DSSC - you are expected to apply for conversion to a regular commission which is equivalent to an application for extension of service at that level!! DSSC get converted to Direct Regular Commission while SSC get converted to Regular Commission.

DSSC just get to fill a form and that's it, you are now DRC!! SSC get to go through a couple of drills before they are deemed worthy to cross to the Regular Commission!!

According to the "Standard", DRC can attain any rank in any armed force except the Apex rank or a rank that demand fierce or executive command of combat troops - which in the case of army is Major - General !! But the "General idea" is that Brigadier General is your last bus stop for now based on some factors that exist in the military which I have discussed earlier on this forum!!

According to the "Standard", SSC converted RC can attain attain any rank in the army - notice I said army because only the army can afford to sponsor a Short Service Commission for now - including the Apex rank or any rank that demands executive command of combat troops!! The "General Idea" for SSC converted RC is supposed to be like 5 different threads on Nairaland!

I know many folks will not accept what I am about to say next but..........I will say it anyway!!

The Senior NDA RC always protect upcoming NDA RC and Favour them as well!! Age, Political appointment, Stringent PD -punishment duty- is always against RC!!

At a time, promotion is always warfare for SSC, sometimes they use young SSC officers to perform field duties that are expected for experienced NDA RC's to perform!! they will rather make a young inexperienced NDA RC an OC PASS in a unit than a more experienced DSSC officer and then send the DSSC or SSC to go and face book haram!! Ordinarily promotion to lieutenant - which is 2 ** - from 2nd lieutenant - which is 1* - is supposed to be 18 months! I know cases of officers on their 24th month with no sign of that happening who have not seen home in 2 years, either they are in Sudan or are nominated to go to Congo and submit parade!!

The greatest enemy of the SSC is always age, that's why the army sets the peg at 24 because lower that that may make you an actual worthy competitor to the NDA RC's!!

The fiercest competitors of SSC RC's are NDA RC's and the love lost between these two category of officers is old news!!

Note however that there are also factors that work in Favour of SSC officers which include the unit they in or posted to - larger units, divisions, HQ, always have a tendency for ensuring you get your dues as at when due as opposed to smaller units - also the leaders of your unit as well as the general socio-political atmosphere of the army par time is another factor!!

But there are those who are fortunate to escape "Culprit lists" and don't see any of these ills but they still exist!!

lawyers will always be encourage to take the DSC route because you will enjoy your time there a lot better than the SSC because they always accord seniority to them as professionals under the DSSC!,

SSC doesn't take your degree into account and just load of all you into infantry corps, all share the same rank and same level of seniority!! Even if you join SSC with your PHD, you are still assume the rank of 2nd lieutenant!! Only time when your degree can be to may matter - that window of opportunity is so slim that it's is almost impossible to pass through without God himself handling your file - is if you choose to apply for a change of trade after you get conversion to RC say you want to move from infantry to legal!!

This type of change will almost never be accepted by a typical NDA RC plus it must take into account some new qualification that you have achieved in addition to what you used to join the army via SSC!! SSC usually don't get that breathing space outside training, field combat Ops or foreign peace keeping Ops so it is never heard that such a move was made but such a move is covered by the "Standard"...

Very informative... But DRC officers attain the rank of Major General. They can go beyond Brig Gen.

Well, on the issue of SSC and DSSC, even though it's possible for RC'S who joined through SSC to be COAS and CDS, hw many persons have achieved that? Lt. Gen. Bamaiyi is the only one in d history of NA to attain d rank of Lt Gen and COAS, no one has gone beyond that simply because d direct RC'S won't let u. The competition is too much and they will always dominate because they are in charge. Hw many RC'S hold d so called command positions? Hw many of them have ever commanded a division except one Major General from Lagos who commanded the 1st mechanized infantry division. the NDA RC'S see d military as their birth right and it's a big challenge for our category. Before Gen Ihejirika's time, only abt 5% of SS combatants were converted to RC'S in each course, the rest are retired as major after just 10 years of service. Even those converted hardly become Generals. I was going through their terms of service not quiet long and I saw that. It's not the case now, if u pass ur Lt to Capt exam now, u will be converted bt the thing is that anybody can still bring it up because it's documented in their terms and conditions of service. now, the DSSC ppl enjoy almost automatic conversion. They don't have to compete much with d NDA RC'S because they dominate their corps. For instance, there is no RC in medicine, education, chaplaincy etc so no one compete with them. They have their own appointment for Generals and they can also be PSO's in AHQ and DHQ. looking at d structure, it's much easier to attain d prestigious rank of General through DSSC and that's the peak of military career, u mustn't be Chief to be fulfilled, it's a mere political appointment and u can get any other even after retirement. I don't mind joining through any of them because they all have their pro and Co's.

https://www.today.ng/news/092518448-fg-to-raise-military-retirement-age-to-62/ What do u think abt this?

bchi:
will the short service take place next year?
What's the course requirement and general requirements

Check www.joinnigeriannavy.com
Check under qualifications. They may remove and add courses bt other things are basically thesame

@Marcus, the Army will not recorgnize any certificate u have bt fail to declare or tender at the point of entry. Ur conversion will be based on post entry qualifications. I salute ur courage bt u really need to knw what is at stake. However, that is better than ending up as a civilian.

Black lie from the pit of hell.

Hello my ppl. Any info?

Generaloluseye:
sorry about that. Pls how did it happen?

It was my primary school cert, there is a kind of dent on it which the guy claimed was a mutilation. I begged to withdraw d cert and use only d testimonial since they accept either testimonial or cert bt for where. That guy has his heart behind. That was how I left that fateful day. Someone was even sent to speak to d guy bt he said it had gone beyond him, a call was later put across to d chairman Gen. Osuji who also said it was a board decision and he couldn't reverse it alone.

tenderlaw:

OK. Oyi l'otu le. Owoicho ge yo go.

Haba, oyi abole?

Army short service combatant course 43 in August last year at NDA old site Kawo Kaduna. They are those that passed out yesterday.

My heart is very heavy, today's POP reminds me of d day I was thrown out of NDA last year during d screening. Hmm, Lt. Col. BM Madaki is a name I will lever forget. congrats to all the members of course 43, especially my room mates... Tears...

mimzy007:
Good to hear from you too dmajescticjoe, its been really been awhile. Hope all is good?

All is good my sister, we still keep pushing. Hope to meet u up there soon.

mimzy007:
Those who applied in 2013 & passed out in march trained for 9 months at Onne for the very first time. NN DSSC never trained at Jaji, NA DSSC does that. They used to train along side NA SSC at NDA old sit Kaduna until things changed with this last course.

Mimzy good to see u again. It's been a very long time.

misterzeeno:



Dats where the 9 months madass training will take place..as you're entering the place, ull be welcomed with heavy slaps from those young trainees that their blood is still hot..so prepare your mind,,its all part of the training

Cadets don't train at jaji, they used to train together at NDA old site in Kawo but they've been separated.

misterzeeno:



Lol, jaji is the main place, a lot of these “source” people will be screened out at onne

Lol! Do they train cadets un Jaji?

Eugenius712:
Pls I just got an info that the list for the shortlisted candidates for the next stage after the aptitude test is out. Has anyone checked? Onward together!

Where were u told it's pasted?

Meanwhile some cadets passed out yesterday, I think special commission cadets or so, it looks like dis is decision time.

This is a very tight race, instead of counting days, u shld be praying because d most important thing is ur name being on d list. Only abt 500 will be shortlisted nationwide and about 100 will be enlisted. It's a tight race. I feel bad that I can't find most of my friends we started dis race together anymore. Hmm

ottival:
What's is the required BP for nigerian navy please.i need an ansa asap.thnks

120/80 and bellow. Pulse rate shld be less than 100bpm

oluamid:

For course 22 a maximum of 4 per state were chosen though most states were 3 and sum were 2.


The chosen ones are currently in training. I've friends I made during the interview board among those in training. They have been incommunicado since around june.


Onward together.

We have d right to expect new advert then. Tnx

Hellow ppl! Have Course 22 Navy(DSSC) cadets gone for training? I mean those of last year.

All glory 2 God almighty

Pls does any one have d link to d list online, I can't get d hard copy here. Plsss